Topic: OSCARS 2021- Nominees, Odds and Predictions! (Read 1864 times)

They were impressed with his work in Green Book, it won the best picture and best original screenplay categories for that year, however, the director’s guild in the academy did not want to give the honor of best director to the personality sitting on the director’s chair hehehe.

So why didn't they open this one at Roma? The question remains...
If the film is not American, why nominate for a category that should not win?

I don't say that they do that, exclusively because of Netflix. I have a pity, that in reality the winners, somehow end up being based on interests for the academy instead of the true quality.

And then this situation at Parasite was very strange.
Because even this year, they did not accept a film for the category of best foreign film, just because most of the lines were in English (because of a characteristic of the film's history) instead of being in the language of the country of origin.
But then we had a film winning the Oscar for best film (which should only be for American films) that only spoke Korean (and he wasn't even an American)...

It is this set of episodes at the Oscars that discredit this contest.

Just consider any widespread event with undeterminable outcomes will easily have a market for the risk vs bets possible on it.   Its a free market for companies to put up a book to bet on and take revenue and house cut of the take on such event, why would they choose to miss out on that.   Goes for almost anything, any sport any big known event especially if theres alot of anticipation and debate just so long as either side can win ideally.

For me, Roma was without the doubt much better film than Green Book, and it was the best movie of the year. I think that bigger problem than being Netflix movie was the fact that is non-English speaking movie, and Academy was reluctant to award such movie with Best Picture award, so they waited for the  next year and gave it to Parasite, therefore making the precedent.

You have to remember that Oscar is first and foremost award for American cinema, so its only natural that they want to protect their own film industry, but it is a good thing that they are changing, and with Parasite making that precedent it will be much easier for foreign movies to win he same award.


Yep, just wanted to write that directors are those who decide who will get nomination, and they obviously weren't impressed with Farrely and his work on Green Book. When it comes to award itself then everyone votes for every category.

Nominees are voted by other directors who are members of Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Science. Those members might not have liked Peter Farrelly that year because he is known for his comedies like There’s something about the Mary and The Heartbreak Kid which are vulgar with distasteful jokes.

It is not a matter of nonsense, and an observation of how the results have been over the years, even before Netflix existed. Of course, it will always be based on my opinion.

This year that you mentioned, it was quite interesting, and ends up meeting what I think of what the Oscars have been like in the last few years.

Of course, the best film does not have to be the best director (although it seems strange ... but ok).
But, at least all the films selected in the "best film" category, you must have your directors also selected for that category! In my opinion, a film cannot be good if it does not have a good performance. So, if a film is nominated for the best, it is because the director did a great job (chosen team, filming, editing, photography, etc.), then he should also be nominated.

In 2019 the best film was won by Green Book (good film), so far so good.
But Peter Farrelly was not even nominated for the best director. Could he even lose, but not be nominated? So he makes the best film of the year for the academy, but he was not even considered one of the best directors? Does not make sense...

In fact, giving Alfonso Cuarón the award for best director for the film Roma was clear proof that perhaps Roma should have won the best film.
OK, it won as the best foreign film. But this is one more thing that doesn't make sense. So you put the same film in the category of best film and in the category of best foreign film? How do we look, is it an American film or a foreign film?
We can say that other awards, Roma were also nominated for these two categories. It is true. But where it happened (BAFTA 2019 & Critics' Choice Awards 2019), he won both.

In fact, it is easier to give the award for best director, because he makes films for various studios. Now, give an Oscar, for best film, for a production of digital platforms? It's harder. They still don't have the courage to do so. But one day, they will have to do it!

That's nothing new really, I remember that in the late 90s when I started betting, Oscar was already included along with all other similar stuff like. Regarding where you can bet on Oscar, basically all top gambling sites offer that, so it won't be hard to find it next year, if you decide to bet on it.

I'm not aware that even the Oscar Nominees has odds and can placed bets on, I'm curious what gambling sites handles this kinds of events does all of the sports betting site have this kind of betting event?

So what if its Netflix documentary, does it make any automatically bad?  Netflix spent 15 billion dollars on original content in 2019 and 17 billion dollars in 2020. So yeah, they mean business and every year they keep getting better. For me, paying Netflix subscription is a no brainer as I know that money will be spent on quality stuff.

Regarding your nonsense about "Netflix taking advantage and won in less important category", just a reminder for you that in 2019 Netflix's Roma won 3 Oscars; Alfonso Cuaron for best director, Best Foreign Language Film and best Cinematography. Are those also irrelevant categories too? In Best Documentary category this is their 3rd win for now, so no surprise either. And no, Best Documentary is not an irrelevant category.

So yeah, you should really check your facts before writing nonsense.



Kudos for the the win, bookies really underestimated Frances McDormand!

I've watched The Father and Nomadland, and I liked the former more as well. Anthony Hopkins played very realistically there. I didn't guess that he would get an Oscar for this one, but I think he totally deserved it. Congrats to those who bet on him.
While I didn't like Nomadland that much, McDormand played beautifully in it, and my bet on 4.27 odds on her was the biggest one I've made for this round of Oscars, so I'm glad it was a win 

I was just a little surprised by this victory, as it is a Netflix documentary.
But, they had to really give something to Netflix, and ended up taking advantage of a less important category, for the academy.

I just had a good feeing when I watched, "My Octopus Teacher" on NetFlix and I actually told someone in the room that it is going to win a Oscar for the Best Documentary in this years Oscars. You cannot just not reward someone, when they dedicated so much time and effort (free diving for months) to get footage like that. 

I am a bit surprised by the Best Picture, Nomadland... because I did not like it much. They always have some agenda with most of these movies.. mostly political.    (Economical hardship is coming)   

Cannes and Oscar are two completely different things. First of all, Cannes is a film festival and as any other film festival, it's not so much focused on movies from the one country, whereas Oscar is mainly award for US movies, despite the fact that they have "Best International Feature Film" and other non American movies can be found there.

I would compare Oscars to Cesar awards in France, which gives wards for best French movies, and similar thing have other countries. Thing with the Oscars is that United States cinema is so dominant around the world that it's no wonder that it's influence is huge.

Regarding that in Cannes always the best film wins Palme d'Or, looking at the previous winner I wouldn't agree with that. Majority of them are fine movies, but in the end it's all about personal preference. Another thing. Palme d'Or  winner is chosen by a jury of only 12 people. One interesting piece of trivia, Parasite was only the 3rd movie to win both Best Picture Oscar and Palme d'Or , and the first one since 1955.

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The father is without the doubt an excellent movie, and by far the best depiction of dementia that I saw. But it is also demanding movie, so I can understand why some (and especially younger and less experienced viewers) might not like it.

I personally think that The Father is a masterpiece, and anyone who is capable of empathy would find it very interesting and moving. I consider myself as a young viewer, but still I enjoyed it. Hopkins was incredible, as always. He sure as hell deserves the second Oscar.
I too hoped that this movie would be the winner. The Father and Mank were my favorites. And Nomadland just didn't seem like a very strong movie to me.

Agree.
In Cannes the best films are presented, and they really win the best. At the Oscars, on the other hand, the ones who are the most "friends" of Hollywood usually win.

There's no doubt about the acting ability of Hopkins, whatever movie he was in.
Lucky for those who bet on him. Just wondering, when I watched those movies, if at least they can get their initial production budget.
With this pandemic, I believe most of them were at loss. Though almost everybody is.
Would be hard for the film industry to get back also as many people are avoiding the crowd even if the vaccine is already available.

Hopkins is a good actor, he was terrifying as Hannibal Lecter and I don't know why would they put a strange odds on him knowing that he can deliver what is being asked on the film. It's not blockbuster because there aren't a lot of theaters open so there isn't a lot of places to watch these movies. But to be honest, Cannes is much better than Oscars because that's where you get the really good films.

The Father is a movie that is more suitable to mature audiences and the younger viewers may not find it very interesting. It talks about a topic (progressing memory loss and dementia) which would otherwise be swept under the carpet and ignored in normal circumstances. But the topic is becoming more and more relevant, as the world population is undergoing rapid ageing (at least East Asia, North America and Europe). And I was actually disappointed that it didn't won the award for best picture.

Usually the award for the death person happens not because of emotions alone, or not because of even death itself, but more about if you do not give him an award this year, you will never give him any other award ever again in the future, so it is usually a discussion topic. However you have to realize, people die every day, celebs die every year, not all of them win something, most of them loses in the end, there are 100+ celebs die every year, some famous, some not so much obviously, but that doesn't change the fact that they don't win anything.

Definitely there are few who died that year and got an Oscar as well, but that is much much more rare, like maybe 1k to 1 chance, probably lower between all dead people. Chadwick wasn't considered a potential winner just because he died, not like he played horribly, he was definitely in contention, even as far as say he was either first or second best, AND he died, so people assumed that would be decisive between him and Anthony Hopkins.

I should have bet Hopkins I knew the whole sentimental aspect would put him ahead of the game, I didnt realise the odds were so high and remote.   Obviously a kinda obscure type movie, not blockbuster not anything but I know the acting trade and thats a story thats going to get real appreciation from the voters behind oscars who invariably will have been in the industry their whole lives and not so much 20 somethings unaware of the struggles with aging etc.