Hmm, interesting - I'll go with:
Best Picture: The Trial of The Chicago 7
Best Actress: Andra Day (The United States Vs. Billie Holiday)
Best Actor: Chadwick Boseman (Ma Raineys Black Bottom)
Best Director: either: Emerald Fennell (Promising Young Woman) OR Chloe Zhao (Nomadland)
Best Supporting Actress: Youn Yuh-Jung (Minari)
Best Supporting Actor: Lakeith Stanfield (Judas And The Black Messiah)
The other categories I couldn't say for certain, I may comeback and review another time.
Topic: OSCARS 2021- Nominees, Odds and Predictions! - page 8. (Read 1885 times)
Lots of titles I haven't watched yet. I highly doubt they could create a good one because of the pandemic .
But my focus is on the best animated features. Pandemic = focus on animations.
You can't say that they didn't create a good film if you haven't watched any of it yet, isn't that a little paradoxical to assume that the movies are bad even though you haven't watched any of it. I haven't seen any of it yet so I don't have any predictions but there is still a lot of time before the awards so maybe I can catch up and predict.But my focus is on the best animated features. Pandemic = focus on animations.
Completely agree. And as I wrote before, by not watching the movies you are robbing yourself the insight into other categories. People tend to focus on the best movie overall and the best actors but tend to neglect things like songs, scores, script, or visual effects that are also categories that are not there as a filler but as a true art form that should be examined outside of it just being a part of the film itself.
Lots of titles I haven't watched yet. I highly doubt they could create a good one because of the pandemic .
But my focus is on the best animated features. Pandemic = focus on animations.
You can't say that they didn't create a good film if you haven't watched any of it yet, isn't that a little paradoxical to assume that the movies are bad even though you haven't watched any of it. I haven't seen any of it yet so I don't have any predictions but there is still a lot of time before the awards so maybe I can catch up and predict. But my focus is on the best animated features. Pandemic = focus on animations.
Only 1.08 odds for Chadwick Boseman? This could be a sure bet but I wouldn't play for such low odds.
From the odds I can say Nomadland must be a really good movie. I should watch it as soon as possible. We know odds don't give us winners but we also know Oscars are fixed to hell, just like Grammy's etc. 1.40 against 6, the lowest odd, it seems that other's winning chances are almost impossible.
From the odds I can say Nomadland must be a really good movie. I should watch it as soon as possible. We know odds don't give us winners but we also know Oscars are fixed to hell, just like Grammy's etc. 1.40 against 6, the lowest odd, it seems that other's winning chances are almost impossible.
I'm also shocked that I saw Chadwick Boseman with a low odds, we all know that he is a great actor.
Even if he is not here already, I know that he did his best fight his cancer and still do acting. They said that he is already diagnosed with cancer when he played Black Panther role in Avengers End Game. That means that he is really passionate with acting and he really deserve to win an Oscar but we have nothing to do with his odds.
Compared to Grammy's they said that this year's Grammy was shocking.
Odds are low because uncertainty is very low. 1.08 means 93% chances to occur (1/1.08). That's not overvalued since everyone agrees with that. There is no doubt he will be awarded with a standing ovation. Who do you think could get it instead? Anthony Hopkins? He's old but alive...
Sadly quality seems to not matter for Hollywood anymore.
It is not difficult to know what is happening, Hollywood is being a victim of its own success, they have been earning so much money that they thought they could release whatever they wanted and still make a fortune and now they are realizing this is not the case, and when we add that it seems every movie needs hundreds of millions of dollars to be produced even when the spectator cannot see where all that money went then we have a situation like what we have now, the audience is not as interested as it was on the past on watching the Oscars as they are giving the awards to movies very few watched. With so many difficults to spot quality in movies nowadays I think it's very risky to gamble in Oscar's results. Looks like every movies are flat and have the same characteristics that I can't analyze why the judges' final choice will be this movie or that movie. It's like betting on the roulette or dice, totally random, LOL!
Better let us wait and watch who will gonna be the winners here.
Not spending money on this as you don't know the preferences of the judges how they look at things here.
They have different perspectives when it comes to selection. And us, ordinary spectators will be left confused.
Just enjoy the moment watching them without worrying that you have placed bets on some of them.
I'm also shocked that I saw Chadwick Boseman with a low odds, we all know that he is a great actor.
I think you got it the other way around. Chadwick Boseman has small odds on bookies because he was an great actor.
Small odds mean the greater advantage of winning the Oscar.
Bookmakers want to make money from betting, not give it away.
Yes, in bookies, the lower the odds, it means, that person has higher chance of winning.
And they won't let you win big amounts if he is more than likely the winner on that category.
I'm also shocked that I saw Chadwick Boseman with a low odds, we all know that he is a great actor.
I think you got it the other way around. Chadwick Boseman has small odds on bookies because he was an great actor.
Small odds mean the greater advantage of winning the Oscar.
Bookmakers want to make money from betting, not give it away.
Sadly quality seems to not matter for Hollywood anymore.
It is not difficult to know what is happening, Hollywood is being a victim of its own success, they have been earning so much money that they thought they could release whatever they wanted and still make a fortune and now they are realizing this is not the case, and when we add that it seems every movie needs hundreds of millions of dollars to be produced even when the spectator cannot see where all that money went then we have a situation like what we have now, the audience is not as interested as it was on the past on watching the Oscars as they are giving the awards to movies very few watched. With so many difficults to spot quality in movies nowadays I think it's very risky to gamble in Oscar's results. Looks like every movies are flat and have the same characteristics that I can't analyze why the judges' final choice will be this movie or that movie. It's like betting on the roulette or dice, totally random, LOL!
Only 1.08 odds for Chadwick Boseman? This could be a sure bet but I wouldn't play for such low odds.
From the odds I can say Nomadland must be a really good movie. I should watch it as soon as possible. We know odds don't give us winners but we also know Oscars are fixed to hell, just like Grammy's etc. 1.40 against 6, the lowest odd, it seems that other's winning chances are almost impossible.
From the odds I can say Nomadland must be a really good movie. I should watch it as soon as possible. We know odds don't give us winners but we also know Oscars are fixed to hell, just like Grammy's etc. 1.40 against 6, the lowest odd, it seems that other's winning chances are almost impossible.
I'm also shocked that I saw Chadwick Boseman with a low odds, we all know that he is a great actor.
Even if he is not here already, I know that he did his best fight his cancer and still do acting. They said that he is already diagnosed with cancer when he played Black Panther role in Avengers End Game. That means that he is really passionate with acting and he really deserve to win an Oscar but we have nothing to do with his odds.
Compared to Grammy's they said that this year's Grammy was shocking.
Lots of titles I haven't watched yet. I highly doubt they could create a good one because of the pandemic .
But my focus is on the best animated features. Pandemic = focus on animations.
"Soul" is a unique story and the twist amazed me.
"Onward" also got a good lesson to learn from.
I have never watched the 3 of them yet but yes, I will vote for Soul before Onward.
But my focus is on the best animated features. Pandemic = focus on animations.
"Soul" is a unique story and the twist amazed me.
"Onward" also got a good lesson to learn from.
I have never watched the 3 of them yet but yes, I will vote for Soul before Onward.
Sadly quality seems to not matter for Hollywood anymore.
It is not difficult to know what is happening, Hollywood is being a victim of its own success, they have been earning so much money that they thought they could release whatever they wanted and still make a fortune and now they are realizing this is not the case, and when we add that it seems every movie needs hundreds of millions of dollars to be produced even when the spectator cannot see where all that money went then we have a situation like what we have now, the audience is not as interested as it was on the past on watching the Oscars as they are giving the awards to movies very few watched. Sadly quality seems to not matter for Hollywood anymore.
It is not difficult to know what is happening, Hollywood is being a victim of its own success, they have been earning so much money that they thought they could release whatever they wanted and still make a fortune and now they are realizing this is not the case, and when we add that it seems every movie needs hundreds of millions of dollars to be produced even when the spectator cannot see where all that money went then we have a situation like what we have now, the audience is not as interested as it was on the past on watching the Oscars as they are giving the awards to movies very few watched. You telling me you really watched those movies?
I think Hollywood is in trouble and they are making boring movies with bunch of rinse and repeat remake stories, but I did try to watch two movies from those Oscar nominees.
Started watching Tenet but never finished it, and I watched News of the World with Tom Hanks and it's ok post Civil War story but nothing special and not Oscar material for me.
I can't believe that Borat stuff made it to Oscars and that tells you everything you need to know about Oscars...
Sadly quality seems to not matter for Hollywood anymore. They just follow their trash political agenda and the results are worse movies each new year. Actually politics is probably the reason why Borat was included there. Interesting how many films considered *B movies* by specialists many years ago are much better than nowadays Oscar's movies. And even more interesting how a *B movie* isn't considered poor when it's sympathetic to the Hollywood's interests. I think Hollywood is in trouble and they are making boring movies with bunch of rinse and repeat remake stories, but I did try to watch two movies from those Oscar nominees.
Started watching Tenet but never finished it, and I watched News of the World with Tom Hanks and it's ok post Civil War story but nothing special and not Oscar material for me.
I can't believe that Borat stuff made it to Oscars and that tells you everything you need to know about Oscars...
I agree, this year is already shaping up to be one of the more forgettable oscars in the awards' 93-year history. There will be very few upsets in the Best Picture race and very few even remotely worthy performances in major categories. And in many of the technical categories, the competition is weaker than usual.
I have to say this has been one of the weakest years I have ever seen, in fact in the recent years the idea of making a film for oscars and making a film for audience started to change a lot. Oscar movies are there to give a message, to have a political stance sometimes, to have some societal situation, whereas movies who are made so that more and more people would watch are different.
Do not tell me that these oscar movies are "watched" because even the best one rarely gets watched (recent years of course), look at how much Marvel was watched, you think Marvel was a best picture oscar movie? At the end of the day we are not talking about this growing gap anymore, new movies for oscars come out as hardcore message sending as possible and other movies grow to become more and more huge to get more and more people going so that they could make money.
Do not tell me that these oscar movies are "watched" because even the best one rarely gets watched (recent years of course), look at how much Marvel was watched, you think Marvel was a best picture oscar movie? At the end of the day we are not talking about this growing gap anymore, new movies for oscars come out as hardcore message sending as possible and other movies grow to become more and more huge to get more and more people going so that they could make money.
But nobody said that the movies that are presented at the Oscars are the most-watched movies, or even watched at all. They are movies that have been sent as potential nominations by people who think they have something to offer in one of the categories. There are a ton of movies that give out a message or a stance on something and are watched but not on oscar lists, and it all boils down to the benefit of getting an oscar. I am sure that the Marvel franchise would submit their movies for a category if they thought it would benefit them. Remember, there are multiple categories, not just best movie.
I have to say this has been one of the weakest years I have ever seen, in fact in the recent years the idea of making a film for oscars and making a film for audience started to change a lot. Oscar movies are there to give a message, to have a political stance sometimes, to have some societal situation, whereas movies who are made so that more and more people would watch are different.
Do not tell me that these oscar movies are "watched" because even the best one rarely gets watched (recent years of course), look at how much Marvel was watched, you think Marvel was a best picture oscar movie? At the end of the day we are not talking about this growing gap anymore, new movies for oscars come out as hardcore message sending as possible and other movies grow to become more and more huge to get more and more people going so that they could make money.
Do not tell me that these oscar movies are "watched" because even the best one rarely gets watched (recent years of course), look at how much Marvel was watched, you think Marvel was a best picture oscar movie? At the end of the day we are not talking about this growing gap anymore, new movies for oscars come out as hardcore message sending as possible and other movies grow to become more and more huge to get more and more people going so that they could make money.
Why betting on Chadwik Boseman for the best actor award would be a "bad bet"?
I wouldn't bet on Chadwick Boseman winning the Oscar not because I don't think that he will win it (on the contrary, seems like he is obviously the the favorite) but because odds given are way too low. With odds ranging from 1.05-1.08 you would have to bet a lot to get any decent return, and I think that risk/reward ratio in this case ain't good at all, therefore making it a bad bet.If odds were let's say 1.3-1.4, then I would certainly think about taking that bet, but with 1.08? No chance! I generally avoid such a low odds, no matter what I am betting on. Too many times lost while taking sub 1.1 odds not to learn the lesson.
Sure, it was a slow year, to say the least, but let's give them some slack with the conditions they were working with. I am inclined to believe that a bunch of movies that could have potentially shine have been put on the shelf because of the obstacles caused by the pandemic.
+1It was a tough year for sure. Imagine you are studio who invested 200-300 millions USD and then you can't play them in movies, or even if you can, only with limited release, meaning you will loose shit load of money.
Good example of that is Dune. First release date was supposed to be December 18th 2020 but as we know covid-19 situation back then, it was postponed for October 2021. There was even a plan to release it sooner than that on streaming platforms, but Denis Villeneuve (director) fought hard with studio to change the plan and go only in cinemas as planned, October 1st 2021. Thing is,its planned for Dune to have 2 parts, and in case first part failed financially (which it probably would) 2nd part probably wouldn't happen. So yeah, many things t think about when making a movie in the last year or so.
And it's not all Hollywood here, you still have the international section to check out and the category such as visual effects, score, sound, and song are really not affected by how boring the movie is.
Exactly this, people often have no clue what they are talking about, but signature quota has to be filled. Thank you for this thread but if you're asking people favorites you shouldn't put odds here because people will be influenced by that. And you won't get reliable opinions.
To be honest, I expect people will check the odds anyway, so why not share them immediately? But I would also like to hear who would people like to win an Oscar, and not just who they think will win the Oscar.The biggest favorites are of course Chadwick Boseman, Chloe Zhao and Nomadland.
I haven't seen Ma Rainey's Black Bottom yet so I don't know how good Chadwick Boseman was, but from the movies I saw would like of Riz Ahmed scoops the award. First half an hour into movie I was sure he gets a nomination. I didn't have an opportunity to watch The Father yet, I expect a lot from that one. Regarding Nomadland, I saw it and I agree that it is a good film but definitely not everyone's cup of tea as it is slow paced. I am surprised that The Trial of The Chicago 7 is has the 2nd lowest odds as it nothing special tbh, an average movie. At least for me.Only 1.08 odds for Chadwick Boseman? This could be a sure bet but I wouldn't play for such low odds.
From the odds I can say Nomadland must be a really good movie. I should watch it as soon as possible. We know odds don't give us winners but we also know Oscars are fixed to hell, just like Grammy's etc. 1.40 against 6, the lowest odd, it seems that other's winning chances are almost impossible.
From the odds I can say Nomadland must be a really good movie. I should watch it as soon as possible. We know odds don't give us winners but we also know Oscars are fixed to hell, just like Grammy's etc. 1.40 against 6, the lowest odd, it seems that other's winning chances are almost impossible.
Yeah I agree, 1.08 is simply too low for an Oscar and it is a bad bet. If you don't mind slow paced movies, chances are that you will like Nomadland, but generally I think that this is one of the weaker years when it comes to Best Picture award.
I don't understand, could you explain us what you mean by that please? I've bet on him for the Golden Globes, and it was the bet I was the most sure of among the awards. Would you bet he won't win the Oscar? Is someone really placing bets on this s&it? What is this?Hollywood gambling?
I really hate Hollywood and all those movies that got Oscar nominations are just so boring.
There was at least one interesting movie that caught my attention in the previous years.This will be the most uninteresting Oscar ceremony in the history of the academy for sure.
2020 was an awful year,when it comes to movie making,I guess.
I wouldn't gamble on such predictions.
What is this?Hollywood gambling? I really hate Hollywood and all those movies that got Oscar nominations are just so boring.
There was at least one interesting movie that caught my attention in the previous years.This will be the most uninteresting Oscar ceremony in the history of the academy for sure.
2020 was an awful year,when it comes to movie making,I guess.
I wouldn't gamble on such predictions.
Sure, it was a slow year, to say the least, but let's give them some slack with the conditions they were working with. I am inclined to believe that a bunch of movies that could have potentially shine have been put on the shelf because of the obstacles caused by the pandemic. And it's not all Hollywood here, you still have the international section to check out and the category such as visual effects, score, sound, and song are really not affected by how boring the movie is.
Is someone really placing bets on this s&it? What is this?Hollywood gambling?
I really hate Hollywood and all those movies that got Oscar nominations are just so boring.
There was at least one interesting movie that caught my attention in the previous years.This will be the most uninteresting Oscar ceremony in the history of the academy for sure.
2020 was an awful year,when it comes to movie making,I guess.
I wouldn't gamble on such predictions.
What is this?Hollywood gambling? I really hate Hollywood and all those movies that got Oscar nominations are just so boring.
There was at least one interesting movie that caught my attention in the previous years.This will be the most uninteresting Oscar ceremony in the history of the academy for sure.
2020 was an awful year,when it comes to movie making,I guess.
I wouldn't gamble on such predictions.
You telling me you really watched those movies?
Since I watch approximately 300-400 movies per year and I am on that pace for the last ~20 years, I can't really choose much. But that's just life a of a cinephile, you watch a lot and hope that you will find some gems. And I always do as I am not restricting myself to any country, good movies are being made all over the world.I think Hollywood is in trouble and they are making boring movies with bunch of rinse and repeat remake stories, but I did try to watch two movies from those Oscar nominees.
Started watching Tenet but never finished it, and I watched News of the World with Tom Hanks and it's ok post Civil War story but nothing special and not Oscar material for me.
It is true that Hollywood produces a lot of shallow movies whose only goal is to make a lot of money, but there are still good American movies outside Hollywood factory, like that indie movie Nomadland. Or Minari. But if you focus on blockbusters and other hyped movies, of course chances are that you will get disappointed. Started watching Tenet but never finished it, and I watched News of the World with Tom Hanks and it's ok post Civil War story but nothing special and not Oscar material for me.
Regarding Tenet (mess of a movie) and News of the World (average imho but it is good visually), both are only nominated in technical categories and not for the Best Picture.
I can't believe that Borat stuff made it to Oscars and that tells you everything you need to know about Oscars...
While first one was really funny, Borat sequel is one of the worst movies I saw recently and I barely managed to finish it.This is for sure the weakest year ever. OK maybe not ever but in the last 20 years for sure. Don't even want to watch any of the movies nominated let alone give them an award.
It is true that among nominated I haven't seen truly great movie, but there are some that are good/decent like Nomadland, Minari, Sound of Metal and Mank. But of course it's all about what kind of movies you like to watch. I am personally not a fan of blockbusters & comic based movies so I don't really miss those. Good thing streaming services like Netflix stepped up and did some good work.
Yep, again one of the Netflix produced movies has been nominated, Mank. They did increase movie quality a lot in he last couple of years. Their Roma is one of the best films I've seen in years and it is a shame that it didn't win an Oscar for Best Picture few years ago. Jump to: