Topic: OSCARS 2021- Nominees, Odds and Predictions! - page 6. (Read 1864 times)

While it's true that studios spend a lot of money on lobbying to get Oscar nominations/awards, I somehow doubt that behind Nomadland (eventual) success is a Chinese government. It is actually a pretty good film (if you like slow paced minimalistic dramas) and  Chloe Zhao is not some complete incompetent noob either unable to make legit good film. Few years ago I saw her The Rider (2017) which I liked a lot so I am not surprised that her next film (Nomadland) got so much appraisal.



There are film purists that simply don't think that film should be watched on TV and that will lead to eventual movie degradation as studios won't be interested in producing epic movies that costs 300-400 million USD. I do like Netflix a lot and they brought a lot of good things to us as consumers (their movie Roma is probably my favorite movie made in the last few years) but its yet to be seen whether that really happens eventually.

I do not get why people may think that Netflix would hurt, most of the major names are moving towards netflix, it is basically a guaranteed thing for them of sorts, depending on the production company of course but basically everyone knows what they are going to get and netflix takes all the fall if it is a bad work, hence that is why I think this gives a guaranteed feeling of comfort for both production and directors and actors and everyone behind the scenes as well.

I do not think that it should matter this much. Who cares if it is on a big screen or on your phone, it doesn't matter what the screen size is, it matters only if the work is good or not. This is of course for Oscars, when we are talking about going to cinema it is a personal thing, some people may like it and some people may not who knows but I think it is quite obvious that netflix is not hurting the movie business at all.

I think the problem of identifying people and directors, where they are from etc, has become bigger in the film industry. Why should it matter if the guy is even a criminal or a saint? We're supposed to be judging their film quality, not who they are and where they come from, right?

Of course, judges are not impartial so we will be seeing "karma" votes where ppl will vote for people they believe have not been getting fair attention in the past.

netflix is for t.v series not new movies releases because thats illegal if every new movies are going to get streamed in netflix because the movie business will die but old movies is allowed to stream in netflix .
its the rona that is putting the preasure in the movie industry because movie places in the real world are closed and if not closed the costumers were limited to follow the distancing . oscar awards is not dead because if its dead why will there be oscars 2021 but the nominated movies for this year are all new

I think it is obvious that Netflix put a bit of a pressure in the cinema business, I mean the places that you go to watch movies, that has been a bit of a difficult thing these days, but that's about it, there is nothing that would be hurtful to the movie business itself, they are just producing movies just like any other production company and they are just putting those movies into netflix instead of the cinemas and that's about it.

So, I do not think that netflix hurts the movie world, they are in fact helping it during this pandemic period by publishing everything while cinemas are closed or rarely anyone goes there. Which is why I think in the future the movie business will grow to be bigger and better because I believe that people will be subscribed to many stuff like hbo, netflix, disney plus, amazon and so forth instead of going to movies, and movies will be made with all that guaranteed money.

It's not like Chinese directors (or Chinese movies for that matter) have never won an oscar. Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon (numerous categories for either winning or nominated), Life of Pi (Ang Lee has won also in other categories or was nominated), James Wong Howe for cinematography on numerous films (both won and was nominated), The Last Emperor had an Oscar awarded film score.

I think that my bet will be going between The Trial of the Chicago 7 and Judas and the Black Messiah, I really like this kind of movies that are based on real accounts so I don't really care if I lose a bet but I am going to be rooting for this two films. Considering the current social and political climate, I think that those that cater more on political and social issues are going to win those awards.

The director of Nomadland is a Chinese born woman from Beijing. The skeptical me is thinking that the Chinese communist party can manipulate the results and have the movie win all major nominations as a manifestation of their global power and their arrival. China has been manipulating Hollywood already.

The best picture, the best adapted screenplay and the best actress will be won by Nomadland.

https://www.heritage.org/asia/heritage-explains/how-china-taking-control-hollywood

That has been a problem for movies during recent years, the TV will always have a lot of silly shows but during the last decade they have improved significantly to the point many productions have nothing to envy to what Hollywood does, this means Hollywood is not as special as it was before and many of its tricks can be used not only by TV productions but now even by people producing their own content, and when we add a great deal of the recent releases are just a bunch of remakes and unoriginal movies then it is natural people are discontent with what Hollywood has become.

To be honest, HBO has a long history of top notch productions years (even decades ) before Game of Thrones appeared. Their shows were always on a completely different level compared to those that were made by for example FOX/NBC/CBS. Just look at the HBO series from 90s/00s like Sopranos, Deadwood, Rome,  OZ, Boardwalk Empire, The Wire, Band of Brothers, or Pacific (which is still the most expensive HBO series ever based on price per episode, even more expensive than GoT} that are considered among best series ever.

Difference now is that more streaming services appeared thanks to internet so of course number of quality series increased and HBO finally got competition, which is good for us as consumers. But even with all these good new series, if someone asks me to name my top 10 series ever, one or none made in the last 10 years would get into that list.

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An interesting picks, I still can't decide about few. Problem is that some odds for an obvious favorites are way too low so it doesn't make sense, while those that have decent odds don't look like they have good chances. Our of all "major "categories" the one for Best Supporting Actress seems most uncertain. I see that you bet on Youn Yuh-Jung (Minari) which is imho a good bet as she did a decent job bit I am still trying to get my hands on The Father as I think Olivia Coleman might even scoop that. 10 is a great odd but I don't wanna bet without watching a movie first. I know that its not really important to see the movie in order to bet, but still can't force myself betting like that.

I used to be very excited about the Oscars with my family watching almost everything and then making predictions of the winners in every nomination since I was a kid. However, I really think that over the last few years TV shows progressed and became way deeper than they used to be, whereas movies are becoming increasingly more disappointing. And sure, there are always some good ones, but the Academy seems to have stopped noticing them. For instance, I loved Tenet and was sure that it would get a bunch of nominations (including the one for Best Picture), but it only got two minor ones. And I've watched Nomadland which is not a bad movie, but it's not great either, and I think it's a little sad that it's most likely to get the Best Picture award.
I also don't get why Borat has such high odds on the Best Adapted Screenplay, as it's a very decent movie that IMO deserves this win. It looks dumb and the style is certainly not for everyone, but it's deeper than it looks, unmasking the problems of right-wing populism, COVID skepticism, and treatment of women. I guess I'll place some money on it, just in case
And Frances Mcdormand played nicely in Nomadland, so I think I'll bet on her for the Best Actress award as well. However, she does already have two of these, so maybe she's indeed not very likely to win another one.

To be quite fair, to have a more educated guess for betting purposes a better option than watching the movies would be hanging out on oscar related forums, read the articles and find out what movie and/or topic has the most hype to it because watching it could compromise objectivity if betting is the only thing someone wants to do with the Oscars.

You don't have to do all that to make some bets, just watch the films and if you think that it is good then go bet on it, you are not a critic and you don't have a say as to who is going to win the awards so I don't think that you have to completely immerse yourself in analysis of the story because if you do so then you won't enjoy the movie.

I've placed bets based on my post quoted above:

https://nitrogensports.eu/sportsbook

Best Picture: The Trial of The Chicago 7

Best Actress: Andra Day (The United States Vs. Billie Holiday)

Best Director: either: Emerald Fennell (Promising Young Woman) OR Chloe Zhao (Nomadland)



Best Supporting Actress: Youn Yuh-Jung (Minari)

Best Supporting Actor: Lakeith Stanfield (Judas And The Black Messiah)

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My picks:

Best Actor: Chadwick Boseman (Ma Raineys Black Bottom)

Best Director: either: Emerald Fennell (Promising Young Woman)

are paying even money, so I'm choosing not to place bets, but wish all participants and enjoyable night and good luck to all.

I am dividing streaming services production to time before Game of Thrones and after. That series changed everything and showed streaming services that it is profitable to invest large amount of money and produce qoulity show/movie. Before that you could really see the gap in qoulity, nowadays the situation is much better and you will find even Hollywood A listers staring in some of the shows/movies. Perfect example is Netflix original movie "6 Underground" starring Ryan Reynolds and directed by Michael Bay.

Netflix is banned in your country? That sucks. What you could do to circumvent that is use VPN, preferably Express VPN as I know that they work good with Netflix so you can access content in any country.


I kinda had the same feeling years before when Netflix had really bad movies and they did feel like they were made for TV or something, but situation changed lately and Netflix started getting out some really good ones.


Regarding best supporting actress, no one really impressed me so far. I haven't see Olivia Coleman in father yet, and I do like her a lot. About the best supporting actor, probably best was the one who is main favorite,  Daniel Kaluuya. The I think that is overrated this year is Sacha Baron Cohen. What really annoyed me is that he was ocassionaly mixing British and American accents, which is a weird thing as UK actors generally don't have issues with American accent (while opposite is quite common, it's very hard to American actors to fake British accent. I might be nitpicking, but that;s how i felt :p.

The odds for Chadwick Bozeman are low but still he remains the Academy favourite and might be grabbing the Oscar this time as first Black posthumous acting Anthony is the oldest in the list with being in nominated from late 83's.Riz Ahmed is the first Muslim lead actor nominee ever in Academy awards.This year 93rd Academy awards will be held in person inspite of zoom calls.But I really want Chadwick to win this time as a tribute to him and his contribution and brilliant acting skills to the industry in his career.Its just a personal feeling as other are also very good actors.

Oscar predictions

I am yet to watch all the movies and usually these picks are won by the favorites and rarely you see an underdog winning with these betting lines and even without watching all the favorites should win them this time.

Anyone who watched these movies who has the possibility to win Best Supporting Actress and Best Actress because those were the only things that have two tight lines in terms of acting.

It may seem it doesn't have a lot of good movies because of the sheer amount of movies that get made (distributed/funded) by them so it tends to get lost in all of it. For instance, both War Machine and Operation Finale are solid films (not new films but still), but what I do resent with Netflix's own production is that most of it has the same distinct Netflix look and feel to them. It's like they have to cookie-cutter all of their productions for some reason.

Haven't watched any nominees yet but I think Minari and Sound of Metal seems to be a good film, I don't have the time to watch but maybe I will but I won't be watching before the Oscars. You might want to try Piratebay if you want to not pay for watching or you might want to buy the movie at the Google playstore.