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Quote from: bbc.reporter on April 27, 2021, 10:13:37 PM

I changed my first pick from Frances McDormand and my bet went to Viola Davies. I thought the black lives matter movement would be in the storyline for this year and Viola and Chadwick Boseman would win best actor and actress categories. It appears the voters did not care or there were more white voters than black voters hehehehe.

Too bad that you changed the pick. In the end the awards went for the best performance and not based on skin color. I don't think that it has anything to do with white voters or black voters. There is no proof to argue that the black voters favored Viola Davies over Frances McDormand. The awards and politics should be kept separate. What is the relationship between Black Lives Matter and movies anyway? It was an issue during the 2020 POTUS elections, but as far as Academy awards are concerned only acting should matter.

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Not having seen any of the contenders, I just took a punt with the names as put in the OP - Of the ones I picked, I was only able to guess Best Director ( Chloe Zhao ) even then I was split between two nominees. The other being Emerald Fennell.

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I changed my first pick from Frances McDormand and my bet went to Viola Davies. I thought the black lives matter movement would be in the storyline for this year and Viola and Chadwick Boseman would win best actor and actress categories. It appears the voters did not care or there were more white voters than black voters hehehehe.

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Quote from: decodx on April 27, 2021, 12:01:41 PM

I hope they bring back a host/hostess or a host couple in the future. This hostless concept struck me as dull and unimaginative. I think, previous ceremonies were much better.

What I would like to see is Ricky Gervais being the main host, so like the job that he did many times brilliantly for Golden Globes. That would certainly increase the ratings and would make Oscar ceremony interesting once again but unfortunately chances of that happening in the future are slim to none.

Quote from: dkbit98 on April 27, 2021, 12:17:03 PM

Year 2021 was record low for Oscar awards with only 9.9 million viewers that is 58% lower than last year and I am not surprised about that considering all pandemic crazyness.
I am not surprised to see that 83 year old Anthony Hopkins received Oscar (betting odds 9 suggest that he was underdog to win this year award ) but it looks like he was not so much interested in this as he was resting in Wales and didn't want to travel anywhere.

I am sure that he would have traveled if it wasn't for this covid-19 situation but I guess that he just wanted to play it safe and stay home.

Quote from: dkbit98 on April 27, 2021, 12:17:03 PM

I see that Tenet won award for best visual effects but I would give it one extra reward for best movie to watch when you want to go to sleep

Haha true, it's really tiresome and I remmeber when I watched it that I couldn't wait for it to finish. Didn't fall asleep though, buy my wifer was pissed because she, to quote her "wasted whole damn evening watching this crap". Cheesy

Quote from: dkbit98 on April 27, 2021, 12:17:03 PM

Since you are regular Oscar follower tell me did you bet and won anything?
10 mBTC bet on Hopkins would give you nice 90 mBTC return.

I bet few weeks ago, but back then I didn't include Hopkins. I lost the ticket due Olivia Colman not winning an Oscar, and even though I mentioned that I might bet on Hopkins few days ago, I completely forgot about it.

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Quote from: dkbit98 on April 27, 2021, 12:17:03 PM

Since you are regular Oscar follower tell me did you bet and won anything?
10 mBTC bet on Hopkins would give you nice 90 mBTC return.

I should have done ... I always had the opinion that he was going to win, but I didn't place bets on the Oscars... Undecided

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Quote from: Rikafip on April 27, 2021, 03:30:13 AM

I just watched whole ceremony as I couldn't watch it live, and this was probably the worst one ever. Hopefully the next one will be in normal conditions.

Year 2021 was record low for Oscar awards with only 9.9 million viewers that is 58% lower than last year and I am not surprised about that considering all pandemic crazyness.
I am not surprised to see that 83 year old Anthony Hopkins received Oscar (betting odds 9 suggest that he was underdog to win this year award ) but it looks like he was not so much interested in this as he was resting in Wales and didn't want to travel anywhere.
I see that Tenet won award for best visual effects but I would give it one extra reward for best movie to watch when you want to go to sleep

Since you are regular Oscar follower tell me did you bet and won anything?
10 mBTC bet on Hopkins would give you nice 90 mBTC return.

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Quote from: Rikafip on April 27, 2021, 03:30:13 AM

I just watched whole ceremony as I couldn't watch it live, and this was probably the worst one ever. Hopefully the next one will be in normal conditions.

Yes, same here. Because of the time difference, I couldn't watch the live show, so I watched the rerun.

I hope they bring back a host/hostess or a host couple in the future. This hostless concept struck me as dull and unimaginative. I think, previous ceremonies were much better.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on April 26, 2021, 01:33:11 AM

OK guys.. congratulations for all those who made the bet in favor of Anthony Hopkins. It was a completely unexpected, but 100% deserving win by the great actor. And I don't think that too many people made a bet on Chadwick Boseman, because the odds were really low. Nomadland won the award for the best picture (which was expected, but I thought that Minari was better). Anyway, not much to complain about the awards this time. Grin

Yeah, one of those years where Academy didn't make any completely illogical decisions. We are going to wait for that to happen again for some time I think Cheesy

Quote from: Sithara007 on April 26, 2021, 11:08:18 PM

The jurors did the right thing IMO. The award should be given for the best performance, and not based on emotions. IMO, Anthony Hopkins deserved that award more than anyone else. Chadwick Boseman is a good actor, but his performance was not as good as the one from Hopkins in The Father. Overall, this time the awards were fair. IMO, there is not much of a chance for complaining by anyone. The jurors did an exceptional job in selecting the best nominations for awards.

Exactly this. Chadwick Boseman did a fine job, and he definitely deserved nomination he got, but Anthony Hopkins was simply brilliant in this movie, his best role since The Silence of the Lambs without any doubt. Who knows, maybe Academy voters saw those huge odds for Hopkins given by the bookies so they decided to bet and get some extra money Cheesy

. Just jk lole, I don't think that something like that is easy to organize as Aacdemy has more than 7,000 voters.

I just watched whole ceremony as I couldn't watch it live, and this was probably the worst one ever. Hopefully the next one will be in normal conditions.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on April 27, 2021, 12:41:20 AM

Quote from: Juggy777 on April 26, 2021, 11:16:09 PM

@Visnu.Reang indeed it was a horrible decision to not award the late Chadwick Boseman with the award, and no matter of justification can do justice for their decision. @Saint-loup while I hadn’t wagered on this event, but if I had wagered then I would have wagered the same way you did, because I too felt that they would award him, but sadly they stunned us all.

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https://www.tmz.com/2021/04/26/chadwick-boseman-oscars-snub-reactions-anthony-hopkins/

Horrible decision? I don't think so. Anyone who have watched Anthony Hopkins performance in The Father would agree with the jury's decision. His performance was just mind blowing. Chadwick Boseman was a great actor. And his performance in Ma Rainey’s Black Bottom was terrific as well. But the award can be given only to one performance, and this time it was Hopkins who got the jury's nod.

But I think it was expected that he doesn't win himself! It was a film produced by a streaming platform.
Streaming platforms continue to be the ugly duckling of Hollywood.

They nominate films from streaming platforms, and occasionally give awards from technical categories, so as not to be further accused of being account for these platforms. But sooner or later, they will have to accept the fact that streaming platforms are a reality, and end up receiving awards from the main categories.

On the other hand, personally, I think the prizes should be given in life. People should be valued when they are alive and not only after they die. Either way, he did an excellent job and unfortunately died before he got the chance.

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Quote from: Juggy777 on April 26, 2021, 11:16:09 PM

@Visnu.Reang indeed it was a horrible decision to not award the late Chadwick Boseman with the award, and no matter of justification can do justice for their decision. @Saint-loup while I hadn’t wagered on this event, but if I had wagered then I would have wagered the same way you did, because I too felt that they would award him, but sadly they stunned us all.

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https://www.tmz.com/2021/04/26/chadwick-boseman-oscars-snub-reactions-anthony-hopkins/

Horrible decision? I don't think so. Anyone who have watched Anthony Hopkins performance in The Father would agree with the jury's decision. His performance was just mind blowing. Chadwick Boseman was a great actor. And his performance in Ma Rainey’s Black Bottom was terrific as well. But the award can be given only to one performance, and this time it was Hopkins who got the jury's nod.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on April 26, 2021, 02:13:52 AM

The big surprise was that Chadwick Boseman couldn't win the award for the best actor, for his performance in Ma Rainey’s Black Bottom. He had odds of 1.06-1.08. Looking at the odds, I was all but certain that the prize would go to him. Anthony Hopkins had odds of 8.00, but he managed to win the award for his performance in The Father. Others (Riz Ahmed, Steven Yeun.etc) never had any serious odds.

Similarly, Nomadland had odds of 1.15 for winning the prize for the best picture. The only movie to offer any meaningful competition was The Trial of the Chicago.

Yes it has been a big surprise to not see Chadwick Boseman awarded by a posthumous Oscar, commentators and journalists have been really surprised by that according to their articles. I also bet on him because he won the Golden Globe award of the best actor few weeks ago and because bookmakers (and everyone) seemed to be very confident in his victory.

@Visnu.Reang indeed it was a horrible decision to not award the late Chadwick Boseman with the award, and no matter of justification can do justice for their decision. @Saint-loup while I hadn’t wagered on this event, but if I had wagered then I would have wagered the same way you did, because I too felt that they would award him, but sadly they stunned us all.

Source:

https://www.tmz.com/2021/04/26/chadwick-boseman-oscars-snub-reactions-anthony-hopkins/

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Quote from: Saint-loup on April 26, 2021, 05:28:50 PM

Yes it has been a big surprise to not see Chadwick Boseman awarded by a posthumous Oscar, commentators and journalists have been really surprised by that according to their articles. I also bet on him because he won the Golden Globe award of the best actor few weeks ago and because bookmakers (and everyone) seemed to be very confident in his victory.

The jurors did the right thing IMO. The award should be given for the best performance, and not based on emotions. IMO, Anthony Hopkins deserved that award more than anyone else. Chadwick Boseman is a good actor, but his performance was not as good as the one from Hopkins in The Father. Overall, this time the awards were fair. IMO, there is not much of a chance for complaining by anyone. The jurors did an exceptional job in selecting the best nominations for awards.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on April 26, 2021, 02:13:52 AM

The big surprise was that Chadwick Boseman couldn't win the award for the best actor, for his performance in Ma Rainey’s Black Bottom. He had odds of 1.06-1.08. Looking at the odds, I was all but certain that the prize would go to him. Anthony Hopkins had odds of 8.00, but he managed to win the award for his performance in The Father. Others (Riz Ahmed, Steven Yeun.etc) never had any serious odds.

Similarly, Nomadland had odds of 1.15 for winning the prize for the best picture. The only movie to offer any meaningful competition was The Trial of the Chicago.

It's not like every people has to automatically win the award, I am sure he deserves the award but if there are other actors who have performed much better than Chadwick then I am pretty sure that it is alright that he didn't posthumously awarded.

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Liked that one alot at the time but never would have thought it was a serious contender for an oscar. The Father I thought might sneak a win because it is such a contentious issue (purely my opinion I dont think of it as a winning subject), as a plain movie its so far away from traditional blockbuster. It is a play more then a movie really, but either way its very well done and I dont disagree with the award especially with Hopkins who rarely does a poor effort whatever he is handed.
I dont see Oscars as political but its nothing new they will always have a greater theme to their awards, if that isnt there then people can be upset the film content itself is not judged purely.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on April 26, 2021, 02:13:52 AM

The big surprise was that Chadwick Boseman couldn't win the award for the best actor, for his performance in Ma Rainey’s Black Bottom. He had odds of 1.06-1.08. Looking at the odds, I was all but certain that the prize would go to him. Anthony Hopkins had odds of 8.00, but he managed to win the award for his performance in The Father. Others (Riz Ahmed, Steven Yeun.etc) never had any serious odds.

Similarly, Nomadland had odds of 1.15 for winning the prize for the best picture. The only movie to offer any meaningful competition was The Trial of the Chicago.

Yes it has been a big surprise to not see Chadwick Boseman awarded by a posthumous Oscar, commentators and journalists have been really surprised by that according to their articles. I also bet on him because he won the Golden Globe award of the best actor few weeks ago and because bookmakers (and everyone) seemed to be very confident in his victory.

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The movie The Father by Florian Zeller, who won best script and best actor, is an interesting case. Florian Zeller directed it, but he also wrote the script, from his own original French play Le Père, which in turn has been made into a French movie in 2015, Floride, but without Florian Zeller.

So this isn't a remake of a French movie, but it's an adaptation of a French play. I wonder if it's the first oscar won by such a movie. I know Cyrano de Bergerac (1990) was poised to win big but lost due to a controversy. I see it still won an oscar for best costume so I guess that counts anyway.

Of course this one is an English language movie so it's not exactly the same.

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Quote from: joker_josue on April 26, 2021, 01:54:06 AM

Quote from: bryant.coleman on April 26, 2021, 01:33:11 AM

Nomadland won the award for the best picture (which was expected, but I thought that Minari was better). Anyway, not much to complain about the awards this time. Grin

Yes, those were also my predictions.
The films this year were almost all at the same level, and could not win films from the streaming platforms.

It turned out to be a ceremonial with few surprises.

sure, nomaland is really the best picture, I like this film and both with Frances McDormand which I fan with him either. So, until now, Frances has collected 3 oscar all as best actress. Only two people who had a winning as a lead actor or actress, Daniel Day-Lewis and Frances McDormand. however, who got the winner betting nomaland and McDormand?.

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The big surprise was that Chadwick Boseman couldn't win the award for the best actor, for his performance in Ma Rainey’s Black Bottom. He had odds of 1.06-1.08. Looking at the odds, I was all but certain that the prize would go to him. Anthony Hopkins had odds of 8.00, but he managed to win the award for his performance in The Father. Others (Riz Ahmed, Steven Yeun.etc) never had any serious odds.

Similarly, Nomadland had odds of 1.15 for winning the prize for the best picture. The only movie to offer any meaningful competition was The Trial of the Chicago.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on April 26, 2021, 01:33:11 AM

Nomadland won the award for the best picture (which was expected, but I thought that Minari was better). Anyway, not much to complain about the awards this time. Grin

Yes, those were also my predictions.
The films this year were almost all at the same level, and could not win films from the streaming platforms.

It turned out to be a ceremonial with few surprises.

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OK guys.. congratulations for all those who made the bet in favor of Anthony Hopkins. It was a completely unexpected, but 100% deserving win by the great actor. And I don't think that too many people made a bet on Chadwick Boseman, because the odds were really low. Nomadland won the award for the best picture (which was expected, but I thought that Minari was better). Anyway, not much to complain about the awards this time. Grin

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