Topic: OSCARS 2021- Nominees, Odds and Predictions! - page 5. (Read 1885 times)

I do agree that Mank was a wonderful movie but The Father was a different feeling you know, maybe that's because my grandma had the same thing but I guess that's something personal that anyone could feel connection to even if not it is in their family. The fact is that we all grow up, and we all get old, and even if not at that level, we may not have the clearest memory at certain point and not full capacity working brain after a while as well. In any case he played it perfectly and that was a wonderful movie.

Looking at odds people do not seem to think that it has the biggest chance, in fact it looks like it's at the bottom of the table and quite frankly that was shocking to see, I didn't watched all the movies but it was definitely a great one. Hell Anthony Hopkins would have been the best actor award winner if Chadwick didn't die this year.

Due to COVID cinemas here in France have been closed most of the year (and still are) so I've not seen most of the movies. In fact I've only seen Tenet and I'm pretty sure it will win something.

Also I wouldn't be surprised if the results are pretty "African Americanised". Can't help the real people so let's give them some solace with meaningless prizes.

I had to carefully select my personal favourites and am so convinced of their winnings not minding their odds but carefully going through some history to check if the actually fit for the winnings. Wishing them all best of luck

We are fans of cinema and good movies in my family environment and close friends, although we love more to discuss the results of who wins or who loses than the same money or other intangible things that we bet, it is good to say that the Oscars is that type of events in which you can reconcile a bet without any stigma of the bet itself.

On the other hand, on the issue that corresponds to us of the odds and predictions, I have never made a bet with relevant money that is not in the categories of:
Best Actor, Best Actress and Best Picture in any of these I bet strong, there is always a return, it is very difficult to have surprises if you investigate well, in any case if you fail in one of the bets, the other two compensate.

The other thing that can be done is to add a better director, when his odds are better than the three mentioned and it is clear that there are good possibilities, but for example, for my tastes, the best director is always an uncertain category at least there are always two or three Directors with a lot of chance, which obviously hurts your result.

Top 3:
Best Picture: Mank
Best Actress: Vanessa Kirby
Best Actor: Chadwick Boseman

It is important to highlight the competition that exists between streaming and traditional cinema, that is why they have weight in my selection.

Nomadland just won few days ago the Producers Guild of America Award. So there isn't any suspense anymore : Nomadland will won the Oscar of the best picture and Chloe Zaho the best director award as I said since the beginning of this thread. End of the game.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/24/movies/nomadland-producers-guild-award.html

Inception did have a core story to it and also the amazing effects on top of that, effects are the icing on the cake.   Tenet has no hook to it to make me watch it especially, maybe I should be watching it drunk when it wouldnt count so significantly to my enjoyment.    That doesnt mean it cant win in its category on the techniques used but I think awards tend to have some bias into a story portraying a good overall effect created.

Of course there is more behind the Oscars than just judging by the quality. Studios spend a lot money on lobbying each year and then their is agenda that Hollywood pushes etc. But even if everything is legit there is no guarantee that film we think is the best would win, as this will always be subjective to some degree.



It's true that those who don't like dramas will probably find Minari boring. Same goes for other three dramas nominated in Best Picture category; Sound of Metal, Nomadland and The Father. Then again, I don't understand how someone that likes movies can dislike good drama, but to each his own.


My problem with Nolan is that along the way he stopped caring about characters in his movies, and so did I. And that was my main problem with Tenet, honestly not giving a fuck about anything that goes on. I don't mind style over substance thing (good example is Promising Young Woman which I liked)  but I am not fan of his style (and ideas) either. I really liked his movies before, but sometimes after Inception it went downhill for me.

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I finally managed to watch The Father as it "leaked" few days ago and all I have to say that if Chadwick Boseman was still alive, Anthony Hopkins would win the Oscar easily for his role. That was in my opinion his best performance since Silence of the Lambs.

After watching all nominated movies, I still can't decide which one I liked the best. Tough year to decide, as none really stands out.

Honestly, I don't really like storylines that make my brain think hard like Christoper Nolan's movies. There are many movies that good people say I can't digest very well.  Maybe different perceptions caused it.  However, I admit the storyline of the Tenet film is very difficult to understand if we are not serious about watching it.  Just one watch I don't really understand the plot.  The grooves are quite heavy for me.  Because it is too complex and the characters that play are so strong.  But what's cool is that this film doesn't really rely on CGI and only relies on other shooting and scoring techniques.

Yeah, that's what I wanted to know as Tenet seemed more out of the box regarding sound design than Dunkirk did and that might be too much for the Hollywood mainstream. I might not like everything he does, but I'll give him that he's really open and willing to try new artistic concepts, but maybe his intention to cater to the more upscale movie theaters with Tenet rubbed some people the wrong way.

Nolas is a genius director, he can create a sound by tick clock and use Shepard Tone to make sounds effects Dunkirk movie to be an illusion of intense tension. Because of those sounds, he got 2 the winner as Best Sound and Best Sound Editing. In Tenet, I guess he still uses another Shepard Tone to create that effect. Unfortunately, tenet only gets nominated for visual effects and production design, that sounds effect didn't attract to be nominated.

One question about Tenet. I did not watch it, but I heard that the sound differs from one theater to another and that was done intentionally by Nolan to cater to do more high-end venues. How did you find the sound to be? I always wonder how that type of artistic expression fits with the more boxed Oscars type of view where you expect certain things to be a certain way.

If it weren't for the quarantine, I'd go to the movies. I like watching movies on the big screen. Besides, last year there was only one big movie, and that was Tenet. I myself have a subscription to Netflix and several other streaming platforms. But I don't think the model of distributing movies on streaming platforms is a good idea, because online piracy is still a big thing these days. And it would be detrimental to the studios' earnings.

If you are a lover of the drama genre, maybe Minari is worth watching because the plot is enough to make the audience curious about how it ends and is well packaged by the director. However, for viewers who don't really like the Drama genre I think this will be quite boring, because the storyline is a bit similar to some local films and it's easy to guess how it ends. I honestly don't really like drama genre, and prefer animation like soul. Soul has a light but very meaningful groove.

It depends on what criteria of movie you like. as for me, I will read a synopsis before watching the movie, if the film can not be suitable as I expected I will leave it halfway.

Almost nominated the best picture narrates the character of actor and actress such as activist, deaf, alcoholic, unemployment, feminism and etc.

but, if you prepare to watch without reading a synopsis, I suggest minari.

I guess that this year, the Oscar may also be pale due to Corona virus. I haven't had a chance to check out any of the candidate films yet. What do you think I should watch first?

I believe you are right, but it seems that they have made some changes to the rules last year. I don't know how long these new rules still apply.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/28/movies/oscars-2021-streaming-coronavirus.html

I am not an expert when it comes to the rules of the Oscars but if I remember correctly a movie in order to be considered has to have a theatrical release, if it does not even if it is a good movie it does not qualify, I agree this is unfair since a good movie is a good movie regardless of how it was released, I think these kind of rules exist to try to protect and give advantage to the movies that are released in a cinema, but the world is changing and many people do not bother to watch movies on the cinema anymore and prefer to do so from the comfort of their own home so such rules will probably change during the next years.

Educated guess might work but I don't think that going to the lengths of going to forums seems to me a pretty big stretch for something as banal as a movie awards, you don't have to read articles to find the hype, if you have a social media then I think that it is enough to form your decision on which to bet because people will recommend what they find good.

I was only telling everyone that there is more behind the Oscar awards than judging the winners for their film quality and quality of acting. There now is politics and the manipulation of what the world’s sentiment should be. I reckon if George Floyd was killed and the black lives matter movement begun today, all major awards will be won by a black director, actor, actress and producer for any movie about black oppression.

Let those purists think whatever they want to think, it is not our place to change their minds. I know for a fact that netflix and similar places allowed us to have a decent situation during this pandemic, they still shot movies and listed more from the past as well, they gave us more things to watch. I didn't watch movies this much before pandemic, now I am watching one nearly every single day. That is why I think netflix not only didn't hurt the movie business, but they even managed to get it better as well; that is why I think those purists can think whatever they want to think about, it will not change what I believe about Netflix.

However I am not going to try to change their idea neither, if they are so sure about movies being so great on cinema itself, let them shoot whatever they want, it eventually comes to netflix anyway, and netflix shoots oscar worthy movies as well, we all remember how awesome marriage story was.