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I think there are people like this who will always squandered all that they have before looking for ways to earn more money.
People like this don't understand the term 'save for a rainy day' because to them their enjoyment comes first.
The problem is there is no convincing such people, only life can teach them a lesson that's if they will ever learn.
You can only keep advising him as a friend but the rest is up to him to figure out.
There are still kiddie in some adult hoods, this isa guy @ 40 and he is still jingling around like he hasn't been exposed to the terms of how challenging life could be.
Indeed, there are people who are so relaxed with either the little or the huge one they have gathered and decides to chill, consum it til it depreciates to an obvious level of decrease and conciously, just because they don't want to run a zero % that aspirations alone urges them to go back and hustle once one and relax again and chill to spend up all that accumulated again and before their realization they are up to retirement age and would end up regretting all steps of their lives where "Had I know"  would never depart from their thoughts.
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The fact that people have the choice to choose those actions shows freedom, but there are issues surrounding life that cause disagreements. Just do what you want, evaluating everything around you only reflects a small part of our thinking and perspective on life. I don't complain much about someone's actions being right/wrong, as long as we are aware of our imperfections and choose to be satisfied/grateful for everything around us, even if it causes discomfort uncomfortable.

There were a few situations in the past that I faced when I tried to impose my personal thoughts on someone, and realized that they are not me, each person has their own life and experiences. We can see that the action is silly and help that person realize their mistake, but they haven't experienced it enough to be aware of it, so there's no need to argue harshly and just let things happen naturally.
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Let's not forget that every person on this planet are on their own journey.

You might have one person hoarding wealth like Mr Scrooge and not enjoying life and then you get the exact opposite, with someone spending every cent they have, but travelling the world and collecting happy memories and experiences.

I try to have a balance between the two, by saving enough to secure my future... when I cannot work and when I will need those savings and also spending some money now ..on things I can still do while I am healthy enough to do it.

Find a balance and enjoy your life.  Wink
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A friend of mine goes wild at me whenever I talk to him about his reckless spendings, he ask me what would be  accounted of his money if not enjoyments?
This is a kind of guy that feels relaxed when he has an attractive amount of money in his bank account and then feels he is only supposed to go after making more money only when he is running out from the one already accumulated and spent.
The money we strive for when made it's actually meant to be enjoyed but even as that it should be spent prudently and in a manner frugal enough to show we have value for our money and not to be spent extravagantly on luxuries. It is in the attitude of people that lacks the value for money to spend it anyhow immediately it enters their purse only to come to a realization when it's getting to the bottom.

Op, if am to advise you I'll say you just ignore him right away, at least you have played the role of a good friend by scolding him about his money spending attitude and since his reaction is usually attacking to you about your advise then you should mind your business and go your way mind your own business. It is his money you can't decide for him how to spend it but can only advise so no need of getting angry he didn't accept your advise.

 However, if he squanders while you build with yours and tomorrow comes that he comes to your for financial help I'll say ignore his plea for help so he can deeply feel the consequences of his actions, that next time you or anyone else renders him a free financial advise he won't hesitate to hold it to mind and make the best use of it for the future.
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That's life, sometimes someone needs to be taught a lesson to know that what they are doing is wrong and the person who doesn't accept our advice from the start doesn't need us to help anymore, because it has been their life choice from the start not to accept help from us.
This can also be a lesson for us in the future about how wisely we can manage our income and how we spend it. If we don't need a new bag, it's best not to buy it, or if we can still ride a motorbike, it's best to just use it, no need to buy a car. Because nowadays it is increasingly difficult and unpredictable, and we have to be able to manage our finances so that we don't get stuck in the mud due to our wasteful behavior.
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I like the emphasis on individual responsibility, moving away from the victim mentality that we are so often sold today. Leaving aside the specific case, in life we will do much better if we believe that life is largely in our hands, that it will be mostly the result of our decisions, than if we believe that we are a victim of circumstances before which we can do nothing. For me in particular, since I've been moving away from the victim mentality and adopting the responsibility mentality, I've been doing much better.
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"Had I know"
Do you know that even some people knew the outcome of their actions, it will not still discourage or stop them from doing what they have planned to do. The outcomes me of decision making does.not scare some decision makers so they can be very reckless with decision making at times. There is no decision that doesn't have an outcome, and as a decision maker, always consider the outcome of your decisions before you make up your mind about them.
That phrase "Had I know" is like the phrase I know,which means "the regret is in the end," meaning no one can ever know the outcome of their decision or action, so they will realise and regret it after the result, and that is normal. What I mean is that people tend to consider less what's the possible outcome of their decision or action; it can't be helped. We are just humans who make mistakes all the time. The important thing is, how will you cope with that mistake? Will you let that affect you? The important part is how you will do next after that realisation. As they said, we can't do anything about what happens; focus on what is present and not let yourself get stuck with what happens, which hinders you from moving forward. Everything happens for a reason as they said so expect a greater return of you will do your part.
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The biggest enemy is the ego within us, and this cannot be eliminated within us, but we can control it well. Where sometimes we do things beyond our capabilities and limits, just to satisfy momentary desires and just to show that we look capable. We go on holiday just to breathe fresh air and relieve fatigue and stress, as well as to brag to others that we are on holiday and shopping in a special place, but when we get home we are stressed again because we have run out of money, and what's worse is that we have to take out a loan to be able to continue living. This is what often happens to some people who are unable to manage their finances well.

Therefore, keep trying to find out how we can manage our finances well, because today we have to live and tomorrow we have to live, today we have needs and so will tomorrow, all of which we have to fulfill. Try to control your ego and desires well, don't want to appear capable of being accepted by the public. Because when we are able to manage our finances well, and reach the peak of having financial freedom. So without the need for us to show and brag about what we have to other people, people will know that we not only look capable, but are really capable.
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You could never control how other people spending their money, because that's their money, but I agree that your friend is bad person, the best thing is just stay way from that kind of friends.

Bad person (taking bad as being evil/wicked)?  Being extravagant does not mean being a bad person...  The guy might be remorseful because he does not give value to his money but that does not make a person bad.  So having no money and asking people for help makes the person bad now?


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Maybe he keep doing those reckless spending because he think he got you and his other friends as safety net, by being away and refuse to loan him some money you could help him realize that what he had done is reckless and could give him inconvenience.

I do not think that he does that reckless spending because he has someone to support him, some people never think of their future and live by the moment.  Probably that is the kind of person @OP's is talking about.

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Some people make a good decision in some aspect and then make completely reckless decision in spending their money, probably because they come from poor parent that doesn't even have money to manage, thus they never learnt how to manage money. Then when they finally can get their own money they don't know how to use it wisely. But some of them would learn eventually.

And that does not make a person bad (evil)...

He live an extravagant live but he bothers his friend by borrowing his friend's money, he doesn't consider that his friend also need the money. If he want to live an extravagant live, then he should earn enough money so he doesn't give bad financial influence to his friend by asking to borrow money, I didn't mean he is like evil, he just a bad friend, that is just bad enough for me to stay way from that kind of friend. At least by staying away from him I wouldn't need to loan him some money, and by not loaning him some money he might be able to reconsider his spending because he can't no longer borrow money from me, he might find someone else, but then that's other people problem and decision.
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I don't find his ignorance to be an excuse and I am thinking of disassociating from him before he gets me  affected with his negative possesed energies.

A very good friend indeed..., isn't now the time to show your concern?  Why avoid your friend now?


You could never control how other people spending their money, because that's their money, but I agree that your friend is bad person, the best thing is just stay way from that kind of friends.

Bad person (taking bad as being evil/wicked)?  Being extravagant does not mean being a bad person...  The guy might be remorseful because he does not give value to his money but that does not make a person bad.  So having no money and asking people for help makes the person bad now?


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Maybe he keep doing those reckless spending because he think he got you and his other friends as safety net, by being away and refuse to loan him some money you could help him realize that what he had done is reckless and could give him inconvenience.

I do not think that he does that reckless spending because he has someone to support him, some people never think of their future and live by the moment.  Probably that is the kind of person @OP's is talking about.

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Some people make a good decision in some aspect and then make completely reckless decision in spending their money, probably because they come from poor parent that doesn't even have money to manage, thus they never learnt how to manage money. Then when they finally can get their own money they don't know how to use it wisely. But some of them would learn eventually.

And that does not make a person bad (evil)...
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I don't know man, the reason for why I don't have this kind of attitude towards money is from the fact that I'm not earning enough from all of my income streams, even though I do my best at getting them all, I only have a limited time and energy in a day so there's not a lot that I can do about it even if I've got the skills, it's still problematic for me.

Regards to your friend issue, let him be, a person that's not asking to be saved won't ask to be saved, you feel me? They will ask for your opinion about how they spend their money when they feel like it, mind your own business and you can't really force everyone to think like you anyway, even if they're your friends. Just think of this as a delayed gratification when the time comes that their actions haunt them, that "I told you so" from you and "I should've listened to you" from him would be really satisfying, that is if you're still friends in the future.
You're right you don't have to live a flamboyant life that you can only afford in the moment knowing quite well that you don't have enough to continue your grooves. That's ridiculous to even have such good times as a memory at when you can't afford them again.
And so also, everyone can not think the same even though you walks together. In life sometimes we are just temporarily merged in the positions are could be because we're not fit in or matched together. Only little humours that's keeping us and a little itch could cut every connections off.
I think the Op has tried as much as he could Pointing the lapses of his friend right before him while he was ignorant to his doings. But Op I don't think your pulling back from him would be the best of it, verbally or otherwise you can still assist him or he's willing to be a change man but it he can't then take your leave and don't walk all long with people that can't align with you when you're trying to make some senses otherwise you'd be infected with the negative energies just you said earlier and moreso, @pinggoki has also said that "had I know" would be ringing like the sound track to him at when there's no way out for his rescue anymore.
Don't stress yourself out at Op
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"Had I know"
Do you know that even some people knew the outcome of their actions, it will not still discourage or stop them from doing what they have planned to do. The outcomes me of decision making does.not scare some decision makers so they can be very reckless with decision making at times. There is no decision that doesn't have an outcome, and as a decision maker, always consider the outcome of your decisions before you make up your mind about them.
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A friend of mine goes wild at me whenever I talk to him about his reckless spendings, he ask me what would be  accounted of his money if not enjoyments?

And after squandering all that he has saved he goes about requesting to borrow money.


You could never control how other people spending their money, because that's their money, but I agree that your friend is bad person, the best thing is just stay way from that kind of friends. Maybe he keep doing those reckless spending because he think he got you and his other friends as safety net, by being away and refuse to loan him some money you could help him realize that what he had done is reckless and could give him inconvenience.

Some people make a good decision in some aspect and then make completely reckless decision in spending their money, probably because they come from poor parent that doesn't even have money to manage, thus they never learnt how to manage money. Then when they finally can get their own money they don't know how to use it wisely. But some of them would learn eventually.

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Our decision sometimes is wrong and sometimes right. Having poor financial management will simply lead to emptying our wallets and even committing debts. We are lucky if we don't have that kind of attitude toward our money but never we have to ask other people to live like us knowing that it is their life as well. Let us just think that if they are in this situation today, they soon realize about their mistakes in handling their money and change. Some people are just enjoying life even if they have a small income and we can't take and stop that. It is a matter of choice, the good thing for us who have good knowledge in managing our income/expenses, we never struggle hard during crisis.
In everyday living then every decisions that we do make could neither give out that positive or negative impact. No one really knows until it would happen.
It is really just that in every decisions that we do take then we do always choose up on whats best for us, if it turns out to be negative then well just simply move on to the next.
There are particular moments or situations on which you would be needing to take up such decision if you do really want to have those changes or whatsoever.
You wont really be able to know the result or outcomes if you wont really be making out such decision.

Whatever the outcome it would be then it would really be reflecting out on what are the decisions that you had made. This is why in every decision
then it should really be something that needs up to be carefully be mind off.
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Our decision sometimes is wrong and sometimes right. Having poor financial management will simply lead to emptying our wallets and even committing debts. We are lucky if we don't have that kind of attitude toward our money but never we have to ask other people to live like us knowing that it is their life as well. Let us just think that if they are in this situation today, they soon realize about their mistakes in handling their money and change. Some people are just enjoying life even if they have a small income and we can't take and stop that. It is a matter of choice, the good thing for us who have good knowledge in managing our income/expenses, we never struggle hard during crisis.
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While others have learnt their lessions of not utilizing their incomes when they had a stable source for their income flows, some others are paying adamants and ignorant to learn from what has happened to others because they feels they are not of the same calling to be affected with what happened to others.

I agree on some points, sometimes we thought that our income are going to be steady and going to be stable. But this is not how it works, most of the time there will be unexpected events in your life. And when you thought that you will have that kind of job your dream one with big pays and other benefits, suddenly the company closes or at least the client didn't renew their contract. This happen to me not just once but twice. So I just learn how to save as much as I can, to have at least some money in the bank for 6 months as a buffer in cases of emergencies and if this thing happen specially if you have family to feed and give them shelter 24x7. Life is unfair if you think about it. There are people who are well off in life, buy you yourself will have to struggling, but that's it, you should give up and move on.
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What I personally believe is that we should find the balance between enjoyment and practicality. Sometimes, I think it’s good to indulge yourself and let you enjoy your hard-earned money.

Of course it shouldn’t be to the point of irresponsibility and at the expense of others. You still need to have some sort of control when it comes to your finance. You don’t want to prioritize money over anything so it’s ok to let go sometimes.
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That's how money is, whatever income we currently earn, if we don't manage it well then the results of our hard work to get it have no meaning at all, except to satisfy a momentary desire, such as going on holiday. , shopping, or other waste.

And that doesn't mean I forbid you from going on holiday or shopping, because we also need to please ourselves, just to relieve stress and boredom. This can be done, but with a note, that we will go on holiday to the place we dream of or shop to buy the things we want, this is done after meeting certain needs, saving and investing. Only then can we be called wise in managing income and expenses. Don't let your needs not be met, we force ourselves to go on holiday or shop, because that will only cause quite complicated financial problems (a problem that we created ourselves).

As long as you are responsible with your actions, you don't need to worry. Definitely, having some relaxation is I also believe a must. Just to breath a lil bit of fresh air can possibly give us better perspectives in life. And who knows, once you got back from your holiday, you will be more productive than ever. Sometimes we need to pause our stressful lives to get new insights on what we are heading to.
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That's how money is, whatever income we currently earn, if we don't manage it well then the results of our hard work to get it have no meaning at all, except to satisfy a momentary desire, such as going on holiday. , shopping, or other waste.

And that doesn't mean I forbid you from going on holiday or shopping, because we also need to please ourselves, just to relieve stress and boredom. This can be done, but with a note, that we will go on holiday to the place we dream of or shop to buy the things we want, this is done after meeting certain needs, saving and investing. Only then can we be called wise in managing income and expenses. Don't let your needs not be met, we force ourselves to go on holiday or shop, because that will only cause quite complicated financial problems (a problem that we created ourselves).
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I think there are people like this who will always squandered all that they have before looking for ways to earn more money.
People like this don't understand the term 'save for a rainy day' because to them their enjoyment comes first.
The problem is there is no convincing such people, only life can teach them a lesson that's if they will ever learn.
You can only keep advising him as a friend but the rest is up to him to figure out.

Some people have the mentality that they will always have money, so they don't care about saving for the future. They fail to understand that a time will come when they might not have the strength or opportunity to earn money. Each time I see elderly people engage in manual jobs, I am reminded that a time will come when I need to rest instead of engaging in a full-time job. And the means of retiring at the right time is to save and invest for the future.

You can only advise a grown-up man and cannot force him to make a decision. Life is a choice and an adult has the right to choose what he wants. Your friend should bear the repercussions of his action alone but you can help him if you also join him in lavishing his money. I don't lend money to such people because they might not be able to pay back since they don't have an adequate financial plan that guides their spending.
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