Topic: Pay discrimination - page 5. (Read 1435 times)

OP,  many companies behave this way, they dont value their skilled workers mainly  because they dont have certificate, but with my findings, skilled workers suffer more than the so called office hanlers, however, I won't generalize it, some companies knows the worth of skilled workers, these companies pay them adequately for work done, the production company is made up of skilled and unskilled worker but with the knowledge I have got so far the success achieved by such company is as a result of the great input by the skilled workers which needed to be rewarded for sucg, you mentioned automation, without someone giving the automation command, it won't function properly, so in all aspect skilled workers are needed and should be respected, treated well for this great continuous performance.

When it comes to treating every single worker with respect I agree, any job no matter how small it may seem to the eyes of others is something we need to run our society, if not then no one will pay you for it, so it is wrong to treat those people with disrespect just because your job may pay you more, however it is going to be very difficult for people to treat everyone equally when it comes to their jobs, as we know that a doctor took a massive amount of effort and skill to get their job, while they also save lives, so it is natural they are more respected than most professions and in some cases they are even treated with reverence.

If they don't have what you want, don't listen to what they have to say. There's no greater waste of time than to justify your actions to people who have a life that you don't want. The more value you bring to yourself the more money you will make in the long run. There are people with same skills and some of them are better. If you want to be the best you will have to find what is missing in them and make it even better. That's how you get paid more.
But with the current world's situation, it is really hard to find an opportunity and use it to your advantage. The competition is just too high. Well you are thinking of something someone out there is already working on it to make it happen. If you don't create a gap between pay rate, value of the work becomes less. For this reason many will not be willing to work anymore there and try to find something better. But the gap shouldn't be so huge that it does not value the workers who are working hard to make it happen. There should be a healthy balance between them.

I think the white collar workers are recruited for blue collar workers.Look at any company or factory where the technical people do whatever work they do, there is an account and admin section, and white collar workers sit there, but their job is not to run the factory or company, they sit for the employees who run the factory. How does a white-collar employee work more mentally?  blue-collar workers who perform their duties in the hot sun and cold deserve more pay than them.

 Every person is working according to his ability.If everyone starts doing white collar jobs, then who will do our daily routine work. As many technical people as we need around us, they certainly deserve respect. I strongly believe that there may be differences in positions, benefits and salaries, but respect is equal for all. No one has the right to look down on anyone.

The discrimination had been there for a long time even before now and I don't think this would ever stop but we still hope for the better.
People are treated based on there pocket, the value in the society, and level of education. This many of these factors had been in place before now, it will still continue and for that reason we don't have options than to adhere and they as much as possible to I crease our level of education and our value in the society.

I think everyone should be treated equally weather it's white collar jobs and blue collar or skilled labor. It doesn't matter. But the sad truth is it doesn't happen. People are treated differently based on their colors and race or jobs. No job is ever small. Those who thinks that being a waiter, a delivery workers, a cab drivers, carpenter, or construction worker is lowly jobs and don't deserves respects are fools. Our life is so comfortable because of them, because of their hardworking mindset.

I've been a blue collar worker and a white collar worker, in different fields, big campaigns and small ones, public and private, and I can tell you all about it.
The fact is that, as a rule, white-collar workers are so well qualified that they can easily replace blue-collar workers, but they don’t want to. And this is even though their salaries are often the same. But who would want to go to work to be physically exhausted when they can sit at a computer in the office and drink coffee? Yes, sometimes your head hurts from duties and responsibilities, but it's worth it. Moreover, if you are a smart person, you can easily move from blue to white collars, you just need to show management that you don’t give a damn about the work you do.

actually even I would like to work in another country especially here in our country, the salary is too small for my work position. The salary basic offer is too small but they set a high standard for the requirements needed which I think is a little bit unfair. we are all aware that there's an inflation and all expenses are quite high wherein my salary cannot sustain my needs and wants no matter how frugal I do on a daily basis. Sometimes I envy those people who left our country to work abroad because, Yes we are already there where they sacrificed a few years in another country but if you look back, it was so worth it when they were away from their family because somehow all the plans were fulfilled and life became easier.

Maybe this is also the case in several other countries, because I also see that there are more workers in my country who are very happy to work in other countries in the profession they currently have. This is of course because the influence of the salary they receive abroad is much greater than the salary available in their own country, so it can trigger more people to go abroad to hunt for a bigger salary with the skills they have. That is a very real thing that I have seen in the last few years up to now.

Skilled workers has higher wage but unfortunately not domestically. Skilled workers here in my country works abroad to have a much higher rate. This is the sad reality that happens in third world country like mine but these workers also help our economy by sending money in. Our nurses, wielders, midwife, plumbers, cook, domestic helpers, teachers etc. were involve in this and they made better pay rate than working locally.

I thought I was gonna read some wage gap bs between men and women when I saw the title but I'm glad it's about the different type of professions and skills.

Yup! There is money to be made in this line of jobs since there are only a few who are willing. Even those considered as doing the "dirty jobs" like plumbers and garbage collectors are paid well.

I believe @OP is live in third world country where the salary sucks, it's actually not the white or blue collar get paid different, but any jobs will be paid less since there are many unemployment who willing to work with lower salary.

In first world country, manual worker or service is expensive, this also because of lack of population.

Highly skilled tradesmen can earn a lot of money. Bricklayers for example earn a lot in my country because there is a shortage of them. I think if you get a trade & perfect it you can earn just as much as any white collar job.
I know tradesmen who earn six figures ($) so there are no lack of opportunities if you are a skilled manual worker.

Maybe every company, for example, that sets up its business in one place, especially those that already have a name, say that they have gone international, usually they always match and follow the regulations in the operational area where they work, especially if they employ local workers, not permanent employees of the company. So, the salary for workers will be adjusted to regulations in that area, at least not less than the daily minimum wage that has been set.

In my response above, you'll notice there are types of power; physical and brain power. The brain power required to work on the computer each day may be higher than the physical power those in the field would use in working each day. I've been a field worker, working outside the company in delivering products, it's quite energy exhausting and we would think that the cashier in the house calculating money doesn't do anything, yet he earns more than the field workers. later I was able to realize that, the cashier faces more risk each day than the field workers. He'd have to correlate the number of products leaving the warehouse and the amount of money we generated for the day. Work responsibility differs, and whatever duty is termed work, requires energy and power to keep up with it each day. Risk is on both sides of the workers, indoor or outdoor. But skills differ, which changes the payment rate for working in different departments.

Critical thinking consumes lots of energy for workers who require it to execute their daily tasks, but the person who is doing delivery would think he's doing the most job and exhausts more energy everyday yet earning quite a little salary. I thought like this, but later realized after doing some internship programs with a famous company, I understood that some people hold the success of the company, and whenever the company is in trouble those people would have sleepless nights trying to resolve the dispute. While the field workers would end work for the day and sleep at home with their loved ones. If there should be a pay raise, everybody deserves it, including the field and computer workers. They are both needed to build a successful company. It depends on the number of people who can execute the task. Delivery jobs seem to have lots of people who can fit into the field, but the tech aspect of the company can only have a few competent eligible to build the company using that aspect.

Most people want to have a good job, an adequate salary, or pay an employee properly. The problem is that there are other employers who do not follow the correct procedure for paying wages to their employees.

There are also other employers who look down on employees. Which is not correct, but there are also other employers who know how to appreciate their employees. If that's discrimination, I think in every country there is something like that that really happens.

For sure there would be those people would be saying that the thing that deserves for them to be paid like that is on educational attainment but considering the default or normal qualifications within those jobs on which
it is really that still requiring on having a degree.Therefore, it isnt really just that precise or right that they would really be making it as a main qualifications considering that people would be mostly having that educational attainment. In some countries or places in the world on which those jobs that are having that much more stressing and force-related or something involves a dirty type of job does really pays well
but here in our country then it would really be that totally opposite on which to those who are sitting into those comfy office chairs are being paid more. Well, this is what the world we are living
for on which inequality is always be the real thing.

If you wont really make yourself do work hard your ass off then you wont really be able to survive this cruel world. The only option you could do is to make yourself having a business
or would be able to make huge money via investment so that you wont really be needing to work for your boss.  

Let's differentiate to put all their in perspectives

White collar are highly skilled people that doesn't perform manual jobs as they are the management that gives directions that is cascaded down to those who are to do them. They are well read and cultured

Blue collar are people that are not that educated that works in factories & do manual job

Based on the above, Jobs are in categories and these categories are renumerated based on their importance to organization. Need to mention also that both white collar & blue collar have hierarchy with the system.

Since blue collar are manual labour they are poorly paid because is believed that no thinking is needed in getting their jobs done but that the thinking is been done by white collar guys that get paid well which is correct

Mining for example, white collar guys do the  planning, from how many manual guys is needed per day/per job, logistics needed, safety  protocols in sites, number of hours to work per shift etc while blue collar/manual guys is to go to section apportioned to them, say drilling, which he will perform for the rest of the day.

White collar gets the big pay because they do the thinking while blue collar operationalize white collar objectives.

Its normal about payment salary in job, some one have skill and experienced will earn much payment salary than beginner with less experienced and first time working on some company. I think not relate when comparison with some worker have skill but many of them keep working in front of computer have higher salary payment than worker on the field with hard working but keep less payment salary. Simple way in job system, you want to earn much payment salary you need push up your skill and automatically become more needed by many companies and get priority with bigger salary payment.

In fact, our job is not relate with how much our responsibility such as delivery workers with potential risk on the road but they payment under some one else working in the front of computer have low risk.

The reverse is the case in some countries. Skilled workers are more important and have higher pay than the blue collar workers. Literally it all depends on how you place your standard if your skilled person. There is this freedom in which you have to give yourself any value you want not minding what kind of skill you have.

Some persons are into furniture making yet they live a luxurous life because they run the business in such a way that they go for the best cleint. This is because they know their worth and the quality of services they can render. Honestly i prefer the white collar jobs more than the blue collar jobs. This is because i have full control of my business, i choose the amount i want as payment and i decide when i want to work. Which gives me more time to upskill and also attend to family.