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Quote from: kentrolla on December 16, 2023, 02:01:46 PM

There has always been a huge difference in the pay scale between the white collar jobs and blue collar or skilled labor wherein the later one put in more effort physically and do more hardwork than the earlier one.

Should there be market correction done for skilled labors?

Some will say that an white collar employee is more mentally drained out hence they deserve better pay but people who do menial job stop working the world will just rot as everything cannot be done but robots and AI.

It's sometimes sad to see how they are treated disrespectfully, be it a waiter, delivery workers, cab drivers, carpenter, or construction workers as they are the pillars and without them things will start falling apart. I know some of these can be automated but not everything.

its not all white collar workers that are being paid well. If I understand your idea of who does a white collar job, its someone who doesn't use his physical strength to do his job but rather sit in a place and carry out his job routine. They can include, bankers, Secretary, receptionist, managers and lots of others birth at the too and button of those kinds of jobs. although their work isn't always that physical, they still burn a whole lot of energy doing it. If we want to narrow our discussion down to the difference in their pay, some field workers earn way more than most white collar workers and it's more if how skilled the person is than if the person is using his energy to do the job.

Their ate jobs that demands the exertion of physical energy and regardless of how skilled you are, if you don't literally work physically, you won't get shit done

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in a fair market. a business would calculate its costs EG bills, equipment, produce, tax.. AND LABOUR

where labour is rated as a percentage of the business income and people are paid based on their effort to generate that income
such as a form of commission/productivity bonus rated by their jobs function, the harder they work to generate more sales, the more they get paid

but that would involve a fair market

the downside of a fair market is if there were 2 businesses selling the exact same products at the exact same prices with the same bills,costs
if one business was selling half as many products. the employees would get paid less

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there are real economic reasons why female (soccer) football players get paid less than male footballers.. because the spectators buying tickets total less total income in female football.. if the ticket income was equal then the stadiums can afford to pay female footballers equal pay

its the same as different leagues. the lower leagues get paid less due to lower ticket income

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Quote from: kentrolla on December 16, 2023, 02:01:46 PM

There has always been a huge difference in the pay scale between the white collar jobs and blue collar or skilled labor wherein the later one put in more effort physically and do more hardwork than the earlier one.

Should there be market correction done for skilled labors?

Some will say that an white collar employee is more mentally drained out hence they deserve better pay but people who do menial job stop working the world will just rot as everything cannot be done but robots and AI.

It's sometimes sad to see how they are treated disrespectfully, be it a waiter, delivery workers, cab drivers, carpenter, or construction workers as they are the pillars and without them things will start falling apart. I know some of these can be automated but not everything.

I feel the thing has to do with the company itself, because there are companies that pay blue collar job very well, big companies pay their waiters, drivers and cleaners good money too, same way some white collar jobs have also worker's with low pay grade, i believe it's has to do a lot with the company and the amount they are ready to pay her workers. there are jobs that do have low pay grade but generally it has to do with what the company has to offer not minding the skill or department the workers will find themselves.

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Quote from: kentrolla on December 16, 2023, 02:01:46 PM

There has always been a huge difference in the pay scale between the white collar jobs and blue collar or skilled labor wherein the later one put in more effort physically and do more hardwork than the earlier one.

Should there be market correction done for skilled labors?

Some will say that an white collar employee is more mentally drained out hence they deserve better pay but people who do menial job stop working the world will just rot as everything cannot be done but robots and AI.

It's sometimes sad to see how they are treated disrespectfully, be it a waiter, delivery workers, cab drivers, carpenter, or construction workers as they are the pillars and without them things will start falling apart. I know some of these can be automated but not everything.

This is just one more example of the supply and demand in action, if the job in question is something that anyone with minimum literacy can do then it is not going to be well payed no matter how much you do not like this situation, however if you have a rare skill, your specific profession is in high demand or you are simply very skilled on your particular profession then you are going to make a lot of money, now if even that is not enough for you then people should strive to create their own business or simply become an independent contractor so they can obtain even more profits from their skills.

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Quote from: kentrolla on December 16, 2023, 02:01:46 PM

It's sometimes sad to see how they are treated disrespectfully, be it a waiter, delivery workers, cab drivers, carpenter, or construction workers as they are the pillars and without them things will start falling apart. I know some of these can be automated but not everything.

Switchboard operators, elevator operators, concierge , coachmen, lamplighters , ice cutter, linotype operator, town crier....the world will fall apart.
No, it won't!

Quote from: kentrolla on December 16, 2023, 02:01:46 PM

Should there be market correction done for skilled labors?

You mean intervene in a market and forget everything about true economics and fix wages?
Yeah, worked wonders in the past, I mean if it failed 100 times before the is no true guarantee it will fail again, right?

You get paid what you're worth, it doesn't mean anything if you're white or blue collar, a nurse is white collar and still makes 1/3 of what a good electrician would make. If there are 100 like you there is no need to pay extra, if you're the sigle one with that skill and there is demand for it you're going to get paid way better than anyone.

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I have personally thought about this topic in the past. And to be honest, I am not sure on where I exactly stand.
I believe that indeed people who do manual labor should be appreciated and respected by their bosses and provide a good salary for them to develop their life as human beings, in a decent way.
On the other hand, those how go to college and learn a second language are more paid for the same bosses of those manual workers, and there comes the collision of ideas.

If the government and the private sector started to pay the same to all of the type of employees or increased the salary of those who do manual labor, then those who are white collar and educated workers would be discouraged to work, even students may feel discouraged to go to college and instead get right into do manual works, because they would get enough money, in their opinion.

Even though, I think Ai and the use of robots to replace much of the labor force is an idea which is gaining force with each year that passes, societies on the planet should get and enforce a set of rules so millions of people won't get unemployed at the same time and rates of crime start to rise out of control in developed countries.

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There has always been a huge difference in the pay scale between the white collar jobs and blue collar or skilled labor wherein the later one put in more effort physically and do more hardwork than the earlier one.

Should there be market correction done for skilled labors?

Some will say that an white collar employee is more mentally drained out hence they deserve better pay but people who do menial job stop working the world will just rot as everything cannot be done but robots and AI.

It's sometimes sad to see how they are treated disrespectfully, be it a waiter, delivery workers, cab drivers, carpenter, or construction workers as they are the pillars and without them things will start falling apart. I know some of these can be automated but not everything.

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