[Payout Updates] Bitcoinica site is taken offline for security investigation - page 28.

genjix

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Are you asking me to make a blog?

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‘Processing pay outs’, yes. Yet another prompt reply. It seems you are so active on these forums, I wonder how you get the time of day with all this awful processing.

Yes, it was people in this thread asking for regular updates on payouts (which I'm giving). I cannot both be active, and not be active in giving updates.

bremer-btc-user

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sorry for my bad english typing I'm quite upset...
Sorry @genjix maybe your not the one to be the one to be blamed for this, but you wrote sonething about stupid statements...so it was you i targeted...

bremer-btc-user

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Quote from: genjix on June 28, 2012, 03:32:56 PM

Quote from: Vladimir on June 28, 2012, 02:56:36 PM

Bitcoinica LP crew is definitely not businessmen at heart. Should have set up a blog, with daily updates, put adsense ad on it. They would by now make more money out that blog that it was stolen. LOL

This has got to be the stupidest post I've read. Why would be blogging instead of processing payouts? And putting ads on there? I'd rather not be a businessman then. Thanks for the bad advice.

@ genjix
why do you call us or any individual "Stupid"?
stupid is:
- to have no security concept at all
- stupid ist to get no backups at all
- stupid ist ot process payout that don't happen mostly at all for weeks and weeks
- stupid is to try to avoid fraudulent claims instead of pay out whats claimed at 100% on fragments of restored data that maybe never will be restored fully, even if it means to take a bis loss even if it needs to find an other investor to bear this, instead of sort out some prooved fake-claims an pay the rest.
- stupid is to strugle with resaech that will not proove anything instead of pay and build new an origianlly sucessful businessm, instead of destroying all confidence your customers ever had and will have in future...

this annoys me, at bicoinica according the hack there ist told "the hacker stole from us not from you", so this means in fact NOW YOU STEAL EVERY DAY FROM US !!!!

it is nor our duty to proove if our claims are honest,ITS YOURS to do so if it's not!!!! Pay what's ours not yours! pay even more than what ever was our's if your not able to proove that a claim is a faked!

Anyhing else will continue this endless pain!!!!

ydenys

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Sorry had to post that, more reserved normally. Hot day.

ydenys

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Quote from: genjix on June 28, 2012, 03:32:56 PM

Quote from: Vladimir on June 28, 2012, 02:56:36 PM

Bitcoinica LP crew is definitely not businessmen at heart. Should have set up a blog, with daily updates, put adsense ad on it. They would by now make more money out that blog that it was stolen. LOL

This has got to be the stupidest post I've read. Why would be blogging instead of processing payouts? And putting ads on there? I'd rather not be a businessman then. Thanks for the bad advice.

‘Processing pay outs’, yes. Yet another prompt reply. It seems you are so active on these forums, I wonder how you get the time of day with all this awful processing. Sure a nice reply as usual, ‘call the police – forget about your money’ style, so valiant, so true and tothe point. I may even believe that some people did get their money back. Maybe can even name all 8 of them. I just wiped my mouth, pity. You, guys, can hope if you choose, but take your hope for what it is; imposing this disease on others is just a bad taste.

Anyway, these people are damned whatever they do with not much of a future in the Bitcoin project. Zou is ‘out’ for a reason. (Whatever ‘hash not found’ spin they may put on it for the gullible ones). They know it, their sponsors know it. Talk about a deal which went sour/conspiracies if you choose, possible law enforcement; but kindly asking them for ‘updates’ and your money back is so sickeningly naïve.

On the other hand, maybe just give them a few more months to filter out all those overwhelmingly credible fake claims. They are not the bad guys, after all. Post some encouragement. Keep checking your email, obviously. Checking your claim page may also do your health some good.

ninjarobot

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Mine Silent, Mine Deep

49 days later... still looking at a big fat 0

I felt like a fool for trusting Bitcoinica with my money & I still feel like a fool for trusting Bitcoinica to refund my money.

I am not a small customer (5 digit USD currency account, 4 digit BTC currency account). I kept my own records. And most of it should be really easy to verify. For example I wired 10K USD to their CORE CREDIT bank account in NZ that cleared on May 09, 2012. No positions. Why do I have to put up with all this 'soon' nonsense when Patrick, Donald and Zhou have confirmed my claim is accurate weeks ago?

genjix

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Quote from: Vladimir on June 28, 2012, 02:56:36 PM

Bitcoinica LP crew is definitely not businessmen at heart. Should have set up a blog, with daily updates, put adsense ad on it. They would by now make more money out that blog that it was stolen. LOL

This has got to be the stupidest post I've read. Why would be blogging instead of processing payouts? And putting ads on there? I'd rather not be a businessman then. Thanks for the bad advice.

Vladimir

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Bitcoinica LP crew is definitely not businessmen at heart. Should have set up a blog, with daily updates, put adsense ad on it. They would by now make more money out that blog that it was stolen. LOL

S3052

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Quote from: guruvan on June 28, 2012, 11:03:49 AM

OK - so........... I got a mail that my account is verified as accurate - but nothing but crickets after.

I was apparently under the mistaken impression that meant I was to see some kind of funds returned?

Again - wtf? Kinda irritating because now I'm checking the damn inbox again, and I really don't want to check if the check isn't coming in the mail. Tongue

Or, are we doing the - communicate one line of email and then nothing for yet another month. This game is getting tiring Sad

same for me, checking emails several times per day, without any news any more.. very disappointing

guruvan

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OK - so........... I got a mail that my account is verified as accurate - but nothing but crickets after.

I was apparently under the mistaken impression that meant I was to see some kind of funds returned?

Again - wtf? Kinda irritating because now I'm checking the damn inbox again, and I really don't want to check if the check isn't coming in the mail. Tongue

Or, are we doing the - communicate one line of email and then nothing for yet another month. This game is getting tiring Sad

dopamine

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Well anyone that has funds or bitcoins with bitcoinica is experiencing what a bank holiday is. This is not acceptable, what they should of did was return everyone funds/bitcoins @ 100% whatever was deposited. Why should a customer absorb any losses on open positions or have to wait over a month to receive there funds. The worst part is I haven't even seen 50% of my bitcoins. Now the question is how many months will it take to get 100% refund? 3 months? 6 months?

S3052

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If they go back online, I would consider using them again, but only if I will get the funds back soon. I do not accpet this taking longer than 2 months

dopamine

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I will not be using bitcoinica if they ever go back online, this is unacceptable, hopefully bitdaytrade.com will replace bitcoinica.com

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Quote from: kokjo on June 26, 2012, 10:41:49 AM

please STFU about the police, what do you want them to do? magically fixing the database, so that everyone can get there money? shoot genjix?

they can do absolutely nothing in this case, except messing things more up. so please STFU.

You STFU. It's important for people to understand this was an inside job.

why is it important?

personally i dont care; i just want to have my money back (btw this thread is called "Payout update" not "find the hacker").

It's important because people are talking about trusting these scammers a second time. And btw, the thread is called security investigation as well.

Your post is so incredibly selfish... you don't care how many coins they steal from others as long as YOU are made whole. Pathetic.

i am not selfish. i just dont like playing police.
and: if everybody gets back their money i dont see a problem with trusting them again.

just keep in mind their information policy Wink

ashleyconnor

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Quote from: bitlane on June 03, 2012, 03:08:16 PM

Quote from: ?? on ??

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Naughty...

Are you an Intersango sock puppet ?

Quote from: ashleyconnor on September 02, 2011, 04:42:53 PM

Hello all,
I'll be incorporating here in the UK and setting up bank accounts in England to accept sterling and Ireland to accept Euros. There doesn't seem to be any easy way accept US dollars without substantial wire fees.

...sorry. Had to ask.

Just seen this.

No we're not trying to get into the exchange business. Their email leak was the best indication of the UK bitcoin market which according to the leak is virtually non-existent.

Transisto

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Quote from: disclaimer201 on June 26, 2012, 03:31:01 PM

Ok now, dudes that are not missing a single dime shall piss off and let the crew work. Go and publish your conspiracies in another thread. Here, we care about being paid back only....

You might want to subscribe to this locked thread instead to avoid the casual useless posts.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/actual-bitcoinica-updates-only-daily-89782

I'm re-posting (within an hours) every Genjix and phantomcircuit post related to Bitcoinica.
I might also post relevant posts made by other users (to my discretion).

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Ok now, dudes that are not missing a single dime shall piss off and let the crew work. Go and publish your conspiracies in another thread. Here, we care about being paid back only. I'd really like to see everyone of the bigger fish to start seeing some cash, at some point you just have to take on higher risk. Can't wait forever to pay out the larger sums.

I don't agree with blackmailing, but right now a police investigation is very late and above all, useless. It's only going to distract the payout process. Again, start paying the big fish so people will be relieved and tension goes down.

genjix

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I am supposed to only give out the status for emails. Accounts are in 3 states:

- Fake. This is a minority of accounts so far we are certain are impostors.
- Accurate. At my last count, this was around 1 in 20 (5%). Only a portion of these has been paid so far. Still working through paying these people back (I don't have access to funds personally. It works like Donald gets a portion and does them in chunks at a time with proper authorisation from Tihan and Patrick).
- Queued. Majority of claims are in the queue waiting to be examined. Around half (a guess) of claims I believed were accurate, and various fakes got pushed back into the "lets examine then later category". Most simply haven't been looked at yet.

The idea is to sort out claims with the highest certainty (this means quicker payouts), then as you work down, you reconcile them with other payments. I know people here are congratulating me, but I've actually been a hindrance for the claims process. Several times, I caused some mix-ups and confusion so Donald hands me batches/tasks to complete at a time.

BadBitcoin (James Sutton)

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to be honest genjix, all of these frustrations in this thread will cease once we start seeing progress, I don't think anyone here is angry at you personally, just (like me) wants their money back.

Transisto

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Quote from: thest0ckman on June 26, 2012, 02:02:31 PM

genjix can you please look into my account it is the same user name i use on this forum.

can you tell us when holders of us dollars will get paid?

No he can't please PM or email him.

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