sorry for reposting what i just posted in the newbie section but I seriously think we should work together and want my suggestions make heard!
A few things should be made very clear to everybody.
One of the first things we considered was having a court appointed liquidator.
It was decided that this was not the correct course of action for several reasons, first and foremost it would be significantly expensive and would be a significant delay.
Additionally we couldn't answer how they would treat bitcoin deposits.
If anybody decides to file a criminal complaint you will effectively guarantee that it will be months or even years before anybody sees their funds.
Seriously doing that is not the best way to get you funds back, indeed it is far from it.
As for isis100 there isn't even a record of your being a registered user and you have completely failed to forward any information you have to
[email protected]Again we are working on making this entire process be as fair as possible but the constant pressure from people who as far as i can tell are either just bored and entertaining themselves or attempting to scam funds is making the process take much longer than it should.
Since I am unable to respond to phantomcircuit in his original post:
The only thing I see is that you guys (Intersango crew, Zhou Tong, your Investors), only seem to buy yourself time and became hopelessly entangled in contradictions. Genjix told us he finished working on the claims because the only thing keeping you from starting the refund process beeing internal legal competency issues which you couldn't specify further so far. And
all out of the sudden the problem again is the eligibility of claims filed.
What you also seem to have forgotten is your statement after the incident by offering only an 80% return or even less.
The thief stole from us not you. All withdrawal requests will be honored.
You had many chances to clarify the situation or publish official statements - looking back at the past chaotic weeks I have no hope that this will change. You threatening your customers not to go down the road to solve the problems legally doesn't put you in a more favourable light. I DO think it is the best thing that can happen to you - has anybody of you a clue about what kind of customers are involved here? The little insight I have already would scare the shit out of me (NO not all of them 15 year old kids gambling with their pocket money you could get seriously hurt).
I therefore propose all injured parties involved to get quickly organized to:- -firstly compose common demands for information which are expected to be answered to the point given a concrete deadline
- -appoint a group representative whom Bitcoinica has to grant deeper insight to verify that (and how much) assets are still there
- -and lastly gather the community around major stakeholders who are willing to file a lawsuit by contributing expertise and offering financial support
- -the pioneers taking action against Bitcoinica will deserve all our support because they lower the bar (especially financially) for those succeeding
I am very thankful for a follow-up of my suggestions in the original thread and ask for someone better connected in the community than me to gather all claimants. We might have to set up a tool to coordinate and vote for collective action. Who can quickly set this up (a google doc f.i.)?
In addition I ask you kindly to suppress your impulse for empty threats and defamation out of impotence. It just won't help. We all gambled and knew that. Its up to us all to find the one who doped the horse...First step: collect pressing questions of general interest
Please participate and share - the more the merrier in terms of legimitation!Collection of Questions:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Am1BreCmW153dFhzbndPY3MwYmgwb2k2TkZudkRUemcafter I see people picking up my suggestions I will set up a deadline for the collection period to have a public vote on which questions will be passed on to be answered by Bitcoinica. Please don't hesitate to act - since the process is already running long enough!