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Quote from: Hell-raiser on September 19, 2018, 09:34:14 AM

~ Unsurprisingly, you can't buy power with money as it is worth a way more than money can ever buy. ~

I disagree with thins. It's a common practice when people buy a position of a member of parliament. They buy it by bribing the voters or by bribing significant political figures. And when you are a member of parliament you have power. But of course they do that to have the opportunity to obtain more money eventually, so even in this case they are still motivated by money.

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In this situation people achieve money by doing various purpose.Which money assure ones future is valuable but the money which stay for temporary time is can't motive anybody.

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I don't think all of them are motivated from money, I think money can provide very good motivation and is very good because money can make many people become very rich and can buy anything they want.

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Quote from: squog on September 18, 2018, 07:50:47 PM

Olympiads are motivated for the glory of the sport.

And yes, there are other clear motivational aspects - glory is undoubtedly one, and not just for Olympians.

Fame and glory (as you call it) are also inseparably and inherently linked to prosperity. So even in such matters money plays an important role, though it is clear that in most such cases it is secondary and comes as a nice bonus. But there's one thing which is greater than money itself, and it is called power, as I've written about that in another thread here.

When you have power, like that of a dictator, you don't need money anymore as you can take everything directly, whether it can be bought with money or not. Unsurprisingly, you can't buy power with money as it is worth a way more than money can ever buy. In this fashion, people who are looking for power are not interested in money as money for them can be only a tool or a means, among many others, not a goal.

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Quote from: hanlap on September 19, 2018, 08:48:01 AM

Most people will motivate a lot for money because their main reason is business and profit. There are also a few who are interested in technology and the development of the new age.

people's needs and desires become the main motivation for people to earn money. nonsense if people don't have the will to get money for their future.

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Quote from: syaripudin on September 19, 2018, 05:32:36 AM

not everyone will think like that, especially for people who are at the lowest level of the economy. I think for people with low economic levels of money it will be a motivation for them because of course they will think that without money they will not be able to meet the needs of life.

Values become more heterogeneous and we cannot just assess assumptions from just one class, I am also in the group you mentioned and remain optimistic about looking for opportunities to make a profit, but one of the most important things is that I also have a job in business real because it's not easy to hang everything on crypto, especially for now, I try to calm down and still deepen the knowledge of price and momentum analysis.

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Too lying when we say that money is not the goal of knowledge because in the end that knowledge will make money if it is patented by someone who finds that knowledge. Money is an additional motivation for someone to create new discoveries that are certainly beneficial to everyone later.

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Yeah, I see you have a point, and I agree till some extent. But if you do not meet the minimum needs (e.g. housing, food, and list goes on) than I would see how motivated people were to innovate... I guess it would just create stress and anger. I would rather put it like this: people are not always motivated by money, but until a certain point, it plays a huge role. Innovative side comes just right after the minimal needs (which can also differ from person to person)

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Quote from: atliens99 on September 12, 2018, 12:12:19 PM

I always hear the argument for capitalism "B bb BUT people won't innovate without the profit motive" WRONG

Humans want to solve problems, create, and innovate, they do not need money to motivate them. Cavemen were painting art 20,000 years ago without the desire of money.

True scientists like Tesla, he didn't care about money it was about the pursuit of science.

Capitalism does not cause innovation, most new technology is found by government programs like nasa (internet, smartphones, etc)

There are activities/jobs which some people would eagerly do without any payment if their daily living needs were met at the same time. That's what was happening with the cavemen you've mentioned and that was the case with many scientists, poets, artists etc in the past. I'm sure there are people like that nowadays too. However, there are many jobs which have to be done for the sake of humanity's' survival, but those jobs are not so entertaining and nobody wants to do them without payment.

Also, if you think that people working at NASA receive small payments, you are terribly wrong, my friend. NASA employees earn $62,000 - $126,000 annually, and get many other benefits in a form of meetings in exotic places of the world etc. Maybe they are not motivated by money, but I personally wouldn't wish for them to do the same job living in a Gulag.

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Most people will motivate a lot for money because their main reason is business and profit. There are also a few who are interested in technology and the development of the new age.

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I agree, money is very weak motivation. People need understanding of meaning of their job. And when they have understanding of their way. It bring awesome result.

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Quote from: Norihiro on September 16, 2018, 03:39:42 PM

I'd disagree because can you ask all your relatives why do they do their work even though they don't like it? Money will be the answer, and it is pure motivation.

Well, categorically speaking, we cannot say everyone is not motivated by money, most especially in this our current life where money is thoroughly needed. However, with what the OP said, it is true for those who are passion driven, ready to innovate to make a difference in the world and even without some cash at their disposal, that zeal and urge to do something out of the box, just keeps driving them as much as possible.

Money sure helps to achieve things faster though, but not necessarily an obstacle for someone who really wants to do something out of the ordinary.

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not everyone will think like that, especially for people who are at the lowest level of the economy. I think for people with low economic levels of money it will be a motivation for them because of course they will think that without money they will not be able to meet the needs of life.

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Quote from: PlusOne88 on September 12, 2018, 12:47:24 PM

This is a divided stand. On a normal situation when people may not need money, everything doesn't have to priced. On the other hand it would be easy to do things with money. This idea can be proven by events happening in the real world. Look at how corruption becomes an almost fulltime job for the corrupt officials. This is just a clear proof that money is a motivation.

So true. The reason why there are almost all people who do work is because they need money. Or all people works because they need money, therefore money is a motivation that leads everyone to do work. In this world, money is the key for everything so it is a primary needs for everyone. In connection to the cryptocurrency, people tends to engaged with this because of the possibility of earning huge amount of money.

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Not everyone is motivated by money. I mean slot of people have lived their lives without the thought of money simply because they're not exposed to it. Others simply wants to perfect their chosen craft. Capitalism or no, people will work their ass off not just for money but for something bigger than themselves.

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I think this is true in some cases because as far as i know, people would like to work to have money to buy the basic needs of a human being (Clothing, shelter, and food). Since everything is bought through the use of money, then it is just the same that some people are motivated by money to buy everything they want.

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Quote from: atliens99 on September 12, 2018, 12:12:19 PM

I always hear the argument for capitalism "B bb BUT people won't innovate without the profit motive" WRONG

Humans want to solve problems, create, and innovate, they do not need money to motivate them. Cavemen were painting art 20,000 years ago without the desire of money.

True scientists like Tesla, he didn't care about money it was about the pursuit of science.

Capitalism does not cause innovation, most new technology is found by government programs like nasa (internet, smartphones, etc)

I tend to disagree buddy,because people of old ages is can be compared by animal behavior because of non presence of money or gold,but when time comes that goldnd money has created and learned people don’t stop to striving just to gather how manys they can have

Today all the problems are answerable by money sometimes even the emotional aspect requires money also to resolve,by going to bars having some fun and everything that luxurious to them

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Quote from: squog on September 18, 2018, 07:50:47 PM

Most humans are motivated by money because well who doesn't want money. But fact still remains that people are not motivated solely by money. Olympiads are motivated for the glory of the sport. Teachers are motivated by the progress of their students. Capitalism i think made a generalized observation as compared to other economic models.

no wonder if it's like that. at this time, almost false is a measure of money. money is something that is really needed, not only people, but also the state makes it very important. So, sometimes a lot of money is a motivation for us to work hard.

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Quote from: atliens99 on September 12, 2018, 12:12:19 PM

Cavemen were painting art 20,000 years ago without the desire of money.

I don't think it's possible to paint everyone with the same brush, there is a large proportion of people that are absolutely motivated by money. For some it is necessity, others it's desire and/or greed. You're right that some people don't need money for motivation, but using cavemen as an example isn't proving much. Back then it was survival of the fittest, and if someone else had something you wanted/needed, you just fought for it or took it, exchanges of goods hadn't really kicked in. There are individuals who don't require money for motivation, but often it's because they already have the financial stability (at least without starving anyway) to be able to devote their time and energy to innovation.

Quote from: squog on September 18, 2018, 07:50:47 PM

Olympiads are motivated for the glory of the sport.

And yes, there are other clear motivational aspects - glory is undoubtedly one, and not just for Olympians.

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Most humans are motivated by money because well who doesn't want money. But fact still remains that people are not motivated solely by money. Olympiads are motivated for the glory of the sport. Teachers are motivated by the progress of their students. Capitalism i think made a generalized observation as compared to other economic models.

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