[ POLL ] The Unification Fight: FURY vs USYK 17th FEBRUARY 2024 - page 19.

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Lets hope that nothing interferes them from having a fight in May (should be change topic name? huh?). Otherwise someone can be called chicken if the fights gets canceled or postponed again.

Should we get back to this topic the closer fight date is or continue to speculate? Cheesy

Do you think that cut was accidental or made on purpose? Its weeks before fight, why not wear headgear? Can such cut really make so much influence on performance? Shouldnt it heal just partly till Feb 17? Fighters with such cuts continue fighting, while Fury has 2 weeks and millions to spend on doctors.

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Quote from: nimogsm on February 04, 2024, 08:20:57 AM

The fight was postponed to May 18 and now it will definitely take place.
Direct speech from the organizer: “The last attempt is when we can hold this fight, and I have set the date - May 18. I have guarantees from both boxers - 10 million [dollars], if anyone - then he refuses the fight [his opponent will receive]. 10 million is not from us, we guarantee it - 10 million from their personal funds."
In this case, the fight will be more interesting since the athletes will have more time to prepare, and the public will be more interested in watching since the event will be final and there should be no more postponements.

So if either fighter pulls out of the fight they would be on the hook for $10 million. That is very interesting. I wonder about the logistics of this agreement. Do they actually have $20 million in escrow, $10 million from each, or is it just a contract they signed saying they will pay that amount if they don't go through with it? I just hope there are no more obstacles and we get an undisputed heavyweight champion once and for all.

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Quote from: nimogsm on February 04, 2024, 08:20:57 AM

Quote from: hilariousetc on February 03, 2024, 03:40:07 PM

https://www.youtube.com/live/q2euzZelAuA?si=mGFuKc6xhYfV7ahf

Turki, Tyson & Usyk were all just on Ariel's show. Tyson does have the cut so we at least now know it's not fake or an old injury.

Quote from: TopTort777 on February 03, 2024, 07:45:35 AM

I am also curious what is going to happen to all event in general. If the main event is cancelled, will the other fight also be canceled? If yes, then Fury has set up a lot of other fighters, who had several weeks camp, perhaps cut weight or planned to do that, as minimum spent money on preparation. What is going on in such cases? Does anyone knows what happens in this case? Do fighters get something as cashback? Are such things stated in their contracts?

They've just pushed it back a few months. Looks like there will be no boxing on that day now. There were rumours they were tyring to get usyk another opponent but it's probably best to not risk him losing or getting injured and further delaying it.

The fight was postponed to May 18 and now it will definitely take place.
Direct speech from the organizer: “The last attempt is when we can hold this fight, and I have set the date - May 18. I have guarantees from both boxers - 10 million [dollars], if anyone - then he refuses the fight [his opponent will receive]. 10 million is not from us, we guarantee it - 10 million from their personal funds."
In this case, the fight will be more interesting since the athletes will have more time to prepare, and the public will be more interested in watching since the event will be final and there should be no more postponements.

It really depends though, most of the time, their trainers knows how many weeks they will have to go to be on their peak. In this case, for Usyk, he has to reset everything again, as his trainer doesn't want to have him overtrain.

Yes, it was good that they will have to cancel and move it to another date and not get any replacement opponent for Usyk.

So in any case, everything is on the shoulder of Fury to fulfill all the agreed upon, $10 million is huge for him if he still can't fight on May 18 and most likely the Saudi's are not going to allow him to fight anymore as His Highness, Turki Alalshikh will be done on Fury's antics.

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Quote from: nimogsm on February 04, 2024, 08:20:57 AM

Quote from: hilariousetc on February 03, 2024, 03:40:07 PM

https://www.youtube.com/live/q2euzZelAuA?si=mGFuKc6xhYfV7ahf

Turki, Tyson & Usyk were all just on Ariel's show. Tyson does have the cut so we at least now know it's not fake or an old injury.

Quote from: TopTort777 on February 03, 2024, 07:45:35 AM

I am also curious what is going to happen to all event in general. If the main event is cancelled, will the other fight also be canceled? If yes, then Fury has set up a lot of other fighters, who had several weeks camp, perhaps cut weight or planned to do that, as minimum spent money on preparation. What is going on in such cases? Does anyone knows what happens in this case? Do fighters get something as cashback? Are such things stated in their contracts?

They've just pushed it back a few months. Looks like there will be no boxing on that day now. There were rumours they were tyring to get usyk another opponent but it's probably best to not risk him losing or getting injured and further delaying it.

The fight was postponed to May 18 and now it will definitely take place.
Direct speech from the organizer: “The last attempt is when we can hold this fight, and I have set the date - May 18. I have guarantees from both boxers - 10 million [dollars], if anyone - then he refuses the fight [his opponent will receive]. 10 million is not from us, we guarantee it - 10 million from their personal funds."
In this case, the fight will be more interesting since the athletes will have more time to prepare, and the public will be more interested in watching since the event will be final and there should be no more postponements.

On with the show then. Too disappointing to just cancel the event and there is too much work in refunding. It's best to just move the schedule. In 2 months I guess that wound will heal thoroughly. Fury's body is better too than when he fought Ngannou so they are taking this fight seriously.

$10M is more than enough for those undercards. They can't get that if the fight is held on the other soil. The cut turns out to be a blessing for all fighters.

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Quote from: hilariousetc on February 03, 2024, 03:40:07 PM

https://www.youtube.com/live/q2euzZelAuA?si=mGFuKc6xhYfV7ahf

Turki, Tyson & Usyk were all just on Ariel's show. Tyson does have the cut so we at least now know it's not fake or an old injury.

Quote from: TopTort777 on February 03, 2024, 07:45:35 AM

I am also curious what is going to happen to all event in general. If the main event is cancelled, will the other fight also be canceled? If yes, then Fury has set up a lot of other fighters, who had several weeks camp, perhaps cut weight or planned to do that, as minimum spent money on preparation. What is going on in such cases? Does anyone knows what happens in this case? Do fighters get something as cashback? Are such things stated in their contracts?

They've just pushed it back a few months. Looks like there will be no boxing on that day now. There were rumours they were tyring to get usyk another opponent but it's probably best to not risk him losing or getting injured and further delaying it.

The fight was postponed to May 18 and now it will definitely take place.
Direct speech from the organizer: “The last attempt is when we can hold this fight, and I have set the date - May 18. I have guarantees from both boxers - 10 million [dollars], if anyone - then he refuses the fight [his opponent will receive]. 10 million is not from us, we guarantee it - 10 million from their personal funds."
In this case, the fight will be more interesting since the athletes will have more time to prepare, and the public will be more interested in watching since the event will be final and there should be no more postponements.

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Turki, Tyson & Usyk were all just on Ariel's show. Tyson does have the cut so we at least now know it's not fake or an old injury.

Quote from: TopTort777 on February 03, 2024, 07:45:35 AM

I am also curious what is going to happen to all event in general. If the main event is cancelled, will the other fight also be canceled? If yes, then Fury has set up a lot of other fighters, who had several weeks camp, perhaps cut weight or planned to do that, as minimum spent money on preparation. What is going on in such cases? Does anyone knows what happens in this case? Do fighters get something as cashback? Are such things stated in their contracts?

They've just pushed it back a few months. Looks like there will be no boxing on that day now. There were rumours they were tyring to get usyk another opponent but it's probably best to not risk him losing or getting injured and further delaying it.

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There is no doubt about it, that was a nasty cut. After reviewing the video several times it does show Fury took a hit from the elbow of the sparring partner and it was unfortunate his headgear was probably just a fraction elevated at the time of impact. Fury and Usyk still have a two fight contract but there is always a danger their deal/contract could be put aside if Usyk (however unlikely) manages to lose his fight if he fights on 17th February.

18th May 2024 is the new date for the Fury vs Usyk unification fight

Quote from: bisdak40 on February 02, 2024, 09:24:11 PM

Whether it was caused by an elbow hit or head butt, it was a nasty one. Just unfortunate news for us boxing lovers who have waited for this fight to happen for months but suddenly got postponed. They should be careful enough for this kind of incident to not happen again because they have a contract to fulfill.

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Give Usyk Dubois. That would be a very good fight that would put an end to their previous low blow or not situation. But I think Usyk wont accept that. He has prepared for Fury (did he really? Or they all knew that there wont be a fight), Dubois is different and wont “cost” that much to fight him.

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Quote from: Kemarit on February 03, 2024, 04:29:36 AM

Quote from: TopTort777 on February 03, 2024, 04:18:48 AM

I knew, I knew that something is going to happen to make this fight not to happen. I had a feeling that it will be from Fury side. By the intense in the media (lack if it), by the weak promotion, by the lack of overall information, it was clear that nothing good is going to happen on Feb 17. They had so much negotiations about the fight before, they quickly made agreement to fighr on Feb 17, it was clear that something fishy is about to happen.

Yep, we don't know, we had this feeling that this fight is not going to happen as there was no promotion up to the last minute. Sometimes there are those fights that is not bound to happen. And it any case, the Saudi said that they are not going to have someone replace Fury, or at least that's how I interpret it because the statement says that they are going to refund the ticket.

Sorry for fight fans, we need to wait for Fury to heal that huge cut in his eye and then they will go on training and promotion again. Hopefully, if there is a second time, everything will be smooth and those negative emotions removed from Fury.

The gut feeling seem right after all. I wouldn't say Fury intentionally did harm himself but something just won't happen. They have been plaanning such bout for a long time and then this happen. People are dying to see a fight like this one and if they refund the fans for thier tickets I guess they just won't give this fight another schedule.

This Hrgovic look ferocious, I don't know why this guy earn his title fight but if the Saudi allow it then its on still.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on February 03, 2024, 07:45:35 AM

I am also curious what is going to happen to all event in general. If the main event is cancelled, will the other fight also be canceled? If yes, then Fury has set up a lot of other fighters, who had several weeks camp, perhaps cut weight or planned to do that, as minimum spent money on preparation. What is going on in such cases? Does anyone knows what happens in this case? Do fighters get something as cashback? Are such things stated in their contracts?

very good question, I also thought about this, most likely it is written in the contract and for every day of non-compliance there will be a penalty like a fine. It is very unfortunate that this happened, this is the second postponement of the fight and now it will take place at best by the summer if not later. There is already news in the news about a new opponent for Usyk, but few people will be interested in this since expectations will not be justified. I think a week or two and we will hear new dates and conditions of the fight.

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I am also curious what is going to happen to all event in general. If the main event is cancelled, will the other fight also be canceled? If yes, then Fury has set up a lot of other fighters, who had several weeks camp, perhaps cut weight or planned to do that, as minimum spent money on preparation. What is going on in such cases? Does anyone knows what happens in this case? Do fighters get something as cashback? Are such things stated in their contracts?

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Quote from: TopTort777 on February 03, 2024, 04:18:48 AM

I knew, I knew that something is going to happen to make this fight not to happen. I had a feeling that it will be from Fury side. By the intense in the media (lack if it), by the weak promotion, by the lack of overall information, it was clear that nothing good is going to happen on Feb 17. They had so much negotiations about the fight before, they quickly made agreement to fighr on Feb 17, it was clear that something fishy is about to happen.

Yep, we don't know, we had this feeling that this fight is not going to happen as there was no promotion up to the last minute. Sometimes there are those fights that is not bound to happen. And it any case, the Saudi said that they are not going to have someone replace Fury, or at least that's how I interpret it because the statement says that they are going to refund the ticket.

Sorry for fight fans, we need to wait for Fury to heal that huge cut in his eye and then they will go on training and promotion again. Hopefully, if there is a second time, everything will be smooth and those negative emotions removed from Fury.

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I knew, I knew that something is going to happen to make this fight not to happen. I had a feeling that it will be from Fury side. By the intense in the media (lack if it), by the weak promotion, by the lack of overall information, it was clear that nothing good is going to happen on Feb 17. They had so much negotiations about the fight before, they quickly made agreement to fighr on Feb 17, it was clear that something fishy is about to happen.

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Quote from: JollyGood on February 02, 2024, 06:37:44 PM

In that video it is clear Fury was hit by the elbow and he is fortunate it was above the eye and not on the eye itself. If it were to be stitched up and then Fury were to face Usyk before it healed, it goes without say that Usyk (or any other opponent) would definitely exploit the wound by trying to poke and jab at it in the hope the referee would stop the fight early-on.

Usyk will have to put all this behind him and try to focus on fighting the candidate put forward but the IBO have stated Hrgovic is their mandatory choice. Usylk will now have to focus on the next opponent instead of Fury and it will not be an easy fight as his tactics will change. If Usyk does end up fighting Hrgovic it will be a difficult fight because Hrgovic has won all 17 of his professional fights, 14 by knockout.

Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on February 02, 2024, 04:18:40 PM

There is leaked footage showing Fury getting hit by an elbow in sparring.
https://talksport.com/sport/1735523/leaked-footage-tyson-fury-cut-sparring-elbow-oleksandr-usyk/

The cut is in the same place where Fury was badly cut against Otto Wallin and which has been reopened in other fights. Fury’s susceptibility to getting cut has been one of his weaknesses and is something Usyk can take advantage of.

Usyk still plans to go ahead and defend his titles on February 17. Filip Hrgović, who has been the IBF mandatory since 2022 when he beat Zhilei Zhang, is being considered as a replacement opponent. Hrgović is a good fighter who would be a tough opponent, but two weeks doesn’t seem like enough time to prepare for someone of Usyk’s caliber.

Obviously that will be Usyk's main focus now, moving forward, the fight with Fury is cancelled from the original date and everyone is really affected by it. Maybe it could be a blessing for Usyk for all we know. He will have a target now and see if he can open that cut again during their fight, whatever date it is. It's the question whether Filip will be ready by February 17 or if Saudi wanted to continue with the fight as everything have been set up already but getting another fighter to replace Fury. There are a lot of conspiracies, noises being heard but I do think that it's all accidentally and that Croatian sparring partner doesn't want to deliberately damage Tyson in their sparring.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on February 02, 2024, 09:24:11 PM

Quote from: JollyGood on February 02, 2024, 01:18:53 PM

Well, that did not come as a complete surprise to those that could not explain why they felt something did not sound right about the fight. I have to say it seems very strange for Fury to have got that cut as a result of sparring. Surely he would have kept his head protective gear on while he was sparring in the ring. The cut is a bad one but the circumstances surrounding it are simply bizarre.

There seems to be a bruise surrounding the cut therefore maybe it was an unfortunate clash of heads of heads that did it, we do not know.

Whether it was caused by an elbow hit or head butt, it was a nasty one. Just unfortunate news for us boxing lovers who have waited for this fight to happen for months but suddenly got postponed. They should be careful enough for this kind of incident to not happen again because they have a contract to fulfill.

Yeah, it was very unfortunate to see him injured before the big fight, but it is what it is. And I do agree, something is not right in this fight, from the last press conference to almost no promotion. Maybe everything is already working beyond our control that this fight is not going to happen or at least be postponed and @hilariousetc have foreseen it. Shocked

It says it will require at least 3 months to heal? That's a lot of time, maybe they will have to find a opponent for Usyk, another get busy fight for him and wait till the injury heals 100%.

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Quote from: JollyGood on February 02, 2024, 01:18:53 PM

Well, that did not come as a complete surprise to those that could not explain why they felt something did not sound right about the fight. I have to say it seems very strange for Fury to have got that cut as a result of sparring. Surely he would have kept his head protective gear on while he was sparring in the ring. The cut is a bad one but the circumstances surrounding it are simply bizarre.

There seems to be a bruise surrounding the cut therefore maybe it was an unfortunate clash of heads of heads that did it, we do not know.

Whether it was caused by an elbow hit or head butt, it was a nasty one. Just unfortunate news for us boxing lovers who have waited for this fight to happen for months but suddenly got postponed. They should be careful enough for this kind of incident to not happen again because they have a contract to fulfill.

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In that video it is clear Fury was hit by the elbow and he is fortunate it was above the eye and not on the eye itself. If it were to be stitched up and then Fury were to face Usyk before it healed, it goes without say that Usyk (or any other opponent) would definitely exploit the wound by trying to poke and jab at it in the hope the referee would stop the fight early-on.

Usyk will have to put all this behind him and try to focus on fighting the candidate put forward but the IBO have stated Hrgovic is their mandatory choice. Usylk will now have to focus on the next opponent instead of Fury and it will not be an easy fight as his tactics will change. If Usyk does end up fighting Hrgovic it will be a difficult fight because Hrgovic has won all 17 of his professional fights, 14 by knockout.

Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on February 02, 2024, 04:18:40 PM

There is leaked footage showing Fury getting hit by an elbow in sparring.
https://talksport.com/sport/1735523/leaked-footage-tyson-fury-cut-sparring-elbow-oleksandr-usyk/

The cut is in the same place where Fury was badly cut against Otto Wallin and which has been reopened in other fights. Fury’s susceptibility to getting cut has been one of his weaknesses and is something Usyk can take advantage of.

Usyk still plans to go ahead and defend his titles on February 17. Filip Hrgović, who has been the IBF mandatory since 2022 when he beat Zhilei Zhang, is being considered as a replacement opponent. Hrgović is a good fighter who would be a tough opponent, but two weeks doesn’t seem like enough time to prepare for someone of Usyk’s caliber.

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There is leaked footage showing Fury getting hit by an elbow in sparring.
https://talksport.com/sport/1735523/leaked-footage-tyson-fury-cut-sparring-elbow-oleksandr-usyk/

The cut is in the same place where Fury was badly cut against Otto Wallin and which has been reopened in other fights. Fury’s susceptibility to getting cut has been one of his weaknesses and is something Usyk can take advantage of.

Usyk still plans to go ahead and defend his titles on February 17. Filip Hrgović, who has been the IBF mandatory since 2022 when he beat Zhilei Zhang, is being considered as a replacement opponent. Hrgović is a good fighter who would be a tough opponent, but two weeks doesn’t seem like enough time to prepare for someone of Usyk’s caliber.

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Well, that did not come as a complete surprise to those that could not explain why they felt something did not sound right about the fight. I have to say it seems very strange for Fury to have got that cut as a result of sparring. Surely he would have kept his head protective gear on while he was sparring in the ring. The cut is a bad one but the circumstances surrounding it are simply bizarre.

There seems to be a bruise surrounding the cut therefore maybe it was an unfortunate clash of heads of heads that did it, we do not know.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on February 01, 2024, 08:04:04 AM

Quote from: hilariousandco on January 31, 2024, 03:12:14 PM

So they finally posted the fight trailer and it's even more epic than the Fury/Ngannou and AJ/Wallin ones: https://youtu.be/uw-c-J90_ZE?si=Bx5Hu30z2poHon8o

At least they're starting the promo now. If it had've got to Feb with nothing I would have assumed it wasn't going to happen.

How cool was Fury vs Ngannou promo video, and imho how lame is Usyk vs Fury promo video. Fury seems to look like he did not even wanted to shoot or it is all AI. Usyk, he was a cowboy, gladiator, samurai while in most of his conferences he dresses in Ukrainian national clothes (Vyshyvanka) or/and gets Cossacks look.

I would prefer him to look more like this:

Politics aside, but this looks suits him better, than this outlaw look. I understand that that Cossack wont fit in the video at all, but they could have changed its script or make more funny like Fury vs Ngannou. Usyk loves to have fun, he would sign for that easily.

I thought the video was great. They've gone for a western theme for the fight with Ring of Fire so it's in line with that. Usyk being in traditional dress wouldn't have made much sense but maybe he'll do that for the press conference or face-offs etc.

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on February 02, 2024, 12:51:24 PM

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Tyson Fury has suffered a cut in training and is out of the undisputed heavyweight title fight with Oleksandr Usyk, Usyk's manager, Egis Klimas, told
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. I mean are we believing this was a freak accident or just a very convenient one? The cut does look nasty but given the circumstances regarding the promotion of this fight I wouldn't at all be surprised if this was purposely done. How the hell did he even do it? Sparring? If so, what is he doing having heavy sparring two weeks before a fight. Very suspicious to me. Logan Paul fought on with a cut that he got the day before the fight, though admittedly it wasn't as bad and not above the eye.

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