[ POLL ] The Unification Fight: FURY vs USYK 17th FEBRUARY 2024 - page 19.

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We do not know what the real reason was for Fury to totally ignore Usyk instead of staring at each other but I do not think it was because he was scared. If anything, Fury looked very relaxed and in some way was at ease with himself and I think that must have been his plan. Usyk also did not deviate from his plan, which was show Fury he was interested in the mind games.

It was refreshing to see a different style of face-off, if the fight turns out to be a total boring encounter at least we can look back on the face-off and laugh.

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Right, when we have seen recently about fighters having a long stare-down of 3-4 minutes and I thought this will be the new trend obviously you wanted to look at your opponents eye and try to intimidate him somewhat and read what's on his mind.

Now comes this biggest fight in recent years in the heavyweight division, but Fury doesn't want to look at Usyk and just totally ignore him. But still though, Usyk goes to the motions, or maybe Fury is really scared and doesn't have the guts to look at Usyk eye to eye?

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Quote from: JollyGood on May 17, 2024, 10:57:21 AM

Two heavyweight champions at the weight-in was supposed to be seriousThe weight-in was hilarious, it has to be one of the funniest ones I have ever seen. At one point Fury decided to completely ignore Usyk instead of having a genuine face-off, it was really funny to watch.

While Fury was playing mind games, Usyk did not want to take his eyes away from Fury but Fury had other plans. When interviewed afterwards, Fury joked he did not look at Usyk because he was a "scary looking dude" Grin

All jokes aside, Usyk looks focused and believes he will win the fight tomorrow, just one look at him you can see he means business and he is determined. The same for Fury, he is playing the jokes and mind games but he looks confident he will win the fight, he also is just as determined. Not long to go now.

Right, when we have seen recently about fighters having a long stare-down of 3-4 minutes and I thought this will be the new trend obviously you wanted to look at your opponents eye and try to intimidate him somewhat and read what's on his mind.

Now comes this biggest fight in recent years in the heavyweight division, but Fury doesn't want to look at Usyk and just totally ignore him. But still though, Usyk goes to the motions, or maybe Fury is really scared and doesn't have the guts to look at Usyk eye to eye?

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Two heavyweight champions at the weight-in was supposed to be seriousThe weight-in was hilarious, it has to be one of the funniest ones I have ever seen. At one point Fury decided to completely ignore Usyk instead of having a genuine face-off, it was really funny to watch.

While Fury was playing mind games, Usyk did not want to take his eyes away from Fury but Fury had other plans. When interviewed afterwards, Fury joked he did not look at Usyk because he was a "scary looking dude" Grin

All jokes aside, Usyk looks focused and believes he will win the fight tomorrow, just one look at him you can see he means business and he is determined. The same for Fury, he is playing the jokes and mind games but he looks confident he will win the fight, he also is just as determined. Not long to go now.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on May 17, 2024, 02:49:59 AM

I can not say that I a huge boxing expert, but I notice that Usyks weak spot are body shots. Dubois landed a clear shot (imho it was clean), Briedis gave him a hard fight with body punches when he was in cruiserweight, and in amateur career Beterbiev found that weak spot also. But Fury, as a really huge guy and heavy hitter, going to cause lots of troubles if he even land a punch to the block. Usyks feature is landing lots of punches, long combos and a win by points. Amazingly, but Fury can do the same and in high tempo. I expect Fury to win by TKO.

I think everyone is vulnerable to a body shot, specially if you are hit on that sweet spot. But there is a video of Dubois landing that questionable body shot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssVX2FQdMiw

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P.S. However, I notice in media, that they already agreed for a rematch. Does it means the fight will be fixed and we get a draw ? Cheesy

Nah, a lot of pride in the line, I don't think that anyone will give someone inch of advantage and make the judges score it a draw. There will be someone to be declared a winner in this highly anticipated fight and for the unification in this division.

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Quote from: Inwestour on May 17, 2024, 03:02:16 AM

Fury's last fight with Ngannou showed that Fury was not in very good shape at that time, let's see how he prepared for this fight. Usyk most likely won’t allow a scuffle with him, the fight will be measured and perhaps more cautious, but Fury loves dirty tricks, we’ll see.

You can say that Fury was unprepared against Francis, but you cannot predict his performance in this fight based on that fight. Against Usyk, Fury will be well prepared, knowing that his opponent is not a first-time boxer and that the fight is a big chance to make history in one of the biggest rivalries. I like both fighters and still have not been able to settle on the one I like to win, so I will just be enjoying the fight because it will surely be entertaining.

Fury totally avoided the staredown during their last press conference, looking away from Usyk's eyes during the staredown. Fury said

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He must have avoided eye contact to maintain the confidence he has in his abilities.

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On the press conference and stare downs I saw a totally different Fury. Obvious that he did not take Ngannou seriously. There were no belts on the line, so why push hard yourself when you get paid anyway. This time it is different. Whoever wins will get all the belts. Anyway, I expect Fury to land a lot of body shots, and in the second half of the fight Usyk will brake. On one hand it is circling around your opponent and spam punches, other thing is that your huge opponent is able to do the same. On the paper I dont see Usyks advantages. If this was Olympic boxing or amateur, when they win by points, Usyk would win. In profs, where damage matters, Fury wins.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on May 17, 2024, 02:49:59 AM

I can not say that I a huge boxing expert, but I notice that Usyks weak spot are body shots. Dubois landed a clear shot (imho it was clean), Briedis gave him a hard fight with body punches when he was in cruiserweight, and in amateur career Beterbiev found that weak spot also. But Fury, as a really huge guy and heavy hitter, going to cause lots of troubles if he even land a punch to the block. Usyks feature is landing lots of punches, long combos and a win by points. Amazingly, but Fury can do the same and in high tempo. I expect Fury to win by TKO.

P.S. However, I notice in media, that they already agreed for a rematch. Does it means the fight will be fixed and we get a draw ? Cheesy

It's simple, they agreed on a rematch because they know whoever wins this fight, the rematch will bring even more money. Grin

Usik's advantage is that he is faster, but Fury has very strong punches, so Usik will dodge and wear Fury out, and if he does it well, Fury will not be able to knock him out. But I doubt that Usyk is strong enough to knock out Fury, so maybe we’ll see a draw.

Fury's last fight with Ngannou showed that Fury was not in very good shape at that time, let's see how he prepared for this fight. Usyk most likely won’t allow a scuffle with him, the fight will be measured and perhaps more cautious, but Fury loves dirty tricks, we’ll see.

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I can not say that I a huge boxing expert, but I notice that Usyks weak spot are body shots. Dubois landed a clear shot (imho it was clean), Briedis gave him a hard fight with body punches when he was in cruiserweight, and in amateur career Beterbiev found that weak spot also. But Fury, as a really huge guy and heavy hitter, going to cause lots of troubles if he even land a punch to the block. Usyks feature is landing lots of punches, long combos and a win by points. Amazingly, but Fury can do the same and in high tempo. I expect Fury to win by TKO.

P.S. However, I notice in media, that they already agreed for a rematch. Does it means the fight will be fixed and we get a draw ? Cheesy

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Quote from: hilariousetc on May 16, 2024, 05:31:36 PM

Both the open workouts and the press conference today were pretty boring. Tyson choose not to even look at Usyk during the face off today. Not sure why as that's usually seen as sign of weakness.

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It is just me or Fury looks slim in this fight? Or maybe he just shave his beard that's why he look slim?

Tyson Fury definitely looks trim in his training photos that were released recently and he looked both focused and determined but if he stands any chance to beat a fully fit Usyk he will have to be at his 100% best because nothing else will do. Also, I think the same applies to Usyk too because if he stands any chance of beating a fully fit Fury he will have to be at his 100% best.

If both are 100% at their best it might have to be settled by the scorecard judges.

He's lost a lot of weight for sure, but I don't know whether that's the right plan for him. He should try use that extra weight to his advantage by weighing down Usyk in the clinch, unless he's burnt it off doing cardio trying to get his stamina up which he will need as Usyk can go the full distance with ease and even ups the pace throwing more punches in the last rounds.

Quote from: JollyGood on May 16, 2024, 06:33:58 AM

It was interesting to see the way Usyk reacted after the headbutting incident on a member of his team. He was literally focused on nothing except the fight and he does not like to get involved with trash-talking or creating a scene to attract attention on himself. I think both boxers are way beyond the psychological game stage, they just want to get in the ring and try to win.

Uysk and his team are consummate professionals and they do not react to all the shenanigans. Tyson now knows he can't get in Usyk's head so he's changed up his gameplan. He's also started hyping him up saying he going to be his hardest opponent and how much he respects him, but I only think he's saying this stuff cos if he loses it looks bad on him.

Perhaps though Tyson Fury that there might not be any clinch at all as Usyk is going to expect it. So he goes light try to used his feet more against a agile boxer, but it could backfire on him as obviously Usyk has more movement.

Or their plan will go to box Usyk and uses Fury's length and jab and hope that he can land that one big punch and then see how Usyk will react or how his chin is going to hold up against Fury's power if he landed that flush on the chin. And with that, I'm expecting more feints by Fury to see how Usyk will react.

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Both the open workouts and the press conference today were pretty boring. Tyson choose not to even look at Usyk during the face off today. Not sure why as that's usually seen as sign of weakness.

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Quote from: Yaunfitda on May 15, 2024, 07:14:15 AM

It is just me or Fury looks slim in this fight? Or maybe he just shave his beard that's why he look slim?

Tyson Fury definitely looks trim in his training photos that were released recently and he looked both focused and determined but if he stands any chance to beat a fully fit Usyk he will have to be at his 100% best because nothing else will do. Also, I think the same applies to Usyk too because if he stands any chance of beating a fully fit Fury he will have to be at his 100% best.

If both are 100% at their best it might have to be settled by the scorecard judges.

He's lost a lot of weight for sure, but I don't know whether that's the right plan for him. He should try use that extra weight to his advantage by weighing down Usyk in the clinch, unless he's burnt it off doing cardio trying to get his stamina up which he will need as Usyk can go the full distance with ease and even ups the pace throwing more punches in the last rounds.

Quote from: JollyGood on May 16, 2024, 06:33:58 AM

It was interesting to see the way Usyk reacted after the headbutting incident on a member of his team. He was literally focused on nothing except the fight and he does not like to get involved with trash-talking or creating a scene to attract attention on himself. I think both boxers are way beyond the psychological game stage, they just want to get in the ring and try to win.

Uysk and his team are consummate professionals and they do not react to all the shenanigans. Tyson now knows he can't get in Usyk's head so he's changed up his gameplan. He's also started hyping him up saying he going to be his hardest opponent and how much he respects him, but I only think he's saying this stuff cos if he loses it looks bad on him.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on May 16, 2024, 05:46:47 AM

I think that does not work for heavyweights. It is in more light division age matter a lot, since you lose in speed. When heavyweights rely more on he power. They do not throw thousands of strikes during the fight. I might say, that heavyweights are like wine, with time they only get better. Undoubtedly age matter, but for example Holyfield fought till 49 yo and won some belts when being 40+.

Well there was Holyfield as you mentioned and also there was one of the greatest boxers that also made a comeback and reigned for a long time too, it was George Foreman. Maybe the age factor will be irrelevant when Fury and Usyk meet in the ring.

Quote from: Yaunfitda on May 16, 2024, 05:50:04 AM

I do agree, Usyk should be very well prepared in this fight at 100% not just physically, but mentally as well as Fury is know to uses psyche war before the fight, like trash talking and what his father did.

It was interesting to see the way Usyk reacted after the headbutting incident on a member of his team. He was literally focused on nothing except the fight and he does not like to get involved with trash-talking or creating a scene to attract attention on himself. I think both boxers are way beyond the psychological game stage, they just want to get in the ring and try to win.

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Quote from: JollyGood on May 15, 2024, 05:22:31 PM

Quote from: Yaunfitda on May 15, 2024, 07:14:15 AM

It is just me or Fury looks slim in this fight? Or maybe he just shave his beard that's why he look slim?

Tyson Fury definitely looks trim in his training photos that were released recently and he looked both focused and determined but if he stands any chance to beat a fully fit Usyk he will have to be at his 100% best because nothing else will do. Also, I think the same applies to Usyk too because if he stands any chance of beating a fully fit Fury he will have to be at his 100% best.

If both are 100% at their best it might have to be settled by the scorecard judges.

Ok thanks, I thought I was the only who noticed how his face is somewhat very thin as compare to his fight with Ngannou. Maybe he lost some weight in this fight so that he can go and bounce and use his legs more for movement to counter Usyk. And with them, we shouldn't expect that much of a hugging from Fury and uses that strategy of putting all his weight on his opponents to tire them up. Fury is still the favorite in this fight, but it's just a very slim at 1.7x as compare to Usyk's, 1.90. I do agree, Usyk should be very well prepared in this fight at 100% not just physically, but mentally as well as Fury is know to uses psyche war before the fight, like trash talking and what his father did.

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Quote from: JollyGood on May 15, 2024, 05:22:31 PM

The problem (if it can be called that) for Usyk is he is now 37 whereas Fury is 35 and that might play a part when they enter the ring.

I think that does not work for heavyweights. It is in more light division age matter a lot, since you lose in speed. When heavyweights rely more on he power. They do not throw thousands of strikes during the fight. I might say, that heavyweights are like wine, with time they only get better. Undoubtedly age matter, but for example Holyfield fought till 49 yo and won some belts when being 40+.

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Quote from: Yaunfitda on May 15, 2024, 07:14:15 AM

It is just me or Fury looks slim in this fight? Or maybe he just shave his beard that's why he look slim?

Tyson Fury definitely looks trim in his training photos that were released recently and he looked both focused and determined but if he stands any chance to beat a fully fit Usyk he will have to be at his 100% best because nothing else will do. Also, I think the same applies to Usyk too because if he stands any chance of beating a fully fit Fury he will have to be at his 100% best.

If both are 100% at their best it might have to be settled by the scorecard judges.

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on May 15, 2024, 01:25:08 PM

Not long now, really looking forward to this. Can Tyson Fury back up his loud mouth or will Usyk be crowned the greatest heavyweight in the world.

I really don’t know what to think about this one. As a British guy I should want Fury to win but part of me is rooting for Usyk. I love his attitude and fighting style against mostly bigger men. He is small for a heavyweight but he more than makes up for it. The way he dismantled Anthony Joshua twice was impressive.

Without a doubt Usyk taught Joshua a boxing lesson by showing him how technically superior he was when he defeated him twice. The problem (if it can be called that) for Usyk is he is now 37 whereas Fury is 35 and that might play a part when they enter the ring.

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Quote from: Yaunfitda on May 15, 2024, 07:14:15 AM

It is just me or Fury looks slim in this fight? Or maybe he just shave his beard that's why he look slim? But I agree with @ JollyGood, this is just an embarrassed and the Fury looks the villain here and they are the street thugs and then Usyk and his flag becoming the hero. Most of the time this kind of antics could really backfire on some boxers as they go out of the box just to promote the fight. It's one thing to trash talk the other camp to hype and promote it, but physically assaulting a part of the other team is not good in the eyes of most boxing fans, specially the high level of this fight.

Yeah, he looks kind of smaller than usual, and not sure if it's a good thing or not. On the one hand, massive size advantage could work in his favour, on the other, losing extra pounds means he should be much faster while still having the reach advantage. But Usyk will be superior when it comes to technique and speed anyway, so getting too slim could not be a great idea for Tyson.

As for John, I think there's a massive overreaction to what he did. He made a mistake and apologised, so not much more to discuss. Have we really got so feminised and domesticated that we're going to freak out over a little unplanned violence?

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Not long now, really looking forward to this. Can Tyson Fury back up his loud mouth or will Usyk be crowned the greatest heavyweight in the world.

I really don’t know what to think about this one. As a British guy I should want Fury to win but part of me is rooting for Usyk. I love his attitude and fighting style against mostly bigger men. He is small for a heavyweight but he more than makes up for it. The way he dismantled Anthony Joshua twice was impressive.

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It is just me or Fury looks slim in this fight? Or maybe he just shave his beard that's why he look slim? But I agree with @ JollyGood, this is just an embarrassed and the Fury looks the villain here and they are the street thugs and then Usyk and his flag becoming the hero. Most of the time this kind of antics could really backfire on some boxers as they go out of the box just to promote the fight. It's one thing to trash talk the other camp to hype and promote it, but physically assaulting a part of the other team is not good in the eyes of most boxing fans, specially the high level of this fight.

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No matter how much he tried to pass it off as a joke/banter, I think Tyson Fury must be embarrassed by what his father John Fury did.

I am glad we are now just three days away from the fight. First they could not agree terms. Then, they agreed to fight but Fury got injured. Now they are actually getting in the ring for this anticipated history making fight and they have a two-fight clause therefore you have to expect they will challenge each other at least twice.

Back to the fight itself, if it ends in a draw clearly there will be a rematch. Also, if there is a winner, the loser will definitely trigger the rematch. The fight record of both Fury and Usyk makes this a really intriguing fight:

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This is not the first time John Fury cant control his anger. Remember how furious he was when his other kid fought Jake Paul ? Or the time he attacked glass at at Tommy Fury vs KSI ? He has serious problems with anger management. It is commendable when parent protect their kids against any thread, but this time, both of his kids can take care of themselves Grin

He looks like a crazy angry drunk to me.

Have you seen Fury on crutches in the lobby in few days before the fight? What is this? A new soil for excuse ?

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Most of the time, Bellew does speak a lot of sense and that tweet was interesting.

He made it clear before the first Usyk vs Joshua fight that Usyk would win and he was confident about it after he himself was beaten by Usyk when they met as cruiserweights. Bellew suffered a knockout in round 8 and was on his way to winning the fight because he was ahead on the judges scorecards, that was until the end of the 6th round when he received powerful shots from Usyk before the bell.

After that, Usyk took over the fight and ended up winning but Bellew knew he was up against a technical genius in Usyk that was why he knew he would beat Joshua (twice) and he believes it will be close between Fury and Usyk but according to him Usyk will win.

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