Topic: [POLL] Using AI to predict outcomes - page 19. (Read 10042 times)

Quote from: Mahanton on June 01, 2023, 03:42:08 PM

AI will become more sophisticated than now, so it will help us get more accurate information from the data we get. But we still can't leave the decision to AI because we must decide which one we choose based on all the data we have collected. Perhaps, for now, it's still strange if some people use AI in a way that AI hasn't progressed too well. We should wait until the time comes to see what will happen to the AI that can help us in our gambles.

as the days go by, there will certainly always be technological improvements, and one of them, AI will always be developed with adoption to get very accurate results, even if only 90%. however, in this adoption we should not rely on predictions or anything that has been displayed by AI because everything is still inaccurate and still has 10% error even though it has been developed to be more accurate.
so it would be better if AI was only used as a second option to consider or strengthen our predictions for betting.

And just the same, even it's 99% the remaining percentage can still bring you to lose your bet, remember it's gambling and there are many things that will influence the potential outcome, I see the point where it can be developed and it can find more information but the accuracy especially when dealing in gambling, it's something that only luck can accurately dictate your winning chance.

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Quote from: Lucasgabd on June 01, 2023, 09:43:58 AM

Well, the thing is that an AI will be able to calculate those odds with way more precision than any human could ever do.

The key is to be able to find a way to make that process profitable, because most of the time the casinos will have their odds in their favor.

Undoubtedly, AI is a super fast computer that can calculate all the opportunities that exist quickly compared if we search for ourselves. And if we can use it to our advantage, we will surely have a chance to win. But the casinos will still get the biggest advantage because there won't be many who will use AI and only certain gamblers.

Quote from: Lucasgabd on June 01, 2023, 09:43:58 AM

Bare in mind that AI is really just making out that kind of response basing on whats been put up into their library.Yes, it might be that getting sophisticated on the time comes but this isnt something that would really be able to deal up with something that speculative which is something that AI cant really be able to predict out.They could give out some various information but those would be basing up with facts and something that had already happened. For knowing information then it would really be that relevant but asking about on things which are still happening in the future or something that talks about gambling then it isnt really something that you could really rely on. I dont know if there are people who are making use of AI on predicting games.
Nothing beats out if you are the ones who do make out searches and make out those analysis out of those things and would be something considerable than on relying with AI.

AI will become more sophisticated than now, so it will help us get more accurate information from the data we get. But we still can't leave the decision to AI because we must decide which one we choose based on all the data we have collected. Perhaps, for now, it's still strange if some people use AI in a way that AI hasn't progressed too well. We should wait until the time comes to see what will happen to the AI that can help us in our gambles.

the interesting thing is that the day we won't be able to identify if a text was written by and AI or not, or if an image was generated by AI or not, is not so far away
exponential techonologies are awesome (and can be dangerous sometimes)

the future will be really interesting to watch and participate.

Innovation and changes is really that something inevitable but its true that it does really impose such risks and con's if it was been used on the other way around but in overall it would really be that something beneficial.There are really just that people who are really that skeptical on things on what would be the possible risks that lies ahead about AI but for now its better not to mind it off and would be focusing
about into its benefits rather than into that imposed risks.Just like on what others been saying about using it up on predicting outcomes then it would really be just that common sense that AI isnt something
that would really be good at it or would be making 100% precise predictions basing up on a certain sport or fight or whatsoever. They might be that good when it comes to information gathering
basing up into its library and would be basing into those information on which it could be able to formulate one if it wanted or been asked.

what do you think of the current talks about AI regulation by governments? do you think governments will be able to adapt fast enough?

and possible risks for humanity? too much alarm or real risk?

really curious about these questions
I don't really have answers, more like guesses

the way for me seems like we should join the machines, not fight them.

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the interesting thing is that the day we won't be able to identify if a text was written by and AI or not, or if an image was generated by AI or not, is not so far away
exponential techonologies are awesome (and can be dangerous sometimes)

the future will be really interesting to watch and participate.

Maybe later, we will need a scanner to determine whether it is from AI or humans, and I'm sure it will be in the future. I don't know. It's still beyond what I can imagine.

The future will be very interesting, especially if we participate and use it. It will be like a challenge for us. So let's see what the future looks like, and hopefully, we can all keep up with it.

Quote from: len01 on June 01, 2023, 03:34:36 PM

as the days go by, there will certainly always be technological improvements, and one of them, AI will always be developed with adoption to get very accurate results, even if only 90%. however, in this adoption we should not rely on predictions or anything that has been displayed by AI because everything is still inaccurate and still has 10% error even though it has been developed to be more accurate.
so it would be better if AI was only used as a second option to consider or strengthen our predictions for betting.

Yes, it is. The latest technology will always be released, and the presence of AI will really be able to help humans in various activities and not just for gambling. And gambling using AI in collecting data may become more accurate along with the development of technology for AI. And I agree that it's better for us to rely on ourselves to make decisions and not to leave those decisions to AI. Even though we can get more and more accurate data and AI can provide a winning percentage from one game, we still have to analyze it to find out why we make that bet.

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Quote from: OgNasty on December 08, 2022, 11:11:37 PM

ChatGPT is all the rage at the moment. I’ve seen that people are asking it to predict sporting events. Would you leave gambling decisions up to artificial intelligence? Do you see any potential drawbacks for outsourcing your bets to a software program? Has anyone here tried this yet? Do we need someone to put together a thread of ChatGPT predictions to see how accurate they are? Any other thoughts?

too risky to leave our betting decisions to artificial intelligence imo, then I won't do it.
Just imagine, is it possible for ChatGPT to accurately and precisely predict yesterday's match in the European Cup final match between Sevilla vs Roma, I'm sure everyone must answer it's impossible.

it is not easy to be able to get accurate predictions, the data collected alone will not be 100% correct because soccer betting is still dominated by luck.

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Quote from: Lucasgabd on June 01, 2023, 09:43:58 AM

Well, the thing is that an AI will be able to calculate those odds with way more precision than any human could ever do.

The key is to be able to find a way to make that process profitable, because most of the time the casinos will have their odds in their favor.

Undoubtedly, AI is a super fast computer that can calculate all the opportunities that exist quickly compared if we search for ourselves. And if we can use it to our advantage, we will surely have a chance to win. But the casinos will still get the biggest advantage because there won't be many who will use AI and only certain gamblers.

Bare in mind that AI is really just making out that kind of response basing on whats been put up into their library.Yes, it might be that getting sophisticated on the time comes but this isnt something that would really be able to deal up with something that speculative which is something that AI cant really be able to predict out.They could give out some various information but those would be basing up with facts and something that had already happened. For knowing information then it would really be that relevant but asking about on things which are still happening in the future or something that talks about gambling then it isnt really something that you could really rely on. I dont know if there are people who are making use of AI on predicting games.
Nothing beats out if you are the ones who do make out searches and make out those analysis out of those things and would be something considerable than on relying with AI.

AI will become more sophisticated than now, so it will help us get more accurate information from the data we get. But we still can't leave the decision to AI because we must decide which one we choose based on all the data we have collected. Perhaps, for now, it's still strange if some people use AI in a way that AI hasn't progressed too well. We should wait until the time comes to see what will happen to the AI that can help us in our gambles.

the interesting thing is that the day we won't be able to identify if a text was written by and AI or not, or if an image was generated by AI or not, is not so far away
exponential techonologies are awesome (and can be dangerous sometimes)

the future will be really interesting to watch and participate.

Innovation and changes is really that something inevitable but its true that it does really impose such risks and con's if it was been used on the other way around but in overall it would really be that something beneficial.There are really just that people who are really that skeptical on things on what would be the possible risks that lies ahead about AI but for now its better not to mind it off and would be focusing
about into its benefits rather than into that imposed risks.Just like on what others been saying about using it up on predicting outcomes then it would really be just that common sense that AI isnt something
that would really be good at it or would be making 100% precise predictions basing up on a certain sport or fight or whatsoever. They might be that good when it comes to information gathering
basing up into its library and would be basing into those information on which it could be able to formulate one if it wanted or been asked.

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AI will become more sophisticated than now, so it will help us get more accurate information from the data we get. But we still can't leave the decision to AI because we must decide which one we choose based on all the data we have collected. Perhaps, for now, it's still strange if some people use AI in a way that AI hasn't progressed too well. We should wait until the time comes to see what will happen to the AI that can help us in our gambles.

as the days go by, there will certainly always be technological improvements, and one of them, AI will always be developed with adoption to get very accurate results, even if only 90%. however, in this adoption we should not rely on predictions or anything that has been displayed by AI because everything is still inaccurate and still has 10% error even though it has been developed to be more accurate.
so it would be better if AI was only used as a second option to consider or strengthen our predictions for betting.

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Well, the thing is that an AI will be able to calculate those odds with way more precision than any human could ever do.

The key is to be able to find a way to make that process profitable, because most of the time the casinos will have their odds in their favor.

Undoubtedly, AI is a super fast computer that can calculate all the opportunities that exist quickly compared if we search for ourselves. And if we can use it to our advantage, we will surely have a chance to win. But the casinos will still get the biggest advantage because there won't be many who will use AI and only certain gamblers.

Bare in mind that AI is really just making out that kind of response basing on whats been put up into their library.Yes, it might be that getting sophisticated on the time comes but this isnt something that would really be able to deal up with something that speculative which is something that AI cant really be able to predict out.They could give out some various information but those would be basing up with facts and something that had already happened. For knowing information then it would really be that relevant but asking about on things which are still happening in the future or something that talks about gambling then it isnt really something that you could really rely on. I dont know if there are people who are making use of AI on predicting games.
Nothing beats out if you are the ones who do make out searches and make out those analysis out of those things and would be something considerable than on relying with AI.

AI will become more sophisticated than now, so it will help us get more accurate information from the data we get. But we still can't leave the decision to AI because we must decide which one we choose based on all the data we have collected. Perhaps, for now, it's still strange if some people use AI in a way that AI hasn't progressed too well. We should wait until the time comes to see what will happen to the AI that can help us in our gambles.

the interesting thing is that the day we won't be able to identify if a text was written by and AI or not, or if an image was generated by AI or not, is not so far away
exponential techonologies are awesome (and can be dangerous sometimes)

the future will be really interesting to watch and participate.

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Well, the thing is that an AI will be able to calculate those odds with way more precision than any human could ever do.

The key is to be able to find a way to make that process profitable, because most of the time the casinos will have their odds in their favor.

Undoubtedly, AI is a super fast computer that can calculate all the opportunities that exist quickly compared if we search for ourselves. And if we can use it to our advantage, we will surely have a chance to win. But the casinos will still get the biggest advantage because there won't be many who will use AI and only certain gamblers.

Quote from: maydna on May 31, 2023, 06:14:31 AM

Bare in mind that AI is really just making out that kind of response basing on whats been put up into their library.Yes, it might be that getting sophisticated on the time comes but this isnt something that would really be able to deal up with something that speculative which is something that AI cant really be able to predict out.They could give out some various information but those would be basing up with facts and something that had already happened. For knowing information then it would really be that relevant but asking about on things which are still happening in the future or something that talks about gambling then it isnt really something that you could really rely on. I dont know if there are people who are making use of AI on predicting games.
Nothing beats out if you are the ones who do make out searches and make out those analysis out of those things and would be something considerable than on relying with AI.

AI will become more sophisticated than now, so it will help us get more accurate information from the data we get. But we still can't leave the decision to AI because we must decide which one we choose based on all the data we have collected. Perhaps, for now, it's still strange if some people use AI in a way that AI hasn't progressed too well. We should wait until the time comes to see what will happen to the AI that can help us in our gambles.

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Quote from: wxa7115 on May 29, 2023, 10:14:07 PM

Quote from: maydna on May 31, 2023, 06:14:31 AM

Unfortunately those sources are not to be trusted either, while it is very difficult for a news agency to remain impartial and neutral, the truth is that most of them do not even try anymore and everything they report has a very strong bias, and this has caused people to stop trusting them.

Now this is sooner or later going to create a huge problem of trust among the whole society as now we cannot even trust our eyes as everything that we see could be manipulated with the use of AI, a scenario similar to the one depicted on the novel 1984.

Perhaps, that's what triggers some countries to want to regulate the use of AI because of misinformation about the news they want to find. And this makes many developers continue to work hard to improve AI to provide more valid information and not provide wrong information to users. And we as users have to be more careful in using AI, and we also have to have more sources that can provide additional information about the news we are looking for. Before we use AI to predict the results, we must compare the information obtained by AI with the information we get to know whether the information is valid or have to look for additional information.

Personally I have never been a fan when it comes to forbidding a particular technology as people will always find a way around it, but on the case of deepfakes this may be the only solution, even an image which has been edited can still be proven to be false by experts with the right technology.

But I really think we may get to the point in which deepfakes may get so realistic that no one will be able to distinguish them, and this could increase the sense of chaos people feel as they will not know what to believe anymore.

So we have to be really careful when getting info from anywhere because even if the info looks reliable and comes from a trusted source, that doesn't guarantee it can provide valid info. And while AI has not been fully used or is still in development, we can learn more to distinguish between real and fake so we won't be fooled. At the very least, we prevent the fake evidence we find. And to predict a match, we also have to find the info because even though we have used AI to make it easier to search, we also have always to check it so there are no mistakes in predicting or knowing what percentage chance we have to win.

Bare in mind that AI is really just making out that kind of response basing on whats been put up into their library.Yes, it might be that getting sophisticated on the time comes but this isnt something that would

really be able to deal up with something that speculative which is something that AI cant really be able to predict out.They could give out some various information but those would be basing up with facts
and something that had already happened. For knowing information then it would really be that relevant but asking about on things which are still happening in the future or something that
talks about gambling then it isnt really something that you could really rely on. I dont know if there are people who are making use of AI on predicting games.
Nothing beats out if you are the ones who do make out searches and make out those analysis out of those things and would be something considerable than on relying with AI.

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So we have to be really careful when getting info from anywhere because even if the info looks reliable and comes from a trusted source, that doesn't guarantee it can provide valid info. And while AI has not been fully used or is still in development, we can learn more to distinguish between real and fake so we won't be fooled. At the very least, we prevent the fake evidence we find. And to predict a match, we also have to find the info because even though we have used AI to make it easier to search, we also have always to check it so there are no mistakes in predicting or knowing what percentage chance we have to win.

Well, the thing is that an AI will be able to calculate those odds with way more precision than any human could ever do.

The key is to be able to find a way to make that process profitable, because most of the time the casinos will have their odds in their favor.

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Quote from: wxa7115 on May 29, 2023, 10:14:07 PM

Quote from: Lucasgabd on May 30, 2023, 11:42:14 AM

Unfortunately those sources are not to be trusted either, while it is very difficult for a news agency to remain impartial and neutral, the truth is that most of them do not even try anymore and everything they report has a very strong bias, and this has caused people to stop trusting them.

Now this is sooner or later going to create a huge problem of trust among the whole society as now we cannot even trust our eyes as everything that we see could be manipulated with the use of AI, a scenario similar to the one depicted on the novel 1984.

Perhaps, that's what triggers some countries to want to regulate the use of AI because of misinformation about the news they want to find. And this makes many developers continue to work hard to improve AI to provide more valid information and not provide wrong information to users. And we as users have to be more careful in using AI, and we also have to have more sources that can provide additional information about the news we are looking for. Before we use AI to predict the results, we must compare the information obtained by AI with the information we get to know whether the information is valid or have to look for additional information.

Personally I have never been a fan when it comes to forbidding a particular technology as people will always find a way around it, but on the case of deepfakes this may be the only solution, even an image which has been edited can still be proven to be false by experts with the right technology.

But I really think we may get to the point in which deepfakes may get so realistic that no one will be able to distinguish them, and this could increase the sense of chaos people feel as they will not know what to believe anymore.

So we have to be really careful when getting info from anywhere because even if the info looks reliable and comes from a trusted source, that doesn't guarantee it can provide valid info. And while AI has not been fully used or is still in development, we can learn more to distinguish between real and fake so we won't be fooled. At the very least, we prevent the fake evidence we find. And to predict a match, we also have to find the info because even though we have used AI to make it easier to search, we also have always to check it so there are no mistakes in predicting or knowing what percentage chance we have to win.

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I think this is already happening
for me seems like the way to go with deepfakes is not trying to prove what is real or false but teaching people to have critical thinking (hard, specially in poorer countries) and also use crypto/blockchain as means to verify veracity of information

probably the best ways

It's a tricky situation where we are at the moment.

Fake images generated by a computer that look no different than a real one are already out there.

That means that all the emotions that a photo can generate can be created on the fly to create whatever emotion you want.

And also videos are starting to become very close to real.

I don't think the general population has critical thinking.

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Quote from: wxa7115 on May 29, 2023, 10:14:07 PM

Quote from: Aikidoka on May 27, 2023, 09:44:15 AM

Unfortunately those sources are not to be trusted either, while it is very difficult for a news agency to remain impartial and neutral, the truth is that most of them do not even try anymore and everything they report has a very strong bias, and this has caused people to stop trusting them.

Now this is sooner or later going to create a huge problem of trust among the whole society as now we cannot even trust our eyes as everything that we see could be manipulated with the use of AI, a scenario similar to the one depicted on the novel 1984.

Perhaps, that's what triggers some countries to want to regulate the use of AI because of misinformation about the news they want to find. And this makes many developers continue to work hard to improve AI to provide more valid information and not provide wrong information to users. And we as users have to be more careful in using AI, and we also have to have more sources that can provide additional information about the news we are looking for. Before we use AI to predict the results, we must compare the information obtained by AI with the information we get to know whether the information is valid or have to look for additional information.

Personally I have never been a fan when it comes to forbidding a particular technology as people will always find a way around it, but on the case of deepfakes this may be the only solution, even an image which has been edited can still be proven to be false by experts with the right technology.

But I really think we may get to the point in which deepfakes may get so realistic that no one will be able to distinguish them, and this could increase the sense of chaos people feel as they will not know what to believe anymore.

I think this is already happening
for me seems like the way to go with deepfakes is not trying to prove what is real or false but teaching people to have critical thinking (hard, specially in poorer countries) and also use crypto/blockchain as means to verify veracity of information

probably the best ways

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Quote from: OgNasty on December 08, 2022, 11:11:37 PM

ChatGPT is all the rage at the moment. I’ve seen that people are asking it to predict sporting events. Would you leave gambling decisions up to artificial intelligence? Do you see any potential drawbacks for outsourcing your bets to a software program? Has anyone here tried this yet? Do we need someone to put together a thread of ChatGPT predictions to see how accurate they are? Any other thoughts?

ChatGPT won't be of a huge assistance when it comes to gambling since it's an AI that provides predictions based on the information it has access to. It could be that AI predictions can be accurate at times but they do not guarantee 100% accuracy for your bets. I would not recommend relying totally on artificial intelligence for making gambling decisions. However, it can be beneficial to receive predictions from AI as an additional tool to help you in making your own betting choices.

It can provide logical predictions that are helpful, but it's important to remember that real-life results can vary depending on the specific games you're betting on. Anyway, I just voted "NO".

Like most people here, but I don't understand why. Why not try something new? Make the smallest bets possible, and if you are not satisfied with the results, drop it. But what if you'll see that the predictions are more accurate than yours? Will you still be ignoring it? I mean, you might, if relying on AI isn't entertaining for you and your goal is to gamble for fun(which is the right goal imo), but for me it will be the other way round. Even if the AI predictions will be, on average, worse than mine, I will be still using AI from time to time, because it's fun for me.

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