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Quote from: OgNasty on December 08, 2022, 11:11:37 PM

ChatGPT is all the rage at the moment. I’ve seen that people are asking it to predict sporting events. Would you leave gambling decisions up to artificial intelligence? Do you see any potential drawbacks for outsourcing your bets to a software program? Has anyone here tried this yet? Do we need someone to put together a thread of ChatGPT predictions to see how accurate they are? Any other thoughts?

In fact, ChatGPT is still an ongoing experimental project. even so, even at this point it can actually provide practical benefits for humans, and it all depends on how we use it. however, if we refer to your post. how could that be, when people ask him to predict sporting events. the question is, not that I would leave betting decisions to artificial intelligence. but how accurate are the predictions issued by artificial intelligence, if only for entertainment purposes. maybe I can understand it, but if this is used as a betting reference, will it not be fatal.

The problem is, if only this intelligence prediction was 100% accurate, I don't imagine that platforms casinos or providing sportbook services will suffer losses. after all, I wouldn't consider this a serious prediction.

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Quote from: OgNasty on December 08, 2022, 11:11:37 PM

ChatGPT is all the rage at the moment. I’ve seen that people are asking it to predict sporting events. Would you leave gambling decisions up to artificial intelligence? Do you see any potential drawbacks for outsourcing your bets to a software program? Has anyone here tried this yet? Do we need someone to put together a thread of ChatGPT predictions to see how accurate they are? Any other thoughts?

i don't know what to say here. Open AI is a good thing for other small things like answers to complicated things, but for it to make decisions and predictions for gambling is not what i would have expected.
It has some limitations with what it can do and how much knowledge it has over something. Asking it to predict something, but might not have the answer for that because of the data stored in it. It will search the internet for your answer. Now i am curious to see what other people have done with it, or is it really that much useful in the case of prediction?

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Quote from: panganib999 on December 21, 2022, 01:57:41 PM

I would just bank on my previous post regarding my statement where I said I would use AI if it does get mature. Thing is, AI matures when more prompts and info is fed to it. So if people want AI to be useful to them, it is imperative that we use AI for things like these, so it can have time to be good at what we want it to be good at. Otherwise ChatGPT will just become a nifty tool we use for some activities and will not become the google killer some AI visionaries hoped it could be.

Really hard to believe that it would kill up and replace Google if we do speak about those probabilities but well if those AI visionaries does really have that kind of expectation and hopes but it is really likely to happen.

Throwing up things for it to get mature? Yes, it could really be having on that way but it is really still that unreliable on making it as a main thing for you to rely when making up some bets or simply gambling.

Just like been said by others that there would really be some factors which would really be affecting on each possible recommendation or
or given bets which cant really be that reliable.

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I would just bank on my previous post regarding my statement where I said I would use AI if it does get mature. Thing is, AI matures when more prompts and info is fed to it. So if people want AI to be useful to them, it is imperative that we use AI for things like these, so it can have time to be good at what we want it to be good at. Otherwise ChatGPT will just become a nifty tool we use for some activities and will not become the google killer some AI visionaries hoped it could be.

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I think that bookmakers are already using various kinds of AI when placing quotes and maybe even when analyzing sports events (here AI is used to analyze big data). Naturally, these are not the AIs that are discussed in the first post.
In general, I believe that the use of AI by the better is realistic, since only AI can very quickly analyze and place bets, for example, in 100-150 interconnected events in order to find arbitrage situations. But the one who can create such a system most likely will not be interested in such a trifle as betting.

It is true that it is unlikely that someone which could do something like what you describe could be interested in gambling at all, but there have been similar cases in the past before.

Edward Thorp is widely considered to be the father of card counting and he won money playing blackjack and selling books about it, however that was peanuts to him, he used his knowledge to create hedge funds which gave him and whoever that invested with him massive profits in the markets, so I would not discard the possibility of someone using AI to gain money with gambling and then switch to the stock market just as Thorp did.

Doesnt matter on what method or ways you would be doing which as long it does give out some benefit into you then you would be surely be sticking into that which is something that a very normal action to be made by someone but in speaking on using some AI with your sports betting bets then i wouldnt really be recommending it.There are lots of things which an AI couldn't able to do so on which it is really still much ideal
if you do still rely with your own analysis rather than on making yourself relying into an AI which is something that is made by human too.There's no more than superior
that being a human, there might be some good automation and giving off some faster results but thats not something which is worth to rely on.

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Quote from: KTChampions on December 11, 2022, 12:33:20 PM

I think that bookmakers are already using various kinds of AI when placing quotes and maybe even when analyzing sports events (here AI is used to analyze big data). Naturally, these are not the AIs that are discussed in the first post.
In general, I believe that the use of AI by the better is realistic, since only AI can very quickly analyze and place bets, for example, in 100-150 interconnected events in order to find arbitrage situations. But the one who can create such a system most likely will not be interested in such a trifle as betting.

It is true that it is unlikely that someone which could do something like what you describe could be interested in gambling at all, but there have been similar cases in the past before.

Edward Thorp is widely considered to be the father of card counting and he won money playing blackjack and selling books about it, however that was peanuts to him, he used his knowledge to create hedge funds which gave him and whoever that invested with him massive profits in the markets, so I would not discard the possibility of someone using AI to gain money with gambling and then switch to the stock market just as Thorp did.

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I think that bookmakers are already using various kinds of AI when placing quotes and maybe even when analyzing sports events (here AI is used to analyze big data). Naturally, these are not the AIs that are discussed in the first post.
In general, I believe that the use of AI by the better is realistic, since only AI can very quickly analyze and place bets, for example, in 100-150 interconnected events in order to find arbitrage situations. But the one who can create such a system most likely will not be interested in such a trifle as betting.

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Quote from: Yogee on December 11, 2022, 11:57:43 AM

Quote from: OgNasty on December 08, 2022, 11:11:37 PM

...Has anyone here tried this yet?

It's my first time learning about this so it goes without saying that I haven't tried it yet. I would definitely love to do a test run if subscription doesn't cost that much. It would be convenient for sportsbetting if it's going to save me a lot of time from researching or staying up do date with team and player's status.

It doesnt really need for some subscription or whatsoever yet you could directly make use of it after registering or some sort: https://chat.openai.com/auth/login
In speaking on using up an AI on a sports betting then i would say that its never been that ideal since they cant really know on what are the recent events or other
fundamentals which could really make a great effect on a certain match or game.This is why its never been that a recommendable if you do rely on it.
Plus it doesnt really make out some sense on how you would make yourself that enjoy when you are relying on something that it is out of your
own analysis.

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Quote from: OgNasty on December 08, 2022, 11:11:37 PM

...Has anyone here tried this yet?

It's my first time learning about this so it goes without saying that I haven't tried it yet. I would definitely love to do a test run if subscription doesn't cost that much. It would be convenient for sportsbetting if it's going to save me a lot of time from researching or staying up do date with team and player's status.

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It sounds really good when you say about this and indeed until now there are a lot of AI and they are equipped with some basic things so they can guess with the algorithm they have. but on the other hand I don't feel it will be good. I've tried this several times and the results turned out to be the same as what I did in terms of accuracy so I really stopped doing that and I personally actually prefer to do it myself instead of using help like this which even though they look good but they are still is a machine that there will definitely be some mistakes there and I don't want to put my bet on something like this because I have more confidence in myself.

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Quote from: darewaller on December 10, 2022, 02:22:40 PM

Quote from: ethereumhunter on December 09, 2022, 10:02:27 AM

Even though ChatGPT is popular, I would not give the decision to artificial intelligence. I better use my way of analyzing the team and choosing the team. Besides, I don't know if it's a good decision to use it or if it won't work well.

After all, this artificial intelligence still needs to be developed even better and while this artificial intelligence, we can still use the method as usual.

Well, you have to understand that AI has been developed a lot these days and it's not just about data but these scripts take into account all the information like where the event is going to be held and what are the past results, etc. I think such a technology will be very useful in e-sports betting because there a big margin or advantage is based on drafting. For example in dota2 you have to pick heroes and based on what you picked these AI bots can certainly tell us who has the upper hand and of course it still needs to be played out well.

Yes, technology like this can be useful for us, especially gamblers who have difficulty gathering important information before they place a bet. And this will depend on how smartly the artificial intelligence can find and present that information to us so that we can feel confident about the search results and the selection of teams with the potential to win. But before I can use AI, I will still wait for the development of this artificial intelligence while I may learn how to use it to support the use of that information.

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Quote from: OgNasty on December 08, 2022, 11:11:37 PM

ChatGPT is all the rage at the moment. I’ve seen that people are asking it to predict sporting events. Would you leave gambling decisions up to artificial intelligence? Do you see any potential drawbacks for outsourcing your bets to a software program? Has anyone here tried this yet? Do we need someone to put together a thread of ChatGPT predictions to see how accurate they are? Any other thoughts?

I just confusing and try;

So when I look that, we don't have to ask AI, because he won't know anything, he is just bot or robot where programmed by humans where have knowledge is not much different from us or maybe better from us. I'm also not sure AI can't control the world if still need human for programming the code. That ChatGPT also still searching the answer on internet where same with us when asking google.

So if people asking ChatGPT for betting, I think his brain is damaged.

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AI isn't necessary for the purpose of sports betting. My understanding the AI will make its selection based on the data it have grabbed from the different users. Just think of the scenario, Morocco vs Portugal. Majority favoured Portugal to win the match and the result came in the opposite way. The pick of AI based one will be the same. So, human prediction will be better than the AI based ones.

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Quote from: eaLiTy on December 10, 2022, 04:06:23 PM

Quote from: OgNasty on December 08, 2022, 11:11:37 PM

ChatGPT is all the rage at the moment. I’ve seen that people are asking it to predict sporting events. Would you leave gambling decisions up to artificial intelligence? Do you see any potential drawbacks for outsourcing your bets to a software program? Has anyone here tried this yet? Do we need someone to put together a thread of ChatGPT predictions to see how accurate they are? Any other thoughts?

I tried them already but it says that it is unable to provide sports prediction and only assist in providing general assist with general knowledge. May be they might add them later by collecting all the match statistics and then we can make an assumption on how the match might go, but it wont be never accurate as there are many factors in place for every match including the injury list and the current form.

Exactly, AI cannot provide any accurate assumptions on who's to win in any sports game whether they have all the previous matches data. Previous matches cannot predict what will happen in the latest matches as several factors changes in every match such as strategies, player's way of thinking and decision, and many more which could mess up the calculation to provide an assumption or probability of winning. At best, they can provide an assumption which is too risky to bet on or probably almost the same of what the odd providers are giving.

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No, I trust my instincts and knowledge. Statistics and probability is important but don't forget that bookmakers also fix their odds based on these. So in the long run you can't beat a machine with another machine. In that way house always wins.
Besides that, connecting betting to the machine kills all the excitement. I bet for fun and when I win I'm happy with that dopamine rather than earned money. I don't gamble to get rich.

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Quote from: piebeyb on December 09, 2022, 02:26:00 AM

I think it's possible for artificial intelligence with AI technology to be used in other fields, for example things that are more important to help other humans.
I would not be interested in using it in gambling let alone putting my money in bets using this technology even though the predictions are accurate 90% or 100% I still use my experience and mind to bet on sports betting gambling

Artificial intelligence may be somewhat reliable in other aspects like the human intelligence itself but I guess, it won’t be completely reliable when it comes to a match. Although it may give some hints but if I am to bet, betting based on AI might bring a bigger risk. So I would rather chose betting based on my instinct and certainly based on my high knowledge and experiences in gambling. That is way more reliable for me.

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I don't want to say that AI's or artificial intelligence are smarter than us humans because if not because of us AI's won't also be invented but I think AI can process things faster and more easier. They can scan the whole web for information about a particular sporting event and compare all of the information that they gather only to give you the best possible picks. So why not? But before it, I will observe them first and then do another research if their picks are quite good enough and they are not just picking randomly.

I am interested to see more of this ChatGPT thing so yeah op, ill love to support it if someone would create a thread about it.

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Quote from: panganib999 on December 10, 2022, 04:13:56 PM

Quote from: OgNasty on December 08, 2022, 11:11:37 PM

ChatGPT is all the rage at the moment. I’ve seen that people are asking it to predict sporting events. Would you leave gambling decisions up to artificial intelligence? Do you see any potential drawbacks for outsourcing your bets to a software program? Has anyone here tried this yet? Do we need someone to put together a thread of ChatGPT predictions to see how accurate they are? Any other thoughts?

I've had a friend tell me about ChatGPT but it was only in this post that I found out it was also being used to predict gambling outcomes. Honestly it would be something I would chip in as well if not only for the fact that it is still in its infancy, and certain prompts may skew the results into undesirable outcomes. That being said once it becomes more mature and more accurate with its predictions I can see myself using ChatGPT to aid in my bets because who doesn't love a good win right? That is at least provided that it doesn't get shut down by big boy tech companies.

I am curious also what is the accuracy rate of this AI when it comes to gambling.
Because if the accuracy is high, why not try its service, right?
But as you said, if people and other companies will learn that it is good in its predictions,
they may really do something to stop its operations. We can't tell for now.
The main goal of bettors is to win, so if this AI is giving you good winnings, definitely, gamblers will like this AI program.

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Quote from: OgNasty on December 08, 2022, 11:11:37 PM

ChatGPT is all the rage at the moment. I’ve seen that people are asking it to predict sporting events. Would you leave gambling decisions up to artificial intelligence? Do you see any potential drawbacks for outsourcing your bets to a software program? Has anyone here tried this yet? Do we need someone to put together a thread of ChatGPT predictions to see how accurate they are? Any other thoughts?

I've had a friend tell me about ChatGPT but it was only in this post that I found out it was also being used to predict gambling outcomes. Honestly it would be something I would chip in as well if not only for the fact that it is still in its infancy, and certain prompts may skew the results into undesirable outcomes. That being said once it becomes more mature and more accurate with its predictions I can see myself using ChatGPT to aid in my bets because who doesn't love a good win right? That is at least provided that it doesn't get shut down by big boy tech companies.

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Quote from: OgNasty on December 08, 2022, 11:11:37 PM

ChatGPT is all the rage at the moment. I’ve seen that people are asking it to predict sporting events. Would you leave gambling decisions up to artificial intelligence? Do you see any potential drawbacks for outsourcing your bets to a software program? Has anyone here tried this yet? Do we need someone to put together a thread of ChatGPT predictions to see how accurate they are? Any other thoughts?

I tried them already but it says that it is unable to provide sports prediction and only assist in providing general assist with general knowledge. May be they might add them later by collecting all the match statistics and then we can make an assumption on how the match might go, but it wont be never accurate as there are many factors in place for every match including the injury list and the current form.

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