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January 09, 2023, 05:36:21 PM
Maybe we haven't seen a high performance from AI because the technology to predict matches is not enough to collect valid data on the internet. But maybe it will get better in the coming years as new technologies get better than they are now. And if AI technology can really help humans collect more valid information, it will help humans to be able to place bets on teams that really have a greater potential to win than the opposing team. And maybe casinos will also make regulations related to the use of AI itself.
If reliable artificial intelligence baseed prediction tech on sports gambling would exist, i am pretty sure it's closed source and developers rather use it themselves to make money then sell it to public use. If it doesn't work however work well enough, it will be sold all over the internet as a premium AI prediction service so that devs get at least some profits out of it.

Surely, I think the code will be securely kept in secret.  If this kind of script is published publicly, bookmakers will go bankrupt but honestly, I do not think that there is a script that precisely forecast the result of the upcoming sports event.  The most they can do is just compare the factors between the opposing team and make a summary of the most possible outcome of the event disregarding all the unpredictable variables.  At the end of the day, the result depends on the players that are involved in that sports event unless the fight is rigged or fixed.
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January 09, 2023, 05:14:51 PM
Maybe we haven't seen a high performance from AI because the technology to predict matches is not enough to collect valid data on the internet. But maybe it will get better in the coming years as new technologies get better than they are now. And if AI technology can really help humans collect more valid information, it will help humans to be able to place bets on teams that really have a greater potential to win than the opposing team. And maybe casinos will also make regulations related to the use of AI itself.
If reliable artificial intelligence baseed prediction tech on sports gambling would exist, i am pretty sure it's closed source and developers rather use it themselves to make money then sell it to public use. If it doesn't work however work well enough, it will be sold all over the internet as a premium AI prediction service so that devs get at least some profits out of it.
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January 09, 2023, 04:54:44 PM
Betting can be made using predictions generated by artificial intelligence systems or bets can be placed using automated betting bots managed by artificial intelligence systems. But i would never want the AI ​​to decide on the bets. Because all the ambiance of betting would be lost. AI has no feelings or interests. If i bet with artificial intelligence, i cannot experience the excitement, calculations and ambition i experience while betting. Traditionally, i would continue to gamble and so i voted no.
You have a point too. If AI will be used to bet for us, we will not feel and experience anymore the thrill and excitement we may found from betting. Because admit it or not, being a gambler is not just all about winning profits, but it’s also one way for us to become entertained and be satisfied with whatever game we bet, regardless of that bet end up a lose or a win.
People would be throwing out that experience issue whether it would be giving off some fun or not as long they could make money then this is what matter the most.People do always matter about

on how to make money for whatever means or methods that they would really be able to make use of.Using up AI is something that absurd because if it does really work then all of us would really be making use of it which it would really be that a common approach for someone.
AI isnt everything but there are people whom had thought that it would be that relevant if it would be applied into this industry which is not.
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January 09, 2023, 03:40:06 PM
I think the reason why we have a lot of people saying no to AI betting is the fact that there are absolutely no examples of it anywhere. Think about it this way, if there was a single AI bot, branded and promoted by a lot of people, with proof of their bets BEFORE the bet and then it happens and the results etc. Would people still say No? Of course not, they would say yes a lot and that brand would sell a bunch of those AI bots to people.

However, as we all can imagine, it is futile because neither it would work, but also it would not be possible to sell it to people, like just buy one and then whatever it says, freely give it away to people.
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January 09, 2023, 02:58:43 PM
Betting can be made using predictions generated by artificial intelligence systems or bets can be placed using automated betting bots managed by artificial intelligence systems. But i would never want the AI ​​to decide on the bets. Because all the ambiance of betting would be lost. AI has no feelings or interests. If i bet with artificial intelligence, i cannot experience the excitement, calculations and ambition i experience while betting. Traditionally, i would continue to gamble and so i voted no.
You have a point too. If AI will be used to bet for us, we will not feel and experience anymore the thrill and excitement we may found from betting. Because admit it or not, being a gambler is not just all about winning profits, but it’s also one way for us to become entertained and be satisfied with whatever game we bet, regardless of that bet end up a lose or a win.
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January 09, 2023, 02:54:48 PM
Maybe we haven't seen a high performance from AI because the technology to predict matches is not enough to collect valid data on the internet. But maybe it will get better in the coming years as new technologies get better than they are now. And if AI technology can really help humans collect more valid information, it will help humans to be able to place bets on teams that really have a greater potential to win than the opposing team. And maybe casinos will also make regulations related to the use of AI itself.

Why do you think that AI does not show good results in forecasting? On the one hand, we cannot know this, since coefficient providers do not disclose the process of their work (at least until the end) - maybe AI already works great in a much wider range of tasks than we think. On the other hand, I am sure that in live betting, when hundreds of interconnected odds change online, AI elements are definitely used.

AI can cannot predict the future accurately, which is one of the major bases why I also think AI does not show good results in forecasting.  Even if it has the ability to gather data, it cannot tell the variable of the match such as the performance of the player during the match, the strategy of the team to use, and many more.  AI can give us some hints but will never have the ability to foretell the result of a game no matter how high-tech the AI is.
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January 09, 2023, 02:44:14 PM
Maybe we haven't seen a high performance from AI because the technology to predict matches is not enough to collect valid data on the internet. But maybe it will get better in the coming years as new technologies get better than they are now. And if AI technology can really help humans collect more valid information, it will help humans to be able to place bets on teams that really have a greater potential to win than the opposing team. And maybe casinos will also make regulations related to the use of AI itself.

Why do you think that AI does not show good results in forecasting? On the one hand, we cannot know this, since coefficient providers do not disclose the process of their work (at least until the end) - maybe AI already works great in a much wider range of tasks than we think. On the other hand, I am sure that in live betting, when hundreds of interconnected odds change online, AI elements are definitely used.
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January 09, 2023, 02:23:49 PM
It is same thing as asking me to take away all the fun in gambling. I'm not sure how chatGPT is going to predict outcome of a dice game it will be impossible for chatGPT to predict such a game.
The only aspect where it will work is sport betting and it's going to make it's prediction base on the players or based on what most people post online since it works with information provided to it and sometimes it might mislead it into producing wrong prediction. So I think, I don't have knowledge on how the chatGPT works though I have used a sometime ago when some posted it in the meta board and I asked it some few questions. I haven't tried asking it to predict any game before and I'm not sure if I would ever trust it enough to ask it.
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January 09, 2023, 07:03:34 AM
I don't know how AI would give us an accurate results, one thing i know is that predicting a match is more to an AI work even most times we humans finds it difficult determines who wins the match. Let's say for a gambling or casino site to start allowing such in their website would be a thing not acceptable to them, in as much we planning to win correctly they are also wanting to maximize their profits which limiting some forms of AI and tools on their website.

The thing with a casino is that the games are already set with odds so that the house is always in favor.

That means that even if you have a super AI that calculates everything, every single possible move you can make in a casino has at best a slight advantage to the casino.

This is why casinos make such amounts of money, because it's basically taking all the money from all the players in the long term, and paying sporadically to some players, some times.
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January 09, 2023, 06:59:44 AM
I don't know how AI would give us an accurate results, one thing i know is that predicting a match is more to an AI work even most times we humans finds it difficult determines who wins the match. Let's say for a gambling or casino site to start allowing such in their website would be a thing not acceptable to them, in as much we planning to win correctly they are also wanting to maximize their profits which limiting some forms of AI and tools on their website.
Maybe we haven't seen a high performance from AI because the technology to predict matches is not enough to collect valid data on the internet. But maybe it will get better in the coming years as new technologies get better than they are now. And if AI technology can really help humans collect more valid information, it will help humans to be able to place bets on teams that really have a greater potential to win than the opposing team. And maybe casinos will also make regulations related to the use of AI itself.
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January 09, 2023, 05:37:02 AM
I don't know how AI would give us an accurate results, one thing i know is that predicting a match is more to an AI work even most times we humans finds it difficult determines who wins the match. Let's say for a gambling or casino site to start allowing such in their website would be a thing not acceptable to them, in as much we planning to win correctly they are also wanting to maximize their profits which limiting some forms of AI and tools on their website.
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January 09, 2023, 12:15:42 AM
ChatGPT is all the rage at the moment. I’ve seen that people are asking it to predict sporting events. Would you leave gambling decisions up to artificial intelligence? Do you see any potential drawbacks for outsourcing your bets to a software program? Has anyone here tried this yet? Do we need someone to put together a thread of ChatGPT predictions to see how accurate they are?  Any other thoughts?

I haven't tried it yet but if on its introduction and test run it has succeeded in the industries where it was tested and is being tested why not, we are living where we integrate new forms of technology to reach our goal and AI is one of this, we should try it out but by incorporating it, casinos will have a hard time to address when used of AI when it is finally incorporated because it will greatly benefit gamblers more than the casinos.
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January 08, 2023, 11:43:13 PM
No. I gamble for fun and delegating it to ai would be fruitless for me. However I agree with,

Do we need someone to put together a thread of ChatGPT predictions to see how accurate they are? 

That'd only work with sports betting I think.
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January 08, 2023, 03:06:31 AM
For sure it would really be having those different stories because there would be people whom do find out that it was effective and working but most of the time then it would be sure that it wouldnt be something that
you could rely on.Its really just indeed the real thing that if these things were effective on the first place then lot or all of bookies and platforms would really file up some bankruptcy since lots would really be
milking out these places and this do proves out that it cant just be possible.It is really just on someones choice whether they would be using it or not.
I actually have asked it some specific questions and it was honest, to be fair, and said that it was just programmed and answers that it produces couldn't be perfect and accurate at some times.
Even if there are no disclaimers like that, we people already know that they are not perfect and it was still a new thing right? So, this bot still needs a lot of improvement to run better. At the mean time, if we want to do something more effective, then it should be the done in the old fashioned way.

I still think that bots like this are created for other things and not necessarily to help people to win on gambling, to help them finish their daily jobs, to do their homework in school, etc. Imagining it would be crazy. Technologies are so amazing and no doubt helpful but people shouldn't cross their limits and abuse what these technologies can do as it can only cause more harm than good.
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January 07, 2023, 11:31:08 AM
Betting can be made using predictions generated by artificial intelligence systems or bets can be placed using automated betting bots managed by artificial intelligence systems. But i would never want the AI ​​to decide on the bets. Because all the ambiance of betting would be lost. AI has no feelings or interests. If i bet with artificial intelligence, i cannot experience the excitement, calculations and ambition i experience while betting. Traditionally, i would continue to gamble and so i voted no.

As you said, bets can be made using predictions generated by artificial intelligence systems. but in fact, what happens will not always be as predicted by the artificial intelligence system. especially in this context is chatgpt. chatgpt is an AI-powered chabot, capable of creating interaction-style conversations. developed by OpenAI, chatgpt has the ability to really help humans. however, actually what you are worried about will not happen.

Believe me, so far this artificial kecedasar is still in the development stage for refinement. You don't need to worry about chatgpt which gamblers might be able to use to predict matches. I take the example of football, in football there are no definite calculations, what happens on the field will not always be as predicted. although on paper, the stronger team will have the upper hand. if football can be predicted accurately with mathematical calculations let alone artificial intelligence. then what happened, the world of professional sports would soon disappear. why, if the result could be decided before the fight even started. then, what is a match held for.
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January 07, 2023, 08:50:04 AM
I think when it comes to data collection, analysis, and comparison of every player, if AI has all the access to the data of each team and player, I believe the AI will come up with a better analogy than a veteran analyst.  AI removes emotions that somehow affect a person's view since favoritism vague a person's decision. So personally, I think AI is different from newsletters because it will come up with a better version of analogy and prediction.

In general, I agree, but the exclusion of the emotions of the one who predicts does not solve the problem of emotions in sports in general - they remain with the players. As we know, sometimes weaker opponents (as it is believed, this may be wrong - who knows) are able to outperform stronger ones due to their moral and volitional qualities. Or a strong player, having got into a stressful situation, sharply weakens the strength of his game. If AI is able to take into account such nuances by seeing them in some numbers, then of course it will be a better predictor than any pro.
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January 06, 2023, 11:26:39 AM
For sure it would really be having those different stories because there would be people whom do find out that it was effective and working but most of the time then it would be sure that it wouldnt be something that
you could rely on.Its really just indeed the real thing that if these things were effective on the first place then lot or all of bookies and platforms would really file up some bankruptcy since lots would really be
milking out these places and this do proves out that it cant just be possible.It is really just on someones choice whether they would be using it or not.
I actually have asked it some specific questions and it was honest, to be fair, and said that it was just programmed and answers that it produces couldn't be perfect and accurate at some times.

It was proven that the AI advice isn't accurate and most of it is just a random guess.  No way can an AI predict a future outcome of a sports event since it won't have any control over the possible happenings in that sport.
Yup.

I have asked some questions related to predictions and admitted that it can't give such answers.
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January 05, 2023, 06:32:47 PM
I still haven’t tried this out yet to see how it could work, but I do like all the discussion surrounding it. Personally, I don’t see why using AI would be any different than betting with a newsletter or following someone else’s picks. Who knows, maybe AI would be better. Without trying it out it’s hard to say, but next time I’m messing with ChatGPT I’m definitely going to give it a little test.

I think when it comes to data collection, analysis, and comparison of every player, if AI has all the access to the data of each team and player, I believe the AI will come up with a better analogy than a veteran analyst.  AI removes emotions that somehow affect a person's view since favoritism vague a person's decision. So personally, I think AI is different from newsletters because it will come up with a better version of analogy and prediction.
AI have entered each and every sector. Now this isn't big to discuss. The usage of AI into gambling industry doesn't look to be more interesting, because it does the prediction based on the data available along with the past results comparison. I don't know whether it'll have the ability to watch the match scenario and predict the outcome according to the situation.
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January 05, 2023, 06:19:46 PM
I still haven’t tried this out yet to see how it could work, but I do like all the discussion surrounding it. Personally, I don’t see why using AI would be any different than betting with a newsletter or following someone else’s picks. Who knows, maybe AI would be better. Without trying it out it’s hard to say, but next time I’m messing with ChatGPT I’m definitely going to give it a little test.

I think when it comes to data collection, analysis, and comparison of every player, if AI has all the access to the data of each team and player, I believe the AI will come up with a better analogy than a veteran analyst.  AI removes emotions that somehow affect a person's view since favoritism vague a person's decision. So personally, I think AI is different from newsletters because it will come up with a better version of analogy and prediction.
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January 05, 2023, 05:57:10 PM
I still haven’t tried this out yet to see how it could work, but I do like all the discussion surrounding it. Personally, I don’t see why using AI would be any different than betting with a newsletter or following someone else’s picks. Who knows, maybe AI would be better. Without trying it out it’s hard to say, but next time I’m messing with ChatGPT I’m definitely going to give it a little test.

If AI is able to improve the accuracy of forecasts, then this is bad news, especially for bettors, because the most advanced AI will be in exclusive access to bookmakers and not to players. Even if a perfect AI appears that is equally accessible to both bookmakers and players, it will be a disadvantage for the players: bookmakers will simply increase their margin. No publicly available tool will give you the opportunity to make money against the market. I think it's obvious.
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