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December 27, 2022, 11:04:57 AM
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No, of course it doesn't mean that. Especially regarding this particular AI that OP is talikng about, ChatGPT. Unfortunately it has a "knowledge cutoff". Read its reply to a question about current events:



So, I think using it for sports betting would be pretty much pointless.

Well, I'm not so sure that all the bookies are using absolutely up to date information about every single match around the world.

Also, sometimes teams don't face each other in years, so the odds wouldn't change that often.

I think it's a useful thing to use in certain scenarios, and I'm sure it can produce better odds than some betting companies in specific situations.
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December 27, 2022, 10:26:05 AM
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In the end it is just going to be another prediction. Just because the AI makes it, it doesn't mean that it is going to be right all the time. Maybe (and that's a BIG maybe) it will make a difference in the long run but I think none of us have the patience to make hundreds of games to make it work. Most of us are casual gamblers and making bets in a random order.

No, of course it doesn't mean that. Especially regarding this particular AI that OP is talikng about, ChatGPT. Unfortunately it has a "knowledge cutoff". Read its reply to a question about current events:



So, I think using it for sports betting would be pretty much pointless.
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December 24, 2022, 04:21:21 PM
Plenty of people already said no, and I think it is the right decision considering half of the fun in gambling is making your own decisions, if there is an AI that can predict the results correctly too many times in a row that will bankrupt the whole gambling world anyway. Imagine AI's at a level where it could profit you a ton, where would that money come from?

The casinos, and that means casinos will not have enough money to pay all of us, and bankrupt, and no other casino will take its place knowing you will just empty their funds. Hence, for the sake of future of gambling, I really hope that it won't happen and we can move on normally like we have done for thousands of years.
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December 23, 2022, 01:38:28 PM
ChatGPT is all the rage at the moment. I’ve seen that people are asking it to predict sporting events. Would you leave gambling decisions up to artificial intelligence? Do you see any potential drawbacks for outsourcing your bets to a software program?
Moreover, using artificial intelligence sometimes can give a better chance of winning when it comes to football, basketball and MMA prediction, simply because of it's access to a vest variety of data source needed to compare and contrast using previous head to head match results in all games mentioned above. But not all gambling games will this A.I be useful for, example slots and American roulette that has to do with luck.
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December 23, 2022, 11:27:37 AM
ChatGPT is all the rage at the moment. I’ve seen that people are asking it to predict sporting events. Would you leave gambling decisions up to artificial intelligence? Do you see any potential drawbacks for outsourcing your bets to a software program? Has anyone here tried this yet? Do we need someone to put together a thread of ChatGPT predictions to see how accurate they are?  Any other thoughts?
Personally, I didn't know that it is being used to predict in sports betting or it will be use soon. Sports betting is not suited to AI, it is very unpredictable if the game is clean without dirty negotiations with different teams then winning team could be hardly to define precisely. It might be used to predict the team that has an edge among other not the outcome. If that will happen there's not thrill in the game and integrity, transparency will no longer available.
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December 23, 2022, 10:59:59 AM
I admit that AIs are helpful but they should have their limitations. They should not cross the line because they can do harm more than good. In conclusion, it is still better if we can depend on our own skill and not on software like this because this can make us feel superior and more confident.

AI is only helpful if it’s properly program to do the certain task. I doubt that proving your superiority to an AI matter if the AI itself can do the task for you to make your life easier. I don’t mind using it if the tools is giving an accurate result in terms of prediction.

Why we need to do the conventional way if can skip the analysis part using AI that will crunch all the data for us to make an analysis on the said sports? AI is using stats alone which make it an accurate in terms of prediction if all the parameters is setup properly.
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December 23, 2022, 10:52:33 AM
I tried the beta version of ChatGPT to assist me in predicting a match between two club, the output it gave was that there isn't enough information to be able to predict that match accurately, I think there are more information needed to be feed into the ChatGPT for it to work effectively and efficiently, though I prefer to do a personal analysis in predicting the likely outcome of a match thereafter use ChatGPT for a confirmation purposes provided that it will analyze all the information I provided to it accurately, if the two outcomes my own analysis and that of the ChatGPT tallied then I will say it worth trying out the AI.
I heard ChatGPT have been nerfed last time because it became trendy and a lot of people are only depending on it. I think they deserved it because this makes people lazy. This can also kill the livelihood of other people because companies won't hire people anymore but they can just use a software like this to solve their own issues and they can then save a lot money.

I admit that AIs are helpful but they should have their limitations. They should not cross the line because they can do harm more than good. In conclusion, it is still better if we can depend on our own skill and not on software like this because this can make us feel superior and more confident.
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December 23, 2022, 06:11:18 AM
For something that has helped other industries reach their goal, why not sports betting AI is a technological breakthrough, especially in architecture, and medicine maybe just maybe AI is something that can help bookmakers to increase their prediction rate, we can speculate on something we are not aware of.
But if you Google information about AI's role in sports betting there are positive results, so why not try something that has huge potential in the sports betting industry?
https://sporttechie.com/ai-sports-betting-next-frontier
https://kifarunix.com/whats-the-role-of-ai-in-the-sports-betting-industry/
https://www.datasciencecentral.com/the-impact-of-ai-on-sports-betting-and-its-software/
Sure we can but OP was referring to ChatGPT specificly and that's pointless to use as ChatGPT latest training data cutoff is September 2021. There's no recent data for it to analyze. Meaning it couldn't count in any variations on player health, new players, new coaches etc. Nor any public AI is going to take a risk to give financial advices in for of guesswork.

There's a reason why influencers are saying that "this is not a financial advice" or are required to tell if they get paid in altcoins to speak about altcoins.
And even those accounts can be sued and kicked from twitter. Imagine how much risk can billion dollar (or what ever it's worth) company can avoid just by not giving gambling predictions.
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December 23, 2022, 05:49:41 AM
I’m a little bit surprised that people aren’t interested in the possibility of having AI place bets for you on sporting events. I guess the current implementation of AI would probably just pick whoever had the best odds, but I’d like to think it’s possible for it to analyze individual matchups and make a more thought out prediction. I think it’s worth giving a try and I may do it at some point. Maybe I’ll post the results so people can see.
It's definitely a unique idea, but as you've said, I think it's better for AIs to develop itself, to the point where their predictions aren't only a collation of data and identifying the better option out of the two (which kind of paints it as a yes/no question, isn't exactly wrong but I reckon there's still something more possible out of it), but also some bias that comes from say, it's development throughout its creation (I mean it has to have some if we're going to talk about AI right?).

In the end it is just going to be another prediction. Just because the AI makes it, it doesn't mean that it is going to be right all the time. Maybe (and that's a BIG maybe) it will make a difference in the long run but I think none of us have the patience to make hundreds of games to make it work. Most of us are casual gamblers and making bets in a random order.
I'd say it's an option to take as a basis, but still wouldn't be a guarantee since there are a lot of random factors involved in a match. If it was that straightforward then simulations would've probably dominated betting scenes. They might actually just be useful to rate the players instead of the match itself really, and make a prediction by yourself through that instead.

ChatGPT technology, is a breakthrough of technological innovation that is very useful for its users. helps answer user questions automatically, making it easier for users to get the information they need.  related to the title of this thread. maybe, if it's just for fun reference, that's fine. but if it's to be a reference for sports betting, I don't think so. This artificial intelligence is quite useful in all aspects of human life.

But if it is for a prediction of the results of a match, let alone one that involves betting. this really doesn't make any sense to me. just imagine, if a football match could be predicted from the results of mathematical calculations, what would football be like later. in this case artificial intelligence "AI". football is no longer fun for us to enjoy, there is no thrilling sensation, adrenaline that is racing. all the fun and enjoyment in sports, will disappear with the predictions of this artificial intelligence. fortunately, AI technology is not as good at predicting 100% accurate a sports match.
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December 23, 2022, 04:06:47 AM
For something that has helped other industries reach their goal, why not sports betting AI is a technological breakthrough, especially in architecture, and medicine maybe just maybe AI is something that can help bookmakers to increase their prediction rate, we can speculate on something we are not aware of.

But if you Google information about AI's role in sports betting there are positive results, so why not try something that has huge potential in the sports betting industry?

https://sporttechie.com/ai-sports-betting-next-frontier
https://kifarunix.com/whats-the-role-of-ai-in-the-sports-betting-industry/
https://www.datasciencecentral.com/the-impact-of-ai-on-sports-betting-and-its-software/
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December 23, 2022, 04:03:42 AM
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I’m a little bit surprised that people aren’t interested in the possibility of having AI place bets for you on sporting events. I guess the current implementation of AI would probably just pick whoever had the best odds, but I’d like to think it’s possible for it to analyze individual matchups and make a more thought out prediction. I think it’s worth giving a try and I may do it at some point. Maybe I’ll post the results so people can see.
It's definitely a unique idea, but as you've said, I think it's better for AIs to develop itself, to the point where their predictions aren't only a collation of data and identifying the better option out of the two (which kind of paints it as a yes/no question, isn't exactly wrong but I reckon there's still something more possible out of it), but also some bias that comes from say, it's development throughout its creation (I mean it has to have some if we're going to talk about AI right?).

In the end it is just going to be another prediction. Just because the AI makes it, it doesn't mean that it is going to be right all the time. Maybe (and that's a BIG maybe) it will make a difference in the long run but I think none of us have the patience to make hundreds of games to make it work. Most of us are casual gamblers and making bets in a random order.
I'd say it's an option to take as a basis, but still wouldn't be a guarantee since there are a lot of random factors involved in a match. If it was that straightforward then simulations would've probably dominated betting scenes. They might actually just be useful to rate the players instead of the match itself really, and make a prediction by yourself through that instead.
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December 23, 2022, 03:34:04 AM
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I tried the beta version of ChatGPT to assist me in predicting a match between two club, the output it gave was that there isn't enough information to be able to predict that match accurately, I think there are more information needed to be feed into the ChatGPT for it to work effectively and efficiently, though I prefer to do a personal analysis in predicting the likely outcome of a match thereafter use ChatGPT for a confirmation purposes provided that it will analyze all the information I provided to it accurately, if the two outcomes my own analysis and that of the ChatGPT tallied then I will say it worth trying out the AI.
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December 23, 2022, 03:06:27 AM
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This is my first time coming across such ideas and I personally don't think it will be easy to use AI in making predictions for a match bet.
There are alot of factors that is actually out into consideration while making a bet and also there are also consideration used by bet sites used to access the odd of a match.
I don't think it will easy using an AI to make predictions but hopefully in the future when all these factors are been balanced and analysized properly will AI be considered.
I would still prefer to do my analysis myself and make my bets too myself.
I would love to see and test this AI myself and will be glad if I can get a link to it.
Thanks
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December 23, 2022, 01:41:22 AM
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I have always liked the way artificial intelligence is used, however for many they only saw the way to use the technology to create cars, or comics, but I have seen so many ways to use artificial intelligence that it surprises me that in such a short time can learn things so quickly, not only can they predict what might happen but they have a great probability of seeing beyond what can happen, at the same time it is scary, I like to see a lot of things or how far it can go, but All the predictions that have been made and I prefer the one that predicted that the final would be Argentina vs. Portugal, and that Argentina would win it.


In the end it is just going to be another prediction. Just because the AI makes it, it doesn't mean that it is going to be right all the time. Maybe (and that's a BIG maybe) it will make a difference in the long run but I think none of us have the patience to make hundreds of games to make it work. Most of us are casual gamblers and making bets in a random order.
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December 23, 2022, 12:24:48 AM
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I have always liked the way artificial intelligence is used, however for many they only saw the way to use the technology to create cars, or comics, but I have seen so many ways to use artificial intelligence that it surprises me that in such a short time can learn things so quickly, not only can they predict what might happen but they have a great probability of seeing beyond what can happen, at the same time it is scary, I like to see a lot of things or how far it can go, but All the predictions that have been made and I prefer the one that predicted that the final would be Argentina vs. Portugal, and that Argentina would win it.
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December 22, 2022, 06:30:55 PM
#94
ChatGPT is all the rage at the moment. I’ve seen that people are asking it to predict sporting events. Would you leave gambling decisions up to artificial intelligence? Do you see any potential drawbacks for outsourcing your bets to a software program? Has anyone here tried this yet? Do we need someone to put together a thread of ChatGPT predictions to see how accurate they are?  Any other thoughts?

There's still no study on how accurate AI's prediction rate but many industries rely on and got help from these AI's so why not the sporting industries, in fact, it is already welcomed by bookmarkers I quoted this article

Exploring the Impact of Innovation and AI on the Sports Betting Industry

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Artificial Intelligence (AI) has had a major impact on the sports betting industry. AI-powered algorithms are now being used to analyze data and make predictions about the outcome of sporting events. This technology is helping bookmakers to better understand the odds and make more accurate predictions, which can lead to higher profits for them, as well as better outcomes for their customers. By using AI technology, bookmakers can create more accurate betting models, which can be used to determine the best times to place a bet and how much money should be wagered on each event.

We are moving into an age of AI and robotics and it helped us simplify things, they have their limitation also but if the other industries rely on their success with AI I don't see why trying and experimenting with the use of AI to predict the outcome of the games, but until there is enough study that it can help bookmakers we can only speculate on its capability to predict.
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December 22, 2022, 05:55:06 PM
#93
ChatGPT is all the rage at the moment. I’ve seen that people are asking it to predict sporting events. Would you leave gambling decisions up to artificial intelligence? Do you see any potential drawbacks for outsourcing your bets to a software program? Has anyone here tried this yet? Do we need someone to put together a thread of ChatGPT predictions to see how accurate they are?  Any other thoughts?
AI is being discussed in various forums and the development of AI is really amazing,, I will probably try using AI to predict the final result of a sports match, maybe it will help me, it will definitely be a fun betting experience.
Try it and you would be finding for yourself whether it would be worth or not, but if you do try out to read up all the opinions and words from forum members which its never that something been recommendable.
There are things which AI couldnt able to make out some judgment specially if it do really involves some emotional aspect.Come to think that AI is made by humans which it is really just that needing
to be enhanced or upgrade even more on making its library to be more vast and much bigger which it could be able to answer up everything on what you do throw on it.
Predicting outcomes on those gambling games and trying out to rely on AI is never been that ideal.
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December 22, 2022, 01:56:56 PM
#92
ChatGPT is all the rage at the moment. I’ve seen that people are asking it to predict sporting events. Would you leave gambling decisions up to artificial intelligence? Do you see any potential drawbacks for outsourcing your bets to a software program? Has anyone here tried this yet? Do we need someone to put together a thread of ChatGPT predictions to see how accurate they are?  Any other thoughts?
In my opinion, artificial intelligence technology like ChatGPT, which is often talked about by many people today, both on social media and gamblers in general, I think it's just a coincidence, chatbots are designed to interact perfectly, if a user sends a question, for example sports betting predictions such as football, of course I also acknowledge the greatness of ChatGPT not only being able to answer questions in English ChatGPT can also answer in several languages ​​depending on which country the user lives.

What is clear for me personally is that I don't want to use chatbot technology to predict sports/gambling bets, because the ChatGPT feature is prone to providing or giving rise to misinformation & bias, many users believe this information with the assumption that it is correct, it turns out that the predictions and information submitted are inaccurate, I trust myself more with sports betting predictions, not robots.
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December 22, 2022, 01:39:52 PM
#91
ChatGPT is all the rage at the moment. I’ve seen that people are asking it to predict sporting events. Would you leave gambling decisions up to artificial intelligence? Do you see any potential drawbacks for outsourcing your bets to a software program? Has anyone here tried this yet? Do we need someone to put together a thread of ChatGPT predictions to see how accurate they are?  Any other thoughts?
AI is being discussed in various forums and the development of AI is really amazing,, I will probably try using AI to predict the final result of a sports match, maybe it will help me, it will definitely be a fun betting experience.
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December 22, 2022, 01:25:24 PM
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Interesting question; I selected yes, but would like to elaborate on it. I wouldn't let it solely select my bets, instead I'm use it for research. Since, asking them how many times has x scored a knockdown in the first round, isn't something that's easily found out quickly. If the AI can gather that information for me, and give me that information that might sway me from time to time on bets.

That's just one example, but I can think of a few where something like this might actually aid users in making bets. After all, letting them select the bet isn't going to make it much better. Since, its based on information already out there. It could be good for analysis like I've mentioned.
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