Topic: [POLL] Using AI to predict outcomes - page 8. (Read 10120 times)

we don't need quantum computers or going so far to find good prediction models that can have an edge against the house in sports betting
there's people already creating models like that using data science and programming

there's lots of data available for sports and people can use this data sets to study profitable ways to bet

I saw some people doing so in instagram this days like leandrowar

Many people have said that betting is all about data analysis, and they may even be right, because when a team has 11 starting players who always win a lot of games and on a given day, 3 of the best players from the starting 11 and lose the game against a very weak team, so this defeat is marked in history, that is, in the next game, when the bookmakers see that they are again playing without 3 of their best players, then the bookmakers will place a high odds for that team and If their opponent is an average opponent, then bookmakers are likely to place the average opponent as the favorite

By this I mean that the AI will have to be used for other things that are not related to predicting game outcomes, because if people are trusting the AI to predict the outcome of games and placing bets based on the AI's predictions then people will lose money constantly, this is because sports betting has things that change every moment, while a player can be seen as the most important player on the team and is irreplaceable and due to his absence the team will lose, it may be the case that there will be another good player available on the team

but this good player doesn't play often, because there is no data about him available on the internet, but there are videos that show him playing in training and when a person looks at the video they can easily see that the player who will play as a substitute for The better the team plays, they will be able to play a good role and therefore betting on the team that has very high odds due to the lack of their best player will be a good option. AI could not do this, only a human could analyze

So, I tried to use Google Bard AI for sports betting, and it was wrong 8 times out of 10. When Bard was predicting a player to be Anytime Goalscorer, and I said he's not playing today because he's injured, Bard replied: "I apologize ... I am still under development ..." and probably that's why it was wrong with its other predictions too. If you've made 10 predictions and got only 2 of them right, it's not impressive, is it?

Yeah, the generation of media from an AI has exploded lately.

We now have music, videos, images, and text generated by an AI that can be as good as what a human can make.

And the cool thing is that it is just getting better every month and year

I’m still looking for people to give me recommendations on how and what I should AI in order to try and generate gambling predictions. I had better get on it because I’d love to kick off the NBA season this year with a thread predicting games. Maybe even throw some money at it for fun. If you have any experience playing with AI in this manner, PM me.

yes, and it's even fascinating to consider all the possibilities on that
like a new world that opens up full of new things we have no idea will be created

I'm really amazed on the quality of images created by AI at this point, as an example

The thing is that everything related to quantum is somewhat complicated, not even the first quantum computer has come out yet, of course when it comes out it will be a boom, but it will be as backward at this time as when the Mark-1 was created, which is one of the things that we will see at most, but it will have to go through many generations before it can be valued as one of the best technological solutions, so it could be said that for now Quantum Computing, quantum mechanics cannot be so advanced and if it is we will not have access so quickly, for now I think that only the AI due to the training of the robot, well it can advance, I say that it is 2-3 years if the AI advances and they improve by optimizing each algorithm of the robot , but now everyone is amazed by Chat-GPT4, but we cannot assume that this is only the maximum, they must make robot programs that are more advanced, that have better optimization than we even know about, of which there are only the hau, but We don't know until something extraordinary happens, I don't think AI will be able to break the Blockchain either, because it is something that goes much further than that, Quantum Computing many think that it can do it without me however everything is theory, and the kisses of theory They have their limits, then practice can be the real thing, what we must adhere to.

At one point I did have to program AI, when I was at the U, but the truth is that it seemed like a very crazy program to me, the truth was that it was difficult to understand, now it is still the same, it is not like programming in microcontrollers, which You can program in C and from there transfer it to assembler, on the other hand, AI is another bear, the console and everything in practice seems very crazy to me and you have to have very clear and precise recommendations in everything, in a database in a structured program, something that is achieved by reading at least 5 books and it turns out that one falls short with so much scope that AI has, that's why I think that in some time everything will be in a more optimized way.

AI is only but a tool and I think it is better used as an assistant because if it's used as the sole source to get all the needed information to get something done then I think there's definitely going to be a gap between desired results and what you actually get, let's not forget AI can't be logical enough as it is limited within the confined of information made available to it.

AI needs update in other to be efficient enough as the information AI has are usually imputed by humans so I a scenario where it's yet to be updated with recent happenings it's definitely going to give the old information which was made available to it as at the time it was been programed, so it's better not to totally depend on AI as it isn't 100% and can't be 100% reliable at anytime.

For football predictions you will agree with about how one needs be logical sometimes with their taughts and points of view inorder to make reasonable predictions but with AI as I stated earlier it's not logical it only make a cumulative of information supplies to it previously or over the times, so it's very possible AI will give wrong and unreliable predictions and for that reason I can not make use of it for my predictions.

Not 2 or 3 years. If I had to guess on the time before Artificial intelligence can be considering threatening towards the industry, it would take a combination of AI and also quantum computing, so an algorithm could somehow break the process behind provably fair gambling games.

Because, in the end it would not matter how powerful an AI is, because it would not have access to privileged information (protected by cryptographic keys) which are used to avoid bad actors to influence the outcome of the spins and rolls of dices in casinos.

Or at least, that is how I understand it is supposed to work, I am not necessarily the most illustrated person when comes to security software. 

Well, that's something that normally calls attention a lot, because not only in some casinos do they have an AI in customer service, but in several things that have to do with payments for services or something like that they do, to pay for a service. cable, internet, the first thing you do when you have problems is to get AI Support , then when you can't solve the problem what they do is be able to have it or take it to human Support , in that case we can do Something now more Advanced than the AI I could not solve , but the truth is that I am very interested in the fact that one as a client can use an AI to solve a problem Can they take you to another plane and if the client's AI can take you to a human, what would their behavior be like? Because this is something that can take a while and a way to solve things that sometimes I don't know if it can give the solution or get worse, because the truth is I do know that the AI is Advanced, but not that Much, apart from this because I think that the things when it comes to how to Best make a Possible Process and Execute it, it is Another way of looking at it.

AI in these cases can be Useful , but for more Advanced, more Complicated things, it Could be Useful in Certain tools, of course not That it is always superior to a human, but it can help a lot, in the games of chance those who are training their robot is Quite difficult for them to be able to beat the seven of a casino, I don't see it as viable, because the Development is quite strong, the way I see it is for it to reach a good level of Development Well, I See it going hard , at Least for this 2023 I Don't see that it could be something that could be Threatening for any casino , but if they go at the speed they are Going, then it is possible that in 2 or 3 more years the AI will be a Little more Perfect And if you can threaten a casino System , that's why casinos now have Plenty of Security Sources.

Of course, you could have an AI assistant that talks to an AI of a company to say, make you an appointment.

It is basically going to be the new API. AIs talking to other AIs.

There is no problem with it

Hehe. What I already wrote about in this thread is getting closer - the other day OpenAI released a new version of ChatGTP and now the neural network can work with video and audio input. From this to the moment when the neural network can massively receive data in this way (for example, watch an entire season of Serie A in a couple of hours) is quite a bit. After this, the neural network will be independent of humans in terms of obtaining data and, most likely, the meaning of forecasting with its help will increase exponentially.

I don't really think we'll have the time for regulators to adapt
we can see it with crypto, many are creating laws about things they don't even understand and the few who do are stuck in a system that is too slow to adapt.

Regarding replacing costumer service for AIs, you can fight that by creating an AI to contact costumer support for you as well.

Every knife cuts for the two sides in these cases.

OMG, you are right! I just checked and indeed Bard's knowledge is up to date:



I didn't know that, thank you! Have you tried to use Bard for predicting outcomes?


There's nothing immoral in using AI for sportsbetting. Unless it's forbidden by the site, you are good to go. But I undeerstand why the question arises. Anything new encounters suspicion and hostility at first. Like using zippers instead of buttons was considered "infernal" by some.

The current ChatGPT version only has 2022 data iirc so you're better off using Bard AI if you want to test out an AI's prediction on sports, Bard's still in experimental stage so tread lightly when you plan to use it for real. Regarding the morality of using AI for sportsbetting I think that it's not a bad idea to use them especially if it helps you put in perspective on the teams you want to bet on but using AI to bet blindly, I think it's stupid.

Most of the time though sports gamblers are also looking into the cumulative statistics to foresee the results of future matches. The Bing AI chat as far as I know predicted the majority of match results.  Although it did make a few mistakes, it's almost good to be used for parlays but it's up for you to risk as well.

An Injury of athletes is hard to predict though so maybe it's still not as preferred for someone who trusts their judgments.

Depending upon Chat GPT for making the sports predictions is totally wrong. The ChatGPT cannot predict correctly based on the changes in the current ground realities like some key player may get injured or there is a change of weather that may have an impact on a particular sport like cricket.

However, while making a bet, you would like to have some history and stats about the previous matches and the players. Let's suppose you are betting on who will win the football world cup but before that you need to see some of the stats of the previous world cup. In that case, in instead of google, chatGPT may become a very handy tool that can give you information within minutes or seconds.

I would prefer combination of chatGPT plus my own analysis for placing the sports bets.

There is no actual threat, AI is a tool, there will be new ways of doing things, and people will value more certain industries and less others, plus some industries will be created and others will be decimated.

It is going to be a big change, but there will always be a need for human connection at least

Deep Blue defeated Garry Kasparov is a significant event. The acceleration of AI's progress is overwhelming. Yes, it threatens our jobs and livelihoods. Human work, jobs, and functions are being taken over by AI. Fear and concern are apparent

Predicting sports outcomes? It’s still a grey area. Although AI can evaluate massive amounts of data, can it understand sports' unpredictable, dynamic nature? The human factor, unexpected turns, adrenaline rush... AI: Can it forecast everything? Years of expertise, intuition, and understanding help sports commentators predict. Can AI duplicate instinct and depth? Don't you see a big limit?

I don't know maybe we can also count Deep Blue, a project that was build by IBM and take the task to have a 6 games matches against the number 1 chess player that time in Gary Kasparov and beat him.

But recently, the phase was really accelerate to the point that we feel threaten, specially the notion that AI might be used for jobs that is supposedly design for Human. In any case in sports, it might take several years. However, I don't know if they can perfectly predicted the outcome though, as there are a lot of sports analysis that is needed just to be able to somewhat predict the correct winner.