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Topic: [PoS+PoW] eXocoin [EXO]-gen 2.0- dev. from scratch! Give-Away | Open Beta - page 2. (Read 415652 times)

hero member
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Also had my refund, Thanks for being A cool dude exo coin
sr. member
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Looks like I have my refund already. Thank you!.
sr. member
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I guess everyone want their money right away so they will quite agree with anything and probably dislike anyone who disagrees, but I don't think 15+ btc sounds fair. I know you spent time on it, but nothing was delivered. If I build houses for a living and I spend a lot of time trying to build one but in the long run I end up delivering absolutely nothing, I don't think the house owners should pay me much. I am sorry you put your time and effort on something that didn't pan out, but so did us all. Not to mention the pain we all went by awaiting for over an year for you to decide to return the money back + USD/BTC parity down.

I think 10 btc would be more fair. I know that's little to nothing when you calculate hours spent on this work, but please take the other things into consideration.
Does anyone else see reason and agree with me on this, or have any other value to suggest?

Well I don't agree that your house analogy is a fair one. The software development business is very different to the building trade and it's not unusual for people to be paid for working on a project that ultimately fails. Builders are working with established tech and proven materials, it's not the same at all.

Also 10btc or 15btc makes very little difference to each individual refund. Even for 1.5 btc investors it works out about 0.05btc extra if I'm right. Why bother even arguing about it?
newbie
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I guess everyone want their money right away so they will quite agree with anything and probably dislike anyone who disagrees, but I don't think 15+ btc sounds fair. I know you spent time on it, but nothing was delivered. If I build houses for a living and I spend a lot of time trying to build one but in the long run I end up delivering absolutely nothing, I don't think the house owners should pay me much. I am sorry you put your time and effort on something that didn't pan out, but so did us all. Not to mention the pain we all went by awaiting for over an year for you to decide to return the money back + USD/BTC parity down.

I think 10 btc would be more fair. I know that's little to nothing when you calculate hours spent on this work, but please take the other things into consideration.
Does anyone else see reason and agree with me on this, or have any other value to suggest?
hero member
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I am OK with that.
Glad to hear!


So if anyone does not agree with the plan, please respond here, via pm or to [email protected]. If that is ok, I will start with the transactions today at ~20:00 UTC and will finish them tomorrow at latest. I have the passphrase of the wallet, the client (chain) up to date and running. So there won't be any issues on the technical part I guess.

Looking foreword to that!


Not sure if you heard about it, but there is a planed "Stress Test" scheduled for the beginning of September. I don't know when exactly it will start, but if it dose before you have sent the Bitcoins, might be a good idea to use a higher transaction fee.
https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/coinwallet-plans-stress-test-bitcoin-make-case-larger-block-size/

hero member
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Look forward to seeing the refund.
sr. member
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I am OK with that.
Glad to hear!


So if anyone does not agree with the plan, please respond here, via pm or to [email protected]. If that is ok, I will start with the transactions today at ~20:00 UTC and will finish them tomorrow at latest. I have the passphrase of the wallet, the client (chain) up to date and running. So there won't be any issues on the technical part I guess.
hero member
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Had more time than expected today - LTC payout finished right now (all LTC investors, who asked for a refund, got a factor of 1.47 of their investment back). All LTC refund proposals have been delivered, but those transactions are still unconfirmed by the network yet.
BTC, as said, tomorrow or wednesday..

best regards
eXocoin

#edit: people who would have gotten a bounty in eXocoin will get some BTC more than others, but not too much. The final factor for BTC payouts is not calculated yet ...

Calculation seems to be finished. If nothing is wrong here are the figgures:

invested LTC 322
returned LTC 301
keeping for me 21 LTC
== factor of 1.47 of investment, all refund-requestors get

invested BTC 152.5   (after subtracting costs)
returning BTC 136.8  (1.5 BTC used in sum for bounties, 2BTC still reserved for claims that are on my list, marked as "probably or waiting for answer")
keeping for me 15.7 BTC
== factor of 1.20 of investment, all refund-requestors get

which turns out to be a salary of ~$3200 ---  roughly $1.50/hour I got from the project. I hope you find the compensation I pay off myself reasonable for the hard work of more than 2,000 hours of planing, coding, writing and communication in general. And it is surely lower than the amount of $ I would have gotten if I scammed you right away in the beginning (> $100,000) or finishing the project (another 125BTC via escrow). (or if I would have worked 2,000 more hours on my regular work ...)

best regards eXocoin

I am OK with that.
sr. member
Activity: 294
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Had more time than expected today - LTC payout finished right now (all LTC investors, who asked for a refund, got a factor of 1.47 of their investment back). All LTC refund proposals have been delivered, but those transactions are still unconfirmed by the network yet.
BTC, as said, tomorrow or wednesday..

best regards
eXocoin

#edit: people who would have gotten a bounty in eXocoin will get some BTC more than others, but not too much. The final factor for BTC payouts is not calculated yet ...

Calculation seems to be finished. If nothing is wrong here are the figgures:

invested LTC 322
returned LTC 301
keeping for me 21 LTC
== factor of 1.47 of investment, all refund-requestors get

invested BTC 152.5   (after subtracting costs)
returning BTC 136.8  (1.5 BTC used in sum for bounties, 2BTC still reserved for claims that are on my list, marked as "probably or waiting for answer")
keeping for me 15.7 BTC
== factor of 1.20 of investment, all refund-requestors get

which turns out to be a salary of ~$3200 ---  roughly $1.50/hour I got from the project. I hope you find the compensation I pay off myself reasonable for the hard work of more than 2,000 hours of planing, coding, writing and communication in general. And it is surely lower than the amount of $ I would have gotten if I scammed you right away in the beginning (> $100,000) or finishing the project (another 125BTC via escrow). (or if I would have worked 2,000 more hours on my regular work ...)

best regards eXocoin
hero member
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Thanks Exo!
Looking foreword to receiving the refund.
hero member
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Thanks for the update exo
sr. member
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Hi APullman, glad I found you ;-) I'll reply to you (you will get your coins back) and to those other mails tomorrow, as I am short in time today.


best regards
eXocoin
Important information:

Closing refund proposals at 31st August 12 AM UTC


#edit: All mails are replied by now. No open refund-requests are in queue. I do not expect (m)any new requests in the next 12 hours. Next notification tomorrow.


best regards
eXocoin



#edit: closed. Expect payouts to happen tomorrow or wednesday.
newbie
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#edit2: Does anyone know the user apullman? I cannot reach him via pm or mail. If so, tell him to immediatly write to [email protected], thanks

Hi eXocoin,
I sent you an email ([email protected]).
Thanks!
hero member
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good to see people will get a refund in the end.
hero member
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fell sadly . just take care of yourself
sr. member
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I am not at home on friday and probably saturday as well. So don't wonder why you do not get a reaction in that time. Anyway I am going to close the refund proposals probably on saturday, calculating what each of you will get. Expect the transfers then on sunday/monday/tuesday

best regards
eXocoin
sr. member
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all new mails and pms have been answered by now. Table on exocoin.org updated. You should find yourself on the list if you got a positive mail reply. We have reached the 100 btc threshhold Smiley
sr. member
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sr. member
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Hi.

I invested x btc and am just about to repsond to the email. I completely forgot the address I used to send the bitcoin though. Is there a list of investment addresses so I can see if that address is still active/in control of?

Regards.

Please see the PM I write in a minute. If anyone else has similar problems do not hesitate to write a pm or here.

#edit bahamapascal is right, your address must be somewhere there. Anyway I help you out via pm


#edit2:
@ExoCoin: Thanks for coming back and refunding our investments! Must admit I didn't count on that any more.

Well I understand that nobody counted me in any longer. I couldn't live with such a fraud and wouldn't use the coins either. It was never my intention to scam someone


#edit3: you will get a bit more btc/ltc than you have invested. That depends on how many proposals there will be in the next few days. Currently I would say that you get something like your investment factorized by 1.3 to 1.4, but dont nail me down on that figgures right now. Official numbers will be calculated once we close the refunds (if there are no more ltc proposals that factor would be quite high (something like factor 3, however the ltc development is really sad ...). But lets wait how many more refund request there will be. All I can tell for that is, there have been 7 new requests today.
I have tried to reach all direct investors that I could reach via mail. If you know someone who did not filled a refund request please tell him.


#edit4: I sent out many PMs to maximize the people I can reach. Due to limits of bitcointalk I cannot sent more than 120 an hour, so not all got one yet.
#edit5: done.
hero member
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Hi.

I invested x btc and am just about to repsond to the email. I completely forgot the address I used to send the bitcoin though. Is there a list of investment addresses so I can see if that address is still active/in control of?

Regards.

You should find your Address here I hope, those where the receiving addresses for Investments:

https://blockchain.info/de/address/1CdK3k3kgyn8rhhUihcF1ZpFmwmzFLai6Y

https://blockchain.info/de/address/17fmsbreSBJ6FrfZUXxbkSbeUZco6GXfo9


@ExoCoin: Thanks for coming back and refunding our investments! Must admit I didn't count on that any more.

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