Possible Bitcoin connection to Colorado shooting? - page 13.

Bjork

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Quote from: cryptoanarchist on July 22, 2012, 11:37:19 AM

Quote from: Bjork on July 22, 2012, 11:32:03 AM

I haven't read through all the posts in this thread, but

That interview does look pretty fake but that doesn't mean the shooting didn't happen. It means that either the guy is lying to get some "TV time" or the station paid him so they could have an "eye-witness interview"

If you have a fake witness, why not fake victims and a fake shooter. People just accept it as reality because they're too lazy to do their own due diligence. But this happened in my backyard, so to speak, and I have and am telling you as a competent human being - these fuckers made it up.

Well, you've certainly piqued my interest. I'm not one to just "dismiss things" (although I have my doubts on this one) but I will read more into this.

Scott J

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cryptoanarchist, you really have a warped mind.

By holding such unfounded views over incidents like this, you actually help the government when they do act in an underhand way. You make it easier for people to dismiss potentially valid arguments as crackpot theories and turn people away from critical thinking. Well done if that is your intention.

Please, if you honestly want to hold the government to account for its actions focus your mind more - living in such a fantasy world plays into their hands.

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Quote from: cryptoanarchist on July 22, 2012, 11:37:19 AM

If you have a fake witness, why not fake victims and a fake shooter. People just accept it as reality because they're too lazy to do their own due diligence. But this happened in my backyard, so to speak, and I have and am telling you as a competent human being - these fuckers made it up.

They're discussing this one No Agenda right now... I'll edit this post to include a link to the podcast once it's finalized, but the live stream is at noagendastream.com

As promised, here's the link to the podcast: http://428.nashownotes.com/

Discussion starts pretty much right away, and continues through most of the show.

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Quote from: Bjork on July 22, 2012, 11:32:03 AM

I haven't read through all the posts in this thread, but

That interview does look pretty fake but that doesn't mean the shooting didn't happen. It means that either the guy is lying to get some "TV time" or the station paid him so they could have an "eye-witness interview"

If you have a fake witness, why not fake victims and a fake shooter. People just accept it as reality because they're too lazy to do their own due diligence. But this happened in my backyard, so to speak, and I have and am telling you as a competent human being - these fuckers made it up.

cryptoanarchist

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Quote from: Transisto on July 22, 2012, 11:24:01 AM

Non-existing deaths, well this is far-fetch, It could have been staged with real casualties. . We're not talking "staged" on the same level here.

Much easier to just make people up. If you had real victims, you'd have real families that were really pissed off and dedicated to finding the truth. Why bother when you control the media and can just make shit up.

Look at these fake people: http://graphics.latimes.com/towergraphic-aurora-dark-knight-victims/

If that's all they have to come up with to fool the public - why not?

"And when you trust your television
What you get is what you got
‘Cause when they own the information
Oh, they can bend it all they want"
- JOHN MAYER

Taz

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TV and movies is where people get most of their suspicion of authority.
There are countless fictional stories of government conspiracy.
The problem is we all sometimes have trouble distinguishing between fiction and reality.
So a lot of the time, stories that agree with our theories, we take as proof,
And stories that disagree with us we see as media lies, manipulation and propaganda.

The main problem with society is that it's made up of humans.
Oh, please god, don't dispute that we're all human.

Bjork

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Look for the bear necessities!!

I haven't read through all the posts in this thread, but

That interview does look pretty fake but that doesn't mean the shooting didn't happen. It means that either the guy is lying to get some "TV time" or the station paid him so they could have an "eye-witness interview"

Transisto

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Quote from: Taz on July 22, 2012, 10:22:57 AM

Let's say you're the sane one here,
What would be the point of it?

If they wanted to disarm the people they could just introduce more legislation without discussion, they do it all the time.
If they wanted more people with guns they would create some form of home invasion.

All this sensation will do is draw up more aggressive opinion on both sides of the fence.
What are these evil geniuses trying to do?

While way to early to pull the false flag card, researching this with doubts is a good thing.

IMO, it would most likely be to add "real" and thus strengthening the message in the movie. Everybody seeing this movie from now on will think about the "real event". People staging these events are in for the "very" long con, If you'd understand how movies help molding mindsets for future mind control you'd be at bit more suspicious of these event.

Non-existing deaths, well this is far-fetch, It could have been staged with real casualties. . We're not talking "staged" on the same level here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOvGfatjPMc
Ps : I hate A. Jones and so I mostly skipped at above video (a month ago), I thought "crazy".

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I'm not really arguing one way or another at this point, but for those of you who seem to be doubt even the possibility of government false-flag terror, here is a short history of some of the most well-known, de-classified government false flag terror attacks carried out by the US government and others:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83h0cC_-5NU

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Quote from: elux on July 22, 2012, 11:02:31 AM

Quote from: cryptoanarchist on July 22, 2012, 10:14:53 AM

Right. Instead of actually arguing the merits you jump to ad hominem and assumption. Good Job.

Well, sorry about that. Frankly, there is no merit to be found in your arguments.
None of the "evidence" you brought up even suggests the conclusion you posit.

In fact, the entire list can be explained by one basic assumption:

Sudden, unexpected disasters - be they man made or natural - are chaotic and confusing.
No one knows, exactly, what's going on. This is perfectly normal.

Every involved party, save the perpetrator (police, witnesses, media and witnesses) start out with zero knowledge, other that something is happening! After the things that happened have finished happening, the material facts are only gradually nailed down and eventually confirmed by huge numbers of sources. After they know what happened they can correct any incorrect information from what they thought was happening. The full story emerges. This takes time.

Media and police work from from zero knowledge, through limited knowledge,
towards full knowledge as they piece together "the story".

That's what's seems to have happened here, as it has, and will happen, in every chaotic unexpected disaster in history.
Taking this into account, tour "slam dunk" evidence seems to be no evidence at all, it disproves your own hypothesis.

I numbered my points to make it easier for you to argue them, but yet you still dodge them.

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Quote from: cryptoanarchist on July 22, 2012, 10:14:53 AM

Right. Instead of actually arguing the merits you jump to ad hominem and assumption. Good Job.

Well, sorry about that. Frankly, there is no merit to be found in your arguments.
None of the "evidence" you brought up even suggests the conclusion you posit.

In fact, the entire list can be explained by one basic assumption:

Sudden, unexpected disasters - be they man made or natural - are chaotic and confusing.
No one knows, exactly, what's going on. This is perfectly normal.

Every involved party, save the perpetrator (police, witnesses, media and witnesses) start out with zero knowledge, other that something is happening! After the things that happened have finished happening, the material facts are only gradually nailed down and eventually confirmed by huge numbers of sources. After they know what happened they can correct any incorrect information from what they thought was happening. The full story emerges. This takes time.

Media and police work from from zero knowledge, through limited knowledge,
towards full knowledge as they piece together "the story".

That's what's seems to have happened here, as it has, and will happen, in every chaotic unexpected disaster in history.
Taking this into account, your "slam dunk" evidence seems to be no evidence at all.

You refute your own hypothesis.

Taz

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Sure crack... or maybe some beer.

You can make your own at home, which is pretty cool.
You can make your own crack too but it probably takes a bit more effort, lol.

You could find out where the local hookers hang out, see what they can do.
Make sure to be careful with them though.

cryptoanarchist

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If anyone can find ANY online footprint to ANY of the victims prior to 2012 I'd love to have the link.

AndrewBUD

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Try crack...... Cheesy

Taz

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Well before you go any further with that,
I suggest doing something new and exciting,
It might be your last chance.

Skydiving maybe, Anyone else have any suggestions?
Is there anything you always wanted to do, cryptoanarchist?

cryptoanarchist

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Quote from: AndrewBUD on July 22, 2012, 10:42:04 AM

Quote from: cryptoanarchist on July 22, 2012, 10:34:13 AM

meanwhile, a list of fake victims is here:

http://graphics.latimes.com/towergraphic-aurora-dark-knight-victims/

Who writes this stuff? I mean really - do people actually believe these stories? This shit is ridiculous.

Also, since when do people take 3 year olds and a 3 MONTH OLD BABY to a midnight movie?!?! That's obvious sympathy dressing

Look up some of these names in a few days and see if there are any funeral arrangements.

I know LOTS of people in Denver and have my feelers out. These people are non-existent. If there are funerals, they'll probably be closed casket. I hope they don't fake a dead body, but it wouldn't be beneath them.

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Quote from: cryptoanarchist on July 22, 2012, 10:34:13 AM

meanwhile, a list of fake victims is here:

http://graphics.latimes.com/towergraphic-aurora-dark-knight-victims/

Who writes this stuff? I mean really - do people actually believe these stories? This shit is ridiculous.

Also, since when do people take 3 year olds and a 3 MONTH OLD BABY to a midnight movie?!?! That's obvious sympathy dressing

Look up some of these names in a few days and see if there are any funeral arrangements.

cryptoanarchist

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Quote from: Taz on July 22, 2012, 10:36:05 AM

Does your mom think you are dangerous?

If so maybe you should get some distance.
Save a little money and get away for a while.
Do a little travel around the state,
Climb a mountain, row a canoe down a river.
Meet people from other places.
Find the other perspective.

It will clear your worries and make you even wiser.

She does. And she's right. But I wouldn't open fire on a random theater. Maybe a masonic temple though.

Taz

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Does your mom think you are dangerous?

If so maybe you should get some distance.
Save a little money and get away for a while.
Do a little travel around the state,
Climb a mountain, row a canoe down a river.
Meet people from other places.
Find the other perspective.

It will clear your worries and make you even wiser.

cryptoanarchist

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meanwhile, a list of fake victims is here:

http://graphics.latimes.com/towergraphic-aurora-dark-knight-victims/

Who writes this stuff? I mean really - do people actually believe these stories? This shit is ridiculous.

Also, since when do people take 3 year olds and a 3 MONTH OLD BABY to a midnight movie?!?! That's obvious sympathy dressing

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