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September 22, 2017, 11:42:13 AM
I also think that 100% is too much. It must be 30% but stable and constant. Wink
even they take the risk to invest but 100% is too much. they will dump all their bonus to market
newbie
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September 22, 2017, 11:02:00 AM
I also think that 100% is too much. It must be 30% but stable and constant. Wink
full member
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September 21, 2017, 09:54:22 PM
I personally dont like bonus for ICOs, i feel like its a shady practice. And these usually come in ICOs with INSANELY high hard caps (or no hard caps at all in place).

For me the best ICOs do it like Kyber did - set up a maximum that a single person can buy (2-3eth is good, so you dont create whales right off the bat) and dont offer bonuses for earlier buyers.
sr. member
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September 21, 2017, 09:43:32 PM
Hi

In most of ICOs, investors can get some bonuses, if they invest sooner. In my opinion these bonuses not only don't cause the ICO to be successful, but also cause the ICO to fail. In some ICOs there is up to 100% bonus.

If I see that there are some people have gotten 100% bonus in pre-ICO, I don't invest in that ICO, Because they will dump their coins after crowdsale and cause the price to fall.
 Do you agree with me? What are your opinions?

It is one of the possibilities but it is not definite and conclusive. It does not automatically follow that because a certain ICO is offering a 100% bonus, it is going to fail in the future. A hundred percent bonus is normally offered to those very early birds. These include a very small number of solid investors which are not only buying for the sake of investing in tokens but to utilize the entire project.
sr. member
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September 21, 2017, 09:11:04 PM
why you dont invest first to get these bonus? this is reward for them. they should have bonus because they take the risk.
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September 21, 2017, 07:47:00 PM

I think youre right. Pre sales with a huge bonus get dumped the most time and the price will stay arround the ICO price! I love presales where the community gets added to whitelist. More people that are interested in the project going to invest and they dont dump their coins, because they believe in the project.

I am curious to know more about the whitelists - is that something standard what people do? and how it differs from the ordinary pre-sale? Do people not get any coins before ICO in this case, but just book for some amount? or what? any special topic on the whitelists?


I also wanted to know more.. I've just asked the same question here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.22090367
As I understood these guys have a whitelist and don't have pre-sale. Will see what they say..
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September 21, 2017, 03:27:00 PM

I think youre right. Pre sales with a huge bonus get dumped the most time and the price will stay arround the ICO price! I love presales where the community gets added to whitelist. More people that are interested in the project going to invest and they dont dump their coins, because they believe in the project.

I am curious to know more about the whitelists - is that something standard what people do? and how it differs from the ordinary pre-sale? Do people not get any coins before ICO in this case, but just book for some amount? or what? any special topic on the whitelists?
sr. member
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September 21, 2017, 07:22:16 AM
#99
Hi

In most of ICOs, investors can get some bonuses, if they invest sooner. In my opinion these bonuses not only don't cause the ICO to be successful, but also cause the ICO to fail. In some ICOs there is up to 100% bonus.

If I see that there are some people have gotten 100% bonus in pre-ICO, I don't invest in that ICO, Because they will dump their coins after crowdsale and cause the price to fall.
 Do you agree with me? What are your opinions?

I think youre right. Pre sales with a huge bonus get dumped the most time and the price will stay arround the ICO price! I love presales where the community gets added to whitelist. More people that are interested in the project going to invest and they dont dump their coins, because they believe in the project.
sr. member
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September 21, 2017, 07:11:30 AM
#98
I would say 50% or lower is reasonable, but something like 100% bonus definitely looks scammy. For example, Filecoin's early bonus is really crazy and is not well designed.
full member
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September 21, 2017, 04:53:31 AM
#97
well for users of its coin it is a good thing because you can get more coins and can do what service they offer that satisfies you. On the other hand, if you are an investor it should be a practice to stay away with high bonus from Pre-ICO since they are just ruining away the value of their coin. 50% and above is a bad bonus for me in my opinion.
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September 21, 2017, 02:08:30 AM
#96
... I usually avoid any project that offer 50% bonus or more during the ICO or Pre-ICO... 
Any clear reasons why offering the large discount at about 50% is a bad thing?  I saw several projects doing that...Does 50% discount sound suspicious? Does it give any signal that the project quality is poor?  Or what is wrong with 50%?
full member
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September 21, 2017, 01:46:24 AM
#95
Bonuses don't cause the ICO to be successful, they only help it along the way.

Imagine if you were a startup who was bootstraping everything, you pull off a pre-sale and you have over 200k? can throw that into marketing, more team members etc. Can give your startup the push it needs to be really successful.

Also why shouldn't early adopters get a nice bonus? They believed in the project from the start.
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September 21, 2017, 12:16:53 AM
#94
Hi

In most of ICOs, investors can get some bonuses, if they invest sooner. In my opinion these bonuses not only don't cause the ICO to be successful, but also cause the ICO to fail. In some ICOs there is up to 100% bonus.

If I see that there are some people have gotten 100% bonus in pre-ICO, I don't invest in that ICO, Because they will dump their coins after crowdsale and cause the price to fall.
 Do you agree with me? What are your opinions?

Disagree, capital needs to be sourced, and newer projects don't attract investors.

New projects need a way to stand out, and bonuses help with that.

Good deals don't necessarily mean it will fail, it builds  FOMO effect for investors when they see people crowding in and they're missing out.

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September 20, 2017, 11:42:46 PM
#93
Hi

In most of ICOs, investors can get some bonuses, if they invest sooner. In my opinion these bonuses not only don't cause the ICO to be successful, but also cause the ICO to fail. In some ICOs there is up to 100% bonus.

If I see that there are some people have gotten 100% bonus in pre-ICO, I don't invest in that ICO, Because they will dump their coins after crowdsale and cause the price to fall.
 Do you agree with me? What are your opinions?
yes i agree with you
any good project will not dare to give very big bonuses, because they understand what will happen if doing that.
I've seen some projects that give big bonus in Pre-sale and I see now their ICO project stuck in one place hard to climb
member
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September 20, 2017, 10:52:19 PM
#92
I just estimate that increased bonuses are marketing tricks that make ICO popular for the eyes and are given to attract more investors, but ICO success is not just a moment away. Maybe it's the success of ICO but there are more factors to it. But I really agree with you because giving bonuses is too much, 100% pre-ICO even steady.
member
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September 20, 2017, 08:28:48 PM
#91
foodcoin.io had a great multiplier bonus of 1.35 and 1.7 . Does anyone know of any others coming up in the short term?

I've just found out a very promising one.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/annico-artoken-decentralized-arvr-ecosystem-for-3d-content-exchange-2135473
It seems like they've got a great potential of their tokens, also because they're gonna create a wide marketplace ecosystem for a visual content. That's cool! Just started reading their whitepaper, will see how it goes


That's really cool! It looks like you could have good bonuses if you invest early. Did you see their bounty campaigns? https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bountyar-artoken-by-cappasity-extending-the-arvr-double-stakes-2141145

I've never thought about it, but actually, it's a great idea to earn some tokens even before the ICO start
I also haven't but want to try! 
hero member
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September 20, 2017, 06:48:34 PM
#90
Hi

In most of ICOs, investors can get some bonuses, if they invest sooner. In my opinion these bonuses not only don't cause the ICO to be successful, but also cause the ICO to fail. In some ICOs there is up to 100% bonus.

If I see that there are some people have gotten 100% bonus in pre-ICO, I don't invest in that ICO, Because they will dump their coins after crowdsale and cause the price to fall.
 Do you agree with me? What are your opinions?
I also do not like the idea of early bonuses, that makes people rush towards investing their money without taking the time to research the project and if the bonuses are very large then early investors will probably sell their coins and obtain fast profits with their bonuses.

What could be a reasonable bonus size in your opinion?
Zero, that is the only reasonable size, any size other than that creates an incentive to invest in the project to get fast profits instead of being there for the long term, of course such a project is not going to have as much attention as one with huge bonuses but it gives a more serious impression than other icos that seem to want to grab as much money as possible and as fast as they can.
member
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September 20, 2017, 03:26:39 PM
#89
I agree with you, however, I rarely find a PreICO project that rewards about 100%.
The highest prize of PreICO is about 30-60%.

It's true! I would say normally they (9 from 10 ICOs) offer smth about 30%
sr. member
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September 20, 2017, 06:19:54 AM
#88
I agree with you, however, I rarely find a PreICO project that rewards about 100%.
The highest prize of PreICO is about 30-60%.
member
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September 19, 2017, 10:05:52 PM
#87
I think in some ICOs, they give participants big bonuses because there is no any other feature which attracts investors. Such ICOs with big bonuses fail.
For those ICO offering bonuses is not a bad idea at all. This a marketing strategy to attract more investors in their ICO project. Maybe an investors should make some research before investing their hard earned money.

Too many pre-ICP/ICO projects now. This is a lot of work for reading whitepaper.
Many of them hide the hash algorithm & volume in the post. They are wasting your time that they even don't want you to know any technical indicators of coins.

You can read some good reviews to make a short list of interesting projects and after that read only a couple of whitepapers. Anyway, you should read whitepapers if you want to buy it. And regarding bonuses, it's a good strategy for the company also because it helps to make a good ecosystem and strong community of people who support the project and believe it will be successful.
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