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Oh no ooh indeed it was a terrifying revenge against Aston Villa from the gunners, Arsenal won by 2 goals to 0 against Aston Villa, the goals was scored by Leandro Trossard and Thomas partey, Arsenal revenge was intensive after remembering their loss at Villa park last season, although Aston Villa performance was not that bad considering the fact that Arsenal team wasn't an easy club to ride on, it is a good start for Arsenal this season for winning two straight matches without conceiving any goal, just as they also defeated wolves by 2 goals to 0 last week.

A lot of people underestimated us and look at Arsenal now am sure even Manchester City will be mindful of us this season i know people will be like this what Arsenal fans are always saying but believe me this season is going to be different and this is the time we are going to win the title, I have a good feeling that something is going to be distinct about this season. last season Aston Villa was a matching opponent that was given almost everyone difficulty and even stopped us from winning the title last season so now it is a clear warning that there won't be any obstacle for us this season. In the first half, I was already scared that they wouldn't be a goal, and look at the surprise Arsenal did to them during the second half. I know a lot of anti arsenal will already be happy that we are not going to win especially Chelsea and Manchester United fans, we would have given them 4:0 instead but let us reserve the goals for the next match.

Arsenal played impressively. I don't even think it was an away game for them because they completely dominated the game, despite the fact that their opponent was Aston Villa who played at their home ground. Arsenal had a pretty good rhythm and they also had pretty solid backline coordination, and the most striking thing was the performance of David Raya who performed impressively in the last 2 matches. It seems like this is the victory that Arsenal has been waiting for because Aston Villa has always made them miserable before.
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Anyways, a big congratulations to Arsenal, and yeah, this is their second win in a roll this season, and they have not conceded any goals yet, which actually beat Manchester city that played against ipswich town today and conceded 1 goal before they (Manchester city) retaliated and score 4 goal to beat their rival.
Arteta seems really serious about pursuing the EPL title this season and all can be seen from Arsenal defense which is currently very strong without conceding a goal is one of Arsenal pride. However, I am worried that this kind of performance only happens temporarily and is not consistent as often happened to Arsenal in previous seasons when they were close to Man City position but in the end could not catch up with Man City points. Arsenal is now a hot topic again after getting 2 successes with 6 points which are currently achieved, making fans very sure that Arteta is able to give Arsenal the EPL title but must be able to compete with Man City. Arteta only needs to maintain the consistency of the squad.
A very good start to the season for Arteta and Arsenal Arsenal's second win is the seriousness of Arteta and his team to hunt for the title this season perfectly, but they must remain consistent in several matches and if possible avoid wasting points in important matches, because that will be a disaster at the end of the season take lessons from the last two seasons and that is enough to be a lesson for Arteta and Arsenal, who have always been defeated by Man City in the last two seasons, so this season is the right time to prove that Arsenal is able to break Man City's record to win the title for the 3rd time in a row.
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Oh no ooh indeed it was a terrifying revenge against Aston Villa from the gunners, Arsenal won by 2 goals to 0 against Aston Villa, the goals was scored by Leandro Trossard and Thomas partey, Arsenal revenge was intensive after remembering their loss at Villa park last season, although Aston Villa performance was not that bad considering the fact that Arsenal team wasn't an easy club to ride on, it is a good start for Arsenal this season for winning two straight matches without conceiving any goal, just as they also defeated wolves by 2 goals to 0 last week.
It was great to see Arsenal avenge their defeat last season I didn't expect Arsenal to do it at Aston Villa I think it was a shame for the hosts because they couldn't score at all against Arsenal they looked struggling, Aston Villa had more shots and 3 of them were on target but couldn't break through Arsenal's defense on the other hand Arsenal who had fewer shots they were able to score 2 goals and could steal 3 points from Aston Villa.
Now Arsenal have collected 6 points from 2 matches in the EPL, I hope their performance will continue like this until the end of this season.


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Goodluck to the other teams going to Villa Park. I am not even sure Manchester City can boast of a win there this season. They will need to work their asses off. They lost there last season I think. The only reason they got a let off in the second leg was because were Emery rested some first team players.

I was surprised with the tactical set up by Emery yesterday. They nullified arsenal midfield play so their midfielders won’t be able to open up spaces to receive the ball, especially in that first half. It looked like they were hiding.

Arsenal players couldn’t attempt the typical line breaking pass they normally do even when the openings were there. Also Aston Villa didn't press and didn't play a high line. Those were the two key features of their game last season. Maybe it was what made Arsenal find a way in the second half of the game when they introduced Trossard and made a difference.

I think the major difference was that Arsenal were clinical and Aston Villa were wasteful. I think It was the other way around last season.


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In the first half Manchester United was already leading 1-0 over Brighton, and one goal for Brighton was scored by Welbeck in the 32nd minute. And that goal was the 5th goal against his former club. And I saw in that match Manchester dominated the game and created 5 shots towards the goal and 1 on target, and I am sure in the second half Manchester United can penetrate Brighton's defense and score a goal. And in the next match Manchester United will face Liverpool, and it could be that the match against Brighton is their strategy so that Liverpool cannot read it, and in the end they can turn things around with Brighton. Grin
Manchester United won the first match of Premier League and they got 3 points in that match. But in the second match, we did not see such a performance from Manchester United. Manchester United conceded a goal in the first half against Brighton and there was clearly a weakness in their defence, but when Manchester United equalized in the second half, the Red Devils fans had some hope of winning the match. But going to extra time of the match, Manchester United conceded one more goal to Brighton and there Manchester United lost full points. As it came to the very end of the match Manchester United should have focused a little more on their defense which Manchester United did not and as a result they lost the second match. If one point could be obtained in the last match, then Manchester United's position would be number three to four in the points table.

Manchester united victory in their first match of the season was good but the scores wasn't impressing because they had a lot of chances that they would've make the goals plenty though Fulham bit them in their last match and Manchester united winning against Fulham was a lucky one. Rashford performance this period is really not encouraging I mean it's poor, he barely break the defense to score  and even when he does or a pass is been given to him, he always mess up. I can still remember when Rashford was hot he can't play without scoring 1or 2 goals but I don't know what has come over him and I think his coach loves him so much, I believe if Ten hag will keep him on bench for sometime he will definitely improve so that he won't be benched next time. That's why I like Manchester city coach he doesn't look at face if your performance is not given you will be benched no matter your record. League just started let see how the next match will look like.
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I think not replacing Ten Haag last season was Man Utd's mistake. 2 games in in this season and it's clear that they have the same primary problem - lack of offensive power. An unconvincing win against Fulham and a loss to Brighton is a bad sign for a club which is supposed to be aspiring for the title.
What happened to Manchester United last season is still going to repeat itself this season. The first match which was won by Manchester United was just luck, the match would have ended in a draw, and they couldn’t win against Brighton. This season isn’t going to be an easy one for Manchester United, and even when playing against weak teams, they are going to find it very difficult to win them. If ten Hag can’t improve Manchester United’s performance this season, then it’s just better they let him go, they should get someone better than him.

They're playing against Liverpool next week. That will be a good test for them. If they don't put up a good fight, that would mean they'll probably end up in the middle of a table again.
A club that struggled to win against Fulham and couldn’t win Brighton, how do you expect them to win a club like Liverpool? I already have it in mind that it’s going to be another loss for Manchester United, so just as you said, they will end up being in the middle of the table.
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Fantastic saves from Saliba and David Raya


Yeah I have seen both, impressive work by them.  Smiley  Did you see Gabriel at the same time? He was nearly causing Aston Villa to get ahead in the first half because of making a huge mistake...

I said it before. Gabriel can be really unreliable sometimes. This is why I want to see Calafiori as well in his place in the starting eleven soon. I know he has played as LB a lot so far but can play in both positions.

By the way I couldn't watch Brighton - Manchester United live but watched the recap later. That disallowed goal because of Zirkzee's being in the wrong place at the wrong time... That could have really been the winning goal for them.  Sad

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Manchester united match yesterday was very annoying after what Brighton did to them last season they couldn't correct their mistakes in the game yesterday, though just imagine the pressure that Brighton was putting on them after 1 goal down in the first half. However, after Manchester united equalize the game 1-1 in the second half I almost concluded that Manchester united is going to won them in the extra time because of the 7 minutes that was given to them, but to my greatest surprise Brighton was able to take the lead in the die minutes what a poor performance from Manchester united prayers.
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Oh no ooh indeed it was a terrifying revenge against Aston Villa from the gunners, Arsenal won by 2 goals to 0 against Aston Villa, the goals was scored by Leandro Trossard and Thomas partey, Arsenal revenge was intensive after remembering their loss at Villa park last season, although Aston Villa performance was not that bad considering the fact that Arsenal team wasn't an easy club to ride on, it is a good start for Arsenal this season for winning two straight matches without conceiving any goal, just as they also defeated wolves by 2 goals to 0 last week.
It was great to see Arsenal avenge their defeat last season I didn't expect Arsenal to do it at Aston Villa I think it was a shame for the hosts because they couldn't score at all against Arsenal they looked struggling, Aston Villa had more shots and 3 of them were on target but couldn't break through Arsenal's defense on the other hand Arsenal who had fewer shots they were able to score 2 goals and could steal 3 points from Aston Villa.
Now Arsenal have collected 6 points from 2 matches in the EPL, I hope their performance will continue like this until the end of this season.


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Arsenal managed to avenge their defeat against Aston Villa last season, the victory achieved by Arsenal at Villa Park will be quite good capital to face their next match against Brighton next week, but I think in this match there are still many weaknesses shown by Arsenal in particular their attack line looked very difficult to can break Aston Villa defense, although in the end Arsenal won 2-0 over Aston Villa, we could see how Havertz and Martinelli were too weak in playing, Arteta strategy was the return of their victory in that match after Arteta replaced Martinelli with Trossard and it was seen that their attack had improved impressively until the match was over.
It looks like for the next match Arteta needs to reconsider playing trossard from the start of the match, with this victory many assume that Arsenal will again be a title challenger this season, but in my opinion it is still too early for us to assume that considering the many other clubs currently It has transformed by bringing in many star players and is ready to challenge for the title this season.
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I think not replacing Ten Haag last season was Man Utd's mistake. 2 games in in this season and it's clear that they have the same primary problem - lack of offensive power. An unconvincing win against Fulham and a loss to Brighton is a bad sign for a club which is supposed to be aspiring for the title.
They're playing against Liverpool next week. That will be a good test for them. If they don't put up a good fight, that would mean they'll probably end up in the middle of a table again.

A solid performance by Man City, 4-1 against Ipswich moved them to the to of the table and Haaland now leads the top scorers' table.
Tough game for Arsenal, but they managed to end up with a 2-0 win, Villa did have their chances to take the lead but were a bit out of luck.
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In the first half Manchester United was already leading 1-0 over Brighton, and one goal for Brighton was scored by Welbeck in the 32nd minute. And that goal was the 5th goal against his former club. And I saw in that match Manchester dominated the game and created 5 shots towards the goal and 1 on target, and I am sure in the second half Manchester United can penetrate Brighton's defense and score a goal. And in the next match Manchester United will face Liverpool, and it could be that the match against Brighton is their strategy so that Liverpool cannot read it, and in the end they can turn things around with Brighton. Grin
Manchester United won the first match of Premier League and they got 3 points in that match. But in the second match, we did not see such a performance from Manchester United. Manchester United conceded a goal in the first half against Brighton and there was clearly a weakness in their defence, but when Manchester United equalized in the second half, the Red Devils fans had some hope of winning the match. But going to extra time of the match, Manchester United conceded one more goal to Brighton and there Manchester United lost full points. As it came to the very end of the match Manchester United should have focused a little more on their defense which Manchester United did not and as a result they lost the second match. If one point could be obtained in the last match, then Manchester United's position would be number three to four in the points table.
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Anyways, a big congratulations to Arsenal, and yeah, this is their second win in a roll this season, and they have not conceded any goals yet, which actually beat Manchester city that played against ipswich town today and conceded 1 goal before they (Manchester city) retaliated and score 4 goal to beat their rival.
Arteta seems really serious about pursuing the EPL title this season and all can be seen from Arsenal defense which is currently very strong without conceding a goal is one of Arsenal pride. However, I am worried that this kind of performance only happens temporarily and is not consistent as often happened to Arsenal in previous seasons when they were close to Man City position but in the end could not catch up with Man City points. Arsenal is now a hot topic again after getting 2 successes with 6 points which are currently achieved, making fans very sure that Arteta is able to give Arsenal the EPL title but must be able to compete with Man City. Arteta only needs to maintain the consistency of the squad.
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Also, the decision to replace Bruno with Tominay was terrible. I'd prefer to see Bruno back in his actual position. It's bad to see how Bruno Fernandes contributed nothing when he was placed as a striker. Lastly, i hope ten Hag brings him back to his actual position, and I'd prefer Rashford to play as ST if we need an urgent one instead of Bruno.

Good God! That was terrible. Even a juvenile could see that was a wrong decision to made by Erik ten Hag. If you saw that game, you'd see that the midfied lacked energy and Kobbie Mainoo was already booked. Erik ten Hag should have substituted brought in Scott MC Tominay for Kobbie Mainoo and return Bruno Fernandez back to him number 10 role.

Wrong selections from the first half and wrong decisions from the manager lead to that lose. He has taken responsibility for that yesterday. Hopefully he shapes well against Liverpool otherwise, the media will be banging hard on him.

Can they stop playing Marcus Rashford and Harry Maguire? Marcus Rashford should grow up, hes no longer 21 or 23 he's gonna be bloody 27 for goodness sake soon. Harry Maguire with the highest pay as a defender and he cannot do a proper defensive job for Manchester United.

That's to say Manchester United don't have be better 11 to go into any game at the moment, like they're managing these guys you mentioned. The case of Rashford he can't perform like he used to, those runs are no longer effective and I can't see him fitting in any position that would be more productive for Man UTD, he's not improving, Antony and Garnacho are even trying this time around than him.
When you see those changes ETH made you'd understand that he doesn't have a clue of what he was doing at that moment, removing Bruno wasn't the best and I wonder why is McTominay not starting ahead of Kobbie Mainoo, this guy is not suppose to be benching Scott in any way and I hate when England over hype their own talking about Mainoo, he is losing it. Scott has been on the bench since the beginning of the since and I think is time ETH rotate his starting eleven if not going against Liverpool with these same guys would be a disaster for Manchester United.
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Oh no ooh indeed it was a terrifying revenge against Aston Villa from the gunners, Arsenal won by 2 goals to 0 against Aston Villa, the goals was scored by Leandro Trossard and Thomas partey, Arsenal revenge was intensive after remembering their loss at Villa park last season, although Aston Villa performance was not that bad considering the fact that Arsenal team wasn't an easy club to ride on, it is a good start for Arsenal this season for winning two straight matches without conceiving any goal, just as they also defeated wolves by 2 goals to 0 last week.
It was great to see Arsenal avenge their defeat last season I didn't expect Arsenal to do it at Aston Villa I think it was a shame for the hosts because they couldn't score at all against Arsenal they looked struggling, Aston Villa had more shots and 3 of them were on target but couldn't break through Arsenal's defense on the other hand Arsenal who had fewer shots they were able to score 2 goals and could steal 3 points from Aston Villa.
Now Arsenal have collected 6 points from 2 matches in the EPL, I hope their performance will continue like this until the end of this season.


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Also, the decision to replace Bruno with Tominay was terrible. I'd prefer to see Bruno back in his actual position. It's bad to see how Bruno Fernandes contributed nothing when he was placed as a striker. Lastly, i hope ten Hag brings him back to his actual position, and I'd prefer Rashford to play as ST if we need an urgent one instead of Bruno.

Good God! That was terrible. Even a juvenile could see that was a wrong decision to made by Erik ten Hag. If you saw that game, you'd see that the midfied lacked energy and Kobbie Mainoo was already booked. Erik ten Hag should have substituted brought in Scott MC Tominay for Kobbie Mainoo and return Bruno Fernandez back to him number 10 role.

Wrong selections from the first half and wrong decisions from the manager lead to that lose. He has taken responsibility for that yesterday. Hopefully he shapes well against Liverpool otherwise, the media will be banging hard on him.

Can they stop playing Marcus Rashford and Harry Maguire? Marcus Rashford should grow up, hes no longer 21 or 23 he's gonna be bloody 27 for goodness sake soon. Harry Maguire with the highest pay as a defender and he cannot do a proper defensive job for Manchester United.
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Brighton really played amazingly in the second half, even though Diallo managed to make the score 1-1 again, it did not dampen the spirits of the Brighton players. Garnacho managed to score a goal in the 70th minute, but the referee disallowed it because his shot hit Joshua Zirkzee foot who was in an offside position. Brighton's winning goal was scored by Joao Pedro in the 90+5 minute, Manchester United lost dramatically 2-1 in this match.

Manchester United recent results are a warning sign for Ten Hag, the EPL has just entered its second week but Manchester United has already suffered its first defeat this season. If it continues like this, there is very little chance for Manchester United to finish in a better position at the end of the season.


Because when kick off starts to see Bruno Fernandes in the striker's position is quite funny Grin In my opinion to finish in the top 5 is quite difficult.

There's nothing surprising about seeing Bruno Fernandes as a striker. This is because Ten hag did like to do various experiments for his club. Or it's probably Zirkzee who has a problem with his fitness; then, Ten Hag decided to put him in the second half instead of giving him a chance to play full time.

Also, the decision to replace Bruno with Tominay was terrible. I'd prefer to see Bruno back in his actual position. It's bad to see how Bruno Fernandes contributed nothing when he was placed as a striker. Lastly, i hope ten Hag brings him back to his actual position, and I'd prefer Rashford to play as ST if we need an urgent one instead of Bruno.
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The defeat suffered by Manchester United of course surprised many people but not for me, because in the last few seasons Brighton has been a team that often gives Ten Hag nightmares,
At first I wanted to critise Manchester united more but after seeing that on their 15 meetings, Brighton has 7 wins and Manchester united 8 wins without draw. So this is quite understandable but that doesn't mean they don't deserve much criticism. To me the first goal they conceded  was disappointing to the player who was at the defense when Welbeck did tip the ball to the goal, I didn't see the other goal ls and I can't say any other players were at fault also.


although currently Ten Hag has brought in several new players, but the defeat against Brighton indicates that They are still not strong enough and compact enough, defense was previously Manchester United main problem, but if we look at today match, seem Manchester United has not fixed this problem even though they have brought De Light and Mazraoui into their squad.
While after these new signing I didn't expect Manchester united to be having difficulty against Brighton this season, Ten Hag did spoke before (probably before the league started) that this new signings adapted to the club, I guessed they need s little more time though Mazraoui did well providing an assist today.

Btw, I saw McTominay played in that match, Isn't it reported that he is currently in the process of moving to Napoli?
Jadon Sancho isn't even in the Manchester United squad, what this indicate he will leave for Juventus?
McTominay might still be on his way out if any club van meet Manchester united asking fee while Jadon Sancho might just be on his way out probably through loan if Manchester united fee is unable to be meet because this is the reason both players are still a Manchester united players after interest from other clubs
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Oh no ooh indeed it was a terrifying revenge against Aston Villa from the gunners, Arsenal won by 2 goals to 0 against Aston Villa, the goals was scored by Leandro Trossard and Thomas partey, Arsenal revenge was intensive after remembering their loss at Villa park last season, although Aston Villa performance was not that bad considering the fact that Arsenal team wasn't an easy club to ride on, it is a good start for Arsenal this season for winning two straight matches without conceiving any goal, just as they also defeated wolves by 2 goals to 0 last week.
😂 When you said Arsenal's revenge was intensive after remembering their loss at villa Park last season, that cracked me up, like did you speak with Arsenal and they told you that their win against Aston Villa today was a retaliation for their loss to them at Villa park last season? 😁

Anyways, a big congratulations to Arsenal, and yeah, this is their second win in a roll this season, and they have not conceded any goals yet, which actually beat Manchester city that played against ipswich town today and conceded 1 goal before they (Manchester city) retaliated and score 4 goal to beat their rival.

Matches played today where fantastic, Aston Villa played a good game against Arsenal though, but then, the Arsenal players were too determined to win the match, and I am happy that their hardwork payed off for them at last.
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Oh no ooh indeed it was a terrifying revenge against Aston Villa from the gunners, Arsenal won by 2 goals to 0 against Aston Villa, the goals was scored by Leandro Trossard and Thomas partey, Arsenal revenge was intensive after remembering their loss at Villa park last season, although Aston Villa performance was not that bad considering the fact that Arsenal team wasn't an easy club to ride on, it is a good start for Arsenal this season for winning two straight matches without conceiving any goal, just as they also defeated wolves by 2 goals to 0 last week.

A lot of people underestimated us and look at Arsenal now am sure even Manchester City will be mindful of us this season i know people will be like this what Arsenal fans are always saying but believe me this season is going to be different and this is the time we are going to win the title, I have a good feeling that something is going to be distinct about this season. last season Aston Villa was a matching opponent that was given almost everyone difficulty and even stopped us from winning the title last season so now it is a clear warning that there won't be any obstacle for us this season. In the first half, I was already scared that they wouldn't be a goal, and look at the surprise Arsenal did to them during the second half. I know a lot of anti arsenal will already be happy that we are not going to win especially Chelsea and Manchester United fans, we would have given them 4:0 instead but let us reserve the goals for the next match.
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Oh no ooh indeed it was a terrifying revenge against Aston Villa from the gunners, Arsenal won by 2 goals to 0 against Aston Villa, the goals was scored by Leandro Trossard and Thomas partey, Arsenal revenge was intensive after remembering their loss at Villa park last season, although Aston Villa performance was not that bad considering the fact that Arsenal team wasn't an easy club to ride on, it is a good start for Arsenal this season for winning two straight matches without conceiving any goal, just as they also defeated wolves by 2 goals to 0 last week.
Previously Aston Villa was the team that continued to prevent Arsenal to be championship but today Arsenal has succeeded in avenging the defeat they suffered last season, Since the match started, Arsenal immediately tried to suppress Aston Villa defense, but the solidity of Aston Villa's defense and also Arsenal poor finishing made both teams had to end the first half with a score of 0-0, Aston Villa suffered a defeat in that match but actually the game shown by Aston Villa so extraordinary that it made Arsenal defense and David Raya work very hard to protect their goal from being conceder , losing 2-0 is clearly a bad result but not with Aston Villa's appearance and performance in that match, if I could choose the two best players in today match then I would choose Raya and saliba a heroes from Arsenal victory.

Fantastic saves from Saliba and David Raya



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Arsenal are playing terrible now. I mean especially in the 2nd half, things have got worse. Aston Villa are playing way better by creating more goal chances. But Arsenal still managed to score somehow with a very low xG.  Grin

There are still around 15 minutes left and it is surely going to be difficult to maintain the advantage. No matter Arsenal win or not, one thing is certain that this performance needs to be improved way much. They look really desperate. I know it is a tough away game but still you know... I want to see them champions this season. The road going to the trophy is pretty bumpy and they need to put more effort every time.

EDIT: Arsenal have just scored 2 haha. It is unbelievable, this really shows once again football is not only a game of statistics.  Grin

Although at first I also doubted Arsenal because Aston Villa is clearly not an easy opponent and moreover Aston Villa is also playing at home. Also, considering Aston Villa managed to beat Arsenal last season, it made me quite hesitant to bet on Arsenal to win. Because I think Aston Villa is certainly capable of winning or maybe just a draw but with both teams to score goals. But in fact, Aston Villa really got a deadlock in this match, even though in fact Aston Villa also played well considering the existing statistics.

But yes, because I am also still quite sure that Arsenal is still able to compete strongly in the fight for the trophy. Thus, I personally still choose Arsenal to win and getting results like this certainly makes me happy too. Because Arteta also managed to make Arsenal have good performance and trends at the beginning of this season. Of course, results like this will be a good start for Arsenal to be in the fight for the Premier League trophy this season.
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