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The match has ended and Manchester United were a disagree again allowing Tottenham Hotspur to score you 3 goals at home without having any response. Manchester United
are a finished club and I don't think there's going to be any comeback from this with the current manager still being incharge. Things need to change from the manager resigning or getting fired and someone with a vision gets hired. There are many coaches out of job that can do better than what Erik ten Hag is doing. Manchester United didn't look like themselves today and they were second best in everything. The red card isn't an excuse to play this poorly as they weren't just worth watching.
I just hear the song "you're getting sack in the morning" along with the match, which mean Ten Hag's position is currently vulnerable today. The official must think to replace the right coach for MU today if they want fans still come to old traford. From beginning this session Ten Hag can't mix the right strategy for MU even have some best player in his position. They have fragile defender and Many holes on center field, so when I look in forward, they have rashford and Zirkzee, but both are blunt, they can't improvise when get the ball. So why wait so long for looking a new coach?

The urge for ten hag to be sacked has actually emerged since the middle of last season where ten hag also failed to bring Manchester United to qualify for the Champions League, although previously Manchester United had evaluated ten hag's performance but for some reason they still retained ten hag as a coach, I think since the arrival of ten hag actually Manchester United have spent a lot of money to buy a lot of good players,  Zirkzee, Anthony, De Light, and also several other players he bought were the best players at their previous club, but the strange thing is that when the player was recruited by Manchester United, their performance actually declined, so we can indeed say that if Ten Hag game strategy and training are questionable at the moment?
I think if indeed the current management cares about their team, of course the change of coach should be the solution at this time.
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Yesterday we saw some good matches in the English league. Manchester City drew 1-1 away to Newcastle. City continued to lose points in matches without Rodri and got their 2nd draw in the league. After leading the first half with Gvardiol's goal, City drew 1-1 with a goal from a penalty in the second half. City were the more active side in the match but struggled to find goals. Liverpool managed to take the lead with the win this week. Liverpool, who reached 15 points after a 2-1 win away to Wolverhampton, closed the week as the leader.
Actually Man City played very aggressively by taking many shots and 6 of them were on target but only 1 was successfully converted into a goal Newcastle's defense was very strong their goalkeeper was able to make 5 saves made by Man City players so they did try hard not to lose points a draw is not a bad result for both teams this is a fair result for them even though Man City had to be shifted to 2nd place temporarily but Man City can still catch up on the points they failed to get maybe in the upcoming matches they will come back if Liverpool are careless and lose some points.
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The match has ended and Manchester United were a disagree again allowing Tottenham Hotspur to score you 3 goals at home without having any response. Manchester United
are a finished club and I don't think there's going to be any comeback from this with the current manager still being incharge. Things need to change from the manager resigning or getting fired and someone with a vision gets hired. There are many coaches out of job that can do better than what Erik ten Hag is doing. Manchester United didn't look like themselves today and they were second best in everything. The red card isn't an excuse to play this poorly as they weren't just worth watching.
I just hear the song "you're getting sack in the morning" along with the match, which mean Ten Hag's position is currently vulnerable today. The official must think to replace the right coach for MU today if they want fans still come to old traford. From beginning this session Ten Hag can't mix the right strategy for MU even have some best player in his position. They have fragile defender and Many holes on center field, so when I look in forward, they have rashford and Zirkzee, but both are blunt, they can't improvise when get the ball. So why wait so long for looking a new coach?
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The newly promoted Ipswich town is performing just very well in the England premier league. their game between Aston villa have just ended with a 2-2 score draw it was indeed an excellent performance from Ipswich town players, because before the kickoff I was thinking that it will going to be a most win for Aston villa due their good performance in the premier league but though Ipswich town was able to hold them full time draw, watching the game was indeed an interesting one for me.
Well, luck was ran out for Aston Villa in this game. They dropped two points. They just were very poor in their gameplay. Their top and bottom were so sloppy in this game. They were very open at the back. This made them vulnerable to counterattacks. They were very imbalanced by not having a natural RB. Their players often give the ball away to their opponents.

Also, it's hard to figure out who was the best player in that game. Anyone who plays below their average may pay for it in the next games if they keep it up.
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Bruno Fernandes' red card changed everything for Manchester United, and Tottenham's chances of securing a win increased from that point on. Tottenham dominate games when they have a man advantage, so it was natural for Manchester United to come under pressure throughout the second half.
Of course. After the red card got by Bruno Fernandes, Man United played with 10 players only. Man United also lost a player who becomes the mastermind of Man United attacking, Bruno Fernandes is surely irreplaceable. When Bruno Fernandes isn't on the lineup, Man United attack is unorganized. I can understand if Man United couldn't keep up with Tottenham's game. Meanwhile Tottenham becomes more confident and they fully dominated the match. So, it is reasonable if they could win with 3 goals.

Due to the defeat, Manchester United are still struggling in 12th position with 7 points from 6 matches. Manchester United also has the potential to drop to 13th position if Bournemouth wins against Southampton in the next match, so Manchester United certainly need to regret their defeat today. While Chelsea have improved recently with three consecutive wins, this is certainly good after a long time.
True. Man United is among the mediocre team now. Seeing Man United is in 12th place, I remembered that Chelsea was in the position in season 2022-2023. At that time, Man United was in the top 3 (UCL zone). But now, Chelsea is in the UCL zone (top 4), meanwhile Man United is in 12th place.  Grin

Man United seems to drop to 13th place. Bournemouth probably beats Southampton easily, Southampton performed very poor in this season. I don't see a chance that Southampton gets point in this match. So, we can assume Man United to drop again to a worse position on the table.

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Other match that is being played today between Manchester United vs Tottenham is quite exciting, playing at Old Trafford is actually currently Manchester United is in a position to fall behind 1 - 0 over Tottenham, when the match starts, Manchester United immediately tried to attack the Tottenham but unfortunately for they were caught off guard when a quick counterattack built by van de Ven,  The pace shown by Van de Ven was quite fantastic and difficult to intercept by the Manchester defender who was finally able to provide an accurate pass by Johnson scorijg forTottenham to lead 1-0 over manchester united meanwhile .


The match has ended and Manchester United were a disagree again allowing Tottenham Hotspur to score you 3 goals at home without having any response. Manchester United are a finished club and I don't think there's going to be any comeback from this with the current manager still being incharge. Things need to change from the manager resigning or getting fired and someone with a vision gets hired. There are many coaches out of job that can do better than what Erik ten Hag is doing. Manchester United didn't look like themselves today and they were second best in everything. The red card isn't an excuse to play this poorly as they weren't just worth watching.

I was shocked today to see how far MU has fallen. It's really bMU. I know David Moyes had some bad games in the early days. Solskjaer, Van Gaal, Mourinho and Ralf Rangnick had some bad games. But today was the day I felt the team sank too far.
Even if Bruno Fernandes had not been red-carded, MU would not have been able to do anything against Tottenham. In fact, even before Bruno was sent off, Tottenham were leading MU. I believe that even with 11 players, MU will still have difficulty turning the game around against Spurs. Spurs played overwhelmingly and had victory in hand. And coach Ten Hag is currently facing a great risk of being fired by Man United. At this time, the MU Board of Directors should also start looking for a candidate to replace Ten Hag.
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The newly promoted Ipswich town is performing just very well in the England premier league. their game between Aston villa have just ended with a 2-2 score draw it was indeed an excellent performance from Ipswich town players, because before the kickoff I was thinking that it will going to be a most win for Aston villa due their good performance in the premier league but though Ipswich town was able to hold them full time draw, watching the game was indeed an interesting one for me.

Ipswich Town are on a run of draws, they don't seem to have much luck when it comes to winning games, in the last 5 games they haven't managed to get at least 1 win, if they can improve their defense to the point of not conceding a goal, then they can get a win, their next opponent will be West Ham, who are not doing well this season, this will be a good opportunity for Ipswich Town to win and get away from the teams that are in the relegation zone.



Once again the Manchester United coach gave a motivating speech

Erik ten Hag:There is always a new day”.

I told the guys in the dressing room: come on. Tomorrow, a new day. We will bounce back, I’m sure”.

source: https://x.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1840481896263831737

Manchester United Current Position: 12

6 games, 2 wins, 1 draw, 3 losses

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There are teams like Aston Villa that don't have as much money as Manchester United, but they are in a better position.
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To be honest, I wasn't expecting newly promoted side Ipswich Town to get a draw in their game against Aston Villa today after Unai Emery's side took the lead through Ollie Watkins' header.  Ipswich I think are now gathering enough momentum and the resilience spirit that's needed to survive in the English Premier League. Getting a draw against one of the top five teams in the league table is a good result for Ipswich and I think they'll continue  improve in games to come.
Personally I liked that Ipswich Town got this draw and it tasted like a victory because it gives oxygen to these types of teams, that sometimes they don't even believe it, this is good for their mentality and so that they can continue doing things well, this is to get it into their heads that not only against Aston Villa but against any team that can do it, it's time for these teams to show why they are now in the 1st Division, we see the same stories all the time, this time the level is higher, the big name teams are there, it's time for someone like Ipswich Town to stand up tough like they did and win even more.



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Aston Villa endured a miserable afternoon as they dropped valuable points away at Ipswich Town on Sunday at Portman Road.

Unai Emery’s side went into the match knowing that three points would take them into second place, level with leaders Liverpool.

But they were 1-0 down early on after abject defending from the backline, but in next to no time, Aston Villa showcased their comeback skills.

Morgan Rogers pounced on a poor clearance to score his first Premier League goal of the season, before Ollie Watkins was scoring again and putting his side into the lead.

You thought Villa should have controlled the game from then on, but they didn’t and deservedly conceded again in the second half.

Source: https://www.astonvilla.news/match-coverage/paul-scholes-amazed-by-aston-villa-player-against-ipswich-despite-2-2-draw/
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Other match that is being played today between Manchester United vs Tottenham is quite exciting, playing at Old Trafford is actually currently Manchester United is in a position to fall behind 1 - 0 over Tottenham, when the match starts, Manchester United immediately tried to attack the Tottenham but unfortunately for they were caught off guard when a quick counterattack built by van de Ven,  The pace shown by Van de Ven was quite fantastic and difficult to intercept by the Manchester defender who was finally able to provide an accurate pass by Johnson scorijg forTottenham to lead 1-0 over manchester united meanwhile .


The match has ended and Manchester United were a disagree again allowing Tottenham Hotspur to score you 3 goals at home without having any response. Manchester United are a finished club and I don't think there's going to be any comeback from this with the current manager still being incharge. Things need to change from the manager resigning or getting fired and someone with a vision gets hired. There are many coaches out of job that can do better than what Erik ten Hag is doing. Manchester United didn't look like themselves today and they were second best in everything. The red card isn't an excuse to play this poorly as they weren't just worth watching.
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It looks like Man United is really finished tonight, and I don't see them having a chance to win this game. Even just to equalize the score seems very difficult. They conceded a goal in the first half, and it was made worse when Bruno Fernandes received a red card for the foul he committed. Now the second half is underway, but it didn't take long for Tottenham to extend their lead. It was a shame Martinez had to make that mistake and because of that, they had to concede another goal.
Bruno Fernandes' red card changed everything for Manchester United, and Tottenham's chances of securing a win increased from that point on. Tottenham dominate games when they have a man advantage, so it was natural for Manchester United to come under pressure throughout the second half.

Due to the defeat, Manchester United are still struggling in 12th position with 7 points from 6 matches. Manchester United also has the potential to drop to 13th position if Bournemouth wins against Southampton in the next match, so Manchester United certainly need to regret their defeat today. While Chelsea have improved recently with three consecutive wins, this is certainly good after a long time.

I used to defend Erik Ten Hag a lot when people criticise his tactics but after watching Manchester United's match against Twente and with Tottenham today I've come to a conclusion that Erik Ten Hag is leading Manchester United nowhere this season. Despite that he's won two trophies for Manchester United it doesn't justify that the club has no playing pattern nor good strategy since he came in and I'm still wondering how he was able to win those two trophies with such pattern of football. Bruno Fernandes have been out of form in about 3 matches now and though the red card was a wrong call by the referee cause he slipped while trying to defend the ball and wasn't intentional but I'm happy he'll miss next match so another player could be tried in that position, if Erik Ten Hag is wise enough he'll start Mason Mount over Eriksen against Aston Villa and I think if he loses against Aston Villa and Porto then there's a possibility of the board considering to sack him immediately.
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It looks like Man United is really finished tonight, and I don't see them having a chance to win this game. Even just to equalize the score seems very difficult. They conceded a goal in the first half, and it was made worse when Bruno Fernandes received a red card for the foul he committed. Now the second half is underway, but it didn't take long for Tottenham to extend their lead. It was a shame Martinez had to make that mistake and because of that, they had to concede another goal.
Bruno Fernandes' red card changed everything for Manchester United, and Tottenham's chances of securing a win increased from that point on. Tottenham dominate games when they have a man advantage, so it was natural for Manchester United to come under pressure throughout the second half.

Due to the defeat, Manchester United are still struggling in 12th position with 7 points from 6 matches. Manchester United also has the potential to drop to 13th position if Bournemouth wins against Southampton in the next match, so Manchester United certainly need to regret their defeat today. While Chelsea have improved recently with three consecutive wins, this is certainly good after a long time.
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The newly promoted Ipswich town is performing just very well in the England premier league. their game between Aston villa have just ended with a 2-2 score draw it was indeed an excellent performance from Ipswich town players
Ipswich played well in the match, seriously, I underestimated them before the match started. I was thinking the match was going to be an easy win for Aston Villa, but things didn’t just go the way I predicted. Ipswich played well in the match, and they were able to get a draw in the match. Among all the teams that got promoted to the Premier League this season, Ipswich is the only club that I see are trying to stay in the Premier League. I won’t be surprised if some of the clubs that got promoted to the Premier League this season get relegated back, but I think Ipswich should be able to stay, and I am expecting improvement in their performance as they keep on playing.

After Aston villa played draw today, I am sure Aston Villa will try to improve their performance in their next match, because they will want to do everything possible to win the match, and they will be playing against Manchester United, which have been performing poorly, so Aston Villa should be able to get their three points in their next match.
To be honest, I wasn't expecting newly promoted side Ipswich Town to get a draw in their game against Aston Villa today after Unai Emery's side took the lead through Ollie Watkins' header.  Ipswich I think are now gathering enough momentum and the resilience spirit that's needed to survive in the English Premier League. Getting a draw against one of the top five teams in the league table is a good result for Ipswich and I think they'll continue  improve in games to come.
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The newly promoted Ipswich town is performing just very well in the England premier league. their game between Aston villa have just ended with a 2-2 score draw it was indeed an excellent performance from Ipswich town players, because before the kickoff I was thinking that it will going to be a most win for Aston villa due their good performance in the premier league but though Ipswich town was able to hold them full time draw, watching the game was indeed an interesting one for me.
I also noticed Ipswich is slowly improving even though they are not favored to be the winner in the English premier league, but I think they are quite capable of competing with heavy opponents in the English premier league, for their experience they are quite good even though getting a win is very difficult for them but getting a draw is much better than getting a loss, Liam Delap became a hero for Ipswich because he scored a goal for a draw against Aston Villa, so far the thing that should be improved is the defense, because if you look at their attack line it is good enough to be able to produce goals, it's just that the defense makes them helpless and the enemy can always penetrate their defense.
Ipswich has drawn in their last five matches, prove of improvement but despite they still find it difficult to win their games which could alter the possibility of going back to relegation. From position 15th down to the 20th team on the table, all the teams there are not having a decent start of the season which affects them and raises a competition of who will try best to escape relegation.

Talking about facing heavy opponents, how ready are they to face clubs typically in the top four right now. A draw all out the season with no win as of now might not save them as expected, four upcoming matches in a row are not heavy opponents, likely they will be getting their first win for the season from any one of the clubs.

Ipswich showed an improvement in their form by holding Fulham, Brighton and Aston Villa. All of the aforementioned are sitting within the top ten of the table. As those draws suggested resilience with strong teams, but their failure to win the match against Southampton was a big disappointment.

It should have been a golden opportunity for Ipswich to pick up three points by playing Southampton, who currently sit at the foot of the table. Unfortunately, Ipswich did not have a great game in that match and almost ended up losing, had it not been for Sam Morsy's goal in the 95th minute. Even with the draw, it left them because of the manner in which they obtained the results, it exuded inconsistency in taking chances against weaker teams. Ipswich will have to do much better than that in their next matches if they are to battle clear of the drop zone.
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The newly promoted Ipswich town is performing just very well in the England premier league. their game between Aston villa have just ended with a 2-2 score draw it was indeed an excellent performance from Ipswich town players
Ipswich played well in the match, seriously, I underestimated them before the match started. I was thinking the match was going to be an easy win for Aston Villa, but things didn’t just go the way I predicted. Ipswich played well in the match, and they were able to get a draw in the match. Among all the teams that got promoted to the Premier League this season, Ipswich is the only club that I see are trying to stay in the Premier League. I won’t be surprised if some of the clubs that got promoted to the Premier League this season get relegated back, but I think Ipswich should be able to stay, and I am expecting improvement in their performance as they keep on playing.

After Aston villa played draw today, I am sure Aston Villa will try to improve their performance in their next match, because they will want to do everything possible to win the match, and they will be playing against Manchester United, which have been performing poorly, so Aston Villa should be able to get their three points in their next match.
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The newly promoted Ipswich town is performing just very well in the England premier league. their game between Aston villa have just ended with a 2-2 score draw it was indeed an excellent performance from Ipswich town players, because before the kickoff I was thinking that it will going to be a most win for Aston villa due their good performance in the premier league but though Ipswich town was able to hold them full time draw, watching the game was indeed an interesting one for me.

Leicester City is also doing very well as one of the promoted team even though they lost their yesterday game against Arsenal with 4:2 and has been scoring goals in all most all their matches since the beginning of this season. Am so disappointed at Manchester United conceiving 3 goals against Tottenham Hotspur without rely, Leicester City played 1: 1 draw against Tottenham Hotspur at the first round of the season, I was expecting a better performances from Manchester United against Tottenham Hotspur, Erik ten Hag must be very confused right now.
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The newly promoted Ipswich town is performing just very well in the England premier league. their game between Aston villa have just ended with a 2-2 score draw it was indeed an excellent performance from Ipswich town players, because before the kickoff I was thinking that it will going to be a most win for Aston villa due their good performance in the premier league but though Ipswich town was able to hold them full time draw, watching the game was indeed an interesting one for me.
I also noticed Ipswich is slowly improving even though they are not favored to be the winner in the English premier league, but I think they are quite capable of competing with heavy opponents in the English premier league, for their experience they are quite good even though getting a win is very difficult for them but getting a draw is much better than getting a loss, Liam Delap became a hero for Ipswich because he scored a goal for a draw against Aston Villa, so far the thing that should be improved is the defense, because if you look at their attack line it is good enough to be able to produce goals, it's just that the defense makes them helpless and the enemy can always penetrate their defense.
Ipswich has drawn in their last five matches, prove of improvement but despite they still find it difficult to win their games which could alter the possibility of going back to relegation. From position 15th down to the 20th team on the table, all the teams there are not having a decent start of the season which affects them and raises a competition of who will try best to escape relegation.

Talking about facing heavy opponents, how ready are they to face clubs typically in the top four right now. A draw all out the season with no win as of now might not save them as expected, four upcoming matches in a row are not heavy opponents, likely they will be getting their first win for the season from any one of the clubs.
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The newly promoted Ipswich town is performing just very well in the England premier league. their game between Aston villa have just ended with a 2-2 score draw it was indeed an excellent performance from Ipswich town players, because before the kickoff I was thinking that it will going to be a most win for Aston villa due their good performance in the premier league but though Ipswich town was able to hold them full time draw, watching the game was indeed an interesting one for me.
I also noticed Ipswich is slowly improving even though they are not favored to be the winner in the English premier league, but I think they are quite capable of competing with heavy opponents in the English premier league, for their experience they are quite good even though getting a win is very difficult for them but getting a draw is much better than getting a loss, Liam Delap became a hero for Ipswich because he scored a goal for a draw against Aston Villa, so far the thing that should be improved is the defense, because if you look at their attack line it is good enough to be able to produce goals, it's just that the defense makes them helpless and the enemy can always penetrate their defense.
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The newly promoted Ipswich town is performing just very well in the England premier league. their game between Aston villa have just ended with a 2-2 score draw it was indeed an excellent performance from Ipswich town players, because before the kickoff I was thinking that it will going to be a most win for Aston villa due their good performance in the premier league but though Ipswich town was able to hold them full time draw, watching the game was indeed an interesting one for me.
Forcing 4 teams to draw in 4 consecutive matches is Ipswich Town's best achievement so far in the Premier League since being promoted. Ipswich Town have not won a game in their first 6 weeks in the Premier League, but drawing against Fulham, Brighton, Southampton and Aston Villa is something they can be proud of.

Fulham, Aston Villa and Brighton are stronger teams than Ipswich Town, so that is the reason why they need to be proud even though they only took 1 point from that match. To survive in the Premier League, of course Ipswich Town need to win games and avoid the relegation zone, so they still need to improve instead of being satisfied with draws in many of their matches.
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Manchester City have been performing at a very low level for the last 3 seasons and have managed to become champions thanks to Arsenal and Liverpool, who have been losing games against very weak teams in the last few rounds. However, if Liverpool and Arsenal manage to remain consistent until the last round, then I think Manchester City would not become champions. As I am a Liverpool fan, I am rooting for Liverpool. I hope that this season we win the Premier League. So far, Liverpool is the team with the best defense. They have conceded 2 goals in 6 games, and most of the time the Premier League champion has a good defense.

For me it will be easy thing to say.
If Manchester city will have no penalization during the winter they will be the champions.
If they will end with some penalty, it will be a fight between Arsenal and Liverpool, with an advantage for Liverpool imho.

Everything depends what will happen to them, mentally it is not easy to play when you have an * near your name in the leader-board.
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It looks like Man United is really finished tonight, and I don't see them having a chance to win this game. Even just to equalize the score seems very difficult. They conceded a goal in the first half, and it was made worse when Bruno Fernandes received a red card for the foul he committed. Now the second half is underway, but it didn't take long for Tottenham to extend their lead. It was a shame Martinez had to make that mistake and because of that, they had to concede another goal.

Manchester United really doesn't have any excuse for this performance. They can't hide behind that red card because they were already performing horribly...

It is a fully deserved win for Tottenham after all that effort. Solanke has recovered and returned amazingly. 3 goals and 1 assist in his last 5 games, very impressive!  Grin

Erik ten Hag continues to say the same things but he has really nothing else to do. Even he must be fed up with getting poor results this often. Now what? Will the board continue with him throughout the season?  Huh
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