Topic: ⚽ Premier League 2023/2024 Discussion Thread ⚽ - page 143. (Read 59142 times)

Yes, Haaland played a nice game, and he deserves all it takes because his extraordinary strength is just making me believe that he will do more for Manchester City this season than next season, but still, when he meets up with other bigger teams, I expect to see more than this because this season is filled with challenges for many teams because we have higher expectations on them because when we have a team like Arsenal that wants to get into the Premier League trouble with everything they can do, we just have to wait and see the outcome of every team in this season. 

Defeating Manchester united is a thumbs up for Liverpool but not what should be relied on or be used to judge how good the team could do when the season actually kicks off as these are just pre-season friendlies with some of the players are still new to the squad and still trying to blend and understand the style of play.
Despite winning against arsenal and Manchester united it would be an added advantage to the Liverpool tram that they get to sign a few players to the club who could cover for injury periods because for a team that's playing in the champions league and EPL making for available options is very important to maintain relevance within the season.

Yes Liverpool have always be a very difficult club to play against according to some of their opponents, and Manchester United are just coming back in line gradually, Liverpool will definitely win without stress because of the condition that Manchester is currently. Am not surprised that Liverpool have not participated in the transfer window and am sure that Liverpool don't need to bring anyone in for them to perform well. What happened last season is not something that is new that should surprise people this preseason. Let's leave that of Chelsea aside Chelsea also can not not win Manchester City. Since the season will start this month and arsenal and Manchester city are the concern for the premier league then we don't know yet if Liverpool will also pick this season just the way they did last season.

3 friendly matches conducted by Liverpool show that it looks like Slot is still quite tactical and reliable enough in concocting tactics for him to apply in the EPL next season.
The performance is increasingly visible for Liverpool that they know what to do in a match even with a new coach who still needs an adaptation process to support his performance.
3 matches passed with a win as they managed to get wins against Betis and Arsenal albeit with a thin score but doing a match with Manchester United seems like they are getting more comfortable with the plan that Slot wants for his squad on the field.

On the contrary, this could be a blow for Manchester United. Although it cannot be denied that friendly matches are sometimes more towards trying but still losing to Liverpool is a different situation because there is prestige that should be maintained and they lost badly is sure to make their mentality a little down in this case.

No, precisely for now I still don't feel that Enzo has done his job well. Although it is undeniable that it is still too soon when considering Enzo is unable to make Chelsea's performance better but at least we must be aware that friendly matches can also be used as an early benchmark for how their performance will be predicted next season and in the record of friendly matches that Chelsea did we can see that Enzo is still unable to organize a good scheme and plan for Chelsea at this time.

Management policies can indeed affect performance and the race for trophies but in the end there are people who can be held accountable when the season is underway, namely the coach's job, although not everything must refer to the coach but still when we talk about the performance of a club then the coach will be in control of it so that when a club fails then it is clear that the coach's scheme is not good enough who cannot maintain consistency even though previously there was a role from management who was responsible for not being able to find a suitable coach for the club they had.

First of all, having a lot of players - even if they are good players does not guarantee a ticket to success. A club succeeding - meaning, winning trophies, and consistently finishing top 4 is not as easy as it may be thought of. A lot of people think, more spending equals more success - no, that is definitely not true.

Yes, Chelsea has a great squad. But, they also have a new manager who just got his side promoted from the championship - he does not really have proper Premier League experience as of recent times. He was an assistant manager at City for a while - and became the Leicester boss.

Chelsea needs more fixing at their management. Every Prem viewers agree to the fact that Pochettino deserved more time. He was cooking something, and at the late period of the season, they were playing very well too. Todd Boehly is very impatient, and this might be very detrimental to Chelsea in the long term.

That is not correct, this Manchester United squad consist of players brought in by Louis Van Gaal, Jose Mourinho and Ole Gunner Solskjaer. How can you say such a thing? Erik Ten Hag has just seen players like Casemiro, Kobbie Mainoo, Lisandro Martinez, Antony and also Joshua Zirkzee brought in by him. The rest of the squad are all from the previous managers.

Most of these players from the past managers lacks standard and I don't see them doing well for the club. Just like Ralf Rangnick said, they will have to sell close to 12-15 player's currently playing for Manchester United before they can compete at a top level..

People focusing on the score sheet didn't see the game..
 I think Manchester United was the better side as they created too many chances but failed to convert them. Liverpool did that and won the game. In between Manchester United defense was garbage.

Manchester City managed to show their prowess by beating Chelsea 4-2 in a friendly match yesterday. I don't know whether Chelsea defeat in that match should be used as a reference to their performance next season or not ?
because I saw that Enzo Maresca fielded many of their main players in that match, so far,  Chelsea has experienced three negative results from their 4 friendly matches, and which has actually made many people start to doubt Enzo Maresca capacity to coach Chelsea at this time, so make many fans have even started to compare whether Pochettino is still better than Enzo Maresca.

Haaland has shown his capacity as a great striker since and before he was brought in from Dortmund, Haaland has become a mainstay player and irreplaceable striker in Manchester City's current front line, but if we look at his statement which says he is very tired of playing 70 games a year, isn't it this indicates that Manchester City should look for another striker to be Haalaand back-up next season?
Because after all, forcing Haalaand to continue playing in every Manchester City match will certainly risk him getting injured due to fatigue.

It was like a rehearsal for Manchester City and Chelsea before they come face-to-face on the 1st week of the season.    Manchester City looked really decent with that 4-2 win.

It looks like Haaland looks quite ready for this season.    A hat-trick came by him. Haaland made a comment recently like it is really tiring to play over 70 matches a year. I'll give him that there of course. But he still looks sharp after this performance. The thing I hope to see him fixing the most is his performance in big matches. I mean against top teams.

Because we can see him turning into a ghost in such matches many times...

I think if Ten Hag chooses to let Wan Bissaka go it will be the right decision. What I see is that Ten Hag is being realistic about the situation that has occurred in the last 2 years. Wan Bissaka could not return to his best performance, and it looks like Ten Hag doesn't want to gamble on Wan Bissaka anymore for the next season, so it stands to reason if Ten Hag wants to try out a new color at right-back. In the next few days, Noussair Mazraoui will undergo a medical test, and that indicates that Mazraoui will replace Aaron Wan Bissaka next season.

Some of these players you've listed here are already making their ways out of Manchester United this summer since they know that they're surplus to requirement at the club but I think including Aaron Wan-Bissaka to the list of players who you think "no good can come out of them" is wrong. Wan-Bissaka have been one of the most underrated English Premier League defenders in recent years and I think it's because of the injury incidents he's been having. Whenever he's fit, Wan-Bissaka usually delivers world class football performances so if Manchester United are trying to get rid of these players you mentioned, including Wan-Bissaka I think will be a huge mistake.

Some of Manchester United current players are worthy of being thrown away as you said, because in fact Manchester United is still trying to recruit several new players but so far they have not made any move to get them after completing deals with Leny Yoro and Zirkzee, Maguire in the last two seasons has been one a player who has a very bad performance and even as a player who ever bought at a very expensive price, Maguire is no longer able to show his quality at this time, Casemiro was previously rumored to be leaving for the Saudi Arabian team but for some reason he is still staying at Manchester United, Casemiro we admit that he was a great midfielder when he played for Madrid, but now he may be far below his best level of play this time, Apart from these two players, it seems like ten hag really need to re-evaluate the players they currently have and it's time to get rid of players those who don't have contributions.

3 defeats from 5 pre-season matches, including against Liverpool, should make them realize that they are not quite ready to face the competition next season, pre-season matches cannot be used as a reference for next season, but if you look at their game when against Liverpool yesterday it clearly shows a lot the chaos that occurred in the Manchester United squad both in terms of game strategy, lack of creativity in attack and also a very fragile defense.

The match between Real Betis Balompié Football team and Manchester United F.C. football team was thrilling and that was most interesting match and there are very less matches like that in which audience enjoyed well . Both teams player language was at top and both teams prepared well for this match but that was friendly match and has no has importance on International level. Casemiro goal was match changing because his goal bent the match to the Manchester United F.C. sides . If he could not do end goal then goals could be equal in this match and we could see penalties in this match but we saw no penalties in this match and match was ended at a time. The overall performance of Manchester United F.C. team was more powerful due to which they won the match in the end and they were best in all things.

This is quite confusing actually because the current Manchester United squad is the result of what Ten Hag built himself so if at this time no one is to blame except Ten Hag and indeed it is also appropriate for Manchester United management to encourage or support Ten Hag to be able to improve his squad.

I also see how bad the quality of Manchester United players is at this time which makes their team's game chaotic and I am not surprised by that.
But let's just wait and see what changes Ten Hag will make for next season.

And the spotlight is more on the Liverpool team, Liverpool's new coach can still make this team's performance quite stable even though there have been no significant changes, I think this is a positive signal.

All of them have been targeted to be sent far away from the team but they still remain.    There isn't much time left for the new season to begin so what's taking the Red Devils so long?

Greenwood has left the team before all of them. I would rather see him staying instead as he would be much more useful than these useless names. It seems like Rashford is also not leaving that easy. He has been like good in one season and bad in another. The last time was his very bad time so hopefully he can turn it into some good this season.    If only they manage to sell these names... It would be much easier to bring better players in their places.

Liverpool has not been bad in the pre-season, they also cooked Arsenal. It signals that Manchester United owners nerd to get the pending deals done for Erik Ten Hag. I don't see Erik Ten Hag having another rough season if the right players are simply brought into the club. Erik Ten Hag's Manchester United will improve as much as they have quality players signed up.

How do I explain to you that Manchester United cannot improve with the likes of Aaron Wan Bisakka, Harry Maguire, Victor Lindelof, Scott MC Tominay, Casemiro declining and Antony. No good will come out of these players honestly. Last night was a good show that Casemiro is finished.  Top player but tj y should be preparing for his exit.

What's stable about Erik Ten Hag's squad when he doesn't have quality players with good standards? Are We joking?!

Liverpool have a stable squad and I believe they will do well comes next season.Their performance under this coach is really good that was why they flogged Arsenal,and they have now defeated Man United too.
Arne slot seems to be a good coach that will elevate Liverpool again.Although they've not gotten a signings yet,but they are making use of the players they have to make things happen,it might happen that at the end of the transfer window,they won't sign in a my new player if they believe they can go far with the current squad they have.

Liverpool played some good football yesterday against Manchester United. It’s surprising that they have not brought in a single player in this summer transfer window but they have won all their preseason games. There are different from Chelsea that lost yesterday to Manchester City. Liverpool’s squad is a stable one, they will only need to adjust to the new manager's  details and those new stuffs aren’t too different from what’s obtainable under Klopp. All of the players played together last season for one.. so it wouldn't be a strange environment.
With the way they have been playing in the preseason, it’s obvious that they are going to challenge for the EPL title with Arsenal and Manchester City. They have a good and decent squad. Maybe one or two defensive signing(s) will keep them going into the season.

You are right Chelsea under the leadership of Todd Boehly and the new manager wants to implement a different strategy they want to make a lot of changes and get rid of players who they think are not contributing much even though in reality these players are important players whose presence on the field has been very important, the club does have full authority regarding the rules that must be obeyed and the players also can't do anything but surrender to the club's decision, Chelsea currently can't appreciate hard work whether it's towards players or coaches if they don't give the appropriate expectations then the club will fire the coach or sell the player even though they have improved progress significantly it's sad the club should be aware that making Chelsea strong again takes which is not fast time.

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Btw in the Liverpool vs Manchester United today match they beat MU with a big score of 3:0 without giving MU a chance to retaliate. This match is quite easy to guess because in the previous match Liverpool was also able to beat Arsenal and previously Arsenal beat Man United so in the meeting between Liverpool and Manchester United it is clear that Liverpool will be the favorite to win, but bookies give quite high odds on Liverpool

A friendly match is different than an official match but this result is so bad for Manchester United. It signals that Manchester United might have another chaotic and tough season again. Ten Hag will continue to struggle with their job in Manchester United with a mission to improve their quality and performances. In his third season there, if he continues to make massive disappointment, his coach position will be at bigger risk.

The boss in Manchester United patiently put their determination and belief in Ten Hag, did not sack the coach in this summer, but if things continue to be bad, won't be improved, next summer can be a different decision from Manchester United's boss.

This result is very bad by taking into account that Liverpool has a new coach this summer while Manchester United has a stable status with a coach position, Ten Hag has been already there for two latest seasons.