Topic: ⚽ Premier League 2023/2024 Discussion Thread ⚽ - page 139. (Read 70476 times)

But when the benchmark is only on trophies, in the end the same situation always occurs where Ten Hag cannot balance Manchester United's overall performance and can only focus on one competition that allows them to get especially the FA when compared to the EPL or other competitions sometimes it is considered not too prestigious so 1 trophy cannot cover Manchester United's poor performance in other competitions including in the Champions League and EPL last season.

It's just that management is too confident that Ten Hag is capable and at this time they should see that Manchester United's performance is far from expectations.
6 matches 2 wins, 1 draw and 3 defeats are clearly very bad results for a class of Manchester United even now they are in a standings that are not too appropriate for them where they are almost close to the relegation zone because they are only 4 points adrift of Cristal Palace who is on the border of the relegation zone.

Let us be honest to ourselves, Manchester United winning the F.A cup last season was basically on luck because they weren't performing well before they met Manchester city at the finals. Winning the F.A cup increased Eric Ten Haag's chances of being retained as the head coach but i don't think the management of Manchester united is really serious about getting a new coach if not they would have even done that earlier before now. There are experienced coaches the club can hire but they are just being too adamant to sack Ten Haag and it's not even like the club don't have the finance to employ the service of a new coach. They should be expecting more chaos if they refuse to let go of ETH because i can't see any improvement from him. They should get a coach who will understand the football ethics of the club and they will become strong again just like those days when Sir Alex Ferguson was coaching the team.

Erik Tag Hag generally has the possibility to win trophies before the end of the season, and people will forget about his sacking rumors, since I am sure if they didn't take any action against Erik Ten Hag Manchester United will still be playing weak but he will get one trophy that is how I think Erik Ten Hag is because last season Manchester United were not doing well but they got opportunities against Manchester City in the FA Cup and won the trophy and anyone stop talking about his sacking anymore thinking he can perform well this season and he has already started losing matches in the league, let see if they will take action against him if he continues to lose match in the league. If they lose their match against Porto and lose in the league against Aston Villa, I'm confident they'll make a choice to replace him since he's not helping the club anymore. Aston Villa are in better shape and defeated Bayern Munich in the UCL, therefore don't expect Manchester United to win their next league game.

  Yah, what you said is correct Manchester United was doing well but now they are not. Even as they are bad in the season, they are more pronounced than most of the team. And only that will tell people that the team was not a weak team. And if they can do things right, they can bounced back.
They are some teams that plays match that people would like to watch and Manchester United is one of the teams.

With the way the two clubs are performing currently, I don’t think the match is really going to be a difficult one for Aston Villa, Manchester United's performance is currently poor, and any club that they play against is always winning comfortably. We all saw how Aston Villa played in their last Champions League match, nobody expected a win from them, but they were able to secure three points in the match, so they will do everything to win their match against Manchester United, and United are performing poorly currently.

They are currently unstoppable, so I don’t think Manchester United will be the one that will be able to stop them. I am expecting a win from Aston Villa, the match shouldn’t be really difficult for Aston Villa.

The great benefit of being Manchester United is the fact that while they are doing badly, they are still one of the most talked about teams out there in the world. I mean City has won the league four times in a row right now, and the yare still not getting as much talk as United. Just check here, check the forum and you will see in the last 50 pages or so, United has been talked more than City, which goes to show you how important United is to this league.

Maybe they are not doing great right now, but we know we are getting a great deal of marketing for them which is amazing for them and we are talking about a profit for them as well because they make money from this marketing, and allows them to do better job with money management as well. While they might be badly managed, they never have financial troubles, no matter how much money they spend on players. So they are still doing great, while I agree it is not final yet, it is still a good job without a doubt.

Aston villa had a 100% win record against Bayern Munich, this isn't the first time that they're winning them when then play against eachother. They win them the last time that they meant in the champions league. Also their recent coach U. Emery has always had good record against Bayern Munich, he was the last manager that won Bayern Munich in the group stage of the champions league last and he just did it again yesterday. The game was so interesting to watch, I thought Bayern Munich was going to win and score lots of goals as they usually do too but Aston villa had other plans and they played very well to deserved their victory.

it's obvious that the players in the team are not having the best of time and the club and it's almost as though they are all tired of playing for the club already. The club needs total overhauling of both some key players and even a possible sack of ETH. This might be a very bad outing for man united seeing that they are currently at 11th spot on the table of both the euros and the EPL. Of the 6 games they've played, they've only won 2 and even though thier lasrt loss to Tottenham is as a result of the red cadd they collected, it's still not an excuse to the fact that they are performing below what is expected of them. After the last outing at the Euros hasn't Twente that the went out to share a point with the team, if they can't convincing win in today's game against  that lost her tirst game, it will be verh disheartening.

Well, it's a story related to coach Erik Ten Hag is facing the risk of "losing his seat" if he cannot help the team achieve good results in the two matches against Porto and Aston Villa.
But that doesn't mean I'll be so quick to predict the Aston Villa - Manchester United match. I rate Aston Villa highly because they are in good form and spirit after beating Bayern Munich. However, I still like to take risks. I still rate Manchester United as a crazy team, they can play badly. But there are times when they explode like a bomb. So this match I will have a different opinion from you, I will choose Manchester United to win.

I would say Manchester United were just too optimistic about Ten Hag and that high expectations is why most of the fans have been worried to, Ten Hag has won two trophies even if everyone calls it domestic trophies ideally the is the most of any manager in the league bar Pep Guardiola since the Dutchman arrival, so trophy wise I will say they are building on it and winning trophies is definitely a very good way to motivate your team. But let’s be realistic, does anyone knows what pattern Ten Hag plays at Manchester United? I don’t see any pattern here and this is actually worrying to most Manchester United fans. For you to win bigger trophies you a team with structure and then build that with consistent results, not that I will say Arteta and Arsenal are there yet but let’s be honest with ourself that man has don excellently in the way he structure the team, for two seasons In a row Arsenal have been challenging for the league and are only stopped by the best team in Europe.

This summer when the new Manchester United board actually renewed Ten hag contract I was also in support of that decision because he Ten Hag had just came off the season with a poor squad due to injury but won the FA cup so he deserved more chance. This season I have seen Manchester United playing well although some results weren’t coming but the last two games have shown that they are getting back to been poor again, I think the Board will give him time which is not bad to me and see maybe he could do something to this awful result or then just have to fire him if In the next two games the club performance hasn’t changed

Somethings we don't expected was why they won that FA cup last season. I still don't believe Guardiola loss that match to Ten Hag the way they were balling hard last season, and they also look u serious. A lot of bet were washed down the drain that day which is unforgettable and I think it was what gave the management some courage and hope that he was going to perform well this season but I know it was going to be worst of their season again.

Before yesterday Champions League, Manchester United against Aston Villa wasn't much but it seems there is going to be a lil surprise this weekend because Aston Villa won Bayern Munich yesterday, same team that hasn't lose any match this season and now Manchester United want to play against such team this weekend, they can lose that match since it's an away match but who knows, we have to wait to see what the weekend unfold.

In Europe, this type of competition is always going on, with any team outmaneuvering the other team. Every team has to enter the field with a new strategy in every match. It is more necessary to plan with the opposite team than to plan with your own team before entering the field against a team, and if you target any player of the opposite team, you can win for yourself, how to organize the team strategically, the team will do well, but a manager has to ensure in advance. Ten Hag should have achieved more in his tenure at United but what he has achieved in that long time I would say is limited. It is already understood that he will not be able to achieve anything significant this season due to the state of the team. 
So we can naturally assume that this season might be Ten Hag's last season at Manchester United.

Winning only FA Cup titles won't be enough for Manchester United.    They must be in the Premier League title race. It is that simple considering the history of this team.



As you can see they have an amazing history in this league. They still have the most number of titles achieved. It isn't good to see a team like that in this poor condition for many years. Erik ten Hag just can't improve any season. It is the same now as well. He still looks very calm but deep down he must also be really worried about his future. If we don't see positive results until January then I think he can get sacked with immediate effect.

Given Man United's current form and condition with the loss of injured players and Bruno Fernandes facing a suspension, I would not hesitate to bet on Aston Villa to win. Any bettor would have the same choice because the odds provided by the bookmaker are very tempting. And on the one hand all bettors know that Aston Villa are currently very stable and difficult to beat. The worst result that can happen is a draw if Ten Hag parks the bus in front of the goal.

The score prediction looks like 3-1

Totally agreed. I wonder why people in here are thinking Manchester United would not lose if Bruno had not been awarded a red card. He has underperformed. He was inconsistent and atrocious. He was one of the worst in their XI in most games. It's been insufferable to watch him.

Even if he was not getting a red card, most fans agreed he should be benched for his poor play.

You know what when I was sit in the middle school I like Manchester United a lot heck my brother is go crazy when MU is play, because the Premiere league always aired in the early hours of the morning her in Indonesia my brother is always stay up late, But after I saw the record match yesterday I just feel MU is not like it used too.

What do you say about the Aston Villa - Manchester United game in three days?  



Aston Villa are on fire! They have been unbeaten for 7 official games and won 6 of them as well. They even beat Bayern Munich last night. Can you imagine?    Emery's students are unstoppable recently.

On the other hand Manchester United continue to mess up. They are even worse in big games. I don't think they will get any point here too. I believe Aston Villa win @2.31 is worth taking the risk.

Maybe the problem ain't from the e coach, you can't blame individuals errors and blunders caused by players on the pitch on the manager, well when they don't win games they both have to share the responsibilities but I tell you this yeah, pay attention to the build up that lead to all three goals, you'll see that some players had a hand innit or couldn't complete tracking balls back. Erik Ten Hag is a good coach, they just need to start winning games to silence these criticisms. A four man midfied is what I want to see truthfully ( Bruno Fernandez, Eriksen, Casemiro and Ugarte ) against Porto and Aston Villa.

Although MU performance in the EPL is inconsistent, the view on Ten Hag ability has changed a little after he won the FA Cup. Hope is slightly open, especially after bringing in new players in the transfer market. But the fact is very far from what is expected, now MU is still running in place, no change is visible at all. The pressure on him grew after suffering a heavy 0-3 defeat against Tottenham at Old Trafford, and the issue of his dismissal grew stronger. Although there has been no action from management, pressure continues to come from all directions.

In my opinion, the reason the board of directors did not immediately fire Ten Hag was because they had to spend around 17.5 million pounds as compensation for the remainder of his contract which will expire in June 2026, but that amount could be reduced if Ten Hag leaves after reaching an agreement between the two parties or he resigns from his position.

Was the victory a result of luck, certainly because their rivals prefer the prestigious title than the FA Cup and added to the excessive euphoria by their fans made Ten Hag's ego increase, nothing changed from him when he was appointed as head coach of Man United having expensive players would certainly improve the game, but there was no significant progress at the end of last season or the beginning of this season, the only way to get rid of players who do not meet expectations and find a coach who has more flying hours than bringing in a non-superior coach, what's more there are many coaches out there and Man United management has so much money it will certainly be easy to bring in a top coach and of course in accordance with Man United's game philosophy.