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Quote from: Raflesia on October 06, 2024, 04:34:39 PM

But the unpredictable conditions for Manchester United are actually not only based on a busy schedule but also their erratic performance because of the dilapidation of their scheme in the match which makes their matches also difficult to guess Cheesy

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In the end, speculation about Aston Villa and Manchester United ended where they only managed to collect 1 point in this match but in my opinion it was still quite good for Manchester United because at least they didn't lose points in today's match.
Although from the actual statistics Aston Villa is slightly superior but in this match Mancehster United is quite focused even when talking about opportunities they are more active than Aston Villa even though there are no goals scored in today's match.
Bruno also did not make silly mistakes like he did when facing Tottenham and Porto in previous matches so of course this is a positive thing even though they could not get 3 points.

I saw both teams played offensive and implement tight defense, so that situation made some player do physical confrontation on the fields as seen at the end of the match. yes, Villa is more bit have much ball possession maybe because play at their home. On other situation, Unai strategy is look better than ten hag when I look how their winger supply the ball to attacker, but again, The MU defense is tight. And another factor is unlucky, they didn't get a chance to shoot the ball in accurately because always blocked by MU defender, and vice versa it happen also when MU counterattacks to Aston Villa. But we don't know what happened to tenhag with this result?, is he got fired or still continue?

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Quote from: knowngunman on October 06, 2024, 04:53:41 AM

Well, Arsenal did not do anything extraordinary aside winning the game. Being a goal down and coming back to win the game is not longer a magic as teams often do it

yes, arsenal did the most exceptional performance - one of which was a good one since it awarded them with 3 points and some goals to reckon. You're just full of hate for a team and fail to see their effort at the end.
Well, saka's goal really caught my fancy as he just came up from behind the defender, stole the ball and put it away in the net.

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Southampton is currently on the verge of relegation and they are working hard to achieve it.

The 19th position on the table ain't cool at all. They're already in the relegation zone. I gotta say, this was a really tough one for wolves and Southampton as they may be out sooner or later.

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Quote from: Issa56 on October 06, 2024, 03:28:54 PM

Quote from: len01 on October 06, 2024, 02:33:52 PM

And this is the result, surprising right? Roll Eyes

A very competitive match, both teams kept each other clean sheet even though Aston Villa had good chances. Ten Hag seems to have started to find the right strategy for Man United but not sure if such a strategy can provide an improvement to get satisfactory results.
With this draw, it is an added value for Ten Hag and gives a little bit of an improved reputation even though it is not really convincing.

Because Manchester United were able to get a draw in today's match doesn’t mean their performance is improving, just a match can’t be used to judge a club's performance. I know their performance wasn’t really bad in the match, I never expected a draw in the match. I was expecting Aston Villa to comfortably win the match, but both of them couldn’t score any goal in the match, and they both shared the point. Let’s see how Manchester United will perform in coming matches, but Manchester United getting a draw doesn’t mean Ten hag shouldn’t be sacked, because I don’t think Ten hag will be able to improve the club’s performance.

Manchester United manager Erik ten Hag did grant an interview after his side's draw at Villa Park today in which he suggested that he's on the same line of plan with the club management. The Dutchman doesn't look like a man who's afraid of losing his job at the moment and that I think is as a result of the backings he's currently getting from the club management. Getting a point today against Aston Villa was a good result but I don't think it changes the fact that Manchester United is still far from becoming competitive in the league

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Quote from: Docnaster on October 05, 2024, 05:01:31 PM

The current squad rotation mechanism Liverpool manager Arne Slot is using is making it very difficult for Premier League Fantasy managers to rightly predict players that'll start their league games. Not only is he rotating the attacking line but he's also rotating the defense line just like he decided to start Tsimikas ahead of the club's regular left back Andy Robertson. The decision to leave Luiz Diaz out of his starting XI was very surprising but since he's the manager, there's nothing that can be done about it as he was able to grab all three points at the end of the day. The result of today's English Premier League games wasn't that entertaining if you ask me but I believe tomorrow's games will give more entertaining results

This also happened because they did not buy players who made Slot only fixated on existing players because indeed their stock was quite minimal, especially for the attack line, especially with the condition of Nunez who still could not contribute more especially after his playing minutes were cut, making the conditions from Liverpool in rotating a little choked up.

But even so, as long as they still managed to get 3 points even though only with a narrow victory, I think they still haven't experienced major obstacles, which means that everything can still be anticipated well by the Slot so far.

With the condition of Nunez who is still stuck on the bench, it seems that when the rotation of players becomes more difficult, Slot should now be more willing to take risks, although we are certainly aware that sometimes including Nunez as a targetman also has a considerable risk because he still cannot contribute more, especially for the problem of goal productivity.

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Quote from: Raflesia on October 05, 2024, 09:49:54 AM

As I said, a busy schedule can be a difficult condition to predict. We can see that their break before returning to play is only 2 days, which means there will definitely be some rotations that will definitely occur in this match.

Although it cannot be denied that in terms of teamwork now indeed Aston Villa looks much better prepared but on the other hand in 90 minutes of the match we cannot predict for sure especially when there are some things that might not be wanted just like the red card that occurred for Bruno in the previous match so in this case all possibilities can still occur.

As a comparison in today's match alone we can see that Manchester City are still troubled and Liverpool only managed to win with a thin score because they forced to export players and partly rotated.

I believe when teams play too many games, eventually they get very tired and this causes them to get unpredicted results. This isn't new, there are many teams who go further in UCL for many years, some teams are always good and those teams always have uncommon unexpected losses in their leagues every season, just one or two, but it happens and because of this we should not be really that much shocked about it.

We need to focus on what we can do and how we can do it, but that doesn't mean we are going to see this getting any different and we are going to lose our bets out of nowhere sometimes but we need to agree to this.

The rest of the time the yare good and we just bet on them to win. City for example is a team that keeps on winning, they had 5 of last 6 titles and 4 in a row and they went 30+ winning streaks too, but in the end what happened we ended up with some unexpected results here and there with them too. Like how Real ended up losing to Lille for example just the other day.

But the unpredictable conditions for Manchester United are actually not only based on a busy schedule but also their erratic performance because of the dilapidation of their scheme in the match which makes their matches also difficult to guess Cheesy

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In the end, speculation about Aston Villa and Manchester United ended where they only managed to collect 1 point in this match but in my opinion it was still quite good for Manchester United because at least they didn't lose points in today's match.
Although from the actual statistics Aston Villa is slightly superior but in this match Mancehster United is quite focused even when talking about opportunities they are more active than Aston Villa even though there are no goals scored in today's match.
Bruno also did not make silly mistakes like he did when facing Tottenham and Porto in previous matches so of course this is a positive thing even though they could not get 3 points.

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Quote from: len01 on October 06, 2024, 02:33:52 PM

And this is the result, surprising right? Roll Eyes

A very competitive match, both teams kept each other clean sheet even though Aston Villa had good chances. Ten Hag seems to have started to find the right strategy for Man United but not sure if such a strategy can provide an improvement to get satisfactory results.
With this draw, it is an added value for Ten Hag and gives a little bit of an improved reputation even though it is not really convincing.

Because Manchester United were able to get a draw in today's match doesn’t mean their performance is improving, just a match can’t be used to judge a club's performance. I know their performance wasn’t really bad in the match, I never expected a draw in the match. I was expecting Aston Villa to comfortably win the match, but both of them couldn’t score any goal in the match, and they both shared the point. Let’s see how Manchester United will perform in coming matches, but Manchester United getting a draw doesn’t mean Ten hag shouldn’t be sacked, because I don’t think Ten hag will be able to improve the club’s performance.

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Quote from: pawel7777 on October 05, 2024, 04:45:22 PM

No surprises today, all the top 3 teams have won their matches, but actually none of them was an easy game. Even in the Arsenal Vs Southampton, the away team took the lead in the 55th minute, but the Gunners managed to press harder and score 3 after that.

Big game for Ten Hag tomorrow. There are rumours that if Man Utd performs badly against Aston Villa, he will be on the way out.
Aston Villa is a x2.22 favourite and the odds for Man United's win are x3.00. Betting on AV could be a good idea, I don't think there's a big chance for any sudden awakening of Ten Hag's team.
United is doing even worse than in the last season in terms of average goals scored per game, with only 0.83 goals per game. There's an improvement in the average number of goals lost per game.
So there's a big chance we won't be seeing many goals tomorrow, and bookies agree, with odds for total goals under 3.5 being x1.61, which is still not that bad.

Yes, what can I say - we didn't see any goals in this match, zero results are very rare for the EPL, but looking at the statistics Manchester United could well lose.... So far there is no news about the sacking and Ten Hag remains, unfortunately. He even managed to say after the match that they are heading in the right direction because it's their 4th dry match. I think he's getting ironic already because he thinks he's allowed to do everything. Otherwise he's insane

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Quote from: emrecemsan on October 06, 2024, 08:15:27 AM

It is the day to find out if Erik ten Hag is getting the sack or not... The Aston Villa v Manchester United match has already started.

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And this is the result, surprising right? Roll Eyes

A very competitive match, both teams kept each other clean sheet even though Aston Villa had good chances. Ten Hag seems to have started to find the right strategy for Man United but not sure if such a strategy can provide an improvement to get satisfactory results.
With this draw, it is an added value for Ten Hag and gives a little bit of an improved reputation even though it is not really convincing.

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on October 06, 2024, 01:37:52 PM

So commenting the results of the turn.
As expected Everton Newcastle was not a so easy game for Newcastle and the game ended 0-0
Another fail for Ten Hag with Mancehster United, he will sacked soon, probably during the next week break is a good moment.

Spurs lost and Chelasse tie are others 2 surprising bad results.

Should Sean Dyche be backed further? Let's also not forget this is the third season of Eddie Howe. The media do not criticize him same way they criticize Erik Ten Hag. Pathetic Punks! The management of Manchester United have just hinted they have no such plans to sack Erik Ten Hag, but they better improve Fr! Fr! Nothingham Forest are also good sides, they have an experienced manager and he has handled them well this season with just one lose recorded in the Premier League Competition. Tottenham Hotspur had a sloppy second half and Brighton utilized the chances they had. They showed they wanted the win immediately the scoreline was 1-2! incredible performance!

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So commenting the results of the turn.
As expected Everton Newcastle was not a so easy game for Newcastle and the game ended 0-0
Another fail for Ten Hag with Mancehster United, he will sacked soon, probably during the next week break is a good moment.

Spurs lost and Chelasse tie are others 2 surprising bad results.

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Quote from: Plaguedeath on October 05, 2024, 11:09:58 AM

So far, nothing surprising with the results. Cheesy

Liverpool, Arsenal, and Manchester City managed to win even though they won not with big points.

Arne Slot already tired with Nunez, even he was become a starter and played for full time, his performance didn't change at all. It's a wise move to replace him with Jota, even he's not a star player, but his performance better than Nunez.

The big teams delivered accordingly in today's games after the midweek games of Europe. Liverpool did decent in an early kickoff game after the UCL game in midweek, getting away with a win was crucial. Arsenal went behind first but then thrashed So'ton. City were pretty solid but Haaland can't find his scoring boots for the second week in a row.

PL is going competitive right now, as it is really hard to differentiate the teams in the top 4, also the bottom half is also really close. This season promises to be very competitive, even towards the end, all throughout the table.

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It is the day to find out if Erik ten Hag is getting the sack or not... The Aston Villa v Manchester United match has already started.

I see Zirkzee on the bench but I'm not surprised with that. He hasn't been able to contribute to goals much so far. Hojlund played properly for the first time against Porto and scored. So it is natural to see him there. But this team still have a huge issue with scoring goals in the Premier League. I don't know if they will perform much better against Aston Villa. Sad

Aston Villa are in a great form. They don't lose and they have come here after beating Bayern Munich. Grin

I think seeing them winning this one also wouldn't be any surprise.

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Quote from: $weetne$$ on October 05, 2024, 04:57:47 PM

Great response from arsenal, they showed that they're ready to win the title this season. Not evey club can be 1 goal down and comeback to win 3:1 also Arsenal respond was very fast then expected. Kai Havertz got the first goal and this motivated the Arsenal players and they were capable of scoring more two gaols to win the game 3:1. After the first goal by Southampton it seems like they went back to relax because Arsenal took over the game from that point and it was all Arsenal being a threat and it eventually got them to win. Arsenal deserved to win the game because they have being playing so well but have just being unlucky although today they were lucky regardless of going one goal down to get the win and now they're third with just one point behind Liverpool that are table toppers.

Well, Arsenal did not do anything extraordinary aside winning the game. Being a goal down and coming back to win the game is not longer a magic as teams often do it including Chelsea and Manchester united that we normally refer to as weak team. I really didn't expect anything from southampton against Arsenal. Considering southampton recent performance, I won't be impressed even if Arsenal was two goals down and did a come back.

Southampton is currently on the verge of relegation and they are working hard to achieve it. Although, I still commend their performance for playing a bit better at second half but the fact remains that Arsenal is not on their level and that is one reason I will not praise their coming back. And yes, Arsenal seem to be consistent this season at least for now.

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The late kickoff match yesterday between Everton vs Newcastle united was quite though for both teams and the game ended with goaless draw full time although Newcastle united almost take the lead in the first half but Jordan Pickford was able to save the penalty from Anthony Gordon in the 35th minutes which gave them the confident to share the points equally against Newcastle united. However I think Everton did very well in the game yesterday because looking at Newcastle united recent performance this season I couldn't believe that Everton would hold them 0-0 till final whistle.

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Quote from: Woodie on October 05, 2024, 08:01:56 AM

Liverpool game doesn't look as lively as I thought it would be and unfortunately it seems both teams are playing a reserved game even with a lone goal from Jota already on the board...
Perhaps Crystal Palace getting a goal back could spark things up, but from how the game is unfolding, clearly this could end in a 1-0 or 2-0 and not what I was looking for..lets see what other games bring after this one.

Salah subbed out , in comes Luiz Diaz.. clearly no goals coming Cry

Liverpool won it 1-0. We're winning without playing well. A classic pattern by us in away games. We dominate entirely, then slowly fall off until we are hanging on by a thread. But I'm not surprised. Selhurst Park is a horrible ground for us to go to. It's never an easy game there, and I'm glad to come away with three points and a clean sheet from there.

Our players, Jaros and Ali, did it well; they helped us avoid losing some golden chances to our opponents. Endo came on 10 minutes before the game ended, but he was effective.

Yet I'm still disappointed with the chances we created. We could score more in this game. It seems a recurring issue now. However, tributes for Jota with his clinical performance and the only goal.

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Quote from: pawel7777 on October 05, 2024, 04:45:22 PM

No surprises today, all the top 3 teams have won their matches, but actually none of them was an easy game. Even in the Arsenal Vs Southampton, the away team took the lead in the 55th minute, but the Gunners managed to press harder and score 3 after that.

Arsenal changed the strategy on 2nd half after being stuck in the previous half. I am not surprised if they conceded first because they need adaptation and implementation for all players. Southampton provides to counter all aggression arsenal from each line so they bit overwhelming after Harvetz equalizes the score. So I think Arsenal more understands to overcome Southampton last night because when I compared with Manchester city where they are very overwhelmed to carry out Crystal Palace, Arsenal could easily overcome Southampton's midfield so that they could create 2 different goals.

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Quote from: Oluwa-btc on October 05, 2024, 06:31:59 PM

Well, I will never forget he won Manchester United two trophies while playing three finals as Manchester United manager. I want to see if they can win against Aston Villa. Manchester United fans are just without patience period!!

What's your bottom line before you sack him? Finishing outside the top 4? I heard rumors that United's board will decide ETH's future next Tuesday, so his time is running out. I don't think they have the patience to wait until the end of the season. I agree that most fans have no patience. Still, there should be better arguments to support a manager other than the fact that another manager has a similar bad season because the context is always different. I mean, I see someone suggest United should stick with ETH for at least 7 years because Ferguson won his first trophy after 7 seasons at United. I don't think that's a reasonable argument at all.

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Quote from: Huppercase on October 05, 2024, 02:35:11 PM

Manchester United might pull some triggers we may not see coming because if they lose this match, the little credibility they are managing with fans is going to be over and more probability of Erik Ten Hag going to leave the club, forget the scope of early and believing in players. There is nothing to believe in him again, all those statements are crap and cheap talks.

Go back and see what happened during the third season of Mikel Arteta. Arsenal fans even wanted Mikel Arteta out, I will never forget how they lost the opening game of the season against Brentford. Asides that they went ahead and lost more games but the management backed the manager Mikel Arteta even though they weren't getting the results they wanted. Well, I will never forget he won Manchester United two trophies while playing three finals as Manchester United manager. I want to see if they can win against Aston Villa. Manchester United fans are just without patience period!!

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Quote from: uchegod-21 on October 05, 2024, 03:02:15 PM

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Quote from: Plaguedeath on October 05, 2024, 11:09:58 AM

Frequent reshuffling of starters for any team strongly affects the selection of fantasy squad. Imagine a friend tried Jota for sometime and discovered that Nunez was trying to get more playing time than Jota. He sold Jota and but Diaz, and now Diaz is coming from Bench with Nunez while Jota is starting. I believe next week he will shuffle again.
Meanwhile, it seems that the top teams managed to win and it doesn't really matter the winning margin as per day. I am looking upto tomorrow to see how it will go down.

The current squad rotation mechanism Liverpool manager Arne Slot is using is making it very difficult for Premier League Fantasy managers to rightly predict players that'll start their league games. Not only is he rotating the attacking line but he's also rotating the defense line just like he decided to start Tsimikas ahead of the club's regular left back Andy Robertson. The decision to leave Luiz Diaz out of his starting XI was very surprising but since he's the manager, there's nothing that can be done about it as he was able to grab all three points at the end of the day. The result of today's English Premier League games wasn't that entertaining if you ask me but I believe tomorrow's games will give more entertaining results

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Quote from: hahay on October 05, 2024, 02:51:34 PM

Arsenal is also the fact that it is not easy to win at home, despite only playing against Southampton, which is basically at the bottom of the table and also has no wins so far. But, Southampton managed to score first and that triggered Arsenal to be able to play even better. The result was good of course, as Arsenal managed to score three goals and Saka was very impressive with two assists and also scored one goal in this 3-1 win.

Great response from arsenal, they showed that they're ready to win the title this season. Not evey club can be 1 goal down and comeback to win 3:1 also Arsenal respond was very fast then expected. Kai Havertz got the first goal and this motivated the Arsenal players and they were capable of scoring more two gaols to win the game 3:1. After the first goal by Southampton it seems like they went back to relax because Arsenal took over the game from that point and it was all Arsenal being a threat and it eventually got them to win. Arsenal deserved to win the game because they have being playing so well but have just being unlucky although today they were lucky regardless of going one goal down to get the win and now they're third with just one point behind Liverpool that are table toppers.

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