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Arsenal proved that they will be strong candidates to compete for the premier league title next season if the performance shown by arsenal is really stable in the pre-season matches they are currently playing, and it is not impossible that arteta will present a trophy next season.

I am intrigued by the performance the Arsenal guys put out there. They have shown their readiness this season for using their second 11 today. The performance of the squad was fairly penetrating and it showed a strong squad depth. I also liked their level of composure in managing the opponents to the end.

This is what we're talking about Arteta, he was good enough to test the second 11 comfortably and watch over their individual player performances. I will also encourage him to practice this more often to be able to pick stronger players that can substitute the first eleven players in bigger matches.
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Thus, it seems like it would be better for Manchester United not to involve Erik ten Hag in plans to buy and sell players in this transfer market. Because after all, if Erik ten Hag is still fully involved in choosing the players who are bought and sold, then I think mistakes will still occur which will certainly be detrimental to the team.

The manager should always be involved with buying and selling of players as he's the only one that knows the players he can get the best out of them in the season and those that are not going to be useful to him. Giving managers your own players will not make it possible for him to be capable of coaching the team very well. The manager will always have players that he believes he can work with very well as they'll be listening to him and oykay for him therefore those are the players that he should be using to play almost every game and get the best result for the team. The board should allow the manager and not get involved.

How could a manager not be involved in the transfer window? while the one who makes the strategy and determines the squad is the manager himself. I think it even would be better if the Manager was given complete authority to buy or sell players rather than the boards getting involved in this matter because it will give the Manager much greater leeway in building his squad and he can express more optimally because of it.
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I think arsenal showed a good performance by fielding their second line in their first pre-season match. and yes arsenal proved that their young players are very good at playing their roles on the field. even though they could only score one goal this was a good start for arsenal in their first match, arsenal has young talents who will shine someday if trained well,

arsenal proved that they will be strong candidates to compete for the premier league title next season if the performance shown by arsenal is really stable in the pre-season matches they are currently playing, and it is not impossible that arteta will present a trophy next season.
Arsenal were forced to win on penalties, Honestly this is really surprising. I even thought Arsenal could win easily with normal time because Arsenal is a great team and is predicted to be a tough competitor for Man City this season. Indeed, the pre-season match is an unimportant match and Arsenal also plays many young players but the pre-season match will also have an impact when the league runs later at least with their mentality because we know Arsenal's current weakness is only in mentality. I hope Arteta can fix this problem especially the mentality of the players.

But on the other hand in this pre-season match we can also see Arsenal has potential young players. I don't think Arsenal needs to invest in bringing in a new goalkeeper, Just give this talented young goalkeeper a few minutes of play, he will be a great goalkeeper someday. Overall Arsenal played well but there are only a few things that Arteta needs to pay attention to besides the team's mentality, Arsenal's front line must also be smart in utilizing opportunities as efficiently as possible.
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Thus, it seems like it would be better for Manchester United not to involve Erik ten Hag in plans to buy and sell players in this transfer market. Because after all, if Erik ten Hag is still fully involved in choosing the players who are bought and sold, then I think mistakes will still occur which will certainly be detrimental to the team.

The manager should always be involved with buying and selling of players as he's the only one that knows the players he can get the best out of them in the season and those that are not going to be useful to him. Giving managers your own players will not make it possible for him to be capable of coaching the team very well. The manager will always have players that he believes he can work with very well as they'll be listening to him and oykay for him therefore those are the players that he should be using to play almost every game and get the best result for the team. The board should allow the manager and not get involved.
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Arne slot is just a coach who has experience in the domestic league and even from his coaching history I don't see that he has experience coaching teams that play in the European league or champions league so far, to be honest for now maybe Arne slot will continue where Klopp left off at Liverpool including maintaining last season's main line up for next season, but I don't think this will guarantee that he can take Liverpool in a better direction in the future, Liverpool has quite good squad depth and is filled with many star players, but whether they are capable or not Competing next season still cannot be separated from Arne Slot's current strategy and experience, even though Klopp supports him and says that Liverpool are currently in good hands after he stepped down, but I think this is just lip service, because we have also heard Ferguson say this before when he decided to resign and said that his replacement at that time was the right coach for Manchester, but in fact Manchester United is getting worse like it is now.
At least give him the opportunity and time to build a squad and do his job before being judged.
Arne Slot is certainly not an experienced coach compared to Jurgen Klopp, but Arne Slot has been appointed as Liverpool's new coach who should have full support and trust from his fans. The competition for the title in the 2024-2025 season is certainly very difficult to hope for, but it is not impossible to get Liverpool into the Champions League zone.

Pep Guardiola may only have Arteta as his strongest competitor in the title race, but I try to remain optimistic that other coaches like Ten Hag, Ange Postecoglou, Unai Emery, Eddie Howe and others will give their best. Manchester City is not expected to defend its 5th title in 5 consecutive seasons, so every team in the Premier League is likely to fail it.
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Even though Manchester City managed to win consecutive trophies, but many still consider the Premier League to be the most competitive league. Because usually when only one team is able to win a trophy for at least three consecutive seasons, the league is said to be a farmers' league. But in reality, the Premier League is still very interesting to look forward to, even though in reality Manchester City still has high dominance.

There is no doubt about that, but they should not be overconfident, from what I have seen Liverpool and Arsenal are strengthening themselves very well, I am very curious about how they will perform, for me the PL is still the strongest league, of course Spanish football has a lot of power, and they have been demonstrating that, even in competitions that are for countries like the EuroCup, of course now City is one of the teams that wants to take everything, the PL and the UCL.

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Manchester City’s number one choice goalkeeper Ederson does hold a desire to leave the club this summer, and has pushed back on an opportunity to renew his contract.

Despite reporting for pre-season training at the City Football Academy last week, and travelling with the first-team squad to the United States for their tour of the country’s east coast as planned, Ederson’s future at the Etihad Stadium continues to be held in doubt.

A number of clubs from within the Saudi Pro League continue to hold interest in Ederson, with Al-Ittihad the latest poised to test Manchester City’s resolve over a £50 million asking price, following on from Al-Nassr’s withdrawal of interest.

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Well, it seems like Erik ten Hag really doesn't have a good choice when it about to buying and selling players because after all, Donny van de Beek also came from Ajax before and it's possible that Erik ten Hag brought him too at that time. But in reality, Donny van de Beek was also a loan player until he was actually sold at this moment to Girona after previously Donny van de Beek was loaned to Everton and Eintracht Frankfurt.

Thus, it seems like it would be better for Manchester United not to involve Erik ten Hag in plans to buy and sell players in this transfer market. Because after all, if Erik ten Hag is still fully involved in choosing the players who are bought and sold, then I think mistakes will still occur which will certainly be detrimental to the team.

Erik Ten Hag has got good eyesight for players. And for your information, Donny Van Dee Beek wasn't brought into Manchester United by Erik Ten Hag. He was brought in during the time of Ole Gunner Solskjaer. Even when Erik Ten Hag came in as manager of Manchester United, his statement was that, he didn't come to meet Donny Van Dee Beek the same way he was before he left Ajax for Manchester United.

Donny was loaned to Everton? I never heard shii bout that though. I'm aware he wanted a move to Frankfurt but, what I don't know is if the loan deal happened as I didn't take note.

Manchester United never had a good sporting directors and team, now they do and even before they make a move completely for a player, they also consult Erik Ten Hag because he'll be the one managing these players. He is not directly involved you see, but he needs to be updated on in's and outings. He wants to play a possession base style of football and also proactive football when off the ball.

You'll obviously need players confident on the ball and who has technique. I'm already tired of explaining shiit lol. Harry Maguire, Aaron Wan Bisakka and a couple few players do not fit in, they need to leave.
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A friendly match between Arsenal and Bournemouth ended with a final result of 5-4 (penalty). Arsenal used many of its young talents as the starting lineup in this game. Some academic players were also balling crazy against Bournemouth. I pay attention to some players who ran the show in this game.

Ode played very well in this game, and he looks several levels above everyone on the field. And again, Nwaneri had a good performance. He was a young player, but he looked very smart and ready to play with the senior players.

There is so much exciting stuff in this game. Though Arsenal won through penalties. But, it shows how Arsenal has so many great young talents, and they've all progressed. I don't mind the result as this is only a pre-season match. I'm feeling optimistic if Arsenal can enter the title race again in the upcoming season.
I think arsenal showed a good performance by fielding their second line in their first pre-season match. and yes arsenal proved that their young players are very good at playing their roles on the field. even though they could only score one goal this was a good start for arsenal in their first match, arsenal has young talents who will shine someday if trained well,

arsenal proved that they will be strong candidates to compete for the premier league title next season if the performance shown by arsenal is really stable in the pre-season matches they are currently playing, and it is not impossible that arteta will present a trophy next season.
The first pre-season match is currently not giving good results for the big English league teams, previously Manchester United, Manchester City and Chelsea got bad results from their opponents, but yesterday we also saw that Arsenal also experienced the same thing cause getting a draw from the weaker team, but what surprised me in this match was the penalty kick to determine who won at the end of the match, so far I have not seen any pre-season friendly matches that apply penalties when the two teams draw in their match, are penalties really needed in the friendly matches?
Friendly matches are just matches to test the mentality from of young players a teams, so it is quite natural that Arsenal and other big teams field the majority of their young squads in friendly matches so far, apart from that, friendly matches are also an opportunity for coaches to select young players who deserves to be in the main team next season, so now is an opportunity for young players to show their best performance and play.

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Donny van de Beek must be one of the biggest regrets for Manchester United by the way. Because they signed him for 39 million euros in 2020 but they sold him this month for only 500 thousand euros...  Sad

From now on, this team will really need to be more careful with their signings. Like I said, for now INEOS is doing a good job. Ugarte was on their radar but still not progress as far as I can see. PSG is about to make Joao Neves deal official soon. I think it should be easier to agree with PSG on Ugarte signing after that but let's see. I'm curious who else is going to leave the Red Devils this summer too. There are candidates but no action yet.

Well, it seems like Erik ten Hag really doesn't have a good choice when it about to buying and selling players because after all, Donny van de Beek also came from Ajax before and it's possible that Erik ten Hag brought him too at that time. But in reality, Donny van de Beek was also a loan player until he was actually sold at this moment to Girona after previously Donny van de Beek was loaned to Everton and Eintracht Frankfurt.

Thus, it seems like it would be better for Manchester United not to involve Erik ten Hag in plans to buy and sell players in this transfer market. Because after all, if Erik ten Hag is still fully involved in choosing the players who are bought and sold, then I think mistakes will still occur which will certainly be detrimental to the team.
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Arne slot is just a coach who has experience in the domestic league and even from his coaching history I don't see that he has experience coaching teams that play in the European league or champions league so far, to be honest for now maybe Arne slot will continue where Klopp left off at Liverpool including maintaining last season's main line up for next season, but I don't think this will guarantee that he can take Liverpool in a better direction in the future, Liverpool has quite good squad depth and is filled with many star players, but whether they are capable or not Competing next season still cannot be separated from Arne Slot's current strategy and experience, even though Klopp supports him and says that Liverpool are currently in good hands after he stepped down, but I think this is just lip service, because we have also heard Ferguson say this before when he decided to resign and said that his replacement at that time was the right coach for Manchester, but in fact Manchester United is getting worse like it is now.



In my opinion, Arne Slot will find it tough to reach Klopp's level with Liverpool; I believe Klopp claimed that Slot was the best manager to succeed with when he resigned. Well, I don't believe Arne Slot has the experience to be successful with Liverpool in his first season. I'm confident that he will take Liverpool to the next level, but they have to give him enough time to develop the team. Slot's former club's achievement is that he helped the club finish second in the league, he lacked experience competing in the Champions League, he was unable to maintain Feyenoord's position in the last Champions League, they were eliminated in the group stage, and even in the Europa League, they were eliminated by Roma in the semifinals, so Liverpool management must be patient with him because next season will be very challenging.

On the other hand, Manchester United has not had the best manager since Ferguson departure, all of the managers who have taken over the club lack the experience to bring back the club to its former success.
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Antony being bought for 80+ million was the shocking part, like who thought that would be a good idea? Anyone who watched him play, even on his ajax years, would know that dude is just a clown and that is why he didn't look like he was a serious player who can do fine at premier league. There are few Brazilians who did fine in premier league, but usually they don't, the reason is that premier league is tough and rough, whereas Brazilians are usually just talent and skill based, not grind and roughness.

So when Antony joined, he expected the famous "nearly no defense" Dutch football, but at premier league people literally tackle right to your leg, so when that happened, he realized he was nothing there. United should have seen this coming, it was obvious from a mile away, and yet they didn't.

Now, they can't sell him for 50, they can't even sell him for half of what they paid for him, what are they going to do? Even if they loan him out, and get some other team pay his salary, that still doesn't change the fact that they lost 85+ on him, and that means that INEOS taking over is a blessing for them, at least they are not making stupid moves like that anymore and fixing the situation.
I will not blame Antony because the most guilty of all this is who brought Antony to Man United. Well you yourself know the biggest mistake that Man United made was to trust someone who kept bringing players from Ajax or players who had played in the Dutch League to gather in the Premier League. I do not oppose the action but it is unethical if the priority is always to make a bad contribution on the field. Now Ineos is in control and hopes that there will be no bad recruitment for next season. Sir Jim also began to overhaul Man United's staff little by little because he felt too bored seeing the management of this club that did not bring positive points.
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A friendly match between Arsenal and Bournemouth ended with a final result of 5-4 (penalty). Arsenal used many of its young talents as the starting lineup in this game. Some academic players were also balling crazy against Bournemouth. I pay attention to some players who ran the show in this game.

Ode played very well in this game, and he looks several levels above everyone on the field. And again, Nwaneri had a good performance. He was a young player, but he looked very smart and ready to play with the senior players.

There is so much exciting stuff in this game. Though Arsenal won through penalties. But, it shows how Arsenal has so many great young talents, and they've all progressed. I don't mind the result as this is only a pre-season match. I'm feeling optimistic if Arsenal can enter the title race again in the upcoming season.
I think arsenal showed a good performance by fielding their second line in their first pre-season match. and yes arsenal proved that their young players are very good at playing their roles on the field. even though they could only score one goal this was a good start for arsenal in their first match, arsenal has young talents who will shine someday if trained well,

arsenal proved that they will be strong candidates to compete for the premier league title next season if the performance shown by arsenal is really stable in the pre-season matches they are currently playing, and it is not impossible that arteta will present a trophy next season.
As far as I saw about Arsenal in this friendly match, they did use their young players and their game was quite slick although not too good, they showed the results of their training led by Arteta against Bournemouth.

In terms of statistics, the match was quite balanced between the two teams with almost equal opportunities from both, a draw was very reasonable in this match, I like some of the potential that Arsenal wants to see.
You completely forgot that Arsenal have always been the best challengers in the English Premier League, because they have always been Manchester City's toughest competitors in the top flight, so surely they are preparing again as well as possible to be able to get the championship in the coming season now.
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Donny van de Beek must be one of the biggest regrets for Manchester United by the way. Because they signed him for 39 million euros in 2020 but they sold him this month for only 500 thousand euros...  Sad

From now on, this team will really need to be more careful with their signings. Like I said, for now INEOS is doing a good job. Ugarte was on their radar but still not progress as far as I can see. PSG is about to make Joao Neves deal official soon. I think it should be easier to agree with PSG on Ugarte signing after that but let's see. I'm curious who else is going to leave the Red Devils this summer too. There are candidates but no action yet.

There are simply no regrets in my own opinion and head. This is a huge lesson to learn from as they go into the future hoping for the best ahead. He is not the first happening this way and will not be the last happening this way. Manchester United signed players like Memphis Depay and Angel Di Maria and sold them for a much lesser fee than they bought them.

They should focus on getting things right. Who I blame all along would be the glazers, because if they had done better a d made investment back into the club, Manchester United wouldn't have been this poor over the past ten to eleven years.

Their biggest issue with incomings is that they need to sell players before they can buy. At the end of the day people will come out to say bullshit about Erik Ten Hag but they don't know how much improvements Manchester United squad need be. A while lotta players has to to leave the club for good.
Manchester United will possibly get Manual Ugarte if they Paris Saint Germans can get that you g lad from Benfica completely.
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Antony being bought for 80+ million was the shocking part, like who thought that would be a good idea? Anyone who watched him play, even on his ajax years, would know that dude is just a clown and that is why he didn't look like he was a serious player who can do fine at premier league. There are few Brazilians who did fine in premier league, but usually they don't, the reason is that premier league is tough and rough, whereas Brazilians are usually just talent and skill based, not grind and roughness.

So when Antony joined, he expected the famous "nearly no defense" Dutch football, but at premier league people literally tackle right to your leg, so when that happened, he realized he was nothing there. United should have seen this coming, it was obvious from a mile away, and yet they didn't.

Now, they can't sell him for 50, they can't even sell him for half of what they paid for him, what are they going to do? Even if they loan him out, and get some other team pay his salary, that still doesn't change the fact that they lost 85+ on him, and that means that INEOS taking over is a blessing for them, at least they are not making stupid moves like that anymore and fixing the situation.
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A friendly match between Arsenal and Bournemouth ended with a final result of 5-4 (penalty). Arsenal used many of its young talents as the starting lineup in this game. Some academic players were also balling crazy against Bournemouth. I pay attention to some players who ran the show in this game.

Ode played very well in this game, and he looks several levels above everyone on the field. And again, Nwaneri had a good performance. He was a young player, but he looked very smart and ready to play with the senior players.

There is so much exciting stuff in this game. Though Arsenal won through penalties. But, it shows how Arsenal has so many great young talents, and they've all progressed. I don't mind the result as this is only a pre-season match. I'm feeling optimistic if Arsenal can enter the title race again in the upcoming season.
I think arsenal showed a good performance by fielding their second line in their first pre-season match. and yes arsenal proved that their young players are very good at playing their roles on the field. even though they could only score one goal this was a good start for arsenal in their first match, arsenal has young talents who will shine someday if trained well,

arsenal proved that they will be strong candidates to compete for the premier league title next season if the performance shown by arsenal is really stable in the pre-season matches they are currently playing, and it is not impossible that arteta will present a trophy next season.
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Donny van de Beek must be one of the biggest regrets for Manchester United by the way. Because they signed him for 39 million euros in 2020 but they sold him this month for only 500 thousand euros...  Sad

From now on, this team will really need to be more careful with their signings. Like I said, for now INEOS is doing a good job. Ugarte was on their radar but still not progress as far as I can see. PSG is about to make Joao Neves deal official soon. I think it should be easier to agree with PSG on Ugarte signing after that but let's see. I'm curious who else is going to leave the Red Devils this summer too. There are candidates but no action yet.
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I think Liverpool fans will also have this consciousness because everyone knows that jorgen kloop was a world class coach and he totally changed the mentality of this Liverpool club and the trophies he won with them can speak for him as he also bagged the champions league trophy which is something most English club have been struggling so bad to win. So to be expecting a new coach to come in and maintain that kind of game play will be hard but it's possible so Patience and hard work will be the only way forward.
It all depends on the process that Arne Slot will go through with Liverpool players. If you look at the time he has before the League, of course Arne Slot has a great opportunity to maintain Liverpool's vision and mission. Liverpool players easily accept whoever the coach is, Arne Slot's quality has been recognized by Jurgen Klopp and is fully supported. This means that before his departure I am sure these two coaches have communicated with each other outside the stadium to share experiences. At least Jurgen Klopp has entrusted this club to the right hands.
Arne slot is just a coach who has experience in the domestic league and even from his coaching history I don't see that he has experience coaching teams that play in the European league or champions league so far, to be honest for now maybe Arne slot will continue where Klopp left off at Liverpool including maintaining last season's main line up for next season, but I don't think this will guarantee that he can take Liverpool in a better direction in the future, Liverpool has quite good squad depth and is filled with many star players, but whether they are capable or not Competing next season still cannot be separated from Arne Slot's current strategy and experience, even though Klopp supports him and says that Liverpool are currently in good hands after he stepped down, but I think this is just lip service, because we have also heard Ferguson say this before when he decided to resign and said that his replacement at that time was the right coach for Manchester, but in fact Manchester United is getting worse like it is now.

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A friendly match between Arsenal and Bournemouth ended with a final result of 5-4 (penalty). Arsenal used many of its young talents as the starting lineup in this game. Some academic players were also balling crazy against Bournemouth. I pay attention to some players who ran the show in this game.

Ode played very well in this game, and he looks several levels above everyone on the field. And again, Nwaneri had a good performance. He was a young player, but he looked very smart and ready to play with the senior players.

There is so much exciting stuff in this game. Though Arsenal won through penalties. But, it shows how Arsenal has so many great young talents, and they've all progressed. I don't mind the result as this is only a pre-season match. I'm feeling optimistic if Arsenal can enter the title race again in the upcoming season.
Arsenal football team won the against Bournemouth football team by 5-4 goals. Arsenal football team could goal only 1 in this match and both teams score was only 1 goal . Vieira did first goal of the match at the start of match and made the match interesting and after that good competition start and both teams tried to win the match. Match was decided on penalties because both teams were on same condition and umpires decided that Penalties are good for both teams because both teams want result and we saw result in the front.Semenyo did goal for the team at the 73 minutes of the match  and the shots of that team were more and the digit was 11 and shots are target were 4.
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I think Liverpool fans will also have this consciousness because everyone knows that jorgen kloop was a world class coach and he totally changed the mentality of this Liverpool club and the trophies he won with them can speak for him as he also bagged the champions league trophy which is something most English club have been struggling so bad to win. So to be expecting a new coach to come in and maintain that kind of game play will be hard but it's possible so Patience and hard work will be the only way forward.
It all depends on the process that Arne Slot will go through with Liverpool players. If you look at the time he has before the League, of course Arne Slot has a great opportunity to maintain Liverpool's vision and mission. Liverpool players easily accept whoever the coach is, Arne Slot's quality has been recognized by Jurgen Klopp and is fully supported. This means that before his departure I am sure these two coaches have communicated with each other outside the stadium to share experiences. At least Jurgen Klopp has entrusted this club to the right hands.
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Arne Slot is starting to make improvements to look for options if Mo Salah loses his productivity. Takefusa Kubo is the option chosen by Arne Slot, which can actually be considered a risky bet, but we are quite curious about what kind of format Arne wants to implement at Liverpool. Real Madrid is the club that benefits from the sale of Takefusa Kubo with a 50% share of his release clause.
Arne Slot looks very close to all the Liverpool players currently available in training. Rumors regarding Takefusa Kubo's interest in bringing him to Anfield are already known to the public. If Kubo is used as an option if Mo. Salah, I think it is the right option. Even when Mo. Salah doesn't leave, Takefuso Kubo can be a good substitute for Mo. Salah because Kubo has shown his game at the club he is currently playing for.

Yes, Mo Salah has entered the final year of his contract, although Liverpool still does not want to sell him, coach Arne Slot knows very well that he is not as fit as before. With many worries, Liverpool will enter the new season as Virgil van Dijk and Trent Alexander-Arnold are about to expire and their future is still unknown. Coach Arne Slot needs to strengthen many positions and find new tricks, and Takefusa Kubo is one of his talismans next season. Kubo can play on the left wing or as an attacking midfielder but his forte is on the left-footed right wing and looks set to replace Salah. Liverpool currently have no natural right winger apart from Mohamed Salah. Harvey Elliott could play there but has been converted to midfield, so signing Kubo could help Arne Slot solve his right-forward problem in the future.

If the Takefusa Kubo deal fails, coach Arne Slot should also consider these two stars: Khvicha Kvaratskhelia - Napoli, Leroy Sane - Bayern Munich. These are 2 players I think are also suitable for the position left by Mo Salah.
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