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so I think if Fulham can maintain their performance and consistency like this of course not impossible if they can compete to end the season in the European zone later.
Looking at the results of Fulham appearance from 10 matches in the EPL, it looks more stable with 4 wins, 3 draws and 3 losses. That's much better than last season.
On the one hand, Fulham when facing other top teams can also provide resistance even though they end up losing but at least being able to provide resistance is proof that Fulham has a chance to end up in a position to get a European league ticket.
The problem is, there is a little badness that Fulham must fix, it's just a defense that often makes mistakes.
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This situation is something that always happens but Manchester City can always fix this quickly and of course Pep will not just sit back with the results that Manchester City have now because in the end there could be some changes to replace Rodri before he is completely healed in January for player transfers, even though there is Kovacic there but it can't help much so I think Pep will work harder in the second half of the season.
Manchester City have lost three consecutive games in all competitions for the first time since 2018. A crushing defeat in the UCL continued occurred at Sporting CP's home ground led by Ruben Amorim, Manchester United's new coach. The level of competition in the EPL might increase if Amorim is able to make Manchester United perform as well as when he led Sporting CP. Guardiola must immediately anticipate the negative results achieved by his team, currently they are also starting to lag behind Liverpool by 2 points, if this situation continues, Liverpool will be more comfortable sitting at the top of the standings.
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This situation is something that always happens but Manchester City can always fix this quickly and of course Pep will not just sit back with the results that Manchester City have now because in the end there could be some changes to replace Rodri before he is completely healed in January for player transfers, even though there is Kovacic there but it can't help much so I think Pep will work harder in the second half of the season.
Yup, Pep will probably fix the situation asap. Manchester City faces a matter of urgency, their squad was very unequal because many players are injured. Manchester City was lost 3 matches in the row, and the substitution player also could not fill up the gap player. The humiliating defeat against Bournemouth makes Pep think to buy another player on winter windows transfer. If we'll see, they are not buying much another player on summer transfer which situation problem forced Pep to active on Windows transfer next. I don't know what his strategy to face Brighton on next week, because when I look how difficult him to choose an available player, I think that make manchester's performance is not good also, and most likely will play without confidence.
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If Manchester United had played against Chelsea under Ten Hag then Manchester United would have been defeated in this match because if Ten Hag would not have adopted the same strategy that Manchester United played against Chelsea then Manchester United would have failed in one more match. In this match against Chelsea when Manchester United were awarded a penalty in the 70th minute and Manchester United were able to score from that penalty I thought it might be the match winning goal for them but it was not to be. Manchester United managed to score a goal in the 70th minute but 4 minutes later Manchester United conceded another goal and this was the last goal of the match resulting in a draw. Then I would say that Manchester United definitely did well in this match.

Manchester United again? I think you want to say Chelsea because Chelsea was the team that equalised a goal in 4 minutes after the penalty, not Manchester United again. 

Although those that watch the game will see that the strategy that the new coach of Manchester United used was a very good one, because they were having a very strong defence at the same time a good attack they really tried in the game, Chelsea tried their best to see that they were able to win the game, but it was somehow tough for them. Although if it were Erick Ten Hag, Chelsea will definitely win that game, no doubt. Moreover, the acting coach of Manchester United is trying for them even though we know he will just stay for some time, but I am sure they will achieve a lot from his stay.
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For Manchester City, they are going through a challenging period both in the EPL and in the champions league, the absence of KDB and Rodri has really had a negative effect on their performance and they have fallen below expectation which to me the victory sporting had against them in the UCL was expected if we're to go by the loses they got in the EPL in their last two games.
Last season something like this also happened and it seems that for now there is still no option when Rodri and KDB cannot play at the same time.

But for the next week I think it could be better even though they will still lose Rodri for a long time but now KDB is back in the squad even though last season he was only on the bench.

This situation is something that always happens but Manchester City can always fix this quickly and of course Pep will not just sit back with the results that Manchester City have now because in the end there could be some changes to replace Rodri before he is completely healed in January for player transfers, even though there is Kovacic there but it can't help much so I think Pep will work harder in the second half of the season.
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Apart from Nottingham Forest, Chelsea are also starting to show signs of revival, their performance has started to improve since being handled by Enzo Maresca. A change of teams finishing in the top four could happen this season, Arsenal are starting to fall out of the top four and they will face a big challenge in week 11 when they travel to Chelsea headquarters.
Nottingham Forest is the only club that’s surprising me most this season, their performance has been so good since the beginning of the season, they have lost just 1 match this season, and they are currently in 3rd position, which I don’t think anyone will expect a club like Nottingham Forest to be in. I just hope they will be able to maintain their good performance, at least they should be able to qualify for the Champions League.
 
Chelsea performance has improved this season, their performance is good this season compared with last season. I know there are still some lapses in Chelsea, some positions are still weak, but I am sure Enzo Maresca will work on those positions with time, and we know Chelsea are not fighting for the league title, they just want to qualify for the Champions League next season, and if they are really serious, then they should be able to achieve that.


Nottingham Forest has been in better shape this season since I started watching them when They defeated Liverpool with a one-goal difference, and they are doing well this season. They have a match against Newcastle this weekend, and the game will be tough, as both of them won their last matches. Newcastle defeated Arsenal, and Nottingham Forest won West Ham. So the game cannot be anticipated, although I believe Nottingham Forest will have more opportunities because they are playing at home.

Chelsea is not like last season anymore, they have got a good coach and purchase a better players in the team, and anything is good for Chelsea this season, if they can continue playing like this, they can probably achieve the trophy this season because even Liverpool meet Chelsea now, you can't say they will defeat Chelsea because they are in better shape too, it's just that Liverpool have more experienced players than them and they will stress Chelsea defend because And they have a tough game against Arsenal this weekend after playing in the conference league, and I am confident Noah will be an easy defeat for Chelsea. This weekend's game will be tough against Chelsea and arsenal.
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Great performance by Liverpool tonight. They destroyed Leverkusen 4-0 at Anfield.
We can't say the same about Man City, who, surprisingly, got a pretty bad beating from Sporting and returned home with a 4-1 loss
Liverpool gave a fine show against Leverkusen last night in the champions league. Slot would appreciate Jorgen Klopp for leaving him with a standard and decent team with which he just came in and continued building on that form  now Liverpool stands in number one position on the EPL table ahead of Manchester City and Arsenal. While in the champions league they have been getting great results both home and away games.

For Manchester City, they are going through a challenging period both in the EPL and in the champions league, the absence of KDB and Rodri has really had a negative effect on their performance and they have fallen below expectation which to me the victory sporting had against them in the UCL was expected if we're to go by the loses they got in the EPL in their last two games.
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Nottingham Forest is the only club that’s surprising me most this season, their performance has been so good since the beginning of the season, they have lost just 1 match this season, and they are currently in 3rd position, which I don’t think anyone will expect a club like Nottingham Forest to be in. I just hope they will be able to maintain their good performance, at least they should be able to qualify for the Champions League.
 
Chelsea performance has improved this season, their performance is good this season compared with last season. I know there are still some lapses in Chelsea, some positions are still weak, but I am sure Enzo Maresca will work on those positions with time, and we know Chelsea are not fighting for the league title, they just want to qualify for the Champions League next season, and if they are really serious, then they should be able to achieve that.


Nottingham forest are seriously the surprise package this season, they have been playing excellent this season and even went to Liverpool’s home which is regarded as a fortress for the Reds and defeated them there. Just like what you’re saying many fans doubted about Leicester winning the league then and where all saying it is just a temporary form until they went on to it, same was also said about Aston Villa last season and they made the top four and even among those topping the table at the moment

As for Chelsea the appointment of Enzo Maresca has been favourable to them because he has definitely change the Chelsea situation and we can clearly see that this team is actually left with just some few signings before we can say they can fight for the trophy
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Apart from Nottingham Forest, Chelsea are also starting to show signs of revival, their performance has started to improve since being handled by Enzo Maresca. A change of teams finishing in the top four could happen this season, Arsenal are starting to fall out of the top four and they will face a big challenge in week 11 when they travel to Chelsea headquarters.
Nottingham Forest is the only club that’s surprising me most this season, their performance has been so good since the beginning of the season, they have lost just 1 match this season, and they are currently in 3rd position, which I don’t think anyone will expect a club like Nottingham Forest to be in. I just hope they will be able to maintain their good performance, at least they should be able to qualify for the Champions League.
 
Chelsea performance has improved this season, their performance is good this season compared with last season. I know there are still some lapses in Chelsea, some positions are still weak, but I am sure Enzo Maresca will work on those positions with time, and we know Chelsea are not fighting for the league title, they just want to qualify for the Champions League next season, and if they are really serious, then they should be able to achieve that.
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It’s true that Nottingham Forest hasn’t reached 4th place in years. But I still believe that the Premier League remains the most competitive league in the world. I’m confident Liverpool will give Manchester City a very tough competition for this year’s title, they are in good form and currently lead the table by 2 points. Some people think Manchester City has made the EPL their own, but this year could be different. If any team other than City wins the league this seasons, it will encourage other teams to strive for greatness in the EPL in the coming years.
Honestly, this season has been a bit weird at the top and this is why people love premier league so much. While yes it is true that City usually dominates, there are still teams fighting for the very top spot almost every year, like City did win these titles, but in most of them either Liverpool or arsenal tried to win it too, but that is just at the very top. When you check, you will see that even the mid table teams are doing amazing, and there are almost always stories to tell about every team.

You can literally make a docu-series for each team of every season, it's that much amazing, there is never a boring time. Notts being third is a huge story, this team is not even that old in premier league, and yet they got good enough to peak at third place so far, maybe they will finish worse as expected, but they did peak at third place already. And United, who looked much worse than Chelsea all season long, got a tie there, which is a good result when you think how bad they have been all season long.

I'm also suprised with the premier leagues table, the performance of small teams are now threathing to those big team who have good record of wining the EPL title. i've always anticipated the premier league to be very competitive this season but this was beyond my prediction. i mean what the hell happend on saturday? Only liverpool managed to deafeat their opponent, man city and arsenal lost with a goal difference. lots of gamblers lost that day because we all assumed the matches to be a workover especially for Manchester city, but it all turned out disappointing.

Should I say the Premier League competition is not really competitive this season? How I should say it is not interesting, because I was thinking the competition will be a tough one as well, but I can say it turns out to be another thing because the teams that I’m not even expecting are the ones at the top now.

Manchester City and Arsenal are still behind some teams that were not strong last season, but that is, football is not always going as we think or predict. Manchester City are finding it difficult to be at the top this season, which is surprising, honestly. But let's continue watching; nobody knows if any of these teams will get their performance back again.
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Waiting for news of Amorim's inauguration by Man United management. There is news if he will work from November 11.  There are 2 possible fates for Nistelrooy he leaves or he will remain part of the Man United coaching team. Man United legend Sheringham is not sure if Nistelrooy will stay with Amorim. But if you look at the current results he is a coach who has enough potential for the future. Now Nistelrooy still has 2 matches with Man United in the Europa League against PAOK and EPL against Leicester City.

Source: https://www.goal.com/en-om/lists/ruud-van-nistelrooy-warned-ruben-amorim-won-t-have-his-back-man-utd-new-manager-tipped-to-axe-dutchman/blt2eb4a689947fb4db#csd875dd183386b0fa

His win against city yesterday was a great one, it was a perfect send off for Sporting and a good introduction into Manchester United. Hopefully things will change but will not happen immediately.

About Ruud, would want him to stay with the incoming manager,  he is a person who understands the club in and out and knows the best way to work head to head with the new coach. I'm not expecting nothing from them but hopefully things change gradually.  PAOK and Lester are games  they can win.

That was a perfect win for Amorin and a very good way to show Manchester United's board what he's made of. I see people asking if he could come with same energy to Manchester United and make the players their play like Sport Lisbons player, what I think is it Manchester United's player can't just suddenly become as good as Sporting all of a sudden, it would take time, patience and I want to add that  from both the board and fans plus hard and dedication from the players to play close to the way Sporting Lisbon players do let's not forget that most of these United players are lazy they're not putting more effort to deliver good results and that's something Amorin needs to figure out and show them the road if they're not willing to change and do better. As for Ruud working with Amorin in the near future, I can't wait to see that happen and I know there's better days ahead for Manchester United.
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I'm also suprised with the premier leagues table, the performance of small teams are now threathing to those big team who have good record of wining the EPL title. i've always anticipated the premier league to be very competitive this season but this was beyond my prediction. i mean what the hell happend on saturday? Only liverpool managed to deafeat their opponent, man city and arsenal lost with a goal difference. lots of gamblers lost that day because we all assumed the matches to be a workover especially for Manchester city, but it all turned out disappointing.

I was pretty surprised with the way these smaller clubs are flogging the elite clubs at the time. It is also a note to the elite clubs to put their shoes up to work and stop berating the capacity of the smaller clubs. When you berate small clubs, you tentd to be picked by surprise like it has happened the week ago with many clubs aside from Liverpool.
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Waiting for news of Amorim's inauguration by Man United management. There is news if he will work from November 11.  There are 2 possible fates for Nistelrooy he leaves or he will remain part of the Man United coaching team. Man United legend Sheringham is not sure if Nistelrooy will stay with Amorim. But if you look at the current results he is a coach who has enough potential for the future. Now Nistelrooy still has 2 matches with Man United in the Europa League against PAOK and EPL against Leicester City.

Source: https://www.goal.com/en-om/lists/ruud-van-nistelrooy-warned-ruben-amorim-won-t-have-his-back-man-utd-new-manager-tipped-to-axe-dutchman/blt2eb4a689947fb4db#csd875dd183386b0fa

His win against city yesterday was a great one, it was a perfect send off for Sporting and a good introduction into Manchester United. Hopefully things will change but will not happen immediately.

About Ruud, would want him to stay with the incoming manager,  he is a person who understands the club in and out and knows the best way to work head to head with the new coach. I'm not expecting nothing from them but hopefully things change gradually.  PAOK and Lester are games  they can win.
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We can't use the past results of Chelsea vs. Manchester United to predict the upcoming game. Things have been changing a lot. I know, Manchester United always did well against the blues at Old Trafford. But statistically, Chelsea is well prepared than them.

that's enough to assume if Chelsea is a bit better than Manchester United at this moment. Importantly, Chelsea has had fewer injuries than Manchester United. So, I'm optimistic Chelsea will win soon. In Maresca we trust!
If Manchester United had played against Chelsea under Ten Hag then Manchester United would have been defeated in this match because if Ten Hag would not have adopted the same strategy that Manchester United played against Chelsea then Manchester United would have failed in one more match. In this match against Chelsea when Manchester United were awarded a penalty in the 70th minute and Manchester United were able to score from that penalty I thought it might be the match winning goal for them but it was not to be. Manchester United managed to score a goal in the 70th minute but 4 minutes later Manchester United conceded another goal and this was the last goal of the match resulting in a draw. Then I would say that Manchester United definitely did well in this match.

It was not that big of an improvement coming from Manchester United, and it was under Nistelrooy, so no major complaints. It was always supposed to be a difficult game coming, so fair play, at least they did not lose. Everyone got tired of Erik Ten Hag, so some change was very much welcomed, which was reflected throughout their performance. Everyone seemed more hungry to prove themselves before the new manager came in and joined them.

I think Enzo Maresca is settling in. It is taking time, but a new squad, a new management takes time. You can't compare Maresca to Arne Slot because what he is doing is just miraculous. No one expected that to happen.

Chelsea, if they somehow did better in terms of finishing, they could see a different ending to the match against United. They had the players they needed to win a match like that but gotta give credit to Man United for not letting Chelsea take the 50-50 chances. But if their finishing had a better day, Chelsea would have taken this match comfortably.
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After a fierce competition between Fulham and Brentford, Fulham finally managed to get 3 points in the final minutes to lock in a 2-goal victory.
Initially, Fulham was 1 goal behind Brentford, but it turned out that Fulham was able to take advantage of the final minutes when Brentford players began to lose focus.
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I personally didn't watch the match and preferred to watch the highlights after the match has over, although it was the only Premier League match played yesterday, but the mid-table team factor that played made me prefer to sleep because the match was played too late at night in my country, but seeing Fulham's two winning goals that were obtained towards the end of the match, of course it shows their mental toughness and ability to come from behind is great, the comeback to victory after a quick defeat to Brentford in that game makes me think if fulham has improved quite a lot, the arrival of players like Smith Rowe, Sender Berge and Reiss Nelson has improved their performance this season, so I think if Fulham can maintain their performance and consistency like this of course not impossible if they can compete to end the season in the European zone later.
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In the last two seasons, Arsenal started well, but in the middle of the season they declined, then improved and at the end of the season they declined again. That's why I wasn't surprised by today's result. I wouldn't consider Arsenal as the type of team that will win the Premier League. They may have a good squad, but they are inconsistent at the most important moments. Whenever they have a good chance to lead the table, they waste it and when they are lucky enough to be at the top, they also waste it. That's why in my opinion, with today's defeat, I see them outside the list of teams capable of winning the Premier League this season.
It is undeniable that it is an ingrained Arsenal problem every season that always happens, but the difference for now is not only Manchester City but also Liverpool so that indeed when problems like this have become a seasonal problem they will actually make the situation more complicated.

Now they face 2 big matches in front of their eyes where Inter in the Champions League and Chelsea are ready to be their opponents in the EPL. If in the end they lose points again in this match, it is difficult for Arsenal to be more focused on continuing the competition especially for the EPL where they are now slowly moving away from the competition.


In the last two seasons arsenal performed quite consistently and were able to become title contenders with manchester city, but if we pay attention in those two seasons they were able to avoid player injuries, but in contrast to this season which is precisely one by one their main players suffered injuries and obviously it disrupted their consistency, but I think we also cannot deny that mentality and also strong squad depth are the main factors to be able to continue to compete at the top of the english league standings, arsenal failed to take advantage of several crucial matches to be able to get points and that's why we are currently seeing them fall from the top 4 zone,
But I think, with some of their main players starting to recover now maybe we will see them back on a positive path and can continue to compete with manchester city and liverpool later, consistency is a big difference between arsenal and Manchester City and Liverpool, but I think there is still a lot of time and matches for arsenal to rise and facing chelsea next week is certainly one of the opportunities for arsenal rise and to be able to maintain their status as London rulers.
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It is worth waiting for the final result of the appearance of Nottingham Forest this season. If they succeed, the English Premier League is getting better competition to win the championship tittle at the end of the season.
Nottingham Forest has improved quite a bit this season and shown us that a club that is always in the middle of the table is not always stagnant there will be a time when they rise and compete with the top teams like they are doing now it seems like Nottingham Forest will be a dark horse club this season if they are able to survive until the end of the season in maintaining their performance and successfully finishing in the top 4 but they must be consistent and get important points in the future because clubs like Arsenal, Tottenham Hotspur, Aston Villa will fight for that position until the end of this season.
The surprise given by Nottingham Forest made the team that has consistently been in the top four have to focus more on maintaining their performance, if they make more mistakes in every match then the chance of qualifying for the UCL next season is very small. Apart from Nottingham Forest, Chelsea are also starting to show signs of revival, their performance has started to improve since being handled by Enzo Maresca. A change of teams finishing in the top four could happen this season, Arsenal are starting to fall out of the top four and they will face a big challenge in week 11 when they travel to Chelsea headquarters.
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We can't use the past results of Chelsea vs. Manchester United to predict the upcoming game. Things have been changing a lot. I know, Manchester United always did well against the blues at Old Trafford. But statistically, Chelsea is well prepared than them.

that's enough to assume if Chelsea is a bit better than Manchester United at this moment. Importantly, Chelsea has had fewer injuries than Manchester United. So, I'm optimistic Chelsea will win soon. In Maresca we trust!
If Manchester United had played against Chelsea under Ten Hag then Manchester United would have been defeated in this match because if Ten Hag would not have adopted the same strategy that Manchester United played against Chelsea then Manchester United would have failed in one more match. In this match against Chelsea when Manchester United were awarded a penalty in the 70th minute and Manchester United were able to score from that penalty I thought it might be the match winning goal for them but it was not to be. Manchester United managed to score a goal in the 70th minute but 4 minutes later Manchester United conceded another goal and this was the last goal of the match resulting in a draw. Then I would say that Manchester United definitely did well in this match.
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After a fierce competition between Fulham and Brentford, Fulham finally managed to get 3 points in the final minutes to lock in a 2-goal victory.
Initially, Fulham was 1 goal behind Brentford, but it turned out that Fulham was able to take advantage of the final minutes when Brentford players began to lose focus.
Did anyone bet and watch the match?

Fulham dominated the game, however they conceded first in the first half and were 1 goal behind until the end of the second half. At the end of the second half Fulham miraculously made 2 quick goals, both goals were scored by Harry Wilson, this must have been an amazing experience for Fulham fans and bettors who bet on Fulham to win. I didn't bet or watch this game, just saw the highlights, BTW, congrats on winning your bet slip.
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Nottingham Forest has improved quite a bit this season and shown us that a club that is always in the middle of the table is not always stagnant there will be a time when they rise and compete with the top teams like they are doing now it seems like Nottingham Forest will be a dark horse club this season if they are able to survive until the end of the season in maintaining their performance and successfully finishing in the top 4 but they must be consistent and get important points in the future because clubs like Arsenal, Tottenham Hotspur, Aston Villa will fight for that position until the end of this season.

Of course, It is not always Manchester City, Liverpool, Chelsea, and other major clubs that can finish at the top of the league, Nottingham Forest's outstanding result this season should inspire the other teams that ended up in the middle of the table to fight for a spot among the top four. It will be decided at the end of the season because, at this stage, there is no assurance that this team will maintain their winning ways through the season, most weak teams can perform well at the start of the season before declining at the end of the season.

However, Nottingham Forest needs to add more players in January in case they aim to finish in the top four this season. They will be competing with Tottenham and other top clubs fighting for the spot if they don't have strong players who can stay consistent throughout the season. We've seen Brighton compete in the previous year but their performance declined at the end of the season.
Yes we need to wait until the end of the season it is too early to speculate now because anything can happen in the middle or towards the end of the season, Nottingham Forest is an ordinary club that is trying to provide fierce competition to the top clubs this season and wants a better ranking than the previous seasons, I believe if they are consistent they can get it but yes they have to recruit quality players in the winter transfer window later to keep competing fiercely with elite clubs in the fight for the top 5.
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