Topic: ⚽ Premier League 2023/2024 Discussion Thread ⚽ - page 36. (Read 65187 times)

Some may see the match as a one that could have been a loss to Manchester United if it was a big team. Two things comes to mind at the end of this game. Firstly, this may be his first outing in the premier league and also Manchester United, so he’s just getting to know well how the pattern of play is in the league. Secondly, he may not have anything big to offer since he can’t win a small team as this in his debut for the club, fans expected more so he ought to have done better than that. He claimed the players are scared and they have to let that fear go off them before they can perform well, we await to see the change in them in their upcoming match and give Amorim a benefit of doubt as that was his first game and outing in the premier league.


Amorim talks with much confidence after he was given the mantle of leadership as the head coach of the team. He believes in himself and also feels he’ll be able to deliver the team this season. His first outing may be bad but if he’s determined and wants to really achieve what he set out to accomplish for this club, then we should be expecting something better in the coming matches he’s going to be playing with the team. I like his confidence, I just hope he can be better than the past coaches and bring the lost glory back to Manchester United once again.

I'd pick Liverpool in this game. They have my confidence to pick them as a winner. They're so clinical, deadly, consistent, and amazing. They have big chances to destroy City with many goals.

If they win against Real Madrid, their odds may be significantly declining. I don't underestimate City. I just, as a rational person, predict based on the latest stats from both clubs.

2.14 looks very decent odds from Liverpool, but the game is not really convincing me to pick total over. Liverpool may be winning with narrow score, but it's very worthy with their odds. It most likely ez money for LFC bettors.

And truth be told onana performance have improved and the habit of conceding too many goals have reduced because you will wonder what would have happened I even expected him to have been replaced but ten decided to give him another chance to actually make up for what they have been doing and if you look at it the chance he was giving is actually worth it. And if you look at the last five games thay Manchester United played they ain't bad at all at least they were able to win or even draw if not for improvement last season their defense was already bad and their goalkeeper condition is actually worst.

If not for the improvement of onana and the sack of ten they would have found their self in another worst condition because the performance of the Red Devils did not get better at all rather it was getting worse. And even Chelsea have been able to solve their own problem compare to the red Devil so it was actually time for them to improve but no they will rather do something else by losing a lot of games, and the way they were losing games thay is what would have made the manager sack ten.

That game was a great chance for Man City to turn things around and prove to the World that the bad times are behind them, and it looked like that till the 74th minute. It's incredible how Feyenoord could come back from losing 3-0 with only 16 minutes to go, playing away game against what is considered to be one of the best teams in the world. But they wouldn't have done it of not for the City's embarrassing mistakes in defence.

Man City has conceded a total of 15 goals in the last 5 games, an average of 3 goals per game. Things are not looking very great for them. They need to get themselves sorted before Sunday or they'll likely lose the Premier League title.

Amorim debut did not live up to the expectations of the fans, but it should not take away from their confidence in the new coach at this time, Manchester United are in poor shape with a lot of inequality at the club, so it will take a little longer for a coach to restore their form and consistency in the league.

I think Amorim needs a more effective approach to restore the performance of his squad, finding the right formation is one of the important first steps, especially now I think ,they are actually strengthened by quality and experienced players, but so far they notyet createthe cohesiveness and solidity to make them a strong team.

Ruben Amorim is here to fixed things and making that happen, he needs the cooperate chemistry between these players, because they're the instrument that would make it work on the pitch. However he also needs to make some fee signings of his own choice, he would explore the team to become a formidable elite team as they were once transformed to. Maintaining consistency, Manchester United should prioritize winning league matches because that's evident action following the elevation of the club this season. André Onana is one of the bright player in Manchester United. The Cameroon is having one of the promising view of the club, he's trying so hard to fit into the system, it'd all matter of time for proper execution from the goalkeeper.

To be honest, I was expecting this result from this match. When M. Rashford scored the first goal in the 2nd minute of the match, they should have made more goals but Ipswich town didn't let them. Head to head, they have played 11 matches in total in which Manchester United won 5 matches. It was the 2nd win for Ipswich against Man United.

After this match, Manchester United stood on the 12 number (winning only 4 matches) while Ipswich Town on the 18th position.  Manchester United's performance hasn't been good. They win 4 games but at the same time lost 4 games too and four games were drawn too.

There is a Liverpool - Manchester City game in a few days. It is a really crucial one considering the title competition.



Here is the odds.

I would even expect Liverpool to have lower odds than that honestly.    Because Manchester City have been experiencing really tough days recently. Did you see how Feyenoord got a point from them at Etihad by coming back from a 3-0 disadvantage?

Guardiola and his students are in a devastated condition. While Liverpool are doing great I think they are a serious favourite to win this game. There is a huge opportunity to make the gap 11 points. I wouldn't even be surprised if Arne Slot does some rotation against Real Madrid today.

Yes, not just about his quality saves and performance in the last game, but when compared to the last season his performance has really increased and if Manchester United defense line and the team generally will become formidable, then from what we can see that Onana is doing presently in the goal post, and he can maintain consistency, he's no longer going to be Manchester major problem going forward , like before.

Onana did play inconsistently, his performance sometimes still went up and down. But seeing his game yesterday, we can see his response to the ball's direction seems to have improved. He did it quite well.
Their new coach wants to see Onana's game be good and consistent. That will make him stay in the team, if not maybe he will also be released or even replaced with another goalkeeper if he doesn't play well.
Amorim will build his team, not only in their front line but also in the defense. We'll see later.

If the opponent was not Ipswich, then I would also say it is reasonable for a draw result like that. But, because Manchester United opponent is only a promotion team Ipswich who is also in the bottom zone of the standings and then, this draw result is still a bad result and a bad debut for Amorim. After all, I also watched the match and in fact, Manchester United indeed play badly, Manchester United did not have a good performance like when it was with Ruud Van Nistelrooy.

After all, the reason Manchester United still appointed Amorim as a head coach was also because Manchester United believed that Amorim had quality. Do not let, because this reason is only about a debut  and takes time, but the fact remains that there is no good change for Manchester United from time to time. Because after all, about the previous coaches who got fired also at the beginning they were given the same time as is happening now, but in the end they still failed.

In fact, the draw that Amorim got at the beginning of his coaching in handling Manchester United was indeed not easy, but this draw was a positive result for Amorim so at least it gave him the opportunity to continue to provide support to him, and also the spirit in overhauling the current players, it takes adjustments in providing tactics from the players handled by Ten Hag before, so no matter how great the coach is, it needs what is called adjustment and adaptation from the Portuguese League to the English League in terms of the game, there must be a difference in the scheme.

Onana providing that one point to United was the unexpected part, he is usually the worst one, and to be fair he almost got the goal they conceded as well, he was reaching it but defender put his head in, if it didn't touch United players, Onana would have saved that one too, which shows how amazing he could become when he is playing a good game, normally he isn't that great but this inconsistency is the reason fans are not sure about him.

De Gea for example had a level, he wasn't the greatest goalkeeper ever, but he had a level and he always played at that level, maybe he had some good games and bad games too, but not this volatile at all, Onana's best game is by far better than anything De Gea has ever done in all the years he was at United, but also Onana's worst game is much worse than a fifth division goalkeeper as well, I still remember the UCL game against Galatasaray they had, I could have done better lol. So, it's definitely a questionable situation.

Who's facing difficulties at Old Trafford, the players or the new manager? There's absolutely nothing to comment about currently because the players are yet to get really along with the new coach. Amorim needs more time to make perfect executive strategy for the club, let's see how things go from his ends as manager.

Accomplish great outcome for Manchester United, there are new set of strategies and signings to reach his ultimate goals. I strongly believe the new manager will make things very serious at Old Trafford. He's competent to handle this position, he's always one step ahead at former team, Sporting CP. Perhaps this is England and there are new oppositions for him, Amorim will make things happen. Ruben Amorim will trigger changes in the Manchester United team January transfer window. The manager have promising plans for the team, we're watching him closely, he draw his first game and we see as that's going for the club.

Even though their current momentum is quite good where they get 2 wins in the previous 2 weeks, it cannot be maximized properly in this match. In addition, we also know that this home game is clearly favorable for them but surprises really happen in this match.

But it cannot be denied that in the end we are also aware that Newcastle's current performance is still erratic so indeed this defeat is still fairly reasonable in the end.
Consistency is still a problem that Newcastle still cannot solve well and it is evident in several matches they have played including in this match that they are still experiencing several problems including finishing and cooperation in their defense.

I will not say that Amorim's debut at Manchester United was a less satisfactory debut because we all know the situation that surrounds Manchester United, and we can't expect Amorim to perform miracles or magic at Manchester United at this time. Ipswich dominated Manchester United in this match, and if not that Manchester United scored an early goal against them, Ipswich would have beaten Manchester United in this match. Finding the right formation to use for this current Manchester United squad will not totally solve Manchester United problems. Manchester United needs some good players who can help the club play well and challenge for the league title.

Any Manchester united fan who feels disappointed about the Ipswich - Manchester united scoreline result is really frank with himself because from what we all know that this United team is very below any surprising performance at the moment and Amorim can't come in within a few days and create a sudden upset.

Ruud  Van Nistelrooy only had to maintain the style of play of ETH in the Manchester way as an assistant manager who knew what the players are already accustomed to. On the flip side, Amorim is altering the accustomed pattern and it's going to take a length of time to have the team start playing good football in the tactics and pattern of the new coach. Also follows will be the signing of new good players and letting go of existing not needed players in the team but all of these has to be on a gradual process.

Come on guys, I think 1 draw that Amorim got shouldn't make us compare him to Nistelrooy, Amorim has just coached Manchester United and in a short period of time of course he won't be able to change Manchester United for the better unless he has a magic wand in his hand, we know how Manchester United went down before so it's natural that fans have high expectations for Amorim at the moment,  Especially after he managed to beat Manchester City in the Champions League match, but even so, fans should still support Amorim with time and also great trust for him can restore Manchester United performance later.

This is indeed a big deal for Liverpool to be able to widen the points gap by beating Manchester City in the next meeting, but even though they are in a slump, the Manchester City team cannot be underestimated, they have everything to be able to rise at any time, especially when playing against Liverpool, of course the Manchester City team has a much higher motivation to be able to win the match.

It's too early to say that, Manchester City still has a chance to compete for the title and they are even favored to defend the title.
The journey this season is still very long and what the Manchester City team is experiencing right now is a natural thing, they can still rise and I believe that.

Yea you are actually right here, they should just give the man a break, he is not the cause of the club failure during the tenure of Eric ten hang, this Manchester united team has regress so much under the leadership of Eric ten hang, so a lot of works needs to be done to return Manchester united back to it glory days, so he needs a whole lot of time to pass his coaching ideas and playing system across the minds of all his players, so Manchester united fan should just let him be.

I know that most of their fans are now comparing him to rud van nistelrooy, in my own opinion that's not a good idea, because rud van nistelrooy knows the club and the player more better than him, so he needs time to know the quality of his players, so that he can establish a playing system that best suit them, so time is very much essential, and that what he needs.