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Quote from: davis196 on January 15, 2025, 02:47:39 AM

I think that, right now, Liverpool is the strongest team in England and yet they still have difficulties at winning against a team like Nottingham Forest. Liverpool had 70% ball possession and lots of missed goal opportunities, while Nottingham had a great goalkeeper.
Nottingham Forest is the big surprise of the Premier League and I really want them to finish at Top 3, but it would really difficult for them to compete against Arsenal and Chelsea. Manchester City failed to keep two goals in advance against Brentford. Maybe Guardiola's divorce is one of the reason why Manchester City is so inconsistent and weal. There's no doubt that Liverpool will become champions.

As far as this season is concerned, Nottingham forest is not a small team. If you check very well Nottingham forest has been in the top 4 for a long time now they have been maintaining their consistency. Liverpool has a hard time to break them because they are very strong in defence. Liverpool are even lucky to have rescued a point against Nottingham forest. Just to let you know that Nottingham forest are going to finish in the top 4 this season. Because with the kind of performance they put up yesterday, if a team that's as good as Liverpool couldn't defeat them, which other team will be able to stop them? Unless injuries sets in and disrupt the team, that's only when will see them suffering and dropping points. It looks like it's now becoming a norm in the premier League, that every new season, a new team that's outside the traditional 6 will rise up and take a position in the top 4.

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Quote from: AprilioMP on January 15, 2025, 02:47:34 AM

Manchester City balanced. Chelsea draw. Liverpool draw. Incredible Premier League. Surely many have lost money. LOL

Now we review. Manchester City has 70% win because the score is 0-2. In fact Brentford equated a score of two goals in 10 minutes.
Chelsea won but Bournemouth was able to turn things around to 1-2. Finally the final minute drama made a draw.
How about Liverpool? Describe yourself. Crazy.

Manchester City lost a 2-0 lead advantage... They were so close to making the winning streak 3 games but Brentford made a huge comeback in the last 10 minutes. The defensive vulnerabilities still persist for Guardiola's students. Sad

I got disappointed with Chelsea once again. They could have even lost if it weren't for Reece James' late goal. They are also unreliable to bet on just like Manchester City these days.

And lastly Liverpool... They were terrible in the first half but they got better later on. They could have won actually but they wasted unbelievable amount of big goal opportunities. A bad day it was for them.

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Quote from: Woodie on January 14, 2025, 11:54:34 PM

Looking at how City played last night, I really don't think we can put all the blame on Pep which is so unfair right now especially after speculation of his marital status surfaced online...
And analyzing the game well the Citizens could have never thrown away a 2 goal lead with 10 minutes to go, but whatever happened last night is on the players..though credit should go to Brentford for their belief to get something out of the game because they never gave up and really put pressure on City and got 2 goals back to steal a point.

Well played Brentford.

Brentford performed well, they did not take Manchester City easily after conceding two goals, and they pressured the visitors till they scored two goals in the space of ten minutes. Brentford deserved to win the game, but they were saved by Aké, a Manchester City defender, who stopped a chance in the final minute. Manchester City's defensive line remains an issue; if the City defense was good, they would not have let the first goal to Yoane Wissa in the 82 minute when they were already leading.

Many people believe that Manchester City has returned to winning ways after two straight Premier League victories. Of course, we can't blame Guardiola for their failure to gain all three points, but the players are bad, they might have played well defensively when they were ahead by two goals, but they may have underestimated Brentford's players and conceded two goals to level the game. However, the City's defense will be stronger soon since they have signed more players.

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Quote from: Woodie on January 14, 2025, 11:54:34 PM

Looking at how City played last night, I really don't think we can put all the blame on Pep which is so unfair right now especially after speculation of his marital status surfaced online...
And analyzing the game well the Citizens could have never thrown away a 2 goal lead with 10 minutes to go, but whatever happened last night is on the players..though credit should go to Brentford for their belief to get something out of the game because they never gave up and really put pressure on City and got 2 goals back to steal a point.

Well played Brentford.

I think it is the responsibility of the team to produce a good result at all times despite what is happening in the team, Manchester City find the match a bit difficult right from the beginning because seeing how they went from 0:0 in the first half until P. Foden saw the back of the net twice in the 66 minutes and 78 minutes shows that they struggled in the game. Concerning how they couldn't defend the two goals, I think the problem is not really about what is happening to their coach Pep Guardiola and his personal issues but to the team who has been struggling lately in their performance. I blame Pep Guardiola for not making the right changes when they were leading 0:2 because losing 2 goals for them means losing the game because they had just 10 minutes to defend and the 3 points would be their own but they let it go just like that. Kudos to the Brentford team for being relentless in their performance they deserved the goals and the come back shows how much effort they put into the game, all the blame should goal to the players for not saving Pep Guardiola in this difficult time because a win for the team would have calmed him a little bit.

I have always said that City hasn't found their bearing yet, because this is how the game has always been apart from their two previous matches that they managed to win, and that was because they played with weak teams. City will take the lead but will not be able to defend the goals.

A lot needs to be done on the players, I think it's time for reshuffling. The earlier Pep understands this, the better for him. The players performance is declining.

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Quote from: AprilioMP on January 15, 2025, 02:47:34 AM

Manchester City balanced. Chelsea draw. Liverpool draw. Incredible Premier League. Surely many have lost money. LOL

Now we review. Manchester City has 70% win because the score is 0-2. In fact Brentford equated a score of two goals in 10 minutes.
Chelsea won but Bournemouth was able to turn things around to 1-2. Finally the final minute drama made a draw.
How about Liverpool? Describe yourself. Crazy.

It was actually a coincidence yesterday seeing the big teams played draw. Chelsea amongst others played the most dissatisfying game and were very lucky get away with a point. As for Liverpool, they obviously can't win all the games. Nothingham Forest is a very good team and probably the most informed team in the league right now.

Although, Liverpool had chances to make a difference especially in the second half but they were not clinical enough. It's now two points in two matches for Liverpool. I have said it before that Liverpool performance wasn't the same since their encounter with Manchester United but I will still observe them in their next match to know if they are really getting themselves back to olden days. As for Chelsea, they either get themselve a clinical striker or forget about making top four this season.

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Quote from: AprilioMP on January 15, 2025, 02:47:34 AM

Manchester City balanced. Chelsea draw. Liverpool draw. Incredible Premier League. Surely many have lost money. LOL

Now we review. Manchester City has 70% win because the score is 0-2. In fact Brentford equated a score of two goals in 10 minutes.
Chelsea won but Bournemouth was able to turn things around to 1-2. Finally the final minute drama made a draw.
How about Liverpool? Describe yourself. Crazy.

I didn't expect Liverpool to win, Nottingham is a very strong team and this result can be considered expected, and as for the loss of points by Chelsea and especially City, this is unexpected, especially since it seemed that after 0-2 City were obliged to bring this match to victory, but in the end there was disappointment again and only a draw, although it would be very good for them to take advantage of the fact that the teams above them are losing points.

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Quote from: AprilioMP on January 15, 2025, 02:47:34 AM

How about Liverpool? Describe yourself. Crazy.

Of all the games yesterday, the N. Forest vs Liverpool game was the most obvious for me. Based on the form Norhinham Forest is in right now and the way Liverpool has been dropping points recently, I knew Nottingham Forst had a big chance of getting a point.
Also, when I consider the fact that Liverpool's only loss in the league this season has come against Nottingham Forest, I knew it was going to be a difficult game for Liverpool. I mean these guys beat Liverpool at Anfield so I couldn't put anything past them.
In yesterday's game, Liverpool just kept giving away goal-scoring opportunities and even Salah was horrible to watch. All things consider, Liverpool were lucky to get a draw and they were lucking every other club that could challenge for the title also couldn't win their games.

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I think that, right now, Liverpool is the strongest team in England and yet they still have difficulties at winning against a team like Nottingham Forest. Liverpool had 70% ball possession and lots of missed goal opportunities, while Nottingham had a great goalkeeper.
Nottingham Forest is the big surprise of the Premier League and I really want them to finish at Top 3, but it would really difficult for them to compete against Arsenal and Chelsea. Manchester City failed to keep two goals in advance against Brentford. Maybe Guardiola's divorce is one of the reason why Manchester City is so inconsistent and weal. There's no doubt that Liverpool will become champions.

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Manchester City balanced. Chelsea draw. Liverpool draw. Incredible Premier League. Surely many have lost money. LOL

Now we review. Manchester City has 70% win because the score is 0-2. In fact Brentford equated a score of two goals in 10 minutes.
Chelsea won but Bournemouth was able to turn things around to 1-2. Finally the final minute drama made a draw.
How about Liverpool? Describe yourself. Crazy.

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Quote from: Woodie on January 14, 2025, 11:54:34 PM

Looking at how City played last night, I really don't think we can put all the blame on Pep which is so unfair right now especially after speculation of his marital status surfaced online...
And analyzing the game well the Citizens could have never thrown away a 2 goal lead with 10 minutes to go, but whatever happened last night is on the players..though credit should go to Brentford for their belief to get something out of the game because they never gave up and really put pressure on City and got 2 goals back to steal a point.

Well played Brentford.

I think it is the responsibility of the team to produce a good result at all times despite what is happening in the team, Manchester City find the match a bit difficult right from the beginning because seeing how they went from 0:0 in the first half until P. Foden saw the back of the net twice in the 66 minutes and 78 minutes shows that they struggled in the game. Concerning how they couldn't defend the two goals, I think the problem is not really about what is happening to their coach Pep Guardiola and his personal issues but to the team who has been struggling lately in their performance. I blame Pep Guardiola for not making the right changes when they were leading 0:2 because losing 2 goals for them means losing the game because they had just 10 minutes to defend and the 3 points would be their own but they let it go just like that. Kudos to the Brentford team for being relentless in their performance they deserved the goals and the come back shows how much effort they put into the game, all the blame should goal to the players for not saving Pep Guardiola in this difficult time because a win for the team would have calmed him a little bit.

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Quote from: pawel7777 on January 14, 2025, 06:43:06 PM

I sense that many betting coupons got spoiled today. 4 games, 3 draws, with clear favourites splitting points with underdogs.
Fairly good performance by Man City, but it must've been frustrating to go from 2-0 to 2-2 in the very last minutes of the game. Still, I don't think they should be too ashamed.

Nottm Forest got their 7-win streak broken by Liverpool. I'm not very surprised by the result and expected a draw. Liverpool was clearly dominating, but Forest's style is efficiency not dominance, so nothing new here.

Arsenal now have a good chance to jump back in the 2nd place and close the distance to Liverpool, all they have to do is to win with Tottenham tomorrow, but it might not be easy.

Yesterday's match results were not good at all and no one will tell me that what he expected from yesterday's matches is what he saw after the match, All the small teams dominated the big teams yesterday, Manchester City, Liverpool and Chelsea were dominated by Nottingham Forest, Bournemouth and Brentford, these small team's played well yesterday, although I was not surprised about Liverpool ending the match draw because I know that Nottingham Forest will not allow Liverpool to win the match because Nottingham Forest is very good this season and they have defeated many big teams as well.

The surprise game yesterday was the game of Chelsea vs Bournemouth and Manchester City vs Brentford, I expect Chelsea and Manchester City to win the match because Chelsea and Manchester City are better than their opponent, if Newcastle wins their today game Chelsea will no longer be at top 4 in the League table again, I remember when Enzo Maresca said that they are not title contenders I think he knows that Chelsea players are not serious that is why he said that.

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Quote from: Woodie on January 14, 2025, 11:54:34 PM

Looking at how City played last night, I really don't think we can put all the blame on Pep which is so unfair right now especially after speculation of his marital status surfaced online...
And analyzing the game well the Citizens could have never thrown away a 2 goal lead with 10 minutes to go, but whatever happened last night is on the players..though credit should go to Brentford for their belief to get something out of the game because they never gave up and really put pressure on City and got 2 goals back to steal a point.

Well played Brentford.

Manchester city players were playing a very good game last night not until Pep Guardiola had to make the substitutions that shifted the game away from City's side. Before the subs that brought in Gundogan and McAtee Manchester city were already leading with 2 goals dominating the game but immediately Pep made those changes Brentford got an upper hand equalising the scores within the next 10 minutes to the end of the game.

So I think Pep partly needs blamed here for making substitutions that were unnecessary at a moment when the game was already about to end in their favour. And by stats the two subs had a poor show compared to Covacic and Foden that were taken off the field in their stead. There are games a coach get to spoil by making wrong changes and this game was just one of many I have seen. On the part of Brentford, I applaud their resilience to getting a point in the game, we don't get to see such upset regularly from an underdog side

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No Premier League games this weekend and we'll have to wait till Tue for another round. To me, the most interesting game of the matchday 21 is Nottm Forest Vs Liverpool.
The odds for that game are:

Nottm Forest: x4.50
Draw: x4.00
Liverpool: x1.70

This looks about right, but maybe Nottm Forest are underestimated a bit. They are on 6 wins streak, while Liverpool lost the 1 leg semi-final against Tottenham and split points at home with troubled Man United.
What's a bit strange is that both teams tend to perform slightly better in away games than at home (the difference is negligible though).

Liverpool football team has more chances of win but this doesn't mean Nottingham Forest football team could not win this match.Nottingham Forest football team played very well in last matches and they won last 5 matches which is excellent performance by that team. I think that match will be interesting for the fans because both teams will give hundred percent to win this match and we will get good match .But Liverpool defender is unfit which will be big loss for that team and that player name is Gomez and Núñez is suspended in this match and these points are in the favour of Nottingham Forest team but we want good match . Nottingham Forest also one player is injured but it will not as impact as the injured players of Liverpool will impact on the result of match.

It's more than 1.6 for Liverpool, which is considerably big. Yeah they have greater chance to win, but possible to get draw. I'm favoring Liverpool, but they have to fine Forest's weakness.

In fact, Forest is as strong as Liverpool. They may have less goals scored than Liverpool, but have same goal conceded. It means Nottingham forest is also having solid defense, which may be threatening Liverpool's chance to win. The home game is also boosting Nottingham's mentality. Nuno is probably preparing a surprise.

I'm feeling they will share point in this game.

I knew it was going to be a tight game for Liverpool yesterday considering the fact that Nottingham forest are also fighting to be at the top this season, your speculations about the game were on point, Liverpool struggled to deliver because Nottingham team is also as good as they are.forest played from home and this made them more active, I'm actually impressed with their performance because I have not seen them perform like this in the previous seasons. This is why in sports betting odds can be misleading some gamblers would think that Liverpool can easily win because of the odds given to them, the sportsbook know what they are doing, it's all a way to trap you. When selecting tight games like this go for the over market.

Agreed. I was hoping Liverpool to won it, but the odds prevented me. An away game with the odds more than 1,5 ++ is always doubting me to pick it. Liverpool is at the top position, and if they could easily win the game, the odds should be under 1.5.

Lucky me i was avoiding it, and took alternative bet. This kind of game is always hard to predict. This is because Nottingham forest can't be underestimated at this moment.

As Liverpool is competing for the trophy, and getting draw is a big disappointment.

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Quote from: Awaklara on January 13, 2025, 01:54:50 PM

This season Nottingham is developing very well. They will play at home and of course, will give their best. Although Liverpool will be more favored, I still believe Nottingham will give a fight that might surprise Liverpool, like they did when they faced Liverpool last time. If Nottingham can beat Liverpool, then they have done an extraordinary achievement. Not to exaggerate, but now they are in competition with Arsenal, of course, even if it is a draw, it will mean a lot to them.

Today's match results were very surprising, Liverpool, Manchester City and Chelsea were held to a draw and failed to bring home 3 points. In my opinion, all the opponents they faced gave an extraordinary game. Nottingham Forest opened with the first goal in the first half, a season where Nottingham has not been able to make them bow their knees even though they played at their opponent's home, they seemed to know how to stop Liverpool movement. But strangely on the other side Manchester City who were already 2 goals ahead had to be held back by 2 goals in reply in crucial minutes. This is a strong reason for how inconsistent Manchester City is after the last 2 matches with wins and returning to their bad performance.

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No Premier League games this weekend and we'll have to wait till Tue for another round. To me, the most interesting game of the matchday 21 is Nottm Forest Vs Liverpool.
The odds for that game are:

Nottm Forest: x4.50
Draw: x4.00
Liverpool: x1.70

This looks about right, but maybe Nottm Forest are underestimated a bit. They are on 6 wins streak, while Liverpool lost the 1 leg semi-final against Tottenham and split points at home with troubled Man United.
What's a bit strange is that both teams tend to perform slightly better in away games than at home (the difference is negligible though).

Liverpool football team has more chances of win but this doesn't mean Nottingham Forest football team could not win this match.Nottingham Forest football team played very well in last matches and they won last 5 matches which is excellent performance by that team. I think that match will be interesting for the fans because both teams will give hundred percent to win this match and we will get good match .But Liverpool defender is unfit which will be big loss for that team and that player name is Gomez and Núñez is suspended in this match and these points are in the favour of Nottingham Forest team but we want good match . Nottingham Forest also one player is injured but it will not as impact as the injured players of Liverpool will impact on the result of match.

It's more than 1.6 for Liverpool, which is considerably big. Yeah they have greater chance to win, but possible to get draw. I'm favoring Liverpool, but they have to fine Forest's weakness.

In fact, Forest is as strong as Liverpool. They may have less goals scored than Liverpool, but have same goal conceded. It means Nottingham forest is also having solid defense, which may be threatening Liverpool's chance to win. The home game is also boosting Nottingham's mentality. Nuno is probably preparing a surprise.

I'm feeling they will share point in this game.

I knew it was going to be a tight game for Liverpool yesterday considering the fact that Nottingham forest are also fighting to be at the top this season, your speculations about the game were on point, Liverpool struggled to deliver because Nottingham team is also as good as they are.forest played from home and this made them more active, I'm actually impressed with their performance because I have not seen them perform like this in the previous seasons. This is why in sports betting odds can be misleading some gamblers would think that Liverpool can easily win because of the odds given to them, the sportsbook know what they are doing, it's all a way to trap you. When selecting tight games like this go for the over market.

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Looking at how City played last night, I really don't think we can put all the blame on Pep which is so unfair right now especially after speculation of his marital status surfaced online...
And analyzing the game well the Citizens could have never thrown away a 2 goal lead with 10 minutes to go, but whatever happened last night is on the players..though credit should go to Brentford for their belief to get something out of the game because they never gave up and really put pressure on City and got 2 goals back to steal a point.

Well played Brentford.

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Quote from: pawel7777 on January 14, 2025, 06:43:06 PM

I sense that many betting coupons got spoiled today. 4 games, 3 draws, with clear favourites splitting points with underdogs.
Fairly good performance by Man City, but it must've been frustrating to go from 2-0 to 2-2 in the very last minutes of the game. Still, I don't think they should be too ashamed.

Nottm Forest got their 7-win streak broken by Liverpool. I'm not very surprised by the result and expected a draw. Liverpool was clearly dominating, but Forest's style is efficiency not dominance, so nothing new here.

Arsenal now have a good chance to jump back in the 2nd place and close the distance to Liverpool, all they have to do is to win with Tottenham tomorrow, but it might not be easy.

I don't know if Nottingham forest is to be known as underdogs this season or not. I say this because seeing them in the second position is not what I expected, but they have surprised me. They have been having a winning streak and surprisingly they didn't lose to the most favourable title contenders - Liverpool.

It is obvious that nothing will shiver Nottingham Forest as long as this season is concerned. They have gained their full confidence, since Liverpool is unable to beat them today, I don't think that anyone can do that, that is there mindset now and it is positive enough to keep them going.

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I sense that many betting coupons got spoiled today. 4 games, 3 draws, with clear favourites splitting points with underdogs.
Fairly good performance by Man City, but it must've been frustrating to go from 2-0 to 2-2 in the very last minutes of the game. Still, I don't think they should be too ashamed.

Nottm Forest got their 7-win streak broken by Liverpool. I'm not very surprised by the result and expected a draw. Liverpool was clearly dominating, but Forest's style is efficiency not dominance, so nothing new here.

Arsenal now have a good chance to jump back in the 2nd place and close the distance to Liverpool, all they have to do is to win with Tottenham tomorrow, but it might not be easy.

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Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on January 13, 2025, 02:39:29 PM

Feeling quite nervous about the Liverpool game tomorrow to be honest. We have lost one game in the league all season and it was to them. I think we underestimated them that day and it was our undoing in a 1-0 loss. Let’s be honest, we are better than them all over the pitch. Player for player we are better than them in every position. Football doesn’t always work like that though and they’re having an unbelievable season.

I really want to see a season defining win tomorrow by Liverpool, a real statement victory. We need to go there, assert our dominance and come home with the 3 points. I’ve been reading a Nottingham Forest fans forum, they seem very confident that they’ll beat us. We have a fully fit squad right now apart from Joe Gomez. I want to see us go there and batter them. Come on Liverpool!

I'm also rooting for Liverpool to win, as a Liverpool fan I even bet on them to win. But now that I'm seeing the formation that the Liverpool coach will use, it's making me a little worried because he put Luiz Diaz in a position that in my opinion is not very well explored by him, the one who should be in that position should be Cody Gakpo and Luiz Diaz should be in the position that Cody Gakpo is currently occupying, but I'm not the Liverpool coach and I believe that the Liverpool coach knows what he's doing.

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Quote from: pawel7777 on January 11, 2025, 09:13:31 AM

No Premier League games this weekend and we'll have to wait till Tue for another round. To me, the most interesting game of the matchday 21 is Nottm Forest Vs Liverpool.
The odds for that game are:

Nottm Forest: x4.50
Draw: x4.00
Liverpool: x1.70

This looks about right, but maybe Nottm Forest are underestimated a bit. They are on 6 wins streak, while Liverpool lost the 1 leg semi-final against Tottenham and split points at home with troubled Man United.
What's a bit strange is that both teams tend to perform slightly better in away games than at home (the difference is negligible though).

Liverpool football team has more chances of win but this doesn't mean Nottingham Forest football team could not win this match.Nottingham Forest football team played very well in last matches and they won last 5 matches which is excellent performance by that team. I think that match will be interesting for the fans because both teams will give hundred percent to win this match and we will get good match .But Liverpool defender is unfit which will be big loss for that team and that player name is Gomez and Núñez is suspended in this match and these points are in the favour of Nottingham Forest team but we want good match . Nottingham Forest also one player is injured but it will not as impact as the injured players of Liverpool will impact on the result of match.

It's more than 1.6 for Liverpool, which is considerably big. Yeah they have greater chance to win, but possible to get draw. I'm favoring Liverpool, but they have to fine Forest's weakness.

In fact, Forest is as strong as Liverpool. They may have less goals scored than Liverpool, but have same goal conceded. It means Nottingham forest is also having solid defense, which may be threatening Liverpool's chance to win. The home game is also boosting Nottingham's mentality. Nuno is probably preparing a surprise.

I'm feeling they will share point in this game.

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