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Quote from: Pokapoka124 on January 15, 2025, 02:03:23 PM

Yes Liverpool are the strongest and the best team in the EPL right now. Having difficulties at winning against a team like Nottingham Forest shows that how unpredictable and competitive the Premier League is.

Nottingham Forest's performance has been so good this season, they are currently in 2rd position. I expected the match to be difficult for Liverpool because we saw how Nottingham Forest has been playing and how they played against Liverpool in the first leg. They are the only club that has been able to get a win against Liverpool: Nottingham Forest, so I expected yesterday’s match to be so difficult for Liverpool, and Liverpool couldn’t get a win in the match, they could only get a draw.

I agree that Liverpool is still the best club in the Premier League, but I am still expecting some matches to be difficult for Liverpool. We don’t expect Liverpool to win all their matches, even as they have the best performance currently.

Quote from: Pokapoka124 on January 15, 2025, 02:03:23 PM

Nottingham Forest have been on fire this season in the EPL and I wish they can maintain this performance through out and also secure a spot that will make them play Champions League football next season.

Let’s hope they will be able to maintain their good performance. I never expected their performance to be so good, I have been expecting their performance to drop, but as we can see, Nottingham Forest is doing everything possible to maintain their good performance. Let’s just hope their performance doesn’t drop.

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Arsenal is losing at home. Son gave Tottenham Huspurs the lead and the Gunners are seeking ways to get an equalizer. It seems the absence of Bukayo Saka had affected Arsenal and they now struggle to win games. There is still more time to play and I hope Mikel Arteta will be able to win this game to enable them to take advantage of the point drop by Liverpool and Nottingham Forest.

Edit: The game is now I-1 after Arsenal got a goal through an own goal by Solanke in the 40th minute. The game is now open for both teams to clinch the three points.

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Quote from: hyudien on January 15, 2025, 09:28:12 AM

Week 21 is an important week for Arsenal to shift Nottingham Forest in 2nd position who were held to a draw by Liverpool yesterday. Unfortunately, the 3 points are not easy to win from Tottenham, because every time they meet, not many goals are scored. Based on the chances, the home team seems to be favored with 1.36x, the temptation comes from Tottenham with 7.80 so do you dare to drop it to the away team?

I just checked on my signature Rollbit to confirm the same odds at 7.80 for Spurs and I think the bookies are really being generous with that odd. Arsenal are not as good as they’ve used to be, Saka is out except we are expecting him back with some surprises, G. Jesus is out injured as well and Havertz isn’t any reliable to get many balls on target. Spurs on the other hand, they’ve got a good force in Solanke, Son and Maddison. They look more than capable to get something out of this fixture for such an odd.

The bookmakers have their algorithm to decide the odds and with the statistics so far, you will justify the odds they set. But on the other hand, Tottenham is not as weak as they depicted. Solanke has been on a great form and with Son also in the front will give a great balance compared to Sterling, Harverts and Trossard combination. I don't know why Arteta decided to play Trossard ahead of Martinelli which I know Martinelli gives more pressure than Trossard.

Now that Tottenham is leading by a goal, Arsenal need to work their ass out this time around to equalize and possibly make a win.

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Quote from: hyudien on January 15, 2025, 09:28:12 AM

Week 21 is an important week for Arsenal to shift Nottingham Forest in 2nd position who were held to a draw by Liverpool yesterday. Unfortunately, the 3 points are not easy to win from Tottenham, because every time they meet, not many goals are scored. Based on the chances, the home team seems to be favored with 1.36x, the temptation comes from Tottenham with 7.80 so do you dare to drop it to the away team?

Why is Arsenal's odd so high considering the fact things hasn't been too good in their last few games. Too many problems for them at the moment, so I can't make predictions for the game. I'm not even sure if Arsenal can score a goal in this game because they've always struggled to score open play goals. Still don't know why the management is not interested in strengthening the attack, even though they've been able to do that in the defensive backline over the years.

It's a North London derby, and arsenal fans won't take any excuse. All 3 points will do them more good in moving further on the table. A draw or loss reduces their chance further in the title race. Good luck to both sides.

This is the kind of bets some of my friends like, big odd with high probability. I will not even be surprised if Tottenham disgrace Arsenal tonight because Arsenal have not been doing too exceptional lately. With this big odd, one can even play Tottenham to win either half which will still give around 3 odds. Although, it is risky to think that Tottenham will win because Arsenal are the teams with the advantage in this match in terms of their players and their performance of late. Therefore, Arsenal will likely win the match but it can be a narrow win because Tottenham will try to score as many goals as they can.

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Quote from: hyudien on January 15, 2025, 09:28:12 AM

Week 21 is an important week for Arsenal to shift Nottingham Forest in 2nd position who were held to a draw by Liverpool yesterday. Unfortunately, the 3 points are not easy to win from Tottenham, because every time they meet, not many goals are scored. Based on the chances, the home team seems to be favored with 1.36x, the temptation comes from Tottenham with 7.80 so do you dare to drop it to the away team?

I just checked on my signature Rollbit to confirm the same odds at 7.80 for Spurs and I think the bookies are really being generous with that odd. Arsenal are not as good as they’ve used to be, Saka is out except we are expecting him back with some surprises, G. Jesus is out injured as well and Havertz isn’t any reliable to get many balls on target. Spurs on the other hand, they’ve got a good force in Solanke, Son and Maddison. They look more than capable to get something out of this fixture for such an odd.

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Quote from: davis196 on January 15, 2025, 02:47:39 AM

I think that, right now, Liverpool is the strongest team in England and yet they still have difficulties at winning against a team like Nottingham Forest. Liverpool had 70% ball possession and lots of missed goal opportunities, while Nottingham had a great goalkeeper.
Nottingham Forest is the big surprise of the Premier League and I really want them to finish at Top 3, but it would really difficult for them to compete against Arsenal and Chelsea. Manchester City failed to keep two goals in advance against Brentford. Maybe Guardiola's divorce is one of the reason why Manchester City is so inconsistent and weal. There's no doubt that Liverpool will become champions.

Yes Liverpool are the strongest and the best team in the EPL right now. Having difficulties at winning against a team like Nottingham Forest shows that how unpredictable and competitive the Premier League is. Nottingham Forest have been on fire this season in the EPL and I wish they can maintain this performance through out and also secure a spot that will make them play Champions League football next season.

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Quote from: hyudien on January 15, 2025, 09:28:12 AM

Week 21 is an important week for Arsenal to shift Nottingham Forest in 2nd position who were held to a draw by Liverpool yesterday. Unfortunately, the 3 points are not easy to win from Tottenham, because every time they meet, not many goals are scored. Based on the chances, the home team seems to be favored with 1.36x, the temptation comes from Tottenham with 7.80 so do you dare to drop it to the away team?

Why is Arsenal's odd so high considering the fact things hasn't been too good in their last few games. Too many problems for them at the moment, so I can't make predictions for the game. I'm not even sure if Arsenal can score a goal in this game because they've always struggled to score open play goals. Still don't know why the management is not interested in strengthening the attack, even though they've been able to do that in the defensive backline over the years.

It's a North London derby, and arsenal fans won't take any excuse. All 3 points will do them more good in moving further on the table. A draw or loss reduces their chance further in the title race. Good luck to both sides.

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Quote from: AprilioMP on January 15, 2025, 09:18:41 AM

I salute Nottingham Forest because they were able to surprise Liverpool in the 8th minute. The target of playing in the champions league next season can be maintained.

Nottingham Forest is good and we also feel our struggle will not be as easy as we predict at the beginning.
We are waiting for the results of Arsenal. If Arsenal wins, then we will get closer to Arsenal. This means that Liverpool have warned these two teams to target the 20th trophy.

If Nottingham Forest was successful this season as you said, I would pat them to them for the success they had been waiting for.

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Quote from: AprilioMP on January 15, 2025, 02:47:34 AM

Manchester City balanced. Chelsea draw. Liverpool draw. Incredible Premier League. Surely many have lost money. LOL

Now we review. Manchester City has 70% win because the score is 0-2. In fact Brentford equated a score of two goals in 10 minutes.
Chelsea won but Bournemouth was able to turn things around to 1-2. Finally the final minute drama made a draw.
How about Liverpool? Describe yourself. Crazy.

Manchester City had the chance to win Brentford in their meeting in the Premier League yesterday but still they drew the match as they surrender a two goals advantage in the 82nd min and drew the game. I am not surprised that Manchester City drew the game infact form the start i always knew it will end in a draw given to their recent dip in form in the league. While Chelsea I was even expecting a draw in the match, while Liverpool match was the one that made him lose my bet, I played over 2.5 goals and Liverpool failed to score up to three goals.

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Quote from: hyudien on January 15, 2025, 09:28:12 AM

Week 21 is an important week for Arsenal to shift Nottingham Forest in 2nd position who were held to a draw by Liverpool yesterday. Unfortunately, the 3 points are not easy to win from Tottenham, because every time they meet, not many goals are scored. Based on the chances, the home team seems to be favored with 1.36x, the temptation comes from Tottenham with 7.80 so do you dare to drop it to the away team?

It is a crucial game for Arsenal to shift Nottingham Forest . If they fail to gap Nottingham with three points as they host Tottenham tonight it might become difficult for the rest of the season to replace them so this match been the week 21 is very crucial and a must win.

Arsenal has a better stat than Tottenham so they should be the favorite. Imagine the odd for Tottenham which makes it obvious how much confidence the house has on Arsenal getting all three points in to tonight's clash. But should it turn out to be a draw then Arsenal will be standing on the second position with just GD.

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Quote from: CLS63 on January 15, 2025, 11:54:33 AM

Liverpool got very near winning this match despite being really bad in the first half. But Nottingham showed a really serious level of resistance. The goalkeeper really played his life game. I'm not surprised to see Liverpool losing points in this match. Because they played against a good team and you would remember that they lost to Nottingham at Anfield as well. Sad

It is a good chance for Arsenal to get closer to Liverpool in points. To be honest I don't think Arsenal will have a big difficulty in defeating Tottenham tonight. Tottenham are having big issues because of their missing players.

Very tough game between the pair, the game was so intense and competitive. Nottingham Forest came close to inflicting a home and away defeat record to Liverpool last night after Nottingham Forest took the lead in the early minutes of the game and were solid defensively until sixty minutes when Liverpool got a breakthrough from a set piece to equalize hence both sides were unable to find the net again until full time. Not a bad result in my opinion because it gives Arsenal opportunity to close the gap today when they face Tottenham. Hopefully they can get a win today.

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Quote from: hyudien on January 15, 2025, 09:28:12 AM

Week 21 is an important week for Arsenal to shift Nottingham Forest in 2nd position who were held to a draw by Liverpool yesterday. Unfortunately, the 3 points are not easy to win from Tottenham, because every time they meet, not many goals are scored. Based on the chances, the home team seems to be favored with 1.36x, the temptation comes from Tottenham with 7.80 so do you dare to drop it to the away team?

It could be a good momentum for Arsenal but it's also not an easy match in the end because after all it's a match full of prestige and full of tension in north london.

The long-standing rivalry between these two clubs makes the situation unpredictable where even unpredictable results can happen in this match. The momentum now is still owned by Arsenal especially since they will play home in this sensitive match, but Tottenham also certainly cannot be underestimated for now even though their performance is not better than Arsenal.

I actually want to be on Arsenal's side for this match but because this is a derby as well as seeing some big club matches yesterday (although this should not be used as a benchmark) but in the end of course there is a trust issue for me for now so I will only watch this match without any partiality to one of these clubs.

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Quote from: ajanwalker on January 15, 2025, 05:23:19 AM

If Arsenal wins the London derby tonight, they will be the team that will close the week with the most profit.

Yesterday, Liverpool narrowly escaped a draw and earned 1 point in a difficult away match against Nottingham.
Chelsea saved a draw at the last minute on their home field but lost 2 points because they were at home.
City won 1 point in a match they had been leading for a long time.
All eyes are on Arsenal in the match to be played tonight. If Arsenal defeats in-form Tottenham, they will have closed the week with a lot of profit and will move into second place.

It's true, but the question is that will they win? Arsenal recent performances have been indeed inconsistent particularly since Bukayo Saka injury. His absence have significantly affected their attacking capabilities as they've struggled to convert chances and this has left them vulnerable in matches where clinical finishing is crucial.
Facing Tottenham especially in a London derby will surely be a tough test. Spurs have a solid attacking unit and a manager who has instilled a more organized and dynamic playing style. With Son Heung Min and James Madison contributing effectively to their offensive creativity and goal scoring too, Spurs have a equal chance of winning the match.

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Quote from: hyudien on January 15, 2025, 09:28:12 AM

Week 21 is an important week for Arsenal to shift Nottingham Forest in 2nd position who were held to a draw by Liverpool yesterday. Unfortunately, the 3 points are not easy to win from Tottenham, because every time they meet, not many goals are scored. Based on the chances, the home team seems to be favored with 1.36x, the temptation comes from Tottenham with 7.80 so do you dare to drop it to the away team?

Arsenal are the king of north London. No matter how weak Arsenal might seems to be right now, I can still beat my chest to confirm that Arsenal are going to beat Tottenham Hotspur comfortable tonight. Tottenham are only noise makers thinking that they are rivals to Arsenal in North London, whereas Arsenal don't even see them as a threat. Even if Arsenal succeeds in shifting Nottingham forest from the second position tonight, Nottingham forest will still rise back to the second position. It will only take the next few games ahead to achieve that. I believe that Arsenal will lose more points in the coming weeks more than Nottingham forest will ever do. Don't even be tempted with Tottenham 7.80 odds. That odd won't play. Tottenham Hotspur are not in better form than Arsenal, so I don't even see them having any chance of winning.

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This season Nottingham is developing very well. They will play at home and of course, will give their best. Although Liverpool will be more favored, I still believe Nottingham will give a fight that might surprise Liverpool, like they did when they faced Liverpool last time. If Nottingham can beat Liverpool, then they have done an extraordinary achievement. Not to exaggerate, but now they are in competition with Arsenal, of course, even if it is a draw, it will mean a lot to them.

You're right about Nottingham, but they are not favorites at home when they host Liverpool. Nottingham is not a superior team that can always be relied on every match, but they are a seasonal team whose performance is often chaotic. This season they were good in the first half, but there is no guarantee they can maintain it until the second half or until the end of the season.

Nottingham Forest are not the favorites in the match against Liverpool, but as long as the line up that Nuno often uses with Nottingham Forest's main players are intact without being absent due to injury or accumulation of cards, I think Nottingham Forest can make a surprise in the match against Liverpool.
A draw would be the most likely result. Apart from Nottingham Forest's impressive performance this season, if this really happens then the competition to maintain the chance of winning the title at the end of the season will be tough.

Even though the match against Nottingham Forest is played at the City Ground stadium, I am favoring Liverpool in this match. As we all know how Liverpool have been performing recently, the top position in the points table will definitely be looking to pick up full points against Nottingham Forest. However, Liverpool must plan well before taking the field against this opponent as this team has played 20 matches in the Premier League so far in which they have lost only four matches. But if the plan is not correct then the result may be different. Since the manager has been able to use his own strategy to bring success for Liverpool so far, I will definitely believe that Liverpool will win this match. And in this important Premier League match I will bet some money for Liverpool and hope the result goes in my favor.

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Quote from: CLS63 on January 15, 2025, 11:54:33 AM

Liverpool got very near winning this match despite being really bad in the first half. But Nottingham showed a really serious level of resistance. The goalkeeper really played his life game. I'm not surprised to see Liverpool losing points in this match. Because they played against a good team and you would remember that they lost to Nottingham at Anfield as well. Sad

It is a good chance for Arsenal to get closer to Liverpool in points. To be honest I don't think Arsenal will have a big difficulty in defeating Tottenham tonight. Tottenham are having big issues because of their missing players.

I never believed Liverpool will draw with Nottingham, I knew the match would be hard for Liverpool to win but I was sure Liverpool will win, Nottingham has proven that they are very much inform and ready to carry the premier league title home if given a little chance by Liverpool, Nottingham should continue and improve more on this there correct form and they should always be consistent, some team there problem is to continue being consistent just like arsenal they are very good in performance but they are never consistent, if Nottingham continue being consistent they may win the premier league title because I believe Liverpool will make a mistake as time goes on.

In deed this is a good opportunity for arsenal in winning Tottenham because right now they have fallen in there form however I know fully well that arsenal may still draw this match because they usually don't make good use of opportunities they may draw they match, but since they lost to Manchester United in a penalty in there last game they may make good use of this particular opportunity and win.

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I though it was only me that had a bad day yesterday I never knew you also did, and funny enough we played same thing apart that Liverpool that i played to win either half because I knew it was going to be a tough match considering Nothingham forest performance this season and secondly, if you check very well Liverpool has not lost any match for some weeks or months now in premier league so at some point I was thinking they were going to lose last night because of this reason. It was a surprising thing that Chelsea couldn't win Bournemouth even with their current form though Manchester city doesn't really surprised me because we all know they are facing a tough time but to sme point I thought they have win the match. I don't know if they fixed these three match yesterday because that's very strange and unbelievable.

It was a day of pure draws and this makes it look different, the one that surprised me the most was Liverpool, who I thought was going to win, I can't deny that they did everything to be able to go up, but the goalkeeper was very good , but City is one of the teams that has disappointed many the most, and this has unleashed a wide range of criticism, for that reason is that now City is not seen with the respect that before and this is affected, of all this I think that in the PL even though Liverpool has a great advantage, it will be difficult for them to be dethroned.

Nottingham forest is the most difficult opponent faced by Liverpool this season, not only because of yesterday's draw, but precisely in the first meeting of the two teams this season, they also got their first defeat from Nottingham and that it was the only defeat obtained by Liverpool so far in the English league.
Manchester city, still extending their negative trend this season although in their last 3 matches they were able to win, their poor consistency and defence has made them slump and out of the championship path, the league journey is still long, although Liverpool is quite comfortable at the top of the standings but I think all possibilities can still happen later.

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Liverpool got very near winning this match despite being really bad in the first half. But Nottingham showed a really serious level of resistance. The goalkeeper really played his life game. I'm not surprised to see Liverpool losing points in this match. Because they played against a good team and you would remember that they lost to Nottingham at Anfield as well. Sad

It is a good chance for Arsenal to get closer to Liverpool in points. To be honest I don't think Arsenal will have a big difficulty in defeating Tottenham tonight. Tottenham are having big issues because of their missing players.

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In yesterday's match, in fact, the seeded teams ended the match with a draw result but about Liverpool, they really needed a lot of effort to be able to score a goal in that match. Because Nottingham also managed to make a quick goal in the first half exactly in the 8th minute, and Nottingham can defend it very well. Because the goal for Liverpool also just came in the 66th minute, and it was a goal that was not at all easy for Liverpool. The above-average quality of the Liverpool team does not at all indicate they are an elite team, because Nottingham really has a very good formula when playing against Liverpool this season.

Because after all, Nottingham also managed to become an unbeaten team against Liverpool in their two meetings this season. With results like this, it is very feasible for Nottingham to be able to finish in the top four and get a Champion League ticket too, Nottingham is very impressive this season. And today is another big match between Arsenal vs Tottenham and in my judgment these two teams are both unstable teams. But even so it is clear, that Arsenal are better and playing at home, Arsenal should be able to beat Tottenham.

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Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on January 15, 2025, 11:24:21 AM

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yesterday was a very bad day for me:

I bet on Liverpool to win, I bet on Manchester City to win and I also bet on Chelsea, but it's unbelievable that I lost all 3 games. It seems to me that all 3 teams are not at their best. Liverpool were doing very well, but since they played Manchester United it seems that they have declined a little or maybe they are having very bad luck every time they play Nottingham Forest. If Arsenal wins then they will be able to reduce the difference in points they have with Liverpool, I hope Liverpool wins in the next games.

Sorry about your loss. But honestly I wouldn't bet on Liverpool and Manchester City on the same week that easy. Sad

Especially Manchester City is the one which has been pretty inconsistent. I don't prefer to bet on their win until they heal for real.

Liverpool could have won if they didn't miss many chances in the 2nd half. Matz Sels played incredibly well also. Grin

He made great saves and the ones against Salah's effective shots were worth watching.

Today there is Arsenal - Tottenham. Arsenal lacks Gabriel Jesus due to injury. Seeing Havertz in his position isn't very ideal for scoring. Tottenham also lacks many important defense players. I think Arsenal will beat them by scoring multiple goals.

Yesterday, we witnessed lots of draw matches that includes the big teams in the league, Liverpool drew against Nottingham Forest, Chelsea drew against Bournemouth and the most suprising of them all is Manchester City drawing against Brentford. Lots of people i know, lost their bets cause of this 3 matches cause they all gave the favourites a straight win, i didn't expect Liverpool to easily win though due to Nottingham Forest's recent form, they're currently on of the most consistent team in Europe but then Chelsea and Manchester City deserved to win especially Manchester City cause they've been struggling to rediscover their form and after they won against Leicester City, Westham and the 8-0 victory in the FA Cup against Salford, i expected them to maintain that consistency against Brentford.

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