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Quote from: Cryptmuster on October 27, 2024, 04:38:32 PM

Quote from: len01 on October 27, 2024, 01:37:19 PM

And the result was 2-2 the match ended in a draw.
Arsenal if they could maintain their winning score and were not too ambitious to want to score again and chose to defend, it could possibly be Liverpool'
defeat. Unfortunately Arsenal were too ambitious and lost concentration and ended up with a draw.
Such a strategy is very easy for Liverpool to read and it is proven that Arne Slot's team managed to hold the match to a draw to share points.

Arsenal couldn't hold on to a very important win against Liverpool and now they are 5 points behind Manchester City, which is quite a lot because City is a team that it is very difficult to make up such a gap against. But besides not being able to win, they also didn't take points away from Liverpool and allowed City to return to the top of the table, so this time City benefited the most from this draw.

Yes, On a day when both teams' attacks shone, the match ended with a total of 4 eye-catching goals. The match reflected both teams' fierce fighting spirit and technique, along with impressive performances from the stars. On a day when Arsenal's defense was patched up due to injury and suspension, Gabriel's departure left Arsenal's defense more vulnerable. Liverpool took advantage of the opportunity to increase the pressure, Salah's equalizer at the end of the match brought a 2-2 draw for Liverpool, in the away match at Arsenal's stadium.

Both teams paid the price for not being able to win. Of course, the team most pleased with this result was… Man City, is the team currently at the top of the rankings.

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Quote from: Lida93 on October 27, 2024, 01:49:10 PM

Quote from: Pokapoka124 on October 26, 2024, 11:44:47 AM

Manchester City have changed, they are no longer a dangerous team that will beat their opponent 4-5 goals. A year ago I wouldn’t have imagined Manchester City struggling with Southampton. City got all three points but the performance was disappointing. At the beginning of the game, it seemed like they were going to embarrass Southampton with a bigger score margin. Luckily to Southampton, Haaland missed a lot of chances today, the fans will be relieved that they got a win.

Manchester city is still a dangerous team and their status as one of the best football club in the world hasn't changed yet, rather what has changed is the tempo of the competition and that is the reason why you see them not being able to score much in recent times, and they are not the only big team that are experiencing this trend, the likes of Arsenal, Liverpool, Manchester United are also finding it difficult to win with a large margin because the smaller teams are fighting hard also to survive especially those that below the table and in such a situation it is often difficult to score much but I think it wouldn't take long before Manchester city bounces back to their main goal scoring form when they would start scoring many goals.

As far as I can confirm nothing has changed 8 the pattern of Manchester City's football I think Pep Guardiola is not interested in wasting his time to push his team forward to keep scoring goals in difficult matches hex just want them to secure the victory and get 3 points against us the most important thing to him and his team if you want to know how dangerous the Manchester City team can be watch them play against top opponents in the league and see if you will not see them scoring goals as they used to score.

If you observe very well most of the small teams in English Premier League appear to be difficult to defeat when they play against big teams so Pep Guardiola will just advise his team to secure the win before looking for more goals and when you see a team in England winning games with 1:0, just know that the team is likely to win the league.

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Quote from: Palakka on October 27, 2024, 02:47:09 PM

Today's game was a tough and really competitive one at that... I wasn't expecting Liverpool to get away with all their matches unbeaten, yeahh presumably, that's possible but it's been going on for too long and the monopoly needs to be broken..

The first goal of the game was everything -- finesse! I really loved to watch that scene all over again that I had to watch match reviews from different angles... Saka controlling the ball at such a great speed and fall, squaring into the open space and leaving Robertson rolling on the floor, then a quick shot to put the ball away in the Net.
I think they were both prepared for the worse to happen in the game, which would be losing their position on the table... The counter passes/ attacks were spot on as well .

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Quote from: len01 on October 27, 2024, 01:37:19 PM

And the result was 2-2 the match ended in a draw.
Arsenal if they could maintain their winning score and were not too ambitious to want to score again and chose to defend, it could possibly be Liverpool'
defeat. Unfortunately Arsenal were too ambitious and lost concentration and ended up with a draw.
Such a strategy is very easy for Liverpool to read and it is proven that Arne Slot's team managed to hold the match to a draw to share points.

Arsenal couldn't hold on to a very important win against Liverpool and now they are 5 points behind Manchester City, which is quite a lot because City is a team that it is very difficult to make up such a gap against. But besides not being able to win, they also didn't take points away from Liverpool and allowed City to return to the top of the table, so this time City benefited the most from this draw.

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Quote from: Issa56 on October 27, 2024, 04:21:01 PM

Quote from: Docnaster on October 27, 2024, 03:50:51 PM

Manchester United defeat today against West Ham wasn't surprising to me because I know that under their current manager, the team will continue to deliver average performances. The big question now is who knows if the club management will be bold enough to sack Erik ten Hag after today's disappointing result.

Whenever Manchester United is having any match, I do expect either a draw or a loss from them. I don’t always expect Manchester United to win, even when they are playing against a weak team. Manchester United played against West Ham today, a club that they are supposed to win conveniently, but Manchester United lost the match, which is not a surprising one. Manchester United are currently in 14th position, and maybe till they get to relegation zone before the management will start thinking about sacking Ten Hag since they are still satisfied with the result they are getting from Ten Hag.

Haha it seems I have a friend here because in this case I also feel the same way where Manchester United if they don't lose, they must draw so I never bet for them in matches that are carried out even though they face opponents whose level is below them.

Today was the same, they came with confidence but the results didn't match their expectations even though there was a lot of momentum that could have been converted into goals but they couldn't do it.
What I regret in this case is Dalot's chance that when the goal was very empty but because this is Manchester United even though there is no goalkeeper guarding the players it is still difficult to score goals lol.

I want to keep saying for them to sack Ten Hag but it seems like it's useless because it won't work Cheesy

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Quote from: Docnaster on October 27, 2024, 03:50:51 PM

Manchester United defeat today against West Ham wasn't surprising to me because I know that under their current manager, the team will continue to deliver average performances. The big question now is who knows if the club management will be bold enough to sack Erik ten Hag after today's disappointing result.

Whenever Manchester United is having any match, I do expect either a draw or a loss from them. I don’t always expect Manchester United to win, even when they are playing against a weak team. Manchester United played against West Ham today, a club that they are supposed to win conveniently, but Manchester United lost the match, which is not a surprising one. Manchester United are currently in 14th position, and maybe till they get to relegation zone before the management will start thinking about sacking Ten Hag since they are still satisfied with the result they are getting from Ten Hag.

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Quote from: Obim34 on October 27, 2024, 03:17:29 PM

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Crystal Palace managed to defeat Totthenham.Mateta's goal in the 31st minute gave Crystal Palace their first league win against a strong opponent.Totthenham didn't play badly but didn't have the potential to win.
Manchester United, who drew 1-1 with Fenerbahce during the week, were defeated by West Ham.We have to say that they played better than their opponent but could not score a goal.If West Ham had not won a penalty in the last minutes, it could have at least ended in a draw.

Crystal Palace win today against Tottenham Hotspur was a result i never saw coming and that's why I lost a huge sum of money because of that result as I had initially staked on a Tottenham win or draw in that game but I have to say kudos to Crystal Palace for winning such a difficult game without conceding a single goal.

Manchester United defeat today against West Ham wasn't surprising to me because I know that under their current manager, the team will continue to deliver average performances. The big question now is who knows if the club management will be bold enough to sack Erik ten Hag after today's disappointing result.

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Quote from: Jossque on October 27, 2024, 02:01:29 PM

Crystal Palace managed to defeat Totthenham.Mateta's goal in the 31st minute gave Crystal Palace their first league win against a strong opponent.Totthenham didn't play badly but didn't have the potential to win.
Manchester United, who drew 1-1 with Fenerbahce during the week, were defeated by West Ham.We have to say that they played better than their opponent but could not score a goal.If West Ham had not won a penalty in the last minutes, it could have at least ended in a draw.

Tottenham played there best performances but crystal palace seems to have more opportunities than them, although, the game was not that amazing to watch but is a nice performance to crystal palace, many don’t think that they will be able to defeat Tottenham but they did. Again Tottenham has a bit low effort from their strikers, which they need to force more on to avoid further disappointment.

Furthermore, talking about Manchester United game which almost ended on a draw. Moreover I was not even expecting a goal from Manchester United due to their performance in first half, but they did a bit of performance and end up spoiling everything by giving a chance of penalty in the extra minute. It not encouraging at all they are supposed to do more better not losing games.

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Quote from: Jossque on October 27, 2024, 02:01:29 PM

Crystal Palace managed to defeat Totthenham.Mateta's goal in the 31st minute gave Crystal Palace their first league win against a strong opponent.Totthenham didn't play badly but didn't have the potential to win.
Manchester United, who drew 1-1 with Fenerbahce during the week, were defeated by West Ham.We have to say that they played better than their opponent but could not score a goal.If West Ham had not won a penalty in the last minutes, it could have at least ended in a draw.

The most interesting match played today is that of Chelsea, both teams had what it takes to win just that Chelsea where on a leveled potentials above Newcastle. Chelsea are closer to finishing among the top four this time than them not making it there. The best result that they can achieve to call it a great milestone so far this season is by qualifying for the Champions League and winning the Conference League which looks very minor and easy to accomplish.

very dismaying to see Manchester United perform this bad and currently in the worst position that any one should think of. They lost to West Ham with an intimidating performance, lots of missed chances which happens to be the problem to why they keep failing. Brilliant goal scoring opportunity from Dalot with the keeper outside the view, nothing was an obstacle from him scoring but seeing how he missed with a poor target screams that the most problem is coming from the players and not the Coach.

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Quote from: skarais on October 27, 2024, 01:21:21 PM

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The Arsenal vs Liverpool match is almost over, while the score is 2-2. A draw would be in Manchester City's favor, but Liverpool look desperate to win and they don't look like giving up. Arsenal failed to maintain their win and this was really detrimental for them in the home game. But there are still a few minutes left to see what happens.

To be honest I thought previously today match will be easy match for Liverpool, because the conditions and performance of the two teams were different, but in the match Arsenal started the match well and make me very suprising relying on two wings who continued to be able to put pressure on the Liverpool defense, it was clear that Arsenal game increased drastically in the match with Saka's return to the squad, the 2-2 draw was of course very beneficial for Manchester City at the moment but if you look at the performance of the two teams in the match then 1 point is the result which is fair in my opinion.

Quote from: len01 on October 27, 2024, 01:37:19 PM

And the result was 2-2 the match ended in a draw.
Arsenal if they could maintain their winning score and were not too ambitious to want to score again and chose to defend, it could possibly be Liverpool'
defeat. Unfortunately Arsenal were too ambitious and lost concentration and ended up with a draw.
Such a strategy is very easy for Liverpool to read and it is proven that Arne Slot's team managed to hold the match to a draw to share points.

If we pay attention to the game, actually when Arsenal were 2-1 up over Liverpool, they had survived but the injuries to Timber and Gabriel in the game forced Arteta to make a slight change to their game scheme, defending to face a team like Liverpool with a narrow victory of course is a bad thing, especially after they has lost two tough defenders in that match, because however in superior conditions Arsenal still must to build their attack to disrupt Liverpool game and what Arteta did today is right in my opinion.

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Quote from: len01 on October 27, 2024, 01:37:19 PM

Quote from: skarais on October 27, 2024, 01:21:21 PM

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The Arsenal vs Liverpool match is almost over, while the score is 2-2. A draw would be in Manchester City's favor, but Liverpool look desperate to win and they don't look like giving up. Arsenal failed to maintain their win and this was really detrimental for them in the home game. But there are still a few minutes left to see what happens.

And the result was 2-2 the match ended in a draw.
Arsenal if they could maintain their winning score and were not too ambitious to want to score again and chose to defend, it could possibly be Liverpool'
defeat. Unfortunately Arsenal were too ambitious and lost concentration and ended up with a draw.
Such a strategy is very easy for Liverpool to read and it is proven that Arne Slot's team managed to hold the match to a draw to share points.

That late minute goal that was scored by Salah would be the worst nightmare that will ever happen to Arsenal tonight. When they thought they’ve won the match, then the late minute goal for an equalizer came and shared the points for them. Arsenal really played well and since they were playing from home, they really dominated the game and also were able to outplay Liverpool in the game. Arne Slot’s Liverpool is really remarkable and I will always say that they deserve the best and position they’re currently maintaining in the league now. They have to now remain in the second position after drawing this match. Manchester City have continued their winning run and have not failed to utilized any opportunity they got to remain in that top position in the league. Hard luck for Arsenal that they've to share the points today after a beautiful game by them throughout the match.

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Crystal Palace managed to defeat Totthenham.Mateta's goal in the 31st minute gave Crystal Palace their first league win against a strong opponent.Totthenham didn't play badly but didn't have the potential to win.
Manchester United, who drew 1-1 with Fenerbahce during the week, were defeated by West Ham.We have to say that they played better than their opponent but could not score a goal.If West Ham had not won a penalty in the last minutes, it could have at least ended in a draw.

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Quote from: Lida93 on October 27, 2024, 01:49:10 PM

Quote from: Pokapoka124 on October 26, 2024, 11:44:47 AM

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Manchester city is still a dangerous team and their status as one of the best football club in the world hasn't changed yet, rather what has changed is the tempo of the competition and that is the reason why you see them not being able to score much in recent times, and they are not the only big team that are experiencing this trend, the likes of Arsenal, Liverpool, Manchester United are also finding it difficult to win with a large margin because the smaller teams are fighting hard also to survive especially those that below the table and in such a situation it is often difficult to score much but I think it wouldn't take long before Manchester city bounces back to their main goal scoring form when they would start scoring many goals.

In the last 3 seasons, Manchester City has always scored more than 90 goals during a season in the Premier League. So far this season, Manchester City is the best team with the most goals among other teams. Manchester City has scored 20 goals in 9 matches, certainly the most compared to all Premier League teams currently in the same number of matches. Only Chelsea has a 1 goal gap below Manchester City, apart from Chelsea there are Liverpool and Arsenal with 17 goals and Tottenham and Brentford with 18 goals.

There are the next 29 matches that Manchester City can use to equal their goal record in the last 3 seasons. Of course it's not easy when the other team has a good defense, but fortunately Manchester City has a goal machine that has so far scored 11 goals in 9 matches.

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Quote from: Pokapoka124 on October 26, 2024, 11:44:47 AM

Manchester City have changed, they are no longer a dangerous team that will beat their opponent 4-5 goals. A year ago I wouldn’t have imagined Manchester City struggling with Southampton. City got all three points but the performance was disappointing. At the beginning of the game, it seemed like they were going to embarrass Southampton with a bigger score margin. Luckily to Southampton, Haaland missed a lot of chances today, the fans will be relieved that they got a win.

Manchester city is still a dangerous team and their status as one of the best football club in the world hasn't changed yet, rather what has changed is the tempo of the competition and that is the reason why you see them not being able to score much in recent times, and they are not the only big team that are experiencing this trend, the likes of Arsenal, Liverpool, Manchester United are also finding it difficult to win with a large margin because the smaller teams are fighting hard also to survive especially those that below the table and in such a situation it is often difficult to score much but I think it wouldn't take long before Manchester city bounces back to their main goal scoring form when they would start scoring many goals.

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I wonder, does anyone know, what foul did the Arsenal player make before the third goal happened? Because I think, the player who won the gastric ball did not commit a foul, he just jumped high but did not seem to be involved in body contact with Liverpool players. But, after the goal happened, the referee just considered it a foul until the third goal for Arsenal was disallowed. In the comments I read on the live stream, many said the referee did not do his job fairly, because some incidents seemed like the referee favored Liverpool, I don't know. Although I also bet on Liverpool, but if there is an injustice committed by the referee, then I am also quite disappointed for the referee's decision like that. But yes, if you consider Liverpool's play in this match despite playing away, that Liverpool managed to play well and have great dominance in the second half. The second goal for Liverpool created by Salah with a counterattack was also a good goal.

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Quote from: skarais on October 27, 2024, 01:21:21 PM

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The Arsenal vs Liverpool match is almost over, while the score is 2-2. A draw would be in Manchester City's favor, but Liverpool look desperate to win and they don't look like giving up. Arsenal failed to maintain their win and this was really detrimental for them in the home game. But there are still a few minutes left to see what happens.

And the result was 2-2 the match ended in a draw.
Arsenal if they could maintain their winning score and were not too ambitious to want to score again and chose to defend, it could possibly be Liverpool'
defeat. Unfortunately Arsenal were too ambitious and lost concentration and ended up with a draw.
Such a strategy is very easy for Liverpool to read and it is proven that Arne Slot's team managed to hold the match to a draw to share points.

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Yeah, it has nothing to do with fatigue, I consider it funny because how many have they even played both in the premier league competition and the Champions league competition. I will rather say it's the absence of their core players in the squad that has affected how they play. Manchester City not having Kevin De Bruyne and Rodri has affected them. Jeremy Doku as well brings a whole lot when it comes to creativity on the wings. Southampton did well to even concede just a goal Arsenal on loan Aaron Ramsdale did brilliant with those powerful saves. They should have scored a clean to goal but it made contact with the woodwork. A draw between Arsenal and Liverpool is what City would be wishing.

I thought the match was boring and to be honest I didn't watch it until the end. I didn't get what I wanted to see from Manchester City, of course it was a few goals to prove their dominance. However, the most important thing in the end is not how many goals are scored, but winning 3 points at the end of the match is the expected achievement. Manchester City got that even though they only ended the match with a score of 1-0.

The Arsenal vs Liverpool match is almost over, while the score is 2-2. A draw would be in Manchester City's favor, but Liverpool look desperate to win and they don't look like giving up. Arsenal failed to maintain their win and this was really detrimental for them in the home game. But there are still a few minutes left to see what happens.

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Quote from: Inwestour on October 27, 2024, 06:14:08 AM

And I think it's not about fatigue, because it's not even the middle of the season, it could be that they underestimated the opponent a little, they expected that Southampton would put up less resistance, because the team is at the bottom of the table, with a very bad defense. But the most important thing is that they were able to win, it doesn't matter if it was a 1-0 victory, it's not necessary to win every match by a big score.

Yeah, it has nothing to do with fatigue, I consider it funny because how many have they even played both in the premier league competition and the Champions league competition. I will rather say it's the absence of their core players in the squad that has affected how they play. Manchester City not having Kevin De Bruyne and Rodri has affected them. Jeremy Doku as well brings a whole lot when it comes to creativity on the wings. Southampton did well to even concede just a goal Arsenal on loan Aaron Ramsdale did brilliant with those powerful saves. They should have scored a clean to goal but it made contact with the woodwork. A draw between Arsenal and Liverpool is what City would be wishing.

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Quote from: Docnaster on October 26, 2024, 05:28:50 PM

It seems no body on this thread is actually interested in talking about the Everton vs Fulham game that was played today despite the dramatic end to that particular game. I watched the game and was very impressed with the result and performances of both teams even when the result made me lose my money as I had earlier staked on an Everton win. After Fulham took the lead in the 61st minute through Alex Iwobi, the home team continued to press for an equalizer but when it got to the 90th minute, i had already concluded that Fulham were going to leave with a point but shockingly, Beto scored a 94th minute goal to help Everton claim a point from that game. Interesting game I must confess

We saw difficult match for both teams because both teams played well in this match and the result of that match was draw and ni team was winner of that match . Both teams did 1 ,1 goal in this match and no team was favorite for that match. A. Iwobi did goal in that match and he did first goal at 61 minutes and after that Beto did second goal of match and he saved his team from defeat. The overall performance of Fulham team was good and their passes were more in number and these were 588 and their shots were also on target and their possession percentage was 61 percent.But they became successful to win this match. They were unlucky in this match.

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Manchester City have changed, they are no longer a dangerous team that will beat their opponent 4-5 goals. A year ago I wouldn’t have imagined Manchester City struggling with Southampton. City got all three points but the performance was disappointing. At the beginning of the game, it seemed like they were going to embarrass Southampton with a bigger score margin. Luckily to Southampton, Haaland missed a lot of chances today, the fans will be relieved that they got a win.

Manchester City in recent games haven't been as convincing with their performances like they were in their first four games in the league this season. They've been underperforming but the good thing about them is that even when they underperform, they still end up getting good results. Playing against Southampton at home today, I had predicted an easy game for Manchester City and also predicted that 3+ goals will be scored in the game but to my surprise, it finished in a 1:0 win for the English champions. Pep Guardiola must try improve the performance of his side of he really wants to retain the league title at the end of the season.

Actually Manchester City dropped a little of form since the beginning of the season, but has maintained a fair performance, however have always find their way on the Leaderboard, that's one very unique thing I love about City, for couple of seasons now ,they don't slip way down much below the top four in the table regardless of their form at any given time. The scores today wasn't much but ended up taking 3 points home.

Manchester City cannot perform at a high level every match. It may be unfair to expect such a performance from the team because it is not easy to play matches at a high tempo continuously. Even top-level players can show signs of fatigue and therefore the tempo of the match can be low. One of the best things City does is that they know how to win even if the tempo is low.

It is not expected to score only 1 goal in Manchester City matches, but sometimes it can be like that. The team knows how to get 3 points without pushing themselves too much and they can maintain their physical condition for the next matches.

You are absolutely correct even though the expectation wasn't that pleasant enough but however a win is a win, generally an over 2.5 goals was pretty much on the highest expectations in that match but surprisingly it was just 1: 0 and the funny part of it is that it is Manchester City home ground hence more expectations, surely it is not easy to secure a win irrespective of the opponent team, you have said it all players fatigue is inevitable such that they can't always be in their best performance all the time let's give the players some credits because it is not as easy as it may seem in the eyes of the audience.

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