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Quote from: tusandii on January 14, 2025, 09:14:53 AM

Quote from: Awaklara on January 13, 2025, 01:54:50 PM

This season Nottingham is developing very well. They will play at home and of course, will give their best. Although Liverpool will be more favored, I still believe Nottingham will give a fight that might surprise Liverpool, like they did when they faced Liverpool last time. If Nottingham can beat Liverpool, then they have done an extraordinary achievement. Not to exaggerate, but now they are in competition with Arsenal, of course, even if it is a draw, it will mean a lot to them.

This match will certainly be very crucial for Liverpool because Nottingham Forest might make it difficult for them, especially playing at home is an advantage for Nottingham Forest, but I don't think Liverpool will lose for the second time this season, I think it is likely that they will draw so that Liverpool can at least still get 1 point to continue to maintain their advantage, yes, even if they lose they will still be at the top of the standings but the worst possibility is that Nottingham Forest will try to catch up with Liverpool and try to put pressure on them.

Liverpool and Nottingham are the best teams in the Premier League this season, and also their coaches who have both received awards for best coaches so far this season. Thus, the match between Nottingham vs Liverpool is certainly an interesting match and a rare or different color or competition this season, because usually big matches occur for matches between top teams vs top teams, but at this moment the big match that occurs will be a match between the dark horse team against the top team in the Premier League. Moreover, Nottingham managed to give Liverpool a defeat this season, which makes their second match or second meeting this season very interesting because they are still competing to get the best position and maintain the top position.

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So far Liverpool are in a very strong position to win the trophy this season, with a 6 point advantage and also 1 game postponed from second place of course they are strong candidates as the favourite team, especially since they are still showing consistent and solid performance when facing big teams and crucial matches, but as we knew, the EPL is a league that is more competitive than other leagues in Europe, even when a team that is far ahead in the mid of the season but still can fail to win the trophy at the end season.

As long as they are able to maintain and to be consistent in every match, then they will be able to win this trophy. If you look at how they have performed so far, they should be able to do it. The next match might be a bit tight because it is against Nottm Forest who is also in such good form. However, Liverpool is also in a pretty good position so this will be an exciting match.

I think so too, but we also can't deny that the English league is the most competitive league in Europe, so they are a little careless of course the championship trophy can belong to another team at the end of this season, although Liverpool can currently end the half of the season as champions but the long league journey allows anything to happen, especially if Liverpool fails to maintain their consistency and performance in the second half of the season later.

The match will be a very crucial match and looking at the current condition of the two teams, of course it is difficult for us to predict who will win, but regardless, I hope that the match between Nottingham Forest vs Liverpool today can be an interesting and tight from the beginning until the end of the match.

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Quote from: Awaklara on January 13, 2025, 01:54:50 PM

This season Nottingham is developing very well. They will play at home and of course, will give their best. Although Liverpool will be more favored, I still believe Nottingham will give a fight that might surprise Liverpool, like they did when they faced Liverpool last time. If Nottingham can beat Liverpool, then they have done an extraordinary achievement. Not to exaggerate, but now they are in competition with Arsenal, of course, even if it is a draw, it will mean a lot to them.

This match will certainly be very crucial for Liverpool because Nottingham Forest might make it difficult for them, especially playing at home is an advantage for Nottingham Forest, but I don't think Liverpool will lose for the second time this season, I think it is likely that they will draw so that Liverpool can at least still get 1 point to continue to maintain their advantage, yes, even if they lose they will still be at the top of the standings but the worst possibility is that Nottingham Forest will try to catch up with Liverpool and try to put pressure on them.

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Quote from: pawel7777 on January 11, 2025, 09:13:31 AM

No Premier League games this weekend and we'll have to wait till Tue for another round. To me, the most interesting game of the matchday 21 is Nottm Forest Vs Liverpool.
The odds for that game are:

Nottm Forest: x4.50
Draw: x4.00
Liverpool: x1.70

This looks about right, but maybe Nottm Forest are underestimated a bit. They are on 6 wins streak, while Liverpool lost the 1 leg semi-final against Tottenham and split points at home with troubled Man United.
What's a bit strange is that both teams tend to perform slightly better in away games than at home (the difference is negligible though).

If we look deeper into the match, it will definitely be a little difficult to predict the outcome of the match.
If we look at the odds given by the bookies, we must think about the victory that Liverpool will get. However, if we look at the performance of both teams lately, both teams really have the best performance.
On the one hand, Liverpool is favored but playing away and of course Nottingham also has a great chance of getting a win at home.
If you choose Liverpool's victory, it seems less convincing because Nottingham can hold the match to a draw and Liverpool will also not lose.
So I will probably choose a double chance of a draw or Nottingham with odds @2.2.9

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Feeling quite nervous about the Liverpool game tomorrow to be honest. We have lost one game in the league all season and it was to them. I think we underestimated them that day and it was our undoing in a 1-0 loss. Let’s be honest, we are better than them all over the pitch. Player for player we are better than them in every position. Football doesn’t always work like that though and they’re having an unbelievable season.

I really want to see a season defining win tomorrow by Liverpool, a real statement victory. We need to go there, assert our dominance and come home with the 3 points. I’ve been reading a Nottingham Forest fans forum, they seem very confident that they’ll beat us. We have a fully fit squad right now apart from Joe Gomez. I want to see us go there and batter them. Come on Liverpool!

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Quote from: skarais on January 13, 2025, 02:22:18 PM

Quote from: Awaklara on January 13, 2025, 01:54:50 PM

This season Nottingham is developing very well. They will play at home and of course, will give their best. Although Liverpool will be more favored, I still believe Nottingham will give a fight that might surprise Liverpool, like they did when they faced Liverpool last time. If Nottingham can beat Liverpool, then they have done an extraordinary achievement. Not to exaggerate, but now they are in competition with Arsenal, of course, even if it is a draw, it will mean a lot to them.

You're right about Nottingham, but they are not favorites at home when they host Liverpool. Nottingham is not a superior team that can always be relied on every match, but they are a seasonal team whose performance is often chaotic. This season they were good in the first half, but there is no guarantee they can maintain it until the second half or until the end of the season.

Nottingham Forest are not the favorites in the match against Liverpool, but as long as the line up that Nuno often uses with Nottingham Forest's main players are intact without being absent due to injury or accumulation of cards, I think Nottingham Forest can make a surprise in the match against Liverpool.
A draw would be the most likely result. Apart from Nottingham Forest's impressive performance this season, if this really happens then the competition to maintain the chance of winning the title at the end of the season will be tough.

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Quote from: Awaklara on January 13, 2025, 01:54:50 PM

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This season Nottingham is developing very well. They will play at home and of course, will give their best. Although Liverpool will be more favored, I still believe Nottingham will give a fight that might surprise Liverpool, like they did when they faced Liverpool last time. If Nottingham can beat Liverpool, then they have done an extraordinary achievement. Not to exaggerate, but now they are in competition with Arsenal, of course, even if it is a draw, it will mean a lot to them.

You're right about Nottingham, but they are not favorites at home when they host Liverpool. Nottingham is not a superior team that can always be relied on every match, but they are a seasonal team whose performance is often chaotic. This season they were good in the first half, but there is no guarantee they can maintain it until the second half or until the end of the season.

Liverpool has almost 60% probability of winning compared to Nottingham. I am not underestimating Nottingham in the slightest, but Nottingham is a team that will probably receive its first defeat after 7 consecutive wins. Liverpool are better in terms of squad depth and I think they will be able to win the match even though it is difficult. However, Liverpool's defeat might be expected to make the title competition more interesting every week.

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Quote from: Adiljutt156 on January 13, 2025, 01:22:48 PM

Quote from: pawel7777 on January 11, 2025, 09:13:31 AM

No Premier League games this weekend and we'll have to wait till Tue for another round. To me, the most interesting game of the matchday 21 is Nottm Forest Vs Liverpool.
The odds for that game are:

Nottm Forest: x4.50
Draw: x4.00
Liverpool: x1.70

This looks about right, but maybe Nottm Forest are underestimated a bit. They are on 6 wins streak, while Liverpool lost the 1 leg semi-final against Tottenham and split points at home with troubled Man United.
What's a bit strange is that both teams tend to perform slightly better in away games than at home (the difference is negligible though).

Liverpool football team has more chances of win but this doesn't mean Nottingham Forest football team could not win this match.Nottingham Forest football team played very well in last matches and they won last 5 matches which is excellent performance by that team. I think that match will be interesting for the fans because both teams will give hundred percent to win this match and we will get good match .But Liverpool defender is unfit which will be big loss for that team and that player name is Gomez and Núñez is suspended in this match and these points are in the favour of Nottingham Forest team but we want good match . Nottingham Forest also one player is injured but it will not as impact as the injured players of Liverpool will impact on the result of match.

This season Nottingham is developing very well. They will play at home and of course, will give their best. Although Liverpool will be more favored, I still believe Nottingham will give a fight that might surprise Liverpool, like they did when they faced Liverpool last time. If Nottingham can beat Liverpool, then they have done an extraordinary achievement. Not to exaggerate, but now they are in competition with Arsenal, of course, even if it is a draw, it will mean a lot to them.

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Quote from: pawel7777 on January 11, 2025, 09:13:31 AM

No Premier League games this weekend and we'll have to wait till Tue for another round. To me, the most interesting game of the matchday 21 is Nottm Forest Vs Liverpool.
The odds for that game are:

Nottm Forest: x4.50
Draw: x4.00
Liverpool: x1.70

This looks about right, but maybe Nottm Forest are underestimated a bit. They are on 6 wins streak, while Liverpool lost the 1 leg semi-final against Tottenham and split points at home with troubled Man United.
What's a bit strange is that both teams tend to perform slightly better in away games than at home (the difference is negligible though).

Liverpool football team has more chances of win but this doesn't mean Nottingham Forest football team could not win this match.Nottingham Forest football team played very well in last matches and they won last 5 matches which is excellent performance by that team. I think that match will be interesting for the fans because both teams will give hundred percent to win this match and we will get good match .But Liverpool defender is unfit which will be big loss for that team and that player name is Gomez and Núñez is suspended in this match and these points are in the favour of Nottingham Forest team but we want good match . Nottingham Forest also one player is injured but it will not as impact as the injured players of Liverpool will impact on the result of match.

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Quote from: Palakka on January 12, 2025, 01:29:45 PM

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Moments ago, I read an Article that suggests current league leaders Liverpool can't still be caught by the clubs that are chasing them in the league standings and though some of the statistics I read there suggests that there's every possibility that Arne Slot's men can still be stopped from winning the English Premier League title this season and the fact that they have some difficult away games coming up, I strongly still do not believe that Liverpool might end the season with the English Premier League title.
I had to bring the discussion here and ask us what we make of the debate. Do you think the clubs behind Liverpool in the league standings can catch up with them? Let me read your thoughts.

So far Liverpool are in a very strong position to win the trophy this season, with a 6 point advantage and also 1 game postponed from second place of course they are strong candidates as the favourite team, especially since they are still showing consistent and solid performance when facing big teams and crucial matches, but as we knew, the EPL is a league that is more competitive than other leagues in Europe, even when a team that is far ahead in the mid of the season but still can fail to win the trophy at the end season.
currently the league journey is still half the season left and anything can happen along the way, So like you, although the statistics are very supportive of Liverpool, but I still think that the competition is not completely over before the match week 38 is played.

Liverpool is leading the fight for the title in the English Premier League. This team has played 19 matches so far and they are at the top of the points table with 46 points. Second position in the points table is Arsenal who have already played 20 matches where they have 40 points. The third position of the table is Nottm Forest who have 40 points. Considering the differences with these three teams, one thing is clear here that Liverpool is far ahead of all the other teams because Liverpool has more points and Liverpool has played less matches. Now from this situation, if Liverpool performs the same in the upcoming matches, then Liverpool will definitely win the league title this season. Now we are talking about who is in the second position of the points table. As the two teams are second and third in the table with the same points, I would give Arsenal a slight edge to retain the second position in the table.

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Quote from: Docnaster on January 12, 2025, 07:56:26 AM

Moments ago, I read an Article that suggests current league leaders Liverpool can't still be caught by the clubs that are chasing them in the league standings and though some of the statistics I read there suggests that there's every possibility that Arne Slot's men can still be stopped from winning the English Premier League title this season and the fact that they have some difficult away games coming up, I strongly still do not believe that Liverpool might end the season with the English Premier League title.
I had to bring the discussion here and ask us what we make of the debate. Do you think the clubs behind Liverpool in the league standings can catch up with them? Let me read your thoughts.

This is the Premier League and as we know already the level of competition and battle for trophies amongst the top clubs that come along, the season is a long way from the end and Liverpool only possess six points advantage from second place Arsenal. However Liverpool look stable at the moment but I have a huge doubt they will be able to maintain this form until the end of the season. There is a possibility they will be caught by other teams following behind.

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As I said there could be a surprise it really happened. After this great battle vs Arsenal it is time to return to the PL. The next competitor is going to be Southampton.

The game is at Old Trafford. I wouldn't accept any other thing than a clean victory if I were a Manchester United fan.

Do you think they will benefit from this morale boost or will they continue to lose points?

They couldn't win a single game for 4 weeks in a row. 3 of them are losses. People are criticizing Amorim already but they should just wait. Things can't be fixed magically all of a sudden.

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Quote from: JeromeTash on January 12, 2025, 03:44:18 PM

I think the best way to be sure if Manchester City are back to their old mode of winning every game in the second half of the season is to observe how they will perform in the Premier League and champion's league in the next 5-10 games. If they show any form of inconsistencies, then they should forget about retaining the title.

The latest result shouldn't be a yardstick for their next success.

Most people are claiming that Manchester City is back to their old form after winning two matches in the Premier League, but we should know that Manchester City played against weak teams, which they are supposed to win, and they haven’t faced any strong team yet. I agree there is an improvement in Manchester City’s performance because they do lose and draw when they played against weak teams before, but as we can see, they are beginning to get wins in their matches, so they are improving.

Manchester City's next match will be against Brentford. I know Brentford is not really a strong club, but they are dangerous and shouldn’t be underestimated. Let’s see if Manchester City will be able to get a win in the match. Let’s see if it’s going to be easy for them, and even if Manchester City is back to their form, I am not so confident that they will be able to win the Premier League title this season, because Liverpool which is also in first position, won’t be losing points either, and the point difference is just kind of much. I don’t know how Manchester City will be able to cover it up.

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Quote from: tusandii on January 13, 2025, 04:43:18 AM

Quote from: Woodie on January 11, 2025, 02:42:34 PM

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No easy game that's for sure, aren't Nottingham Forest the team that gave Liverpool the first lose this season and to meet again when both are in good form Shocked

can't wait for this one..it will be explosive!

Yes Nottingham Forest is the only club that managed to beat Liverpool this season and it happened when playing at Anfield so I think this second meeting will definitely be very interesting whether Liverpool will avenge their previous defeat or they will be defeated again by Nottingham Forest because this club cannot be underestimated for now it is in good form and has won many victories this season by beating elite clubs moreover this match will be held at Nottingham Forest's home ground so it is an advantage for the home club to be able to appear more confident.

If Liverpool loses again for the second time this season from Notthingham Forest, it means that Nuno Santo troops have become a team that has an effective way to conquer Arne Slot strategy. Considering that other EPL teams always have difficulty when facing Liverpool game, so I hope Arne Slot must be more serious about not underestimating Notthingham Forest who at any time can drag Liverpool to lose more points.

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Quote from: tusandii on January 13, 2025, 04:43:18 AM

Quote from: Woodie on January 11, 2025, 02:42:34 PM

Dejavu.

No easy game that's for sure, aren't Nottingham Forest the team that gave Liverpool the first lose this season and to meet again when both are in good form Shocked

can't wait for this one..it will be explosive!

Yes Nottingham Forest is the only club that managed to beat Liverpool this season and it happened when playing at Anfield so I think this second meeting will definitely be very interesting whether Liverpool will avenge their previous defeat or they will be defeated again by Nottingham Forest because this club cannot be underestimated for now it is in good form and has won many victories this season by beating elite clubs moreover this match will be held at Nottingham Forest's home ground so it is an advantage for the home club to be able to appear more confident.

Whether the match will be played at Nottingham forest home field or not, the fact remains that Liverpool will try all their best to retaliate the loss they suffered previously in the hands of Nottingham forest, and for them to achieve this, I bet they must be training real hard even at this very moment.

On the other hand, Nottingham may still be dwelling in over confidence in the themselves believing that since they beat Liverpool before, that they can easily do it again, this may be the reason why they may end up loosing their coming game against Liverpool tomorrow, I hope and pray this doesn't happen.

But all the same, this is a match I believe will be very tough, and non of us should miss out on watching it.

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Quote from: hahay on January 12, 2025, 08:52:13 AM

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Not a chance... There's a huge gap between them and Liverpool. I do think they can mount any pressure on to them even if they were to perform consistently until the end of the season. I think Manchester City will lose so more Premier League games soon.

I don't know how to act, whether to be happy or maybe just normal because Salford is not a team with good quality and moreover Salford is also playing away. As a weak team that only plays in League Two, I think the victory is a natural result. Although perhaps, with the victory will provide better morale for improving Manchester City's performance in the Premier League and in the Champions League. But still, if it's about the competition in the Premier League and Champions League it will still be a tough competition, and an 8-0 victory like that I think is no guarantee that Manchester City will rise in the near future.

Although Manchester City managed to slaughter their opponent again, this time it felt a little different because their opponents were not a team competing in the Premier League. In my opinion, this victory is not too special, because the opponents faced were very weak, but in terms of mentality, this victory can give the players a sense of confidence to show their quality in the continuation of the EPL and UCL.
I am really looking forward to Man City getting another big win in the EPL and showing they are back to their best and giving them a fight for the top four.

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Quote from: Woodie on January 11, 2025, 02:42:34 PM

Dejavu.

No easy game that's for sure, aren't Nottingham Forest the team that gave Liverpool the first lose this season and to meet again when both are in good form Shocked

can't wait for this one..it will be explosive!

Yes Nottingham Forest is the only club that managed to beat Liverpool this season and it happened when playing at Anfield so I think this second meeting will definitely be very interesting whether Liverpool will avenge their previous defeat or they will be defeated again by Nottingham Forest because this club cannot be underestimated for now it is in good form and has won many victories this season by beating elite clubs moreover this match will be held at Nottingham Forest's home ground so it is an advantage for the home club to be able to appear more confident.

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Quote from: blue Snow on January 12, 2025, 07:19:42 PM

The next match premier league is Brentford vs Man City, what yours thought?.
When we look how the previous match the city very mighty to defeat Salford City with 8 goals without conceded, of course, we have optimist that they will do it again when away to Brentford.
But sure Brentford is not the same as Salford which have competed on 4th tier of the league. Brentford won't let The City squad score many goals at their home. They also have the habit to motivated to win if meet a strong team. they look to understand how to terminate Kevin De Bruyne and friend to improve their skill on penalty box. I'm quite optimistic Mbeumo and friends can make the city overwhelmed to create the goals and Brentford will continue their strategy to counter attack, and the match could ended with draw.

City 1.70

Brentford 5.00

This has to be a difficult game for City. They got several wins in a row, but not enough to get my confidence to pick them. They won easily against FA cup team, which was 3rd tier team. Brentford is definitely going all out against them.

It seems to me betting in total over is quite right compared to the City win. We know how good Brentford is, they're good at attacking and defense, but only lack of consistency.

We may also see draw to happen in this game.

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As long as they are able to maintain and to be consistent in every match, then they will be able to win this trophy. If you look at how they have performed so far, they should be able to do it. The next match might be a bit tight because it is against Nottm Forest who is also in such good form. However, Liverpool is also in a pretty good position so this will be an exciting match.

I would like to watch this match, I did not expect that after half of the season Nottingham will be in the top 4. And this match is very important for them, because a win in this match will mean that they will be only three points from the leader, this is the best result they could expect. But for Liverpool it is a chance to show that the defeat in the first match was accidental, and in case of a win they will increase the gap to 9 points, which is also important.

It will be extremely difficult for Nottingham Forest to win this second leg having won the first with a narrow victory. I don't see Nottingham that strong enough to defeat Liverpool twice in a single season in one competition. This 9 points gap is surely certain and will give Liverpool more dorminace as the secure their position even stronger.

This should be an exciting game because Nottingham is currently on form and will try hard to ensure the game runs in their favour but I just have this confidence that defeating Liverpool twice in the premier by the same team in one competition is almost impossible the worst that will happen is a draw.

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Quote from: blue Snow on January 12, 2025, 07:19:42 PM

The next match premier league is Brentford vs Man City, what yours thought?.
When we look how the previous match the city very mighty to defeat Salford City with 8 goals without conceded, of course, we have optimist that they will do it again when away to Brentford.
But sure Brentford is not the same as Salford which have competed on 4th tier of the league. Brentford won't let The City squad score many goals at their home. They also have the habit to motivated to win if meet a strong team. they look to understand how to terminate Kevin De Bruyne and friend to improve their skill on penalty box. I'm quite optimistic Mbeumo and friends can make the city overwhelmed to create the goals and Brentford will continue their strategy to counter attack, and the match could ended with draw.

This particular encounter is actually a tricky test for this Manchester city side because this is the kind of games we are going to watch and be convince if Manchester city are back or not, because at it stands, most football faithful thought that Manchester city are back to their very best which on my own part I strongly disagree, but this game is actually going to prove if the Manchester city we all know in the past are back or not.
Then on the aspect of if they can score a higher numbers of goals against this Brentford side, no, I don't really think so, though everything is possible, but I don't believe that Manchester city has the capacity right now to thrash Brentford team, because this is an opposition they mostly struggle against even when they are in the top of their game in the past, so I believe that it's actually going to be fierce and fascinating between this two teams.

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