Topic: ⚽ Premier League 2023/2024 Discussion Thread ⚽ - page 67. (Read 58602 times)

it's obvious that the players in the team are not having the best of time and the club and it's almost as though they are all tired of playing for the club already. The club needs total overhauling of both some key players and even a possible sack of ETH. This might be a very bad outing for man united seeing that they are currently at 11th spot on the table of both the euros and the EPL. Of the 6 games they've played, they've only won 2 and even though thier lasrt loss to Tottenham is as a result of the red cadd they collected, it's still not an excuse to the fact that they are performing below what is expected of them. After the last outing at the Euros hasn't Twente that the went out to share a point with the team, if they can't convincing win in today's game against  that lost her tirst game, it will be verh disheartening.

Well, it's a story related to coach Erik Ten Hag is facing the risk of "losing his seat" if he cannot help the team achieve good results in the two matches against Porto and Aston Villa.
But that doesn't mean I'll be so quick to predict the Aston Villa - Manchester United match. I rate Aston Villa highly because they are in good form and spirit after beating Bayern Munich. However, I still like to take risks. I still rate Manchester United as a crazy team, they can play badly. But there are times when they explode like a bomb. So this match I will have a different opinion from you, I will choose Manchester United to win.

I would say Manchester United were just too optimistic about Ten Hag and that high expectations is why most of the fans have been worried to, Ten Hag has won two trophies even if everyone calls it domestic trophies ideally the is the most of any manager in the league bar Pep Guardiola since the Dutchman arrival, so trophy wise I will say they are building on it and winning trophies is definitely a very good way to motivate your team. But let’s be realistic, does anyone knows what pattern Ten Hag plays at Manchester United? I don’t see any pattern here and this is actually worrying to most Manchester United fans. For you to win bigger trophies you a team with structure and then build that with consistent results, not that I will say Arteta and Arsenal are there yet but let’s be honest with ourself that man has don excellently in the way he structure the team, for two seasons In a row Arsenal have been challenging for the league and are only stopped by the best team in Europe.

This summer when the new Manchester United board actually renewed Ten hag contract I was also in support of that decision because he Ten Hag had just came off the season with a poor squad due to injury but won the FA cup so he deserved more chance. This season I have seen Manchester United playing well although some results weren’t coming but the last two games have shown that they are getting back to been poor again, I think the Board will give him time which is not bad to me and see maybe he could do something to this awful result or then just have to fire him if In the next two games the club performance hasn’t changed

Somethings we don't expected was why they won that FA cup last season. I still don't believe Guardiola loss that match to Ten Hag the way they were balling hard last season, and they also look u serious. A lot of bet were washed down the drain that day which is unforgettable and I think it was what gave the management some courage and hope that he was going to perform well this season but I know it was going to be worst of their season again.

Before yesterday Champions League, Manchester United against Aston Villa wasn't much but it seems there is going to be a lil surprise this weekend because Aston Villa won Bayern Munich yesterday, same team that hasn't lose any match this season and now Manchester United want to play against such team this weekend, they can lose that match since it's an away match but who knows, we have to wait to see what the weekend unfold.

In Europe, this type of competition is always going on, with any team outmaneuvering the other team. Every team has to enter the field with a new strategy in every match. It is more necessary to plan with the opposite team than to plan with your own team before entering the field against a team, and if you target any player of the opposite team, you can win for yourself, how to organize the team strategically, the team will do well, but a manager has to ensure in advance. Ten Hag should have achieved more in his tenure at United but what he has achieved in that long time I would say is limited. It is already understood that he will not be able to achieve anything significant this season due to the state of the team. 
So we can naturally assume that this season might be Ten Hag's last season at Manchester United.

Winning only FA Cup titles won't be enough for Manchester United.    They must be in the Premier League title race. It is that simple considering the history of this team.



As you can see they have an amazing history in this league. They still have the most number of titles achieved. It isn't good to see a team like that in this poor condition for many years. Erik ten Hag just can't improve any season. It is the same now as well. He still looks very calm but deep down he must also be really worried about his future. If we don't see positive results until January then I think he can get sacked with immediate effect.

Given Man United's current form and condition with the loss of injured players and Bruno Fernandes facing a suspension, I would not hesitate to bet on Aston Villa to win. Any bettor would have the same choice because the odds provided by the bookmaker are very tempting. And on the one hand all bettors know that Aston Villa are currently very stable and difficult to beat. The worst result that can happen is a draw if Ten Hag parks the bus in front of the goal.

The score prediction looks like 3-1

Totally agreed. I wonder why people in here are thinking Manchester United would not lose if Bruno had not been awarded a red card. He has underperformed. He was inconsistent and atrocious. He was one of the worst in their XI in most games. It's been insufferable to watch him.

Even if he was not getting a red card, most fans agreed he should be benched for his poor play.

You know what when I was sit in the middle school I like Manchester United a lot heck my brother is go crazy when MU is play, because the Premiere league always aired in the early hours of the morning her in Indonesia my brother is always stay up late, But after I saw the record match yesterday I just feel MU is not like it used too.

What do you say about the Aston Villa - Manchester United game in three days?  



Aston Villa are on fire! They have been unbeaten for 7 official games and won 6 of them as well. They even beat Bayern Munich last night. Can you imagine?    Emery's students are unstoppable recently.

On the other hand Manchester United continue to mess up. They are even worse in big games. I don't think they will get any point here too. I believe Aston Villa win @2.31 is worth taking the risk.

Maybe the problem ain't from the e coach, you can't blame individuals errors and blunders caused by players on the pitch on the manager, well when they don't win games they both have to share the responsibilities but I tell you this yeah, pay attention to the build up that lead to all three goals, you'll see that some players had a hand innit or couldn't complete tracking balls back. Erik Ten Hag is a good coach, they just need to start winning games to silence these criticisms. A four man midfied is what I want to see truthfully ( Bruno Fernandez, Eriksen, Casemiro and Ugarte ) against Porto and Aston Villa.

Although MU performance in the EPL is inconsistent, the view on Ten Hag ability has changed a little after he won the FA Cup. Hope is slightly open, especially after bringing in new players in the transfer market. But the fact is very far from what is expected, now MU is still running in place, no change is visible at all. The pressure on him grew after suffering a heavy 0-3 defeat against Tottenham at Old Trafford, and the issue of his dismissal grew stronger. Although there has been no action from management, pressure continues to come from all directions.

In my opinion, the reason the board of directors did not immediately fire Ten Hag was because they had to spend around 17.5 million pounds as compensation for the remainder of his contract which will expire in June 2026, but that amount could be reduced if Ten Hag leaves after reaching an agreement between the two parties or he resigns from his position.

Was the victory a result of luck, certainly because their rivals prefer the prestigious title than the FA Cup and added to the excessive euphoria by their fans made Ten Hag's ego increase, nothing changed from him when he was appointed as head coach of Man United having expensive players would certainly improve the game, but there was no significant progress at the end of last season or the beginning of this season, the only way to get rid of players who do not meet expectations and find a coach who has more flying hours than bringing in a non-superior coach, what's more there are many coaches out there and Man United management has so much money it will certainly be easy to bring in a top coach and of course in accordance with Man United's game philosophy.

I agree with you. When Manchester United won the FA Cup last season I thought maybe Ten Hag will perform better next season. And it seems one of the reasons the club management did not fire him last season was because Ten Hag managed to bring one trophy to Manchester United. But it seems Ten Hag still can't fulfill his responsibility as a manager. Manchester United is still like a mediocre team. As a fan I think almost all fans ask the club management to change the coach. It is very difficult to see United slumping for several seasons and they are no longer competing at the top of the standings. It seems the club board should find another coach for United because the fans are really angry with Ten Hag.

When a team is down, the coach is the first person to blame. The coach is like the brain and the players are like the body parts, all body parts will move following the brain's instructions, as well as football players who always follow the coach's instructions. In my opinion, it is very reasonable for various parties to blame Ten Hag for the winning crisis experienced by Manchester United, because the team's performance is very much influenced by the tactics, player composition, philosophy and plans determined by the coach. So, it often happens that when a player is not in the coach's plans, he will be sold or loaned to another club. Replacing Ten Hag might be better before Manchester United sinks further.

Let’s be honest, with or without that red card Manchester United would have still lost the game because United are in no way ready to win games. Manchester United lack consistency and a clear game strategy, they just approach every game with luck and hope they win. Even before the game I already knew Tottenham will win because they are better organized and determined to get the victory in that game.

If we want to keep the top spot in the Premier League, we must maintain the consistency of good performance. If the performance is not good, it is impossible to hold the top spot in the Premier League table. There is no doubt that Liverpool, Arsenal and City are three very strong teams. Even then, it is not easy for these teams to maintain the consistency of performance.

Manchester City are under a lot of pressure at the moment. City's midfielders are the most important players De Bruyne and Rodri. City's midfield is stable with the help of these two players. And both these players have suffered injuries. Because of this, Guardiola had to change his match strategy. Therefore, it is not surprising to see Manchester City's somewhat erratic performance in the upcoming matches. Liverpool and Arsenal have a big chance to grab the top spot in the table.

For the time being, Arsenal and Liverpool have the opportunity to make Man City fall behind with the absence of Rodri and Kevin because both players are very important for the team and it is seen when they are absent, Man City's matches in the Premier League are not so optimal. I also hope this season will be different, last season Kevin was also injured and Man City was behind Liverpool and Arsenal but unfortunately they sometimes did not really take advantage of the situation and in the end when the Man City players returned this club immediately caught up Arsenal and Liverpool because this club lost points in several matches that's what makes me disappointed, I hope they can break Man City's dominance this season so that the competition in the Premier League looks so competitive and is not considered a farmer league.

Not only on Twitter but all social media was talk about MU who have had a very poor performance this season. Everyone on social media were blaming the coach as the cause, so their fans is agreed to ask for a replacement coach, and currently, there are several circulating names like Alegri who has been recommended by Ferguson to replace Ten Hag. But, we don't know what next, because the official is still undecided until the next match. So, When we talk about who the best coach to MU, Alegri is seem better than Tuchel. because Alegri has more technical understanding to know how the character and mentality of the player, this is different with Tuchel which is more inclined the technical strategy and game plan. MU right now is have problem to how to unite all players to be solid than the strategy.

Rodri is such a unique player and to be frank he will be heavily missed by Manchester city this season, if we look at the stats of Manchester city performance when Rodri is not playing you will he a bit more scared that they will drop points unnecessarily this season, not going to take it away from them I think still have other excellent central midfielders to help fill the space for Rodri, players like Kovacic and Nunez but this two player have different profiles of play that is different from that of Rodri. With Rodri Pep Gurdiola can easily play a single striker or lone defensive midfielder but not with the other two players they basically can be that and as such the team needs to adapt to their Own playing style which will take time and also cost them some games.

This season i will also love to witness a new champion than having Manchester city going on a five times winning streak or run, this will just make the league a farmers league something they have accused other legaue of been in recent years. Arsenal rather than Liverpool is my biggest tip to the tittle if anyone is going to unsurp the champions it is them for the third time trying