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Quote from: hahay on December 28, 2024, 11:37:53 AM

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Odds for all tomorrow's games:

Some might say that betting against Man City is a good value bet, as it doesn't look like the bookies account for Man City's recent streak of 5 games without a win and only 1 win in their last 13 games. Still, I wouldn't bet against them, as I have a feeling they will break that streak and come home with the much-needed 3 points.

I don't know whether Manchester City will succeed or not to break or stop their bad results, because basically Leicester is also a chaotic team this season with a series of bad results that they also get. Thus, because Leicester and Manchester City are both in a bad trend, then it is likely that Manchester City will actually succeed in getting three points even though they are playing away. But even so, I might be confident in choosing the Asian handicap option for Leicester +2 or maybe +2.5. Because yes, it seems that Leicester will also do their best to at least get points because of course, Leicester also still has a mission to be able to get out and stay away from the relegation zone.

City got almost same odds like the game against Everton. It's less than 1.5 even in away game (a trap), and never trust it. I see no sense reason to bet on them in FT result. Although, i actually optimistic they can win the game, keep lower our expectation to them.

I'd rather to pick Asian Handicap Leicester +2.5 instead of +2. I feel so confident City is gonna struggle, and win with narrow score against Leicester.

BTTS doesn't bad to me, but the probability to happen might be a bit lower.

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Quote from: pawel7777 on December 28, 2024, 11:31:16 AM

Odds for all tomorrow's games:

Some might say that betting against Man City is a good value bet, as it doesn't look like the bookies account for Man City's recent streak of 5 games without a win and only 1 win in their last 13 games. Still, I wouldn't bet against them, as I have a feeling they will break that streak and come home with the much-needed 3 points.

That was the same feelings a lot of people had when Manchester City played their last game against Everton, because they felt since Manchester City have lost a lot of matches and they are playing against a suppose not too strong opponent, it was going to be an easy win, first thing you should understand is that Manchester City players are mentally down at the moment, and this has given an increase on opponents to show more strength against a suppose super side, so going forward any match Manchester City are to play, your predictions should be 50/50 either they win or draw, after all Pep Guardiola has not come up with any other tactics apart from the ones he has been using for all this matches.

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Quote from: pawel7777 on December 28, 2024, 11:31:16 AM

Odds for all tomorrow's games:

Some might say that betting against Man City is a good value bet, as it doesn't look like the bookies account for Man City's recent streak of 5 games without a win and only 1 win in their last 13 games. Still, I wouldn't bet against them, as I have a feeling they will break that streak and come home with the much-needed 3 points.

I don't know whether Manchester City will succeed or not to break or stop their bad results, because basically Leicester is also a chaotic team this season with a series of bad results that they also get. Thus, because Leicester and Manchester City are both in a bad trend, then it is likely that Manchester City will actually succeed in getting three points even though they are playing away. But even so, I might be confident in choosing the Asian handicap option for Leicester +2 or maybe +2.5. Because yes, it seems that Leicester will also do their best to at least get points because of course, Leicester also still has a mission to be able to get out and stay away from the relegation zone.

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A good opportunity for Arsenal, they will face a team in the relegation zone which must be utilized as well as possible to get points to be able to overthrow Chelsea from 2nd place.

If Arsenal will win will depend on how Arteta will approach the game especially with team selections. With Gabriel Jesus hot and scoring, his confidence is good to keep him in front and have Havertz playing in from the midfield. Martinelli and Trossard of course, and maybe inbetween the game have a switch of wings since they can play from the flanks. I am not a coach but I feel that will be a more effective strategy than deciding to play Gabriel Jesus from Saka's wing. It will be a must win game Arsenal that they need to win by a lot of goals.

Arsenal football team will play next match against Ipswich Town football team and that will be one sided match because Arsenal team has in form players and who have capacity to do many goals in this match. Arsenal team has top position on the table and lie on the 4th position on the table and that team has 33 points on the table .Ipswich Town football team has very low ranking on the table because that team has only 12 points on the table and that team has 19th position on the table. Arsenal football team last matches performance is excellent because that team won 3 matches out of 5 matches and 2 matches were draw in the last 5 matches but Ipswich Town team could win only 1 match out of 5 matches . Arsenal team will be dominant in this match and match will be one sided in this match.

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Odds for all tomorrow's games:

Some might say that betting against Man City is a good value bet, as it doesn't look like the bookies account for Man City's recent streak of 5 games without a win and only 1 win in their last 13 games. Still, I wouldn't bet against them, as I have a feeling they will break that streak and come home with the much-needed 3 points.

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Quote from: Helena Yu on December 28, 2024, 04:44:58 AM

But, this season is the worst season for Manchester United, they never went to 14th rank since the last 15 years, although technically it's correct to say we need to give time for Amorim, but if he brought Manchester United to enter relegation zone, I'm sure people will ask The Glazers to fire him.

It will be a big shame if Manchester United playing in Championship, Amorim must sign players who can perform.

I will say this confidently that Manchester United wouldn’t relegate, they are just six points away from the top 8 and this is just half the season so I believe they will get more points before the season ends and finish in the top half of the table. This is Ruben Amorim first few games, Ten Hag had a bad start and as able to correct it and at least take them into the top half of the league. But let’s say they relegate I think it will be one of the wonders in the current decade. Will Manchester United get rid of Amorim after then, I doubt because it will be expensive to do so due to the huge contract offered to him

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Quote from: SatoPrincess on December 28, 2024, 04:30:12 AM

I have been reading a lot of criticism of Amorim tactics, Manchester United fans should be patient and try to forge a new path with this manager. Mikel Arteta wasn’t that great in the beginning but he’s now of the top managers in the Premier League. If Amorim is to succeed at Manchester United, he has be assured of the una wavering support of the fans and club management. When Amorim has signed his preferred choice of players, then we can start to expect him to succeed at the club. The previous manager, Erik ten Hag was a menace who almost ruined the club. He spent so much money to bring his former players to the club and they all flopped. I want to believe that Amorim will be better than his predecessor.

Actually to prove his greatness in coaching, he should be able to maximise the current players in the squad, but maybe the criteria of the players they currently have do not match the game that might be applied by amorim, so after a few matches they still not get positive results, previously ten hag had left a very slumped team to be rebuilt by amorim, so inevitably amorim must very hard to work revive the red devils squad into a better team, he had a great achievement with sporting previously, but I think he also built sporting in a long time to be great team, so now manchester united also at least have to give him a lot time to restore the red devils into a great team.

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More rumors about Paul Pogba joining Brazil team.
As I told to you months his carrer in Europe was over after 3 years of inactivity at max level.

Zirkzee can leave Mancester United, Juventus is interested.
Osimhen can join Manchester United and they can sell Zirkee to Napoli for having a discount in the deal.

It will be the negotation of the winter's session.

Pogba's name has been called with many clubs from European leagues lately. Probably with a Premier League club also. But I wasn't expecting to see him playing regularly at a top club anymore. So the information you've given didn't surprise me.

I'm afraid Zirkzee isn't the kind of a striker Manchester United would like to use. They would benefit from a natural scorer rather than him. Hojlund also can't meet the expectations yet. They can still use him but he shouldn't be the main centre-forward.

Yeah I know about their interest in Osimhen. It would be good spending. I guess Amorim is also keen on seeing a forward like him in his club. But this wouldn't be enough. Manchester United should have players who can send the balls to him to score too. Fernandes might not be enough for that.

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More rumors about Paul Pogba joining Brazil team.
As I told to you months his carrer in Europe was over after 3 years of inactivity at max level.

Zirkzee can leave Mancester United, Juventus is interested.
Osimhen can join Manchester United and they can sell Zirkee to Napoli for having a discount in the deal.

It will be the negotation of the winter's session.

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Quote from: Helena Yu on December 28, 2024, 04:44:58 AM

But, this season is the worst season for Manchester United, they never went to 14th rank since the last 15 years, although technically it's correct to say we need to give time for Amorim, but if he brought Manchester United to enter relegation zone, I'm sure people will ask The Glazers to fire him.

It will be a big shame if Manchester United playing in Championship, Amorim must sign players who can perform.

I agree. This is the worst one for the Red Devils so far. Sad

However like I said before and you have also, there is nothing to do other than being patient with Amorim. He wasn't brought last summer. If he was then I'm sure he would have taken big steps by signing new players. There are really weak positions in the squad now. I can't imagine how desperate he is because of this problem. Not having great options for every area.

We haven't seen Rashford even among substitutes since his last appearance against Plzen. It seems like Amorim wants to see him leaving immediately. I'm curious about who they are going to sign to replace him. I believe in Amorim with a good choice of LW.

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Quote from: SatoPrincess on December 28, 2024, 04:30:12 AM

I have been reading a lot of criticism of Amorim tactics, Manchester United fans should be patient and try to forge a new path with this manager. Mikel Arteta wasn’t that great in the beginning but he’s now of the top managers in the Premier League. If Amorim is to succeed at Manchester United, he has be assured of the una wavering support of the fans and club management. When Amorim has signed his preferred choice of players, then we can start to expect him to succeed at the club. The previous manager, Erik ten Hag was a menace who almost ruined the club. He spent so much money to bring his former players to the club and they all flopped. I want to believe that Amorim will be better than his predecessor.

But, this season is the worst season for Manchester United, they never went to 14th rank since the last 15 years, although technically it's correct to say we need to give time for Amorim, but if he brought Manchester United to enter relegation zone, I'm sure people will ask The Glazers to fire him.

It will be a big shame if Manchester United playing in Championship, Amorim must sign players who can perform.

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I have been reading a lot of criticism of Amorim tactics, Manchester United fans should be patient and try to forge a new path with this manager. Mikel Arteta wasn’t that great in the beginning but he’s now of the top managers in the Premier League. If Amorim is to succeed at Manchester United, he has be assured of the una wavering support of the fans and club management. When Amorim has signed his preferred choice of players, then we can start to expect him to succeed at the club. The previous manager, Erik ten Hag was a menace who almost ruined the club. He spent so much money to bring his former players to the club and they all flopped. I want to believe that Amorim will be better than his predecessor.

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Quote from: Oluwa-btc on December 28, 2024, 12:47:47 AM

Maybe I'd channel my energy towards Erling Haaland if I were you. He sucks lately when it comes to converting chances in the premier league, but the least he should have done was at least scored that goal ( the penalty he had ) kudos to Jordan Pickford because, I don't remember the last person who saved Erlings penalty. The problem they have not too difficult to see, they need players who can run and a proper defensive midfield since Rodri can't return.

City's problem isn't just Haaland, they have other forwards who are just as bad, and a penalty doesn't guarantee anything, although everyone hoped he could score. It looks like City are going to do a good job in the transfer market this winter, the team needs new players, they need competition on the bench, without it everything becomes less competitive and results get worse, and even in case of injuries there is no one to fully replace them.

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Quote from: Woodie on December 27, 2024, 06:54:12 PM

The title race is still very much open for the top 4 teams and certainly not limited to Chelsea and Liverpool, but I must say Liverpool have shown more desire to win games that's why they keep coming with results in their favour week in week out... do Arsenal pose to be serious title contenders? I don't think so, it's the same old story of good start but poor finishing..but we shall see how they perform in the next 2 months...

Btw should we put Nottingham Forest as a potential outsider to win it Tongue

Liverpool is just widening the gap toward their opponents in the title race. Although we must remember how City struggled at the mid season, but they came back at the late season. Such thing can happen with Chelsea or Arsenal as well, but i think Liverpool is fully dominating EPL now. Liverpool is just getting even better, though being managed by a new manager.

As for Arsenal, i don't think they pose a serious title contender. This pretty much the same like when they lost the trophy against City at 22/23. They're far behind Liverpool and i see no chance for them to take the trophy. The gap in their odds right is kinda small, but i see no chance for them. I consider Liverpool 's consistency as a key to win any games and lift the trophy.

That's pretty obvious Liverpool is the winner now.

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Quote from: BITCOIN4X on December 27, 2024, 04:26:12 PM

My biggest disappointment this week in the Premier League was when Manchester City drew at home against Everton. Pep Guardiola is at his wits' end to make his team win 3 points in many consecutive matches and these tough times they have not been able to improve even against weaker teams.

After winning 3-0 over Nottingham Forest, Manchester City have gone 5 matches in a row without winning. Manchester City only won 2 points from their last 4 matches in the Premier League, while they lost the match against Juventus in the Champions League. I honestly have to say that Manchester City seems to have unresolved internal problems rather than just losing some important players, I mean about some problems that are not exposed to the media, while the players know about it.

Maybe I'd channel my energy towards Erling Haaland if I were you. He sucks lately when it comes to converting chances in the premier league, but the least he should have done was at least scored that goal ( the penalty he had ) kudos to Jordan Pickford because, I don't remember the last person who saved Erlings penalty. The problem they have not too difficult to see, they need players who can run and a proper defensive midfield since Rodri can't return.

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Quote from: Pokapoka124 on December 27, 2024, 04:27:35 PM

Quote from: Woodie on December 26, 2024, 01:55:36 PM

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Yes, you are right. Manchester United’s recent encounter with Wolves was disappointing. They were battered by the lowest team in the Premier League, showcased the lack of cutting edge in the final third. The match exposed Bruno Fernandez flaws, his two minutes of madness costed Manchester United the match. Manchester United’s performance in that game has made so many supporters to start questioning the mentality of the players if they can be able to play and perform under pressure.

The defeat was clearly very disappointing, they seemed to have difficulty developing their game, especially after Bruno Fernandes received a red card in the 47th minute. In the last few matches, they have always been overwhelmed when playing with 11 vs 11 players, let alone having to face opponents with 10 players. Man United have suffered enough from the difficulty of returning to their best form, but the result obtained at Wolves headquarters was inevitable because Amorim's squad had a big hole after the red card received by Bruno Fernandes.

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Quote from: mamesso on December 27, 2024, 08:18:05 AM

Nottingham Forest has just managed to achieve their 4th consecutive win in the Premier League, the victory over Tottenham has made Nottingham now in the Champions League Zone. Nottingham have been a real shock this season, their brilliance has left the big teams in the lurch. Liverpool lost at Anfield, Man United lost at Old Trafford, Defeated Aston Villa and Tottenham have just become their victims.

This season, Nottingham has become a threat to the big clubs who have always managed to appear in the UCL.

Nottingham Forest has made tremendous progress this season, even though last season they struggled in the relegation zone and only won a few, but this season they can even beat big clubs and be in the Champions League zone, that is a very extraordinary result. I think weak clubs will not always experience difficult times if they try harder they will be able to reach the top and that is what Nottingham Forest did, it seems like they will be a dark horse club this season and will make it difficult for clubs that always dominate the top 5 EPL.

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Quote from: Lida93 on December 27, 2024, 07:24:30 PM

The season seems to be going in favour of Liverpool that everything they do this season in all competitions is resulting in their favour. The top four right now without Manchester city tends to look simple to say Liverpool could win the league trophy should they continue in their winning streaks till the next two months actually. In my opinion, Chelsea, Arsenal and for inclusion Nottingham Forest are really not posing any aggressive threat to Liverpool's campaign for the trophy.

This is the best chance for Liverpool to win the EPL title this season. There is no competitor who is too aggressive to give them a fight. I agree with you. Chelsea and Arsenal are Liverpool's toughest competitors but their performance is inconsistent. Currently Liverpool has a 6-point advantage and will be 9 points if they can win their 18th match. Liverpool is still competing in UCL and EPL and they are very consistent in being the first rank in both competitions. But the tight schedule is risky for players to get injured. Arne Slot must do some player rotation to maintain their fitness and minimize injuries.

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Even if Liverpool try to make mistake just the way they've been doing in previous seasons, Man City this time around are not informed to always take up that opportunity if Liverpool mess up and Arsenal who we all took will pick up the fight from where Manchester City dropped it haven't been living up to expectations. so winning the premier League title this season is almost looking like a free ride for Liverpool. Given the reality on ground Manchester City would only get it's acts together come next season because really looking like all hope is Lost for this season, so try and pardon us if we criticize Manchester City the reason is that, they are the defending champions, so we needed more from them.

You speak as if Arsenal did not top Liverpool in the end of last season, losing the league with just two points to Manchester City while also being behind Liverpool at the table by this time last year.

Although, I won't rule the fact that Liverpool can win the league this season especially now that Manchester City are really far from their best but still got competitors like Arsenal and maybe others, I won't want to see them as the favorite now after how things played last season in the end.

When I spoke about Arsenal not meeting up with our expectations to take charge after Manchester City drop in performance, I was referring to this season, I expected Arsenal to at least top the league table or be on a close points with Liverpool, at least you've remembered that they where two points behind the league winners last season, the normal trajectory would have been that they should be topping the like since their close rivals Manchester City are not in their best form.

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Quote from: Woodie on December 27, 2024, 06:54:12 PM

The title race is still very much open for the top 4 teams and certainly not limited to Chelsea and Liverpool, but I must say Liverpool have shown more desire to win games that's why they keep coming with results in their favour week in week out... do Arsenal pose to be serious title contenders? I don't think so, it's the same old story of good start but poor finishing..but we shall see how they perform in the next 2 months...

Btw should we put Nottingham Forest as a potential outsider to win it Tongue

The season seems to be going in favour of Liverpool that everything they do this season in all competitions is resulting in their favour. The top four right now without Manchester city tends to look simple to say Liverpool could win the league trophy should they continue in their winning streaks till the next two months actually. In my opinion, Chelsea, Arsenal and for inclusion Nottingham Forest are really not posing any aggressive threat to Liverpool's campaign for the trophy.

Chelsea has been inconsistent with their winnings, even arsenal had to struggle to win Ipswich in tonight fixture. Nottingham Forest is mere visitors to the top four and by February they will get back to their actual normal position so I don't count them as potential winners despite where they currently are now, except they hold the fort till February then they can be considered

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