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Quote from: skarais on December 19, 2024, 02:35:35 PM

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So far, Manchester City's performance has been very disappointing, not only fans, but gamblers have also been affected. Many gamblers lose because of Manchester City's defeat, it is because they truly believe that Manchester City can win the match when they are favorites. So regarding that match, both teams have the chance of winning and personally I tend to choose Manchester City to win.

Gamblers will separate or even ignore their favorite team if they see no chance of winning based on their performance.
For me it doesn't really matter whether he is a fan, but in gambling I will be on the team that is more convincing to win even though on the field everything that is impossible can change.
I think punters who are also Premier League fans already know how tight this league is.
As a Premier League fan, I want Manchester City to win to revive the points gap in the title race at the end of the season.

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And I believe that sooner or later Manchester City will find their best form again. Beyond the belief that they will find their best form again, what is clear is that the match against Aston Villa will make many people in a position between choosing to follow the bookies who make Manchester City the favorites to win the match with other predictions that tend not to believe that Pep's team can win.

The match will be fierce and this will make it difficult for some gamblers to bet on which team. It's easy for you to make a choice if you are a fan of one of them, but as a neutral gambler with analysis, I'm sure you will find it difficult to find which one is the most trustworthy.

So far, Manchester City's performance has been very disappointing, not only fans, but gamblers have also been affected. Many gamblers lose because of Manchester City's defeat, it is because they truly believe that Manchester City can win the match when they are favorites. So regarding that match, both teams have the chance of winning and personally I tend to choose Manchester City to win.

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Over time Manchester City will regain their form and it is certain that their probability of winning each match will increase. Regardless of whether Manchester City will lose again or draw, what is clear is that the bookies will place them as favorites to win the match. Even if the risk of betting on Manchester City is really high, but there are always those who bet on their win instead of their opponent.

And I believe that sooner or later Manchester City will find their best form again. Beyond the belief that they will find their best form again, what is clear is that the match against Aston Villa will make many people in a position between choosing to follow the bookies who make Manchester City the favorites to win the match with other predictions that tend not to believe that Pep's team can win.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on December 19, 2024, 07:19:29 AM

Arsenal have been dropping down a little these days. I mean they drew with Fulham and Everton consecutively. Especially that one against Everton after all those goal attempts was a huge disappointment. Sad

I believe now it is time to start winning again. They are playing away against Crystal Palace in 2 days. I think this is a really good opportunity to go for.

Crystal Palace are literally one of the worst teams in home games this season. They won only once out of 8 games there. Sometimes they surprise us against top teams in the league though but I don't expect this to be one of those games.

I was also thinking on that because it will be a very good opportunity for Arsenal to get more 3 points for them to step up a bit again because Nottingham Forest is also playing good because they are only 2 points below Arsenal. Although no one expected that they would have a draw against Fulham and Everton, but that is football; it can easily change to what we didn’t expect.

Moreover, talking about Crystal Palace. Arsenal won the game they played yesterday; the game ended at 3-2. Which end is a knockout for Crystal Palace in the EFL Cup, so that means Arsenal will have the highest chance of winning unless the table turns for them.

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Quote from: Lidger on December 19, 2024, 10:17:30 AM

Manchester City has done such a performance in the English Premier League before but we have not forgotten it. Now Manchester City may be having a temporary bad performance for which Manchester City is being criticized a lot but it is important to have faith in this team because this team still has one of the best managers in the world at the helm who will be able to take this team back to a good position if given the opportunity. The fans had a good faith in the manager of Manchester City and everyone felt that this manager would not spoil Manchester City as long as he was in charge. But Manchester City is currently in this failure due to failure to buy quality players. But I believe Manchester City will prove themselves the best again if given the chance.

This days Manchester City are receiving a terrible criticism, due to their currently performance that is look so bad honestly, the best for the Real Madrid now is for them to buy more quality players but I don’t think what’s wrong with their management that is just over look them; without take any action about that.

Bit the most surprising to me is that with the way they start the season with a wonderful performance I didn’t expect that there performance will look so down in this way, but since there’s still more time before the season should come to an end: we shall see either they can able to turn up.

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What makes me sure that there are those who will bet on Manchester City winning is that what is considered Manchester City can lose because their performance is still in a state of decline is actually reversed in this match.
Based on the results of the two meetings at Villa Park in previous matches, it was noted that the results were very difficult for Manchester City to get full points. This has no effect on Manchester City's current performance.

Aston Villa is also relatively stable this season. I mean, their statistics are good, but not too bad either even though they were able to achieve 3 wins and 2 losses in the last 5 matches. Rather than feeling confused about having to bet on one of them, then betting on a draw or both of them scoring is the most likely scenario that will happen in my opinion.

Over time Manchester City will regain their form and it is certain that their probability of winning each match will increase. Regardless of whether Manchester City will lose again or draw, what is clear is that the bookies will place them as favorites to win the match. Even if the risk of betting on Manchester City is really high, but there are always those who bet on their win instead of their opponent.

Currently Manchester City is trying to return to the Champions League zone by winning their next match. Aston Villa is certainly not an easy opponent and they often make things difficult for their opponents, but I really believe that Pep Guardiola will find a way to win this match amidst the inconsistency of the team's performance. Winning will increase the players' motivation and self-confidence, which is important.

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Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on December 19, 2024, 08:20:11 AM

I definitely would not bet on Man City to win right now. Aston Villa are strong at home too and will probably raise their game against the reigning champions.

Man City have the players to bounce back but it’s a risk backing them to win right now.

I totally agree. Manchester City promise nothing to bettors nowadays. It's better to stay away until Guardiola figures a way out. I'd get really stressful even if they get ahead by 2 goals in case of betting on them lately. Tongue

I think the most reliable clubs are top 3 ones in the league table now: Liverpool, Chelsea and Arsenal. Especially Chelsea are in even a much better condition with a big winning streak. But it won't last forever of course.

For example I wouldn't bet on Chelsea against Everton in their next game. Everton can really give pain to top clubs sometimes. Just like they didn't lose to Arsenal despite being dominated by them.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on December 19, 2024, 07:19:29 AM

Arsenal have been dropping down a little these days. I mean they drew with Fulham and Everton consecutively. Especially that one against Everton after all those goal attempts was a huge disappointment. Sad

I believe now it is time to start winning again. They are playing away against Crystal Palace in 2 days. I think this is a really good opportunity to go for.

Crystal Palace are literally one of the worst teams in home games this season. They won only once out of 8 games there. Sometimes they surprise us against top teams in the league though but I don't expect this to be one of those games.

I think Arsenal's recent decline could be attributed to the growing competition from the smaller clubs whom are trying to win important games and also those teams that are already battling relegation threats and are likely very tedious to face due to their situation but on the other hand I also think Arsenal hasn't shown character as an elite club and ought not to dropping points at home, at least not to a struggling team like Everton, this is one of the reason they lost the league title twice, they are likely going to contend for the title this season alongside Chelsea and Liverpool so they have to step up their game because it going to be a tough battle.

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Quote from: Issa56 on December 18, 2024, 05:03:05 PM

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I believe there are those who bet on Pep Guardiola's team to win even though Manchester City have not been in good form in many of the games they have played.

To be serious, the match will be kind of difficult to predict, because the match that most people will think Manchester City will lose, they might end up winning it, but if I will be making my prediction based on previous matches that Manchester City has played, then it’s going to be difficult for Manchester City to win Aston Villa, because we know Aston Villa to be a good team also, their performance isn’t so bad, since Manchester City's performance has been so poor, and all teams are finding it easy to win against Manchester City, then Aston Villa will also want to take advantage of that, but let’s just wait and see how they are both going to perform.

What makes me sure that there are those who will bet on Manchester City winning is that what is considered Manchester City can lose because their performance is still in a state of decline is actually reversed in this match.
Based on the results of the two meetings at Villa Park in previous matches, it was noted that the results were very difficult for Manchester City to get full points. This has no effect on Manchester City's current performance.

Aston Villa is also relatively stable this season. I mean, their statistics are good, but not too bad either even though they were able to achieve 3 wins and 2 losses in the last 5 matches. Rather than feeling confused about having to bet on one of them, then betting on a draw or both of them scoring is the most likely scenario that will happen in my opinion.

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There is no reason to bet on Manchester City at the moment, it would be like tying a rope around your own neck. Victory is still a mystery for them, just imagine, in the last 11 matches they have only managed to achieve 1 victory. Manchester City still have a complete squad and a great coach, but Guardiola needs to add strength to his team to maintain balance and improve the quality of their game. Of course this condition will not last long, because they have everything to rise again, the January transfer market is one of the solutions.

Why is Manchester city not a good to bet on? even though they just recently under performed compared to their past it's best to recognise that even in their bad days victory is inevitable they can still win matches and that is what I call the surprise of every season, while they have had a bad record in that last few matches they can turn the table around for them with Guardiola still the coach.
In all don't underestimate Manchester City for their weakness the goal machine is not yet out of his prime for his sake city could bounce back I believe that.

If we look at the condition of manchester city now, is not that different with chelsea last season actually, but at that time the chelsea squad began to find its best performance when entering mid-season, so I think, it will also be no different from Manchester City, which currently needs the right momentum to rise, although we don't know when they will rise Grin

, but honestly, for me personally betting for Manchester City is actually still a better choice, because after all with the team and also the experience possessed by Guardiola allows them to return to a positive path, I don't see Manchester City current slump as a permanent slump, especially if Guardiola can get the right player to replace Rodri then we must again prepare to see their dominance in the league.

Exactly my point! we can still risk it, although saying from a point of view that nothing is impossible especially when it comes to Man city with the goal machine playing it's not that hard to retrieve the glory days. And the coach has been on a hot sit since they began the losing streaks but in due time his calculations will pull result just as Chelsea did all that losses but started taking a step forward again and the match which Chelsea starting winning again I believe most people risked it that Chelsea would loss as always but they did get the shock of the week that day which is one reason I still take Manchester city on wins even if they fail.

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With Manchester City in such a bad state this season, betting on them winning at the moment is certainly not a good option, but as an experienced coach and also have a quality squad fast or slow, then they will certainly bounce back.

There is no reason to bet on Manchester City at the moment, it would be like tying a rope around your own neck. Victory is still a mystery for them, just imagine, in the last 11 matches they have only managed to achieve 1 victory. Manchester City still have a complete squad and a great coach, but Guardiola needs to add strength to his team to maintain balance and improve the quality of their game. Of course this condition will not last long, because they have everything to rise again, the January transfer market is one of the solutions.

Why is Manchester city not a good to bet on? even though they just recently under performed compared to their past it's best to recognise that even in their bad days victory is inevitable they can still win matches and that is what I call the surprise of every season, while they have had a bad record in that last few matches they can turn the table around for them with Guardiola still the coach.
In all don't underestimate Manchester City for their weakness the goal machine is not yet out of his prime for his sake city could bounce back I believe that.

If we look at the condition of manchester city now, is not that different with chelsea last season actually, but at that time the chelsea squad began to find its best performance when entering mid-season, so I think, it will also be no different from Manchester City, which currently needs the right momentum to rise, although we don't know when they will rise Grin

, but honestly, for me personally betting for Manchester City is actually still a better choice, because after all with the team and also the experience possessed by Guardiola allows them to return to a positive path, I don't see Manchester City current slump as a permanent slump, especially if Guardiola can get the right player to replace Rodri then we must again prepare to see their dominance in the league.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on December 19, 2024, 07:19:29 AM

Arsenal have been dropping down a little these days. I mean they drew with Fulham and Everton consecutively. Especially that one against Everton after all those goal attempts was a huge disappointment. Sad

I believe now it is time to start winning again. They are playing away against Crystal Palace in 2 days. I think this is a really good opportunity to go for.

Crystal Palace are literally one of the worst teams in home games this season. They won only once out of 8 games there. Sometimes they surprise us against top teams in the league though but I don't expect this to be one of those games.

Basically Arsenal are still on track, and such results I think are not a decline in performance because after all, a team like Arsenal will certainly still experience such results. At least, Arsenal still managed to get points even though only one point in the previous two games, because if Arsenal really experienced a decline in performance then it was a losing streak and not a draw streak. But yes, the point is Arsenal are still in the top three which is certainly still in the competition for trophies, unlike Manchester City who are still getting bad results.

Playing away against Crystal Palace I'm sure Arsenal will still manage to win because after all, last night Arsenal also managed to beat Crystal Palace in the EFL Cup with a score of 3-2. Also, based on the head to head that Arsenal really have good dominance against Crystal Palace, so considering about their trends so far this season, then I personally believe Arsenal have a good chance of being able to beat Crystal Palace.

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Although Manchester City are favorites, it's just that for this match and with their poor statistics, there will definitely be a sense of skepticism even though their possession in matches always looks good.

I definitely would not bet on Man City to win right now. Aston Villa are strong at home too and will probably raise their game against the reigning champions.

Man City have the players to bounce back but it’s a risk backing them to win right now.

The problem in this case is that sometimes conditions are difficult to guess especially when looking at Aston Villa's actual performance is also difficult to guess so for 1x2 regardless of what is at stake actually for this match is quite risky because both clubs seem difficult to predict.

I think another option might still be possible especially if you look at their average and goal ratio per game this will be more interesting if you bet on both clubs scoring but if you really want to try more we can try the over 1.5 scheme because even though I'm not sure either of these two clubs can score a lot of goals but if you look at the conditions that occur where sometimes Aston Villa is strong in fast counterattacks but they are also bad in defense I'm pretty sure they can score in this match.

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With Manchester City in such a bad state this season, betting on them winning at the moment is certainly not a good option, but as an experienced coach and also have a quality squad fast or slow, then they will certainly bounce back.

There is no reason to bet on Manchester City at the moment, it would be like tying a rope around your own neck. Victory is still a mystery for them, just imagine, in the last 11 matches they have only managed to achieve 1 victory. Manchester City still have a complete squad and a great coach, but Guardiola needs to add strength to his team to maintain balance and improve the quality of their game. Of course this condition will not last long, because they have everything to rise again, the January transfer market is one of the solutions.

Why is Manchester city not a good to bet on? even though they just recently under performed compared to their past it's best to recognise that even in their bad days victory is inevitable they can still win matches and that is what I call the surprise of every season, while they have had a bad record in that last few matches they can turn the table around for them with Guardiola still the coach.
In all don't underestimate Manchester City for their weakness the goal machine is not yet out of his prime for his sake city could bounce back I believe that.

Manchester City has done such a performance in the English Premier League before but we have not forgotten it. Now Manchester City may be having a temporary bad performance for which Manchester City is being criticized a lot but it is important to have faith in this team because this team still has one of the best managers in the world at the helm who will be able to take this team back to a good position if given the opportunity. The fans had a good faith in the manager of Manchester City and everyone felt that this manager would not spoil Manchester City as long as he was in charge. But Manchester City is currently in this failure due to failure to buy quality players. But I believe Manchester City will prove themselves the best again if given the chance.

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Quote from: hyudien on December 19, 2024, 08:27:19 AM

Arsenal are not the same as last season, perhaps because of the return of Liverpool and Chelsea to the hunt putting Arsenal in a situation where they cannot develop. I would not underestimate Crystal Palace, in fact Arteta underestimates weak opponents and that is where Arsenal have problems.

Last season City and Arsenal were competing for the EPL title. But this season both of them are inconsistent and as you said, they are not the same as the previous season. On the other hand, Liverpool are very aggressive this season and Chelsea are surprisingly able to be in second place in the standings and fighting for the title with Liverpool. Whereas in the previous season Chelsea were only able to finish in 6th place in the standings. IMO I think one of the reasons why Chelsea are performing quite well this season is probably because they do not have a heavy international competition schedule like Liverpool who are playing in the UCL or United who are playing in the UEL. Chelsea are playing in the European conference cup and I think they are playing against mediocre teams so Maresca does not have to always rotate players in every match to maintain their stamina.

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Although Manchester City are favorites, it's just that for this match and with their poor statistics, there will definitely be a sense of skepticism even though their possession in matches always looks good.

I definitely would not bet on Man City to win right now. Aston Villa are strong at home too and will probably raise their game against the reigning champions.

Man City have the players to bounce back but it’s a risk backing them to win right now.

Aston Villa hasn't won against a top 6 side this season, their only point was against shitty United team under Erik, I doubt City would drop any further point for two consecutive weeks although I won't be placing on money line I would likely go with BTTS and O2.5 goals to be on the safer side as both teams are likely going to score.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on December 19, 2024, 07:19:29 AM

Arsenal have been dropping down a little these days. I mean they drew with Fulham and Everton consecutively. Especially that one against Everton after all those goal attempts was a huge disappointment. Sad

I believe now it is time to start winning again. They are playing away against Crystal Palace in 2 days. I think this is a really good opportunity to go for.

Crystal Palace are literally one of the worst teams in home games this season. They won only once out of 8 games there. Sometimes they surprise us against top teams in the league though but I don't expect this to be one of those games.

Arsenal are not the same as last season, perhaps because of the return of Liverpool and Chelsea to the hunt putting Arsenal in a situation where they cannot develop. I would not underestimate Crystal Palace, in fact Arteta underestimates weak opponents and that is where Arsenal have problems.

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Quote from: topbitcoin on December 19, 2024, 02:32:26 AM

Although Manchester City are favorites, it's just that for this match and with their poor statistics, there will definitely be a sense of skepticism even though their possession in matches always looks good.

I definitely would not bet on Man City to win right now. Aston Villa are strong at home too and will probably raise their game against the reigning champions.

Man City have the players to bounce back but it’s a risk backing them to win right now.

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Quote from: topbitcoin on December 19, 2024, 02:32:26 AM

Although Manchester City are favorites, it's just that for this match and with their poor statistics, there will definitely be a sense of skepticism even though their possession in matches always looks good.

There is always a little bit of doubt in every bet but for now that Man City isn't doing too good there is higher doubt that Man city will ever deliver when it comes to bigger teams but at the same time I do believe that they can bounce back at any time so that makes it easier and difficult at the same time to believe they will win because they can win from any match to begin the changes but then would it be this next match or another match that's where we draw the line of doubt in man city.

Since the coach is still working on the team I believe they will surely bring the terrible results to an end.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on December 19, 2024, 07:19:29 AM

Arsenal have been dropping down a little these days. I mean they drew with Fulham and Everton consecutively. Especially that one against Everton after all those goal attempts was a huge disappointment. Sad

I believe now it is time to start winning again. They are playing away against Crystal Palace in 2 days. I think this is a really good opportunity to go for.

Crystal Palace are literally one of the worst teams in home games this season. They won only once out of 8 games there. Sometimes they surprise us against top teams in the league though but I don't expect this to be one of those games.

You know Arsenal is in the top 3, but i can't get confidence to bet on them. This caused by they bottled so some points in their last game against Fullham, and i'm seeing Palace is a same typical club as Fulham. They're flops at the early season, but starting to bump mid to the late season.

I have no doubt they could win the game easily, but seeing how poor their performance in the last game, and it makes me lose my trust on them. Although, they got 1.65 for away game against Palace, they can also get another draw. I think it's quite reasonable to put money on double chance, or maybe Total Over. My 2 cents.

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