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Quote from: SmartCharpa on December 18, 2024, 07:06:08 AM

However, I don't believe any gambler can ever bet on Guardiola's team to win a match at this stage unless they don't want their money. We believe that gambling is risky, but I would rather bet on Aston Villa to win than on Manchester City, who are now in their worst form. Your prediction is also safe, it's a difficult game that could end with both sides scoring a goal or more than 2.5 goals.

The conditions are a little complicated for Manchester City at the moment but for 1x2 I think everyone has their own choices including being in Manchester City because even though for now City's performance is still in a disadvantageous condition including in the quality of their attacks and scoring goals but there will be a lot of people who will be in the bet just to test their luck.

I think setting aside a little money for this bet is still possible to do although if you want to be safer then obviously the choice is to avoid matches that are at risk of failure and this match is one of the risks.

Although Manchester City are favorites, it's just that for this match and with their poor statistics, there will definitely be a sense of skepticism even though their possession in matches always looks good.

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Betting on Manchester City is not something that would make sense right now, not until they fix their issue ,right now they look like they are not doing that well and I feel like there will be some issues on the long run we can't fix, I believe that is not going to be the best case scenario and I believe we need to consider this to be all that complicated as well.

I can see why people would think that way, but it is not that easy and we could focus on making a much better return on other teams as well. I get that we are going to end up with a greater problems if we bet on Manchester City considering how they are losing to even worst teams, and that means if we do bet on them, then it is going to be very hard for them to recover from that.

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Quote from: tusandii on December 18, 2024, 08:19:15 PM

Quote from: hyudien on December 18, 2024, 12:07:19 PM

If Pep Guardiola status as a coach is clearly threatened and he admitted it in front of the press. It's natural because no matter how great you are as a coach, you must admit your mistakes and accept the consequences. However, because Man City has no better choice than Pep Guardiola, the only way is to give him a chance. I'm sure Pep will find his best game again, it's just a matter of time to calm down.

As a coach who carries full responsibility, it is very natural for Pep Guardiola to feel guilty because his club is in decline and he will receive a lot of criticism from various parties, but I am sure the club and fans still respect him because he has given many trophies to Man City, don't just because of 1 mistake make the club not see Pep Guardiola's hard work so far. And it would be very embarrassing if Pep Guardiola decided to resign when the club's situation was chaotic, it would be better to fix it and if he wants to leave the club, leave a good impression.

Pep Guardiola has just extended his contract until 2027 so it is unlikely that he will leave the Manchester City team because the team is experiencing problems like now.
Pep Guardiola has been very dedicated to Manchester City, so I am sure that Manchester City management will not corner Pep just because of the problems they have experienced in the last 1 month and that happened for obvious reasons because many of Manchester City's main players were injured.
So I think Manchester City management will support Pep in the January transfer market and I am quite sure that Pep can get Manchester City out of the current problems.

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Quote from: reagansimms on December 18, 2024, 09:26:29 PM

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Quote from: mamesso on December 17, 2024, 09:40:06 PM

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With Manchester City in such a bad state this season, betting on them winning at the moment is certainly not a good option, but as an experienced coach and also have a quality squad fast or slow, then they will certainly bounce back.

There is no reason to bet on Manchester City at the moment, it would be like tying a rope around your own neck. Victory is still a mystery for them, just imagine, in the last 11 matches they have only managed to achieve 1 victory. Manchester City still have a complete squad and a great coach, but Guardiola needs to add strength to his team to maintain balance and improve the quality of their game. Of course this condition will not last long, because they have everything to rise again, the January transfer market is one of the solutions.

Why is Manchester city not a good to bet on? even though they just recently under performed compared to their past it's best to recognise that even in their bad days victory is inevitable they can still win matches and that is what I call the surprise of every season, while they have had a bad record in that last few matches they can turn the table around for them with Guardiola still the coach.
In all don't underestimate Manchester City for their weakness the goal machine is not yet out of his prime for his sake city could bounce back I believe that.

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Quote from: Palakka on December 18, 2024, 11:59:01 AM

Quote from: mamesso on December 17, 2024, 09:40:06 PM

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With Manchester City in such a bad state this season, betting on them winning at the moment is certainly not a good option, but as an experienced coach and also have a quality squad fast or slow, then they will certainly bounce back.

There is no reason to bet on Manchester City at the moment, it would be like tying a rope around your own neck. Victory is still a mystery for them, just imagine, in the last 11 matches they have only managed to achieve 1 victory. Manchester City still have a complete squad and a great coach, but Guardiola needs to add strength to his team to maintain balance and improve the quality of their game. Of course this condition will not last long, because they have everything to rise again, the January transfer market is one of the solutions.

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Quote from: hyudien on December 18, 2024, 12:07:19 PM

If Pep Guardiola status as a coach is clearly threatened and he admitted it in front of the press. It's natural because no matter how great you are as a coach, you must admit your mistakes and accept the consequences. However, because Man City has no better choice than Pep Guardiola, the only way is to give him a chance. I'm sure Pep will find his best game again, it's just a matter of time to calm down.

As a coach who carries full responsibility, it is very natural for Pep Guardiola to feel guilty because his club is in decline and he will receive a lot of criticism from various parties, but I am sure the club and fans still respect him because he has given many trophies to Man City, don't just because of 1 mistake make the club not see Pep Guardiola's hard work so far. And it would be very embarrassing if Pep Guardiola decided to resign when the club's situation was chaotic, it would be better to fix it and if he wants to leave the club, leave a good impression.

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Quote from: Palakka on December 18, 2024, 11:59:01 AM

With Manchester City in such a bad state this season, betting on them winning at the moment is certainly not a good option, but as an experienced coach and also have a quality squad fast or slow, then they will certainly bounce back.

Although manchester citi performance is in a very bad condition, I don't see guardiola position as coach threatened at this time, even actually manchester city and guardiola have signed a new contract until 2027 later, meaning, manchester city is likely to continue to support guardiola at this time, because sacking a coach who won 17 trophies just because of 1 season of failure is a stupid action they will not take.

Yes, He just didn't win for the 1st time, and management should be maintained him until finished his contract. I don't know why too many voice want him to fired, because Pep give Manchester City everything on 8 years. it's a pretty short time for 17 trophies. Because when I look at some coaches who trained the club for long time, they doesn't get as many trophies as Pep did, this is an achievement that cannot be equaled by others coach, and I think, even if Pep get fired, Manchester City will have difficulty finding a new coach who can equalize his achievements.

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Quote from: Nheer on December 18, 2024, 04:40:06 PM

Even the bookies are scared to not favor Manchester City because with their reputation they always think they will bounce after every match and even after losing series of games they still favor them because of their reputation although the odd difference keeps increasing gradually. Aston Villa are also currently struggling for form but then they still look like a team that will give Manchester City tough time even if they don’t win.
Betting on a side might be more risky so i also think BTTS will be the best pick for this game because no team can be relied on to win but both teams are likely to score and concede as well. The game will be an interesting game despite both teams struggling at the moment.

Yep, that's right because Man City reputation and historical statistics make bookies slightly more favored even though the results are not always Man City wins. On the one hand, bookies also consider many things such as injured players or other internal problems that we may not know.
And regarding betting on one side of this match, it is indeed very risky. However, the odds we get are equivalent to the risk we take. But if I have to choose BTTS, I am also a good choice but the odds are not too big.
Temporary prediction, the result of the match could end in a draw.

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Quote from: Palakka on December 18, 2024, 11:59:01 AM

With Manchester City in such a bad state this season, betting on them winning at the moment is certainly not a good option, but as an experienced coach and also have a quality squad fast or slow, then they will certainly bounce back.

It's all about the odds and probability. If the odds are right, it could pay to take a risk and bet on them. But, so far, they've been bookies' favorite despite the bad streak of losses and draws, so betting on them just didn't make sense, as the rewards (potential payouts) were not worth the risk.

That being said, I just checked their odds for an outright Premier League winner. They are currently 4th with odds of x15.0, the first Liverpool yields x1.79.
Now, are they likely to win the league? No. But x15.0 could make it worth to put few $ on them. They are currently 9 points behind (or 12 if we assume Liverpool will win their outstanding game against Everton). And let's not forget this is the same team that has proven they can play well, i.e. by winning last season. If Pep Guardiola manages to fix what's broken soon, they could bounce back maybe even stronger. And if such a horrible period of sub-standard performance could happen to the City, who's to say it could not happen to Liverpool.

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Quote from: Issa56 on December 18, 2024, 05:03:05 PM

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I believe there are those who bet on Pep Guardiola's team to win even though Manchester City have not been in good form in many of the games they have played.

To be serious, the match will be kind of difficult to predict, because the match that most people will think Manchester City will lose, they might end up winning it, but if I will be making my prediction based on previous matches that Manchester City has played, then it’s going to be difficult for Manchester City to win Aston Villa, because we know Aston Villa to be a good team also, their performance isn’t so bad, since Manchester City's performance has been so poor, and all teams are finding it easy to win against Manchester City, then Aston Villa will also want to take advantage of that, but let’s just wait and see how they are both going to perform.

The most difficult situation of gamblers is when their favorite and the most competent team begins to lose match. Gamblers do not easily acknowledge the reality as they will always speculate that a good team will surely turn out to be a good team. There are so many people who are still confident in Pep Guardiola and Manchester City even if they lose 20 matches in a row. But that is not how football works. If Manchester City was playing an ordinary random team, we would have said they will win the match. But Manchester City in their worse form playing against Aston Villa is a difficult thing to go home with 3 points. I am personally expecting a bad match for Manchester City again unless they real have to do something different to change the narrative. Emry is not a small man in England.

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Quote from: yudi09 on December 18, 2024, 01:02:20 PM

I believe there are those who bet on Pep Guardiola's team to win even though Manchester City have not been in good form in many of the games they have played.

To be serious, the match will be kind of difficult to predict, because the match that most people will think Manchester City will lose, they might end up winning it, but if I will be making my prediction based on previous matches that Manchester City has played, then it’s going to be difficult for Manchester City to win Aston Villa, because we know Aston Villa to be a good team also, their performance isn’t so bad, since Manchester City's performance has been so poor, and all teams are finding it easy to win against Manchester City, then Aston Villa will also want to take advantage of that, but let’s just wait and see how they are both going to perform.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on December 17, 2024, 12:10:30 PM

Manchester City are favoured like all the time but they always disappoint us in betting these days. Sad

I believe this is also a game which is likely to be the same. Aston Villa aren't also having a much better season maybe but they are going to play against the worst Manchester City in Guardiola era at the same time. Even if Aston Villa win here it wouldn't be shocking.

However my preference wouldn't be a bet on a side in this one. Instead, BTTS @1.52 looks decent to give it a chance. I hope to watch a game in which both sides score.

Even the bookies are scared to not favor Manchester City because with their reputation they always think they will bounce after every match and even after losing series of games they still favor them because of their reputation although the odd difference keeps increasing gradually. Aston Villa are also currently struggling for form but then they still look like a team that will give Manchester City tough time even if they don’t win.
Betting on a side might be more risky so i also think BTTS will be the best pick for this game because no team can be relied on to win but both teams are likely to score and concede as well. The game will be an interesting game despite both teams struggling at the moment.

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Quote from: Litzki1990 on December 18, 2024, 11:09:07 AM

I used to always bet on Real Madrid and Manchester City in previous seasons as well but after losing a couple of matches earlier this season I have refrained from betting on these two teams for the time being. Initially I thought the two teams would do well and bet on them with more chances to win but they have dropped points in some easy matches and that has affected our bets. Real Madrid is trying to come back from a bad performance but Manchester City has not shown the kind of performance so far that we can say that Manchester City will come back. For now, without betting on Manchester City, you should watch their games, if they can perform well again, they can be considered bad.

Not every team could stay at the top forever, every team eventually will fall and be bad, and that's what we are seeing with Manchester City right now. Can't say the same about Real Madrid, while they did had some bad moments during the season, they are not doing as bad as they used to and they are doing fine right now.

Manchester City on the other hand, is not looking good at all, and I feel like we could consider this to be changing for the long term as well, can't say that we are dealing with a great situation, has to be considered something that would eventually happen. Every big team eventually falls, and this is the time for them, if Pep keeps changing the team and get some younger better players, then maybe they can get back to being better.

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Quote from: SmartCharpa on December 18, 2024, 07:06:08 AM

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However, I don't believe any gambler can ever bet on Guardiola's team to win a match at this stage unless they don't want their money. We believe that gambling is risky, but I would rather bet on Aston Villa to win than on Manchester City, who are now in their worst form. Your prediction is also safe, it's a difficult game that could end with both sides scoring a goal or more than 2.5 goals.

I believe there are those who bet on Pep Guardiola's team to win even though Manchester City have not been in good form in many of the games they have played.

They are prepared to lose because gambling can turn out to be lucky for the gambler. There are gamblers who place different bets on two betting lists. In betting list 1, they bet on Manchester City to win and in the other betting list they bet on the other outcome.
But I don't know what the odds are for each team. If the bookmaker's odds are higher for Manchester City, I would probably bet on Manchester City too.

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Quote from: Pandorak on December 17, 2024, 05:01:21 AM

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This weekend will be another problem for Manchester City, they face Aston Villa who in terms of player quality are in their most solid mode. Aston Villa seriousness in the Champions League proves that the match against Manchester City must also be taken seriously. Imao, Pep Guardiola problems are not over after they lost to Manchester United, now they face a challenge that is not easy. Aston Villa is sure to be able to join in the party to give Pep Guardiola a surprise.

What are your predictions for this weekend matches?

In my opinion, it is clear that the current condition of Machester City which has suffered consecutive defeats, will definitely add to the deep anxiety, Aston Villa is in the best condition at this time compared to Machester City, which is facing some problems, plus defeat after defeat continues to be experienced, Aston Villa is in favorable conditions this time, if they are serious in this match, they have great potential to win the match.

Irrespective of the issues that Manchester city are going through at the moment, I still haven't lost faith in the club and I still consider them favourites in all the matches they have played in including the match against manchester united. I have watched this club do a lot of wonderful things both in England and in Europe and I have no doubt that they would bounce back,

I wouldn't be surprised seeing them back to the title race because they have always done it in the past, though they might be having some psychological problems in the team which has a led to a drastic decline in their performance but I believe with time they would get back on their feet and I also consider them to be favourites against Aston villa and I expect them to win all 3 points against Aston villa.

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Quote from: Palakka on December 18, 2024, 11:59:01 AM

With Manchester City in such a bad state this season, betting on them winning at the moment is certainly not a good option, but as an experienced coach and also have a quality squad fast or slow, then they will certainly bounce back.

Although manchester citi performance is in a very bad condition, I don't see guardiola position as coach threatened at this time, even actually manchester city and guardiola have signed a new contract until 2027 later, meaning, manchester city is likely to continue to support guardiola at this time, because sacking a coach who won 17 trophies just because of 1 season of failure is a stupid action they will not take.

If Pep Guardiola status as a coach is clearly threatened and he admitted it in front of the press. It's natural because no matter how great you are as a coach, you must admit your mistakes and accept the consequences. However, because Man City has no better choice than Pep Guardiola, the only way is to give him a chance. I'm sure Pep will find his best game again, it's just a matter of time to calm down.

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I personally have been avoiding betting on all Manchester city games because I usually will not get the balls to bet for the opposing side, as I always get this feeling that "maybe Manchester city will win this one", and on betting on them, they end up losing, and causing me to loose money, so, I decided the maybe the best thing to do is to hold my peace with all their games.

Anyone would try to avoid betting on Man City, which is very realistic in my opinion due to their increasingly poor form. This season I don't expect much from Man City, at least they have to maintain their top four position to appear in UCL next season. Guardiola fate is increasingly hanging in the balance, reportedly several names have been prepared to replace his position. Xabi Alonso, Arteta and Kompany are considered ideal replacements for the coach who has presented various trophies for Man City.

With Manchester City in such a bad state this season, betting on them winning at the moment is certainly not a good option, but as an experienced coach and also have a quality squad fast or slow, then they will certainly bounce back.

Although manchester citi performance is in a very bad condition, I don't see guardiola position as coach threatened at this time, even actually manchester city and guardiola have signed a new contract until 2027 later, meaning, manchester city is likely to continue to support guardiola at this time, because sacking a coach who won 17 trophies just because of 1 season of failure is a stupid action they will not take.

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Manchester City are favoured like all the time but they always disappoint us in betting these days. Sad

I believe this is also a game which is likely to be the same. Aston Villa aren't also having a much better season maybe but they are going to play against the worst Manchester City in Guardiola era at the same time. Even if Aston Villa win here it wouldn't be shocking.

However my preference wouldn't be a bet on a side in this one. Instead, BTTS @1.52 looks decent to give it a chance. I hope to watch a game in which both sides score.

BTTS seems a likely winner because they’re both conceding goals regularly this season. Neither of them are close to the performances and results they were getting last season.

Pep looks really stressed and under severe pressure, he isn't used to this kind of form in his management career. Sometimes eras end, it looks like this Manchester City team is long past its best.

I personally have been avoiding betting on all Manchester city games because I usually will not get the balls to bet for the opposing side, as I always get this feeling that "maybe Manchester city will win this one", and on betting on them, they end up losing, and causing me to loose money, so, I decided the maybe the best thing to do is to hold my peace with all their games.

But then, coming to their coming game with Aston Villa, I will agree that BTTS is a more appropriate bet to go for. It's hard, almost impossible to tell which of this sides will win the match as not clubs are not in their best form this season, so "both team to score" seems more likely the winning bet here, I'm possibly going to try this one.

I used to always bet on Real Madrid and Manchester City in previous seasons as well but after losing a couple of matches earlier this season I have refrained from betting on these two teams for the time being. Initially I thought the two teams would do well and bet on them with more chances to win but they have dropped points in some easy matches and that has affected our bets. Real Madrid is trying to come back from a bad performance but Manchester City has not shown the kind of performance so far that we can say that Manchester City will come back. For now, without betting on Manchester City, you should watch their games, if they can perform well again, they can be considered bad.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on December 17, 2024, 12:10:30 PM

Manchester City are favoured like all the time but they always disappoint us in betting these days. Sad

I believe this is also a game which is likely to be the same. Aston Villa aren't also having a much better season maybe but they are going to play against the worst Manchester City in Guardiola era at the same time. Even if Aston Villa win here it wouldn't be shocking.

However my preference wouldn't be a bet on a side in this one. Instead, BTTS @1.52 looks decent to give it a chance. I hope to watch a game in which both sides score.

I don't understand why bookmakers prefer Manchester City over their opponents, even if they are going to lose the match. Manchester City were given more chances against Juventus in the Champions League, but they lost without scoring a goal. In a similar way in the Premier League against Manchester United, Manchester City was given @1.60 odds, I expected another defeat for the United side, but the match ended with a shocking result. They will face Aston Villa next weekend, and Manchester City appears to be the favorite according to the bookmakers.

However, I don't believe any gambler can ever bet on Guardiola's team to win a match at this stage unless they don't want their money. We believe that gambling is risky, but I would rather bet on Aston Villa to win than on Manchester City, who are now in their worst form. Your prediction is also safe, it's a difficult game that could end with both sides scoring a goal or more than 2.5 goals.

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Quote from: Pandorak on December 17, 2024, 09:27:00 PM

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In my opinion, it is clear that the current condition of Machester City which has suffered consecutive defeats, will definitely add to the deep anxiety, Aston Villa is in the best condition at this time compared to Machester City, which is facing some problems, plus defeat after defeat continues to be experienced, Aston Villa is in favorable conditions this time, if they are serious in this match, they have great potential to win the match.

Aston Villa in the match against Manchester City has a big chance of winning depending on how they take advantage of the opportunity to take 3 points from Manchester City. Aston Villa is indeed in good form and the opposing team is not an easy team to beat, Manchester City is in mental trouble again because of consecutive defeats. Aston Villa can take the opportunity in this condition.

Of course, let's wait for what will happen, whether Manchester City will make a surprise by winning this match or on the contrary, Aston Villa with better conditions than Manchester City will win the match, we will see.
because i think Manchester City will not let Aston Villa win easily, after several defeats, Machester City will definitely train harder for this match.

If we look at the performance of both the teams, Aston Villa is slightly better than Manchester City as they have won 3 of their few matches and Manchester City have won only 1 of their matches. So if expected, Aston Villa can win the match otherwise this match is also based on draw. We focus mostly on Manchester City as they have worsened their record rather than improved it so they have a chance to win this match and start playing to improve their record.We want Manchester City to do the same with Aston Villa but there is little truth in that as Manchester City have had very easy wins but Manchester City have lost in that too so It is not expected.

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