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Manchester United pathern of play in this first half was really entertaining, Manchester United lack a good goal scorer in the first half as some many chances where been miss out. I noticed Manchester United play was around Alejandro Garnacho though crystal palace goalkeeper did some good save in the first half definitely I see Manchester United winning this game due to there first half performance by the time Marcus Rashford and Rasmus Hojlund will come in in the second half I believe Manchester United will be able to find the net.
Manchester United played well in the match, but they couldn’t secure a goal, which is really a bad one. They dominated the match in both the first half and second half of the match, but everything ended in a draw. When the first half of the match ended, most people expected Manchester United to score in the second half of the match, but Crystal Palace was able to hold Manchester United down, and they both shared the points, which is not really good for Manchester United, they are currently in 11th position on the table. After Manchester United fans are thinking they are getting back to form, and they were saying Crystal Palace will be a bonus to them, but they couldn’t defeat them.


Manchester United did play a bad game overall. They were so wasteful, they missed many chances to win. Their performance was worse than in previous games.

They performed so differently. Too many backpasses on the back line. The attackers were toothless and couldn't find the net. Very disappointed how they get draw as their final result.

In the end, they could win the game if they was not being so wasteful in this game. They had the chances to have absolutely buried them.
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A potentially the biggest game of the first half of the season is ahead of us this Sunday. Man City is playing Arsenal at home.
Odds are as follows:
Man City: x1.80
Draw: x3.66
Arsenal: x4.50

If Arsenal loses this one, they will be 5 points behind, and we all know, from the last season, how hard it can be to make up for such difference.
I think a draw is quite likely. City is really hard to beat at home, and Arsenal, so far, has a really good defence, losing only 1 goal in the the first 4 league games. I hope we won't see another 0-0 though. Odds makers seem to believe that most likely we'll see two goals or less.

Manchester City against Arsenal match may likely end in a tie because they both played draw in their Champions League games and the funny thing is that they both ended in 0:0 score in their respective games in the champions league. I know that bookmakers always gives the favourite odds to Manchester City due to the fact that they mostly win Arsenal in their meetings. Arsenal is still in a good form currently same as Manchester City and the season is still new such that the both teams don't have much injury records so the players are still very much active and ready to play with enthusiasm so it will be a very tough game even though most football analysts are predicting Manchester City to win.
Tomorrow the biggest match of the Premier League will be held where Manchester City and Arsenal will be the opponents. If we discuss the two biggest teams in the Premier League at the moment, then Manchester City and Arsenal will definitely be at the top of the discussion because this team has been performing brilliantly for the past few seasons and the position of these two teams has been at number one or number two in the points table.
Many are saying that tomorrow's match is likely to be a draw but the statistics of the match may be different if either team scores earlier and goes ahead. Since the opponents are almost equal, the team that scores first between the two teams will have more chances to win. I will refrain from betting on this match and I will only enjoy this match.
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Dominating a game from the first minute till the last minute and still fail to win it as as good as the opposing team who was dominated because at the end of the day, both teams will leave the pitch with just one point apiece. Manchester United style of football have limited the potentials of the players in the team and that's why they're not performing at the top of their game.
If a player like Alejandro Garnacho is managed by a better manager who understands how to use his pacy and skillful playing pattern, I'm sure he'll be competing with his peers as one of the best players in the world. The earlier the club management of Manchester United comes to terms that the club will not grow more that it is now if their current manager continues to be at the club, the better for them.
Maybe because MU's players still on euphoric the big win the other day so neglect to take advantage of opportunities. I don't know why Ten Hag didn't play Rashford as starter. maybe if he played earlier can provide motivation for other players to create the winning as in the previous 2 games. Some players also showed poor performance, and giving up opportunities in front of goal. they are like "reset to  the factory" and forgot how well they played the other day.
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I think it's safe to say that most of today's games would have easily been predicted with a few exceptions like the Manchester United boredraw against Crystal Palace a game we all knew was going to be tough...

On the bright side, some teams impressed...the likes of Chelsea and Jackson leading the attack, some convincing performance...and Liverpool back to winning ways I think punters had a great day.

Looking forward to the Manchester City- Arsenal game ..

Actually you are right but I'm sure United ruined a lot of betting tickets today and I still cannot understand how Ten Hag is still their coach after failing so many times in the last couple of years.

It was quite a tough match to predict because several things where to be considered in which if properly examined one would come up with the feeling of not even trusting Manchester united to achieve any goals. in the recent times they have been doing well in some areas just like the past match which they won 7:0 against Barnsley but from the statistics of crystal palace they are well trained to play a defensive game which was why Manchester united find it difficult to break through this tough defense.

I already had the feeling that it would probably end in draw so I took the away or draw option on my local betting site which came out correct. So people just had to go for other options than straight winning because it wouldn't work with crystal palace.
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Manchester United really dominated the first half with many goal opportunities, but none of them were scored. The first half ended goalless, while throughout the second half the score was still the same. Crystal Palace started to improve in the second half and they tended to be able to develop their game and try to press, it worked with several opportunities that could not be converted into goals.

Dominating a game from the first minute till the last minute and still fail to win it as as good as the opposing team who was dominated because at the end of the day, both teams will leave the pitch with just one point apiece. Manchester United style of football have limited the potentials of the players in the team and that's why they're not performing at the top of their game.
If a player like Alejandro Garnacho is managed by a better manager who understands how to use his pacy and skillful playing pattern, I'm sure he'll be competing with his peers as one of the best players in the world. The earlier the club management of Manchester United comes to terms that the club will not grow more that it is now if their current manager continues to be at the club, the better for them.
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Manchester United really dominated the first half with many goal opportunities, but none of them were scored. The first half ended goalless, while throughout the second half the score was still the same. Crystal Palace started to improve in the second half and they tended to be able to develop their game and try to press, it worked with several opportunities that could not be converted into goals.
Mhannn, that miss by garnacho would have been a finesse goal -- fuckin' inches away, swiping through the keeper's gloves and hitting the cross bar!!!?? I nearly screamed my head out. The second touch by Fernandez wasn't accurate anyway, otherwise, they would have sealed that goal. A reply of that, with the way the pass was laid out tells me alot about how united has improved their gameplay over time.

On the other hand, crystal palace also had -- almost the same opportunity, but lost it on a one-on-one encounter with onana... How insane was that? I just find it hard to believe, but I think man united played so well in the game, but were unlucky to bag home that 3 points.
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It is simply a head-to-head record between them at Crystal Palace's home stadium in the recent years. As Manchester United are playing away it is healthier to consider that rather than the games at Old Trafford. Besides things don't go the way you tell us exactly. Head-to-head games really matter. It is useful to analyze what can possibly happen. I have been using these stats while making bets and I can confidently say I won many bets thanks to it.  Smiley



By the way the opening game of the fifth week is going to be West Ham - Chelsea. Honestly I believe in Chelsea to win this tough game. West Ham already lost to Aston Villa and Manchester City home.

They have serious weaknesses against challenging teams. Considering how capable Chelsea also are on paper, they can do it. Big thanks to Palmer though.  Tongue
I am not giving that priority to Chelsea any longer as believe how they have dropped in their performance. And of course West Ham gonna beat them since few matches I gave chelsea winning but they wholly failed me and instead i lost completely I wouldn't try it that much to give them any further winning instead they can likely draw.
Just when you gave up on Chelsea, they are flying high with their first half victory over West Ham. I can only understand how disappointed you would be right now but you have to understand that emotions are not needed in gambling. You've got to develop some kind of consistency, choose your team and continue consistently with them and you could be making more progress that you would if you continue jumping from one place to the other searching for the holy grail. As Chelsea will be winning today, will you resume playing them again?
I know football is something that is not predictable and can likely go on the opposite, like, when you don't expect you see a different results from them but at the time wouldn't be expecting something much then you will also a different version of them just as what Chelsea did to West Ham today. They have been poorly performing of few of their matches which I happened to give them winning but it was on the opposite and regretted haven give them such priorities, but whatever I don't care because I know how the terms of football game works and it happens when we least expected it.
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I think it's safe to say that most of today's games would have easily been predicted with a few exceptions like the Manchester United boredraw against Crystal Palace a game we all knew was going to be tough...

On the bright side, some teams impressed...the likes of Chelsea and Jackson leading the attack, some convincing performance...and Liverpool back to winning ways I think punters had a great day.

Looking forward to the Manchester City- Arsenal game ..

Actually you are right but I'm sure United ruined a lot of betting tickets today and I still cannot understand how Ten Hag is still their coach after failing so many times in the last couple of years.

Chelsea really impressed today and it was a well deserved victory and very important 3 points for them. Same goes for Aston Villla who had the power to comeback from 1-0 against Wolves and win the game with 3-1 + this game was also a great game to bet if you had money to spare.  Grin
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I think it would be more tougher for Arsenal because they're playing without Odegaard, I'm not trying to say that they can't win games without Odegaard but he's the power house in the Midfield and very important for Arsenal to perform better in that position. If you notice, when Arsenal tend to play without Odegaard, their performance declines compared to when he's playing, well I don't doubt that both teams are strong but Manchester City is the best team when it comes to winning that game, their key players would all the available, giving them a boost to defeat Arsenal. Well no matter the result of the game, I'm very sure Arsenal would allow Manchester City to win without giving a fight, Arteta has worked with Pep and understand his game infact he learn some good tactics from Pep and thats way he's one of the most outstanding managers in the EPL currently so I'm hoping to see something surprising from Arsenal's game, the most interesting thing about the match is that they're both very strong team so it's going to be a tough one even though the majority thinks Manchester City is favorite to win.
Odeegard may not be needed to beat a team like Luton or whatever, but when you are playing City that means you need to have all your players ready and because of that I think they should have all their players with them and having some sort of result that is different and difficult when they have some missing players.

I know that it is going to be a hard situation for the long term but that doesn't mean that we are dealing with something that is going to be an absolute loss for them neither, sure they would be better with Odegaard but without him they are not terrible so it should be normal that they end up losing that way too or could get a win. I think it's going to be a hard fought game and it will be quite fun to watch and see how it will be on the long run.
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Honestly, everyone is expecting the match between Manchester City and Arsenal to be one of the Premier League’s tougher matches based on both teams' current form. Manchester City have been in great form since the beginning of the season; they have not lost any matches, despite Arsenal also performing well. With both teams in such good form, the match cannot be easily predicted. Previously, whenever Arsenal and Manchester City played against each other, many people predicted Manchester City to win.However, based on what happened last season, when Arsenal was able to beat Manchester City at the Emirates and draw against them at City’s home, everyone now believes that anything can happen whenever Arsenal and Manchester City play against each other.

This fixture is a game that so many are looking forward to. I remembered the first fixture between both sides that was played at the Emirate stadium, I remember the commentator saying that it was the most watched game in the league. I don't know about tomorrow, but maybe it can also break the records, because lots of people are anticipating to see this two sides compete. Judging from their last encounter at the etihad, I didn't enjoy it much because the game was boring. City were all over arsenal, but arsenal defended well. If this same thing happens tomorrow, then we might just end up watching an entire 90mins of a boring game. It's unlike before, when city used to score so many goals against arsenal. Things has changed, so let's see what both sides has to offer.

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In this kind of match, anything can happen, but what we mostly expect is a draw. However, it is very possible for either team to win the match. Despite the match being hard to predict, if I should go for my favorite team, I would choose Manchester City. If Manchester City can't win the game, I expect them to draw because it is their home game. I have some confidence that City will put in extra effort and try to maintain the record that Arsenal has been unable to break for the past few seasons. It has been a while since Arsenal won against Manchester City at the Etihad Stadium.  

I will be very surprise to see arsenal playing constant attack against city tomorrow. The absence of Odegaard is something that I think will be a missing piece in the game, so we might see a side making continuous attack while the other defending, which will likely end in a draw just like we witnessed at the etihad the last time. But I might be wrong, as history sometimes doesn't correlate with the presence. Let's just see how it goes. Interestingly, I am actually hoping that one of the two teams should take all 3 points, but I just have to speak on a neutral ground because I know how good both sides are.
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I know Manchester United keeps losing and as long as Ten Haag will be with them I feel really and I mean really really sorry for their supporters, how come the management does not see the level of damage this guy is doing to the team and what is worse they don't say anything about his arrogant behavior which is shown everywhere. Another bad season so far for Manchester United and their supporters are fated to see the same things happening over and over to their beloved team, they should be in protest to sack this guy as since his arrival Manchester United is going always the same route which is from bad to worse, come on I remember Eurotrip 2004 movie with the fans of the greatest team in the world Manchester United, how can they be reduced to this disastrous team they are now ? What the heck is going on with their management.
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I think it's safe to say that most of today's games would have easily been predicted with a few exceptions like the Manchester United boredraw against Crystal Palace a game we all knew was going to be tough...

On the bright side, some teams impressed...the likes of Chelsea and Jackson leading the attack, some convincing performance...and Liverpool back to winning ways I think punters had a great day.
Yes - Liverpool were impressive, two wins in a row is a pleasing result. Even though Bournemouth are not a strong team - they managed to pose a real threat to Liverpool's defense. Thankfully - Liverpool did not concede in this match even though Bournemouth had 19 shots with 6 of them on target.

I would have expected more goals in that game - but three was enough to secure the three points. Next up is West Ham in the EFL Cup - I hope the winning streak still continues.

Looking forward to the Manchester City- Arsenal game ..
Seriously - it's a big game this week. I don't expect either of them to win - but Manchester City have a very good chance of winning, which is certainly possible because they're playing at home.
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Well said my man. But then, did you see how they did against Ac Milan? If you did, you'd be convinced that they'll comfortably win this game today against Bournemouth.
Bournemouth are also hell stiffneck lol, could it be because they was at home against Chelsea last weekend? Well, in little time, we'll see how they respond to the game against Liverpool.
If ( Liverpool ) can deal with a big side like Ac Milan away from home, handling Bournemouth might not come easy but I'm sure they've got this game. 3 points to the reds is my prediction likewise. Arne Slot has kicked off nicely as the new manager of Liverpool.

I saw that Milan game yeah. It was a spectacular work by Liverpool which was also one of the reasons why I believed in Liverpool today. They handled -2.5 handicap also very well by a 3-0 win.  Smiley  They scored all of the goals in the first half. Therefore I can't say I enjoyed the second half. But I'm happy for seeing Liverpool recover.

Have you seen Nunez's goal? It was a classy one to the far corner.

He is a really interesting guy. He has the talent but he just has consistency issues...
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I thought Crystal Palace would put pressure on Man United because they are playing as hosts, but the opposite happened, where Man United dominated the course of the match, and they forced Crystal Palace to play completely defensive football. The deadlock has not yet broken, but if the conditions continue like this, it seems like it's only a matter of time until Man United finds the net.

Rasmus Hojlund was seen on the bench in this match and it looks like he will get a chance to play in the second half, as well as Manuel Ugarte.

I also didn't appreciate as much the efforts of the Crystal Palace club in today's match because as the hosts, they could have done more than the performed today.. Also, looking at the last game they played last season, they the Palace side was more formidable and was able to beat the Manchester United side with 4 goals to none. Although it is also good to note that Erik Ten Hag has improved a bit in his performance this season.

I didn't expect much from the Manchester United club even though I can say that they have quite improved to at least draw in this game as the last two encounters they had with the Crystal Palace team was a lose for them.
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Manchester United pathern of play in this first half was really entertaining, Manchester United lack a good goal scorer in the first half as some many chances where been miss out. I noticed Manchester United play was around Alejandro Garnacho though crystal palace goalkeeper did some good save in the first half definitely I see Manchester United winning this game due to there first half performance by the time Marcus Rashford and Rasmus Hojlund will come in in the second half I believe Manchester United will be able to find the net.
Manchester United played well in the match, but they couldn’t secure a goal, which is really a bad one. They dominated the match in both the first half and second half of the match, but everything ended in a draw. When the first half of the match ended, most people expected Manchester United to score in the second half of the match, but Crystal Palace was able to hold Manchester United down, and they both shared the points, which is not really good for Manchester United, they are currently in 11th position on the table. After Manchester United fans are thinking they are getting back to form, and they were saying Crystal Palace will be a bonus to them, but they couldn’t defeat them. 
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Crystal Palace players improved in the second half. they got some chances with counterattacks and managed to create good chances. United did dominate, but Crystal Palace's game was quite calm in facing United's attacks. The final score was 0-0, no change. Both teams had to be satisfied to share points. and this result also adds to United's poor h2h record with Crystal Palace. because in the previous 2 meetings, United did not get a win and now they are playing a goalless draw.
Yes, I watched the match till the end, but both teams were basically unlucky in this match in terms of taking advantage of their goal chances. Bad for Manchester United who should have won this match, but lucky for Crystal Palace because 1 point is also satisfying.

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They could have make impact in the game if they were brought in early maybe the same time with Rashford, but this late impact wasn’t enough for the team to get the wining goal and Crystal Palace get the draw they wanted.
Ten Hag need to have a perfect first eleven, switching players every match will not help him.
Maybe not, I can actually say Manchester United looked more lethargic after Rashford, Rasmus Hojlund and Manuel Ugarte came on, so what you said is not entirely true. Manchester United's attack intensity in the second half dropped and at the same time Crystal Palace took over and tried to develop their game. It was proven that they were able to record several dangerous chances, but Onana was really able to save Manchester United from defeat.
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I think it's safe to say that most of today's games would have easily been predicted with a few exceptions like the Manchester United boredraw against Crystal Palace a game we all knew was going to be tough...

On the bright side, some teams impressed...the likes of Chelsea and Jackson leading the attack, some convincing performance...and Liverpool back to winning ways I think punters had a great day.

Looking forward to the Manchester City- Arsenal game ..
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Although the up coming Arsenal match with Manchester City will be a tough for both teams, yeah indeed their match will little tough, because both of the teams are strong and there doing well this this season which everyone will like to claim their experts during the match; but started that arsenal are also try their not only try arsenal is also performing well this season because they don’t want repeat what has been happening for them in previous seasons.


Honestly, everyone is expecting the match between Manchester City and Arsenal to be one of the Premier League’s tougher matches based on both teams' current form. Manchester City have been in great form since the beginning of the season; they have not lost any matches, despite Arsenal also performing well. With both teams in such good form, the match cannot be easily predicted. Previously, whenever Arsenal and Manchester City played against each other, many people predicted Manchester City to win.However, based on what happened last season, when Arsenal was able to beat Manchester City at the Emirates and draw against them at City’s home, everyone now believes that anything can happen whenever Arsenal and Manchester City play against each other.

Having expectations on a draw between Arsenal and the Manchester City I think is wrong prediction, even though both teams are strong that doesn’t guarantee to predict draw against them, I know arsenal will try to make everything possible by dominating their next coming match sure.

In this kind of match, anything can happen, but what we mostly expect is a draw. However, it is very possible for either team to win the match. Despite the match being hard to predict, if I should go for my favorite team, I would choose Manchester City. If Manchester City can't win the game, I expect them to draw because it is their home game. I have some confidence that City will put in extra effort and try to maintain the record that Arsenal has been unable to break for the past few seasons. It has been a while since Arsenal won against Manchester City at the Etihad Stadium.  
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Manchester United really dominated the first half with many goal opportunities, but none of them were scored. The first half ended goalless, while throughout the second half the score was still the same. Crystal Palace started to improve in the second half and they tended to be able to develop their game and try to press, it worked with several opportunities that could not be converted into goals.
Their dominance in the game is still on because they have everything in their control. They have good chances to have scored but couldn’t convert any of them because of how well organized Crystal Palace defenders are. I don’t know why Ten Hag couldn’t rely on Rasmus Hojlund, he could have started the second half with him because he is a good striker that would have change things easily for Manchester United, but they couldn’t score in the match and it has ended in a draw.

Crystal Palace defeated Manchester United both home and away last season, and this season again, they were able to hold their home advantage to get a point from Manchester United. What can we call this Manchester United’s performance now; should I refer it as inconsistent performance? Because they played well in the Europa League, and their last Premier League match against Southampton ended well, but they couldn’t win today. Can they compete for the Premier League title with such performance? I think No.

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Rasmus Hojlund and Manuel Ugarte were introduced to boost the chances of victory, but the scoreline was still goalless at the 85th minute. The game could have ended goalless as Crystal Palace improved in the second half, but Manchester United still had a chance to steal a point if they could really make the most of the remaining time. Marcus Rashford has also come in, but there hasn't been much change.
They could have make impact in the game if they were brought in early maybe the same time with Rashford, but this late impact wasn’t enough for the team to get the wining goal and Crystal Palace get the draw they wanted.
Ten Hag need to have a perfect first eleven, switching players every match will not help him.
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Manchester United really dominated the first half with many goal opportunities, but none of them were scored. The first half ended goalless, while throughout the second half the score was still the same. Crystal Palace started to improve in the second half and they tended to be able to develop their game and try to press, it worked with several opportunities that could not be converted into goals.

Rasmus Hojlund and Manuel Ugarte were introduced to boost the chances of victory, but the scoreline was still goalless at the 85th minute. The game could have ended goalless as Crystal Palace improved in the second half, but Manchester United still had a chance to steal a point if they could really make the most of the remaining time. Marcus Rashford has also come in, but there hasn't been much change.

Crystal Palace players improved in the second half. they got some chances with counterattacks and managed to create good chances. United did dominate, but Crystal Palace's game was quite calm in facing United's attacks. The final score was 0-0, no change. Both teams had to be satisfied to share points. and this result also adds to United's poor h2h record with Crystal Palace. because in the previous 2 meetings, United did not get a win and now they are playing a goalless draw.
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