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It seems it's no longer a rumor anymore. Manchester United has sacked Ten Hag. This is exciting news for Manchester United fans around the world. Whats your take on this? Is it too early, perhaps they would have waited for next year January.

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This this is the news Manchester United fans has been waiting for long to hear and it is has finally came to reality for me the news came late Manchester United would have sack Erik Ten Hag long ago but is not yet late though.
Manchester United has really tried for Erik Ten Hag to retain him as Manchester United manager they gave him time to see if he can turn things around for the team but yet it was still getting worst as they keep on with their poor performance.

I wish Manchester United can get a better couch a team such as Manchester United shouldn't be playing football as if they are unknown team if you can cheek the performance of Chelsea this season you will see that it has improved because they were not keeping couch who is not doing well for long that is why they are big team Manchester United is meant to sack Erik Ten Hag early before now.
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He's the main man for the award and many as expecting Vinicius Jr to be the winner but they seem to forget that both club and country Rodri has been outstanding and he was the one who gave City their first ever champions league and he also showed how good he is in his national team in the Euros where they went unbeaten.
With all these achievement why won't he be the winner? Vinicius Jr still had a long way to go before winning such award and since the time of Messi and Ronaldo many thought it would be Mbappe and Haaland who would be competing for this award but I think these two guys don't have what it takes to win 1 of the Ballon d'Or till they retire.

I think you’re bringing the wrong stats here, Rodri won the Champions league with Manchester city in the 2022/23 season and this award is for 23/24 season where Real Madrid won the Champions league, the premier league that Rodri won last year he wasn’t even included in the team of the season so I don’t get how he tick that box, he played well in euros but didn’t provide any clutch moments. Personally I think he should have won the award last year ahead of Messi and not this year which he wasn’t that too impressive.

I heard he lost the award due to class and fair play, another criteria just added of recent, if that been the case and Vinicius doesn’t deserve it then there is Carvajal who won everything with Madrid and won same euro with Spain and Rodri or his is arrogant too. There is also Lautrao Martinez who guided his country to the Copa America and his club to two domestic titles which to me are enough to get him the award

You don't get my point, me bringing up the 22/23 champions league they won was because of his performance like his goal gave City the title and is because of those performance that he has been bringing to the table when the team needed it the most that I'm trying to point out. Take a good look at all Rodri has done for the Citizens and his national side, I can't compare it to that of Vinicius Jr.
If that be the case and let's say Rodri was out of the picture I'd go for the Madrid right back Carvajal because he's another player that has been in good form since Euros and this very season. As for Vinicius I some how think he can also get a chance at the Ballon d'Or but his temper is something he needs to work on.
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It was rumored early on before the league started that Erik Ten Hag would not be renewed, after much consideration the team finally gave him the opportunity... From this opportunity it turned out badly... From these many defeats Manchester United must pay large compensation so there is no other way but to make a decision and must pay according to the contract.

So currently Manchester United is eyeing the Sporting CP coach... Rúben Amorim - contact is ongoing if negotiations are not tough then it could be that Manchester United will get the coach as soon as possible.

 Rúben Amorim is not too much worse than Erik Ten Hag.

I don't think money is a big deal here. It is at least not that big of a deal that Manchester United would have decided to keep ten Hag for any longer only because they thought otherwise they would owe him a lot of money. It costs the club far more in cash and club value if they keep losing and playing like that. It has a severe impact on Manchester United as a global brand and their recognition around the world. That is why I am sure they would have immediately acted if they could, but I think they were not sure whom to sign to replace ten Hag because there are hardly any available experienced coaches out there.
Of course for Man Utd to sack Erik ten Hag definitely the club has to pay a huge compensation well to me it's a sacrifice that the board had to offer because Man Utd had  never been as bad as they were now 14th position on table despite all the huge amount of money spent last summer, in the mean time Rúben Amorim whose contract negotiation is on going the question now is "can he manage a big team like Man Utd?" Because if he is eventually signed by Man Utd there is going to be a lot of pressure on him to deliver quickly and put Man Utd back in a good shape.
Switching a coach is undoubtedly a decision that has to be made with a lot of care, even more so when it comes to Erik ten Hag who is still officially a Manchester United employee. Yes compensation costs are a threat but for a club as large as United the most key factors are solidity and on pitch efficiency. At the present time during the course of a season, a team is on the verge of playoffs and the team management obviously has to look for ways to make drastic changes in order to experience advancement. It the board of directors wishes to start a new era, this will be an investment for returning the club to the glory days.

What we know about Ruben Amorim is that his previous achievements do indicate their potential innbringing out the best of a promising trainer. While it will be daunting to join a big team such as United the entire support by the club and the players, then he stands a bright chance at positively influencing the team. Of course, there are expectations going to be placed on him, but again, hiring a youthful coach with new ideas and new styles that had positive results at his former team could bring new dimension into United. Only if Amorim can work on building a good team in the span of the mentioned span can one expect that this change marks the beginning of United challenging for titles again.
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Well I think with the way the club was headed any other coach would have been a better choice I mean Manchester united were literally turning to something else with the club and all the player finding it hard to even play the ball MD yet the management still had faith in him cause that's the only reason for them to have left him this long because financial issue wasn't the problem, I believe he gained more confidence right after he won that FA cup last season.
Actually winning the FA Cup last season by Manchester United is still not enough for a team as big as Manchester United because the Premier League trophy itself is much better than the FA Cup even though they are both won in English competitions. And if Ten Hag does not really realize that as his motivation to keep fighting, I think Manchester United could end this season near the relegation zone and that would be very embarrassing for him and for all Manchester United fans in particular.
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He's the main man for the award and many as expecting Vinicius Jr to be the winner but they seem to forget that both club and country Rodri has been outstanding and he was the one who gave City their first ever champions league and he also showed how good he is in his national team in the Euros where they went unbeaten.
With all these achievement why won't he be the winner? Vinicius Jr still had a long way to go before winning such award and since the time of Messi and Ronaldo many thought it would be Mbappe and Haaland who would be competing for this award but I think these two guys don't have what it takes to win 1 of the Ballon d'Or till they retire.

I think you’re bringing the wrong stats here, Rodri won the Champions league with Manchester city in the 2022/23 season and this award is for 23/24 season where Real Madrid won the Champions league, the premier league that Rodri won last year he wasn’t even included in the team of the season so I don’t get how he tick that box, he played well in euros but didn’t provide any clutch moments. Personally I think he should have won the award last year ahead of Messi and not this year which he wasn’t that too impressive.

I heard he lost the award due to class and fair play, another criteria just added of recent, if that been the case and Vinicius doesn’t deserve it then there is Carvajal who won everything with Madrid and won same euro with Spain and Rodri or his is arrogant too. There is also Lautrao Martinez who guided his country to the Copa America and his club to two domestic titles which to me are enough to get him the award
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28 years old Spain and Manchester City midfielder Rodri won his first Ballon d'Or award as he beats Vinícius Jr and Jude Bellingham two Real Madrid stars with his amazing performance for Spain who won fourth European title and Manchester City who is leading the Premier League for last few years.

He is third Spaniard who won this title and first defensive midfielder who achieve this biggest award on planet for soccer players

He's the main man for the award and many as expecting Vinicius Jr to be the winner but they seem to forget that both club and country Rodri has been outstanding and he was the one who gave City their first ever champions league and he also showed how good he is in his national team in the Euros where they went unbeaten.
With all these achievement why won't he be the winner? Vinicius Jr still had a long way to go before winning such award and since the time of Messi and Ronaldo many thought it would be Mbappe and Haaland who would be competing for this award but I think these two guys don't have what it takes to win 1 of the Ballon d'Or till they retire.
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Arsenal got a 2-2 result and they couldn't beat Liverpool and that made Manchester City and Guardiola happy. Because after this draw, both Liverpool and Arsenal lost points to give Manchester City a good chance to take their place back in the first place of the Premier League.

The match went the way Manchester City wanted it. Arsenal and Liverpool ended in a draw, and Manchester City won their match, which makes them in the first position; they have been able to take over the first position from Liverpool. I was expecting Liverpool to win the match so that they would be able to maintain the first position, but they couldn't, Manchester City took over the first position from them, and they are currently in second position.
 
The season is still early, and they can still take over the first position from Manchester City. No one is sure of who will be winning the league yet because both Manchester City, Arsenal, and Liverpool are currently performing well, and they are fighting for the league title.
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28 years old Spain and Manchester City midfielder Rodri won his first Ballon d'Or award as he beats Vinícius Jr and Jude Bellingham two Real Madrid stars with his amazing performance for Spain who won fourth European title and Manchester City who is leading the Premier League for last few years.

He is third Spaniard who won this title and first defensive midfielder who achieve this biggest award on planet for soccer players

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I was not sure that arsenal will be able to play Liverpool even draw, but look at what happened, arsenal was limited because of the less capacity we have and we were still able to play them draw is just another way to show that playing arsenal is not child's play a lot of things have happened and I was not really sure if saka was going to play and just look at the way is presence changed the game their was a time I was arguing with someone about last season that foden is better than saka and the kind of reasons the person gave was a convincing one and their is nothing I could say that foden have the resources that is KDB, but saka don't even have a good support and thay is why because if you watch saka ball last two season saka was a heat.
Seriously the yesterday match between Arsenal and the Liverpool was very a surprise match, because nobody expected that Arsenal can able to standard well to build a powerful performance, due to the some of their players that are injured included Saliba that collected red card in their last match: which make their performance scattered in there last match.

The Arsenal capacity was actually less, but we that make an wonderful performance and lead them to a draw the: although was saying that the game will be a difficult match for the Arsenal that they will not have even one single chance of winning the game, and the when the match kickoff Saka is the first player that breaks the Liverpool net with hot shots with in 10 minutes of time.
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Ten Hag sack is the best news I heard this month. At the moment, Manchester United is a dead man's club. The coach has reduced them to almost nothing. The height of it all currently is West Ham defeating them in their weakness. I was o the opinion that he does not continue this season because he's flop continuously, Van Nisteroy is likely the interim coach. Let's fold our hands and watch him display his tactics . I believe things will will be better.
Erik Ten Hag have accomplished his obligations, winning titles and this becomes an important part for him and his reputation.
He commits fulltime for his managerial role, having less concern about his job did save him the stress. Erik Ten Hag sack today comes as a shock to everyone? I was not suprise when Fabrizio Romano posted the thread on his X account, it's good news for Manchester fans as they seem happy, wearing on smiling faces because they think of the necessary work ought to be put in place. He's out and Manchester United board will have to settle for another counting options. Julian Naggelsman appears first on the list when we're talking about managers that will take over at Old Trafford.
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It was rumored early on before the league started that Erik Ten Hag would not be renewed, after much consideration the team finally gave him the opportunity... From this opportunity it turned out badly... From these many defeats Manchester United must pay large compensation so there is no other way but to make a decision and must pay according to the contract.

So currently Manchester United is eyeing the Sporting CP coach... Rúben Amorim - contact is ongoing if negotiations are not tough then it could be that Manchester United will get the coach as soon as possible.

 Rúben Amorim is not too much worse than Erik Ten Hag.

I don't think money is a big deal here. It is at least not that big of a deal that Manchester United would have decided to keep ten Hag for any longer only because they thought otherwise they would owe him a lot of money. It costs the club far more in cash and club value if they keep losing and playing like that. It has a severe impact on Manchester United as a global brand and their recognition around the world. That is why I am sure they would have immediately acted if they could, but I think they were not sure whom to sign to replace ten Hag because there are hardly any available experienced coaches out there.

Well I think with the way the club was headed any other coach would have been a better choice I mean Manchester united were literally turning to something else with the club and all the player finding it hard to even play the ball MD yet the management still had faith in him cause that's the only reason for them to have left him this long because financial issue wasn't the problem, I believe he gained more confidence right after he won that FA cup last season.
Ten Hag sack is the best news I heard this month. At the moment, Manchester United is a dead man's club. The coach has reduced them to almost nothing. The height of it all currently is West Ham defeating them in their weakness. I was o the opinion that he does not continue this season because he's flop continuously, Van Nisteroy is likely the interim coach. Let's fold our hands and watch him display his tactics . I believe things will will be better.
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It was rumored early on before the league started that Erik Ten Hag would not be renewed, after much consideration the team finally gave him the opportunity... From this opportunity it turned out badly... From these many defeats Manchester United must pay large compensation so there is no other way but to make a decision and must pay according to the contract.

So currently Manchester United is eyeing the Sporting CP coach... Rúben Amorim - contact is ongoing if negotiations are not tough then it could be that Manchester United will get the coach as soon as possible.

 Rúben Amorim is not too much worse than Erik Ten Hag.
I don't think money is a big deal here. It is at least not that big of a deal that Manchester United would have decided to keep ten Hag for any longer only because they thought otherwise they would owe him a lot of money. It costs the club far more in cash and club value if they keep losing and playing like that. It has a severe impact on Manchester United as a global brand and their recognition around the world. That is why I am sure they would have immediately acted if they could, but I think they were not sure whom to sign to replace ten Hag because there are hardly any available experienced coaches out there.
Yes, that's the problem, even though it's not big money for the club, the club still has a deficit because of the purchases made during Erik Ten Hag's tenure but nothing stands out, this can also be said to be a loss invested by the club.
Moreover, if the performance continues to be poor, the club's income will deteriorate... They will globally decline and we know fans are many around the world but they will be fed up with their team continuing to lose.

 Ruben Amorim is getting stronger as a candidate... OK he doesn't have Premier League experience but at least he can bring something good to Manchester United.

Latest news hope the Red Devils can make an announcement before the weekend - https://x.com/DeadlineDayLive/status/1850997487110127617
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Apart from anything else, the match was really interesting despite the draw. A draw in this case is a fair result, even though the teams lost points, they played a great match and both teams stayed in the championship race. The fact that Liverpool are two points behind Manchester City I think is not an indicator, because not even a third of the matches of the season have passed

The match between Arsenal and Liverpool was interesting though but i expected Arsenal to win Liverpool because they had the opportunity of an early lead but due to how porous their defense was made them concede those goals and for me instead of the match ending in a draw Liverpool should have won and still maintain topping the league table because now that Manchester city has gotten the privilege to top the table it will be hard for either Arsenal or Liverpool to overtake City except when the season must have gone far and Manchester city lose form. Well, it's just a point difference between Liverpool and Manchester city so if Liverpool becomes more consistent they can still get back to top the league but for Arsenal, i doubt if Arsenal can show energy like Liverpool and Manchester city since their form and performance isn't convincing yet. Since the season is still at the early stages, changes can still happen anytime.
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United made a big mistake giving him a new contract at the end of the season. They saw how disastrous he was and they still decided to give him a new contract. They wanted to trust him and give him more time, but time was not what Ten Hag needed. He had no clear idea on what he wanted from Manchester United. He had lost the dressing room and there was no improvement from the team both individually or as a team. You don't give a manager like that more time. For a manager to deserve time, that manager has to have shown signs of improvement.
The trust was because he won trophy for them at the end of the season, so despite his poor performance, they think he can amend and make it big if they sign more players for him; they did sign the players for him as he wanted and yet he couldn’t use what the team have for a better result.

Even after the management meeting some weeks ago that made them decide leaving him as the coach, he couldn’t be consistent, he lost some games that he is supposed to win, and the set back in the Europa League was the big mess because Manchester United should have been leading the Europa League table.

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It would be difficult for United to get a better manager now because the season is already on and most of the good coaches have jobs. That's why it would have been best to fire Ten Hag at the end of last season.

Another thing is, the environment at United is too toxic for both the managers and players. The club needs to improve and make sure the build an atmosphere that makes players and managers comfortable and excel.
It will be hard to get a better manager now because almost all good managers have job at hand, so getting a better manager will be hard for them, they have to manage to end this season with the caretaker manager before they confirm the perfect replacement for Ten Hag.
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I don't think money is a big deal here. It is at least not that big of a deal that Manchester United would have decided to keep ten Hag for any longer only because they thought otherwise they would owe him a lot of money. It costs the club far more in cash and club value if they keep losing and playing like that. It has a severe impact on Manchester United as a global brand and their recognition around the world. That is why I am sure they would have immediately acted if they could, but I think they were not sure whom to sign to replace ten Hag because there are hardly any available experienced coaches out there.

United made a big mistake giving him a new contract at the end of the season. They saw how disastrous he was and they still decided to give him a new contract. They wanted to trust him and give him more time, but time was not what Ten Hag needed. He had no clear idea on what he wanted from Manchester United. He had lost the dressing room and there was no improvement from the team both individually or as a team. You don't give a manager like that more time. For a manager to deserve time, that manager has to have shown signs of improvement.

It would be difficult for United to get a better manager now because the season is already on and most of the good coaches have jobs. That's why it would have been best to fire Ten Hag at the end of last season.

Another thing is, the environment at United is too toxic for both the managers and players. The club needs to improve and make sure the build an atmosphere that makes players and managers comfortable and excel.
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It was rumored early on before the league started that Erik Ten Hag would not be renewed, after much consideration the team finally gave him the opportunity... From this opportunity it turned out badly... From these many defeats Manchester United must pay large compensation so there is no other way but to make a decision and must pay according to the contract.

So currently Manchester United is eyeing the Sporting CP coach... Rúben Amorim - contact is ongoing if negotiations are not tough then it could be that Manchester United will get the coach as soon as possible.

 Rúben Amorim is not too much worse than Erik Ten Hag.

I don't think money is a big deal here. It is at least not that big of a deal that Manchester United would have decided to keep ten Hag for any longer only because they thought otherwise they would owe him a lot of money. It costs the club far more in cash and club value if they keep losing and playing like that. It has a severe impact on Manchester United as a global brand and their recognition around the world. That is why I am sure they would have immediately acted if they could, but I think they were not sure whom to sign to replace ten Hag because there are hardly any available experienced coaches out there.
Of course for Man Utd to sack Erik ten Hag definitely the club has to pay a huge compensation well to me it's a sacrifice that the board had to offer because Man Utd had  never been as bad as they were now 14th position on table despite all the huge amount of money spent last summer, in the mean time Rúben Amorim whose contract negotiation is on going the question now is "can he manage a big team like Man Utd?" Because if he is eventually signed by Man Utd there is going to be a lot of pressure on him to deliver quickly and put Man Utd back in a good shape.
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It was rumored early on before the league started that Erik Ten Hag would not be renewed, after much consideration the team finally gave him the opportunity... From this opportunity it turned out badly... From these many defeats Manchester United must pay large compensation so there is no other way but to make a decision and must pay according to the contract.

So currently Manchester United is eyeing the Sporting CP coach... Rúben Amorim - contact is ongoing if negotiations are not tough then it could be that Manchester United will get the coach as soon as possible.

 Rúben Amorim is not too much worse than Erik Ten Hag.

I don't think money is a big deal here. It is at least not that big of a deal that Manchester United would have decided to keep ten Hag for any longer only because they thought otherwise they would owe him a lot of money. It costs the club far more in cash and club value if they keep losing and playing like that. It has a severe impact on Manchester United as a global brand and their recognition around the world. That is why I am sure they would have immediately acted if they could, but I think they were not sure whom to sign to replace ten Hag because there are hardly any available experienced coaches out there.

Well I think with the way the club was headed any other coach would have been a better choice I mean Manchester united were literally turning to something else with the club and all the player finding it hard to even play the ball MD yet the management still had faith in him cause that's the only reason for them to have left him this long because financial issue wasn't the problem, I believe he gained more confidence right after he won that FA cup last season.
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Ten Hag being sacked is good news, but let this sack be extended to Manchester United players and their sporting director because Ten Hag should not be the only one to be sacked and held responsible for the downfall of Manchester United, the players and sporting director of Manchester United all follow suit.

I am counting on the next transfer window in January for Manchester United management to do the needful to reshuffle the team players to build the team from scratch. Manchester United can't still have the same players in the team and expect the new coach to do a miracle with the poor state of the club that the whole players have all lost form

You definitely knows ball, this is what many people failed to understand like they carry this sacking of a thing as a personal beef and it'd definitely the Ronaldo fans, they are happy because Erik frustrated Ronaldo for not allowing him do what he likes before he changed his mind to leave the club. So many players are the reason why they are not doing well even though he was part of the reason why they are performing like division 0 teams that don't know where they are going next.

However, I think that's can't be decide yet until the new coach arrives and that can't happen until the end of the season so.as to know who has tried their best at their worst time because this is their worst time if you ask me, there is no.way they are going to do well like this even if they get the new coach. What I'm even thinking will happen is they will manage some of the assistant until they can figure out better person. If there's another person right now, they wouldn't delay it.
Yes why he said is correct but before the January transfer window will open let us see how the new coach and the players will perform. We have experienced this in our National Team and when the coach was changed, the new coach with the old players need a good job by winning many games. It is good to change players but let them perform first so that we will know if it was from the coach or the players. Nobody failed to understand that we know that but all can't be sacked at the same time.

We all also know that in the next transfer window in the month in January, many Manchester United players will go and new players will come in but their performance in the next games will tell it all.
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It was rumored early on before the league started that Erik Ten Hag would not be renewed, after much consideration the team finally gave him the opportunity... From this opportunity it turned out badly... From these many defeats Manchester United must pay large compensation so there is no other way but to make a decision and must pay according to the contract.

So currently Manchester United is eyeing the Sporting CP coach... Rúben Amorim - contact is ongoing if negotiations are not tough then it could be that Manchester United will get the coach as soon as possible.

 Rúben Amorim is not too much worse than Erik Ten Hag.

I don't think money is a big deal here. It is at least not that big of a deal that Manchester United would have decided to keep ten Hag for any longer only because they thought otherwise they would owe him a lot of money. It costs the club far more in cash and club value if they keep losing and playing like that. It has a severe impact on Manchester United as a global brand and their recognition around the world. That is why I am sure they would have immediately acted if they could, but I think they were not sure whom to sign to replace ten Hag because there are hardly any available experienced coaches out there.
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Ten Hag being sacked is good news, but let this sack be extended to Manchester United players and their sporting director because Ten Hag should not be the only one to be sacked and held responsible for the downfall of Manchester United, the players and sporting director of Manchester United all follow suit.

I am counting on the next transfer window in January for Manchester United management to do the needful to reshuffle the team players to build the team from scratch. Manchester United can't still have the same players in the team and expect the new coach to do a miracle with the poor state of the club that the whole players have all lost form

You definitely knows ball, this is what many people failed to understand like they carry this sacking of a thing as a personal beef and it'd definitely the Ronaldo fans, they are happy because Erik frustrated Ronaldo for not allowing him do what he likes before he changed his mind to leave the club. So many players are the reason why they are not doing well even though he was part of the reason why they are performing like division 0 teams that don't know where they are going next.

However, I think that's can't be decide yet until the new coach arrives and that can't happen until the end of the season so.as to know who has tried their best at their worst time because this is their worst time if you ask me, there is no.way they are going to do well like this even if they get the new coach. What I'm even thinking will happen is they will manage some of the assistant until they can figure out better person. If there's another person right now, they wouldn't delay it.
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