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Quote from: CryptopreneurBrainboss on July 10, 2019, 11:22:13 AM

Remember when almost everyone said sarri was a loser, that he can't succeed with Chelsea but he did succeed

I do not think last season can be said to be a successful one for Chelsea, based on their standard, the board expected more from him, that's the more reason why even before the close of the season, there was talks of removing him already.

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Chelsea will do well without hazard. Players come and go but the club stays forever.

I don't think this is true, at least not in this coming season, as Chelsea are currently on a transfer ban, losing a player like hazard, without being able to replace him, is a negative one for Chelsea and they're definitely going to feel the impact of his loss this coming season.

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Quote from: Sutters Mill on July 10, 2019, 06:20:20 AM

It's either going to go really well for Lampard or absolutely disastrous

Teams understand themselves better and work together to achieve a common goal especially when everyone isn't depending on a particular individual to save the day. Chelsea will do well without hazard. Players come and go but the club stays forever.

You are totally to the point.
And additionally, right now no one believes at Chelsea. This would make the players to train harder and push themselves to reach max performance, in order to prove everyone wrong. I think that Chelsea is going to have an amazing performance this year, similar to the one with Di Matteo winning the Champions League.

when many people underestimate Chelsea under Di Matteo, Chelsea could win the Champions league. maybe next year when many people underestimate Lampard, Chelsea will be brilliant next season

Lampard knows the ins and outs of Chelsea, it's home for him, I'm sure Chelsea can be better by Lampard in the headcoach

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Quote from: Sutters Mill on July 10, 2019, 06:20:20 AM

It's either going to go really well for Lampard or absolutely disastrous

Teams understand themselves better and work together to achieve a common goal especially when everyone isn't depending on a particular individual to save the day. Chelsea will do well without hazard. Players come and go but the club stays forever.

You are totally to the point.
And additionally, right now no one believes at Chelsea. This would make the players to train harder and push themselves to reach max performance, in order to prove everyone wrong. I think that Chelsea is going to have an amazing performance this year, similar to the one with Di Matteo winning the Champions League.

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Quote from: Sutters Mill on July 10, 2019, 06:20:20 AM

It's either going to go really well for Lampard or absolutely disastrous

Remember when almost everyone said sarri was a loser, that he can't succeed with Chelsea but he did succeed and almost ended the season with two trophies. I believe Lampard will surprise everyone too, he's a very experienced player who just have to channel that experience into coaching and he'll do just great. He might not end the season with a trophy but it'll be a great season for both him and Chelsea.

Teams understand themselves better and work together to achieve a common goal especially when everyone isn't depending on a particular individual to save the day. Chelsea will do well without hazard. Players come and go but the club stays forever.

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^ But the thing is a decent season could be 'absolutely disastrous' for Chelski. Grin

Just look what happened to Sarri...

Costa to Wolves would be awesome imo. I hope it happens.

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It's either going to go really well for Lampard or absolutely disastrous. Of course he's going to be hampered by not being able to buy any players but he should try sell a lot of players that he's not going to utilize on the grounds that he can use that money to buy the players he wants when the fair play restrictions expire. He's got a decent squad as it stands but losing hazard is a huge blow and could really cost Chelsea especially as they can't replace him. There's rumors that Bakayoko may be on the move to either United or Arsenal as well. Cahill is free to leave on a free transfer also.

Did anyone hear that Diego Costa might be going to Wolves? I'll believe that when I see it but that could give Wolves a huge boost. They played excellently last year with finishing seventh and maybe this could help them get into the Europa league or maybe even higher. It's going to be very tough for them to break into that top four though with all the competition.

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Frank Lampard is announced as the new Chelsea's Manager.
I think he will do great. He is already respected in the whole league and especially from Chelsea fans, so they are reluctant to see results. Also, everyone knows that he will do his best with the current players as Chelsea suffers from financial fairplay restrictions.

I think this move is too early for Lampard. Chelsea don’t tend to give their managers time in the job, it would be very detrimental to Lampard's career if he gets sacked. I suppose because he’s a Chelsea legend Abramovich might be more lenient if things don’t go well but I think this move is a couple of seasons too early for him.

Chelsea is a top team that would prefer an experience manager better than Lampard. I also hope his antecedent with previous managers, working with other players to send managers away, wont hunt him. Now he wants his English counterparts as his coaching crew, Ashley cole etc, this is not derby county, it wont work like that. My only consolation and motivation is the era of Guardiola at Barcelona, He also got no experience then but made good run as a coach. Of all the top 6 managers Lampard is the least experience and he got the job because of Chelsea transfer ban

Yes I agree that a top class team like Chelsea needs a more experienced manager.
Still, no one would ever accept an offer from Chelsea when they know that they are not willing to sign any players for many transfer windows. Lampard came to help the club and fans should respect him.

That's what Chelsea fans have to do right now. Respecting every lampard decision and supporting him to remain passionate about training Chelsea for this season. Actually the lampard work in Chelsea is very difficult because their top players have moved to Real Madrid. That means Lampard must really take advantage of the players that exist today.

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Frank Lampard is announced as the new Chelsea's Manager.
I think he will do great. He is already respected in the whole league and especially from Chelsea fans, so they are reluctant to see results. Also, everyone knows that he will do his best with the current players as Chelsea suffers from financial fairplay restrictions.

I think this move is too early for Lampard. Chelsea don’t tend to give their managers time in the job, it would be very detrimental to Lampard's career if he gets sacked. I suppose because he’s a Chelsea legend Abramovich might be more lenient if things don’t go well but I think this move is a couple of seasons too early for him.

Chelsea is a top team that would prefer an experience manager better than Lampard. I also hope his antecedent with previous managers, working with other players to send managers away, wont hunt him. Now he wants his English counterparts as his coaching crew, Ashley cole etc, this is not derby county, it wont work like that. My only consolation and motivation is the era of Guardiola at Barcelona, He also got no experience then but made good run as a coach. Of all the top 6 managers Lampard is the least experience and he got the job because of Chelsea transfer ban

Yes I agree that a top class team like Chelsea needs a more experienced manager.
Still, no one would ever accept an offer from Chelsea when they know that they are not willing to sign any players for many transfer windows. Lampard came to help the club and fans should respect him.

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Quote from: DeathAngel on July 09, 2019, 07:18:00 AM

Sarri left because the fans treated him like shit, the players tried to control the dressing room & he was shown no respect by the whole club. He got them CL football & won a trophy, he should be respected.

I never heard him say anything like this even after he left. Italians are always Italians, they don't like it abroad. He got his first trophy in Chelsea after 29 years and he made top 4, that's success. He was just stubborn with Jorghino's position and was not ready to explain his decision but later justify it towards the end of the season. Chelsea has sacked coaches with similar cases in the past.

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Quote from: DeathAngel on July 09, 2019, 07:18:00 AM

Sarri left because the fans treated him like shit, the players tried to control the dressing room & he was shown no respect by the whole club. He got them CL football & won a trophy, he should be respected.

true, i still remember when Kepa didn't want to be replaced with another player. most chealsea player not respect him as a manager, but with this situation sarri can winning UEL. i know he will be much better if leave from chealse and now he have a great team with juventus

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Sarri left because the fans treated him like shit, the players tried to control the dressing room & he was shown no respect by the whole club. He got them CL football & won a trophy, he should be respected.

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Quote from: Naida_BR on July 08, 2019, 10:57:43 AM

Quote from: tokeweed on July 08, 2019, 09:22:23 AM

What Chelski needs to do is develop a new culture for the club. Quit sacking the manager whenever things are 'bad' and hire a sporting director ffs.

I say 'bad' cos it wasn't really all that bad with Sarri.

Sarri didn't get sacked because of bad performance.
He had respect problems with the players and actually they didn't listen to him at all. After the incident with Kepa in the game against Man City he decided to leave the club and try to find his luck somewhere else. In the end it was his decision, not the board's.

Sarri left Chelsea indeed not because of poor performance. Because sarri gave the Europa League championship trophy to Chelsea. That means a good shot is a Chelsea coach. I think the right reason is Sarri feels that Juventus provides a better opportunity. And this is the right step taken by sarri.

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Quote from: Naida_BR on July 04, 2019, 01:15:54 PM

Frank Lampard is announced as the new Chelsea's Manager.
I think he will do great. He is already respected in the whole league and especially from Chelsea fans, so they are reluctant to see results. Also, everyone knows that he will do his best with the current players as Chelsea suffers from financial fairplay restrictions.

I think this move is too early for Lampard. Chelsea don’t tend to give their managers time in the job, it would be very detrimental to Lampard's career if he gets sacked. I suppose because he’s a Chelsea legend Abramovich might be more lenient if things don’t go well but I think this move is a couple of seasons too early for him.

Chelsea is a top team that would prefer an experience manager better than Lampard. I also hope his antecedent with previous managers, working with other players to send managers away, wont hunt him. Now he wants his English counterparts as his coaching crew, Ashley cole etc, this is not derby county, it wont work like that. My only consolation and motivation is the era of Guardiola at Barcelona, He also got no experience then but made good run as a coach. Of all the top 6 managers Lampard is the least experience and he got the job because of Chelsea transfer ban

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Quote from: Trofo on July 07, 2019, 04:44:33 AM

Quote from: tokeweed on July 05, 2019, 08:49:38 AM

^ ^ I fear Lampard's status as an 'immortal' at the club will be affected in a really bad way if(when?) he fails. It would've been best for him to avoid being a Chelsea manager at all. He could wait for Abramovich to sell the club at least...

I am not so sure. He is a club legend and I believe supporters will be considerate enough to let him work with full support even if the results are not the best. Anybody taking Chelsea after selling of Hazard would have a tough time. He was the only one propelling Chelsea to victory on so many occasions I even lost count.

Of course the above can only be true if the players show a will to play at 100% even though they don't have a class to battle for the very top positions in the league.

Just remember when Lampard plays for Manchester City his last season in PL. Chelsea fans were frustrated and there were many ugly words to him. It is a big step for him, but coming in a very hard time for the club.

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Quote from: tokeweed on July 08, 2019, 09:22:23 AM

What Chelski needs to do is develop a new culture for the club. Quit sacking the manager whenever things are 'bad' and hire a sporting director ffs.

I say 'bad' cos it wasn't really all that bad with Sarri.

Sarri didn't get sacked because of bad performance.
He had respect problems with the players and actually they didn't listen to him at all. After the incident with Kepa in the game against Man City he decided to leave the club and try to find his luck somewhere else. In the end it was his decision, not the board's.

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What Chelski needs to do is develop a new culture for the club. Quit sacking the manager whenever things are 'bad' and hire a sporting director ffs.

I say 'bad' cos it wasn't really all that bad with Sarri.

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Frank Lampard is announced as the new Chelsea's Manager.
I think he will do great. He is already respected in the whole league and especially from Chelsea fans, so they are reluctant to see results. Also, everyone knows that he will do his best with the current players as Chelsea suffers from financial fairplay restrictions.

We all think it's great. But we are talking about Chelsea. If they made few lost games in the row, he will be sacked like anyone manager in Chelsea. if it does not get fired at the end of 2019 it will be a surprise. Especially now, without Hazard and no new big players.

That's what will happen someday when becoming a Chelsea coach. Because most of the previous coaches were fired if they suffered poor results. But I'm sure Lampard will start a new record for Chelsea. And will not experience the fate of the previous coach.

great trust from the club's management to make Lampard a Chelsea coach even though he hasn't had too much experience as a coach, hopefully he is able to train big clubs like Chelsea.

If he doesn't do it as a Chelsea coach, of course Lampard will never have experience later. So it's really good if Lampard is now the Chelsea coach. We are just waiting for its performance for the season to be coming. Very much awaited every game.

but usually before training a big club one must have the experience of training a decent new small club to train a big club like Chelsea, in my opinion even though he is a player respected by all Chelsea fans he also has to do something before training Chelsea.

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^ ^ I fear Lampard's status as an 'immortal' at the club will be affected in a really bad way if(when?) he fails. It would've been best for him to avoid being a Chelsea manager at all. He could wait for Abramovich to sell the club at least...

I am not so sure. He is a club legend and I believe supporters will be considerate enough to let him work with full support even if the results are not the best. Anybody taking Chelsea after selling of Hazard would have a tough time. He was the only one propelling Chelsea to victory on so many occasions I even lost count.

Of course the above can only be true if the players show a will to play at 100% even though they don't have a class to battle for the very top positions in the league.

Their main problems are the following:
- Can't buy new players in the market
- the owner of the club is not known for patience
- lost their main and the best player in the last 10 years

If Lampard gets the chance to build his team from scratch this year, without the pressure of great expectations, than he will have chance for success.

That is what the new Coach (lampard) should do to build his Team first. Because it is not possible to only need approximately one season, it can immediately become great, very impossible. Unfortunately we already know how Chelsea owners who always fire the coach if Chelsea always experience defeat, whoever the coach is. That always happened before.

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Quote from: tokeweed on July 07, 2019, 09:35:27 AM

^ That could happen too but it's a long shot. I would love to see him succeed tho. I mean how cool would that be... It makes the league a lot more interesting.

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^ That could happen too but it's a long shot. I would love to see him succeed tho. I mean how cool would that be... It makes the league a lot more interesting.

And yes! Join the pool guys. Play with the cool kids, win some BTC's. Grin

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