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Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on August 10, 2020, 02:17:00 PM

I don’t know anything about Kostas Tsimikas. Any Greek guys here?

Is he any good?

It’s back up for Robertson so I see it as a positive.

Many do not know Kostas Tsimikas, because this player has just won a place in the Olympiakos main team in the 2018-2019 season.
And the two previous seasons on loan to Esbjerg and Willem II. The 2019-2020 season Tsimikas appeared in 46 matches helping Olympiakos
won the Greek Super League champion. To be a back up for Robertson I think it is good, and also the purchase price is not too expensive.

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Quote from: Emitdama on August 10, 2020, 02:35:37 PM

Quote from: snipie on August 10, 2020, 10:18:06 AM

I feel like visiting La Liga or Serie A topic lol. Only posts about Ronaldo, Messi and Zidane!

La liga is certainly not that different than Serie A if you ask me, there is not that many teams that can be champions in both of those leagues. Look at la liga, in the last 20 years there has been 2 teams that won aside from real Madrid and Barcelona, we are talking about 17-18 of those seasons in the past 20 years won by the same two clubs, which makes it as dull as it gets and as predictable as it gets. Do you want a secret, I can say with 99.99% confidence that next champions of la liga will be either real Madrid or Barcelona once again.

Serie A has juventus who keeps winning back to back so many times and Ronaldo went there but one has 2 teams the other has one, that is the only difference, it is not like he went from a league with "who will become champions can't be predicted" type of competition to serie A.

No. I mean this topic is to discuss EPL related stuff, maybe FA Cup too or even a game involving one of EPL teams but certainly not to turn it to a discussion about La Liga/Serie A players and teams unless there is a transfer or something related to EPL.
There is a dedicated topic for each league, including Champions and Europa leagues..

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Quote from: snipie on August 10, 2020, 10:18:06 AM

I feel like visiting La Liga or Serie A topic lol. Only posts about Ronaldo, Messi and Zidane!

La liga is certainly not that different than Serie A if you ask me, there is not that many teams that can be champions in both of those leagues. Look at la liga, in the last 20 years there has been 2 teams that won aside from real Madrid and Barcelona, we are talking about 17-18 of those seasons in the past 20 years won by the same two clubs, which makes it as dull as it gets and as predictable as it gets. Do you want a secret, I can say with 99.99% confidence that next champions of la liga will be either real Madrid or Barcelona once again.

Serie A has juventus who keeps winning back to back so many times and Ronaldo went there but one has 2 teams the other has one, that is the only difference, it is not like he went from a league with "who will become champions can't be predicted" type of competition to serie A.

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I don’t know anything about Kostas Tsimikas. Any Greek guys here?

Is he any good?

It’s back up for Robertson so I see it as a positive.

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Quote from: Lordhermes on August 08, 2020, 06:11:46 PM

~snip~ I strongly believed those clubs could perform their possible best especially Leeds United as Okazaki if I'm not mistaken brings up the club to a new level.

Yes, many clubs in the second division while playing in the FA Cup give difficulties to the top EPL clubs. This is a sign that the promotion club from the second division can compete and survive in the EPL. But one EPL season is a long game, they have to prepare the team by buying quality players so that they can survive not just one season in the EPL. In my opinion, the success of Leeds is Marcelo Bielsa's foresight, besides that I am also happy with the key Leeds midfielder Kalvin Phillips, their collaboration is very good.

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I feel like visiting La Liga or Serie A topic lol. Only posts about Ronaldo, Messi and Zidane!
BTW Willian quits Chelsea and Liverpool gonna sign with Kostas Tsimikas from olympiacos (left-back)

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@hd49728 Messi in top form then? I wonder how you measured that?

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Quote from: Naida_BR on August 10, 2020, 02:50:36 AM

That's why Ronaldo went to Serie A , a not so competitive League like La Liga and in a league that there is not an opponent such as Messi there.
He wanted to keep playing football in a top club (Juventus) and keep doing records in order to be a myth.
He has managed to be a legend in England, Spain and now in Italy during his career.

La Liga is a more opened league than Serie A that tend to have more tightened matches. If you watched matches when Messi in his highest form years ago, was beaten entirely by Alex Nesta in AC Milan, you would have understood it. Nesta, in that season was been in his last two or three seasons before his retirement.

Messi was so angry with opportunities were taken by Nesta, and he angrily thumbed on the ground.

I am not a fan of Ronaldo, but once again if you watched his dribbling skills in his 19s, in Manchester United, you can not say his dribbling skills are bad. He is wise and changes his playing style over time, from a wingback, to forward and a striker.

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Quote from: DeathAngel on August 09, 2020, 03:11:27 PM

Quote from: boltz on August 09, 2020, 01:29:06 PM

Zidane is currently a bigger player than a coach as he had a brilliant career winning everything during his period. Now as coach he started like no other one so I think in time he will be the greatest coach but he should've move to Juventus but instead they signed Pirlo... . Also Pep is a great coach but his career as a football player was great even if we didn't hear about him but he had a strong presence in the pitch and a lot of ex players told this about Pep.

For Zidane - No Ronaldo, no party. I don’t think he’s a great coach, all of those CL wins were largely dictated by Ronaldo in his peak. Look at Zidane since Ronaldo left.

If so as you say, then why did Ronaldo and Juventus fail to pass Lyon? Zidane is not a very strong coach, but he can give the team what it needs to win.

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Quote from: jayce on August 09, 2020, 03:49:18 PM

Quote from: DeathAngel on August 09, 2020, 03:11:27 PM

For Zidane - No Ronaldo, no party. I don’t think he’s a great coach, all of those CL wins were largely dictated by Ronaldo in his peak. Look at Zidane since Ronaldo left.

And so does Ronaldo. He literally doesn't give so much impact for Juventus except making his own individual records there.

That's why Ronaldo went to Serie A , a not so competitive League like La Liga and in a league that there is not an opponent such as Messi there.
He wanted to keep playing football in a top club (Juventus) and keep doing records in order to be a myth.
He has managed to be a legend in England, Spain and now in Italy during his career.

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Quote from: Upgrade00 on August 07, 2020, 04:42:53 AM

Nominees for the premier league young (<23 at the start of the season) player of the 2019/20 season are in;

I can't believe Bukayo Saka didn't make the cut.

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Who are you picking?

Trent Alexander-Arnold all the way.
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Which goal you guys are voting for "Budweiser Goal of the Season"?
^{- My pick is SON Heung-min's goal against Burnley.}

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Quote from: el kaka22 on August 09, 2020, 01:30:13 PM

People are undervaluing what Nuno has achieved with the Wolves, we are talking about a team that normally doesn't end up in these levels and Nuno made them almost a champions league level team which they couldn't even imagine if it wasn't for him but they almost got there if they didn't suck so badly after the pandemic. Would he get big club offers? Maybe not now, he needs some more years before he could be asked from those teams, and most of those teams actually get players from their own club, look at Barça now, they are probably looking into Xavi to be their next Pep Guardiola as well.

However that doesn't mean he will never get that offer, if he keeps up this great situation for 2 more years he will probably get an offer from a big club that fires their manager for bad results and have a chance to turn that ship around.

I agree that Nuno as the coach of the Wolves team should be given appreciation, the busy schedule due to the pandemic has made Wolves
play even more decreased. Even before the pandemic, Wolves were able to compete for the Champions League spot. The success that Wolves
achieved, because of greatness Nuno as coach. But to get offers from big clubs, like Juventus or Barcelona. Like not at this time, except for
Wolves next season managed to get a Champions League spot.

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Quote from: DeathAngel on August 09, 2020, 03:11:27 PM

For Zidane - No Ronaldo, no party. I don’t think he’s a great coach, all of those CL wins were largely dictated by Ronaldo in his peak. Look at Zidane since Ronaldo left.

And so does Ronaldo. He literally doesn't give so much impact for Juventus except making his own individual records there.

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Quote from: boltz on August 09, 2020, 01:29:06 PM

Zidane is currently a bigger player than a coach as he had a brilliant career winning everything during his period. Now as coach he started like no other one so I think in time he will be the greatest coach but he should've move to Juventus but instead they signed Pirlo... . Also Pep is a great coach but his career as a football player was great even if we didn't hear about him but he had a strong presence in the pitch and a lot of ex players told this about Pep.

For Zidane - No Ronaldo, no party. I don’t think he’s a great coach, all of those CL wins were largely dictated by Ronaldo in his peak. Look at Zidane since Ronaldo left.

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People are undervaluing what Nuno has achieved with the Wolves, we are talking about a team that normally doesn't end up in these levels and Nuno made them almost a champions league level team which they couldn't even imagine if it wasn't for him but they almost got there if they didn't suck so badly after the pandemic. Would he get big club offers? Maybe not now, he needs some more years before he could be asked from those teams, and most of those teams actually get players from their own club, look at Barça now, they are probably looking into Xavi to be their next Pep Guardiola as well.

However that doesn't mean he will never get that offer, if he keeps up this great situation for 2 more years he will probably get an offer from a big club that fires their manager for bad results and have a chance to turn that ship around.

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Zidane is currently a bigger player than a coach as he had a brilliant career winning everything during his period. Now as coach he started like no other one so I think in time he will be the greatest coach but he should've move to Juventus but instead they signed Pirlo... . Also Pep is a great coach but his career as a football player was great even if we didn't hear about him but he had a strong presence in the pitch and a lot of ex players told this about Pep.

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Quote from: tokeweed on August 09, 2020, 07:53:45 AM

^ Doubtful. Was Nuno a former Barca player? Barca has a tradition of hiring only former players as their manager afaik. And I don't think he's ready for a big club just yet imho. I do see him as a somewhat nice fit at clubs like Atletico or Tottenham.

No one saw pep before he took over the coaching role as fit for a big club, no one saw zidane of real Madrid before he took over as the best fit for a big club, but these two coaches proves the where great coaches and fits into big clubs, what a coach needs is good bond/relationship with the team at his disposal, if this two fits just like a connection of wires, they can spark up any club.

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Quote from: EdenHazard on August 09, 2020, 11:26:28 AM

There's nothing wrong on making a player selection that come from his own country as we have seen at arsenal where arsene wenger tend to sign players from france .. that's because they have better scouting & networking there or it could be for communication and understanding on applying a strategy.

Of course, player who have the same passport as the coach make it possible to better understand the strategy presented by the coach. I agree with you, and it doesnt matter. Many coaches have a habit of recruiting player from their home country because of their language skills, which will make it easier for them to convey their strategy.

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The countdown till the 20/21 season is 34 days to go.
Can't wait to see my team fighting for the title race with werner leading the chelsea front.

Really, it feels really fast.

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Quote from: Juggy777 on August 09, 2020, 08:38:57 AM

@tokeweed Nuno is not a former Barcelona player, and I don’t think that he’ll drop the wolves project just yet, as I expect him to stick with wolves for at least one more year. @Trofo I wasn’t aware of his love for Portuguese player’s, but with that mentality he won’t ever get a job offer from a big club, unless he’s proves that he’s open to adapt and change his approach regarding the selection of his playing 11.

Sources:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuno_Esp%C3%ADrito_Santo

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-8605633/Wolves-open-talks-boss-Nuno-Espirito-Santo-Europa-League-run.html

There's nothing wrong on making a player selection that come from his own country as we have seen at arsenal where arsene wenger tend to sign players from france .. that's because they have better scouting & networking there or it could be for communication and understanding on applying a strategy .

Anyways yeah i heard that wolves are ready to offer new contract for nuno which i can't see any reason why he would reject it, Barcelona had xavi in their top list and pochettino after , no chance for nuno.

The countdown till the 20/21 season is 34 days to go.
Can't wait to see my team fighting for the title race with werner leading the chelsea front.

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Quote from: Trofo on August 09, 2020, 08:09:00 AM

Quote from: tokeweed on August 09, 2020, 07:53:45 AM

^ Doubtful. Was Nuno a former Barca player? Barca has a tradition of hiring only former players as their manager afaik. And I don't think he's ready for a big club just yet imho. I do see him as a somewhat nice fit at clubs like Atletico or Tottenham.

I don't see him as a top club manager. He has very good connections in his home Portugal and knows/trusts Portuguese players the best. You can see how many Portuguese players are in Wolves at the moment, I remember one game when he had 7 first team Portuguese players in starting line up, all 7 bought after he took the job if I am not mistaken.

That is not something that can be done at the biggest scene.

@tokeweed Nuno is not a former Barcelona player, and I don’t think that he’ll drop the wolves project just yet, as I expect him to stick with wolves for at least one more year. @Trofo I wasn’t aware of his love for Portuguese player’s, but with that mentality he won’t ever get a job offer from a big club, unless he’s proves that he’s open to adapt and change his approach regarding the selection of his playing 11.

Sources:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuno_Esp%C3%ADrito_Santo

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-8605633/Wolves-open-talks-boss-Nuno-Espirito-Santo-Europa-League-run.html

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