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Quote from: tokeweed on August 09, 2020, 07:53:45 AM

^ Doubtful. Was Nuno a former Barca player? Barca has a tradition of hiring only former players as their manager afaik. And I don't think he's ready for a big club just yet imho. I do see him as a somewhat nice fit at clubs like Atletico or Tottenham.

Well in fact, 4 of 8 Barca last coaches wasn't their former players. I also felt Valverde, Setien, and Martino weren't ready for a big club yet but Barca somehow still hired them to manage the team. But I agree that Tottenham could be a good decision for Santo like what Pochettino did right after several of his best players in Southampton moved to big teams.

Quote from: Trofo on August 09, 2020, 08:09:00 AM

I don't see him as a top club manager. He has very good connections in his home Portugal and knows/trusts Portuguese players the best. You can see how many Portuguese players are in Wolves at the moment, I remember one game when he had 7 first team Portuguese players in starting line up, all 7 bought after he took the job if I am not mistaken.

That is not something that can be done at the biggest scene.

As long as it gives positive impact to the team, I don't think it's a problem if he wants to use players from his country. But yeah probably he is not a top manager yet. Ranieri able to get Leicester their first Premier League title in their history, but after their best players leaved, the team was struggling. The same case might happen to Santo.

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Quote from: tokeweed on August 09, 2020, 07:53:45 AM

^ Doubtful. Was Nuno a former Barca player? Barca has a tradition of hiring only former players as their manager afaik. And I don't think he's ready for a big club just yet imho. I do see him as a somewhat nice fit at clubs like Atletico or Tottenham.

I don't see him as a top club manager. He has very good connections in his home Portugal and knows/trusts Portuguese players the best. You can see how many Portuguese players are in Wolves at the moment, I remember one game when he had 7 first team Portuguese players in starting line up, all 7 bought after he took the job if I am not mistaken.

That is not something that can be done at the biggest scene.

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^ Doubtful. Was Nuno a former Barca player? Barca has a tradition of hiring only former players as their manager afaik. And I don't think he's ready for a big club just yet imho. I do see him as a somewhat nice fit at clubs like Atletico or Tottenham.

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Quote from: Emitdama on August 08, 2020, 01:45:52 PM

I never really considered United to be such a young and exciting team, I always thought about them as a team that usually fails, sometimes gets good results but that is about it, never really young on top o their current situation.

Wolves looking to be one of the other teams that has a bright future as well, they are doing very well too and I think they are going to get better. That is the great thing about premier league, there is at least 10 teams I can count that should be in the top 5 spot, that is really hard, and one of them happens to be 10th in the end of the season but by all accounts any team that is top 10 in premier league could probably be top 5 in almost any league, would be for most of them but for some of them it could be harder yet has a chance for all of them.

Wolves has outstanding performance in last two years, but it's just matter of time their performance would go down once their coach and few of best players leave the club, like Southampton, Everton and Leicester. Luckily, Leicester seems have found their shape back under Rodgers. I'm very sure Nuno Santo has been receiving many offers from big teams and I wouldn't be surprised if he moves to Barcelona or PSG.

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Quote from: AakZaki on August 06, 2020, 01:42:47 PM

Congratulations to Leeds, WBA and Fulham, they will play in the English Primer League season 2020/21, the history of three clubs have all played in the English Primer League even though it was then. Look at Leeds last at EPL in 2003/04, WBA in 2017/18 and Fulham in 2018/19. And then they have experienced coaches except Fulham, Marcelo Bielsa at Leeds, Bilic at WBA, and Scott Parker at Fulham. Bielsa and Bilic have experience and trophies while Scott Parker does not have, his achievements brought the promotion of Fulham to the EPL. Looking at the opportunities of the three team promotion in the season 2020/21 in the English Primer League, can they survive or just through?

All the three clubs listed above had had experience in English premier league, the epl battle field ground is not a strange things for them as its just a one step harder into their career, WBA, Leeds and Fulham has great styles of play in England. I strongly believed those clubs could perform their possible best especially Leeds United as Okazaki if I'm not mistaken brings up the club to a new level.

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I never really considered United to be such a young and exciting team, I always thought about them as a team that usually fails, sometimes gets good results but that is about it, never really young on top o their current situation.

Wolves looking to be one of the other teams that has a bright future as well, they are doing very well too and I think they are going to get better. That is the great thing about premier league, there is at least 10 teams I can count that should be in the top 5 spot, that is really hard, and one of them happens to be 10th in the end of the season but by all accounts any team that is top 10 in premier league could probably be top 5 in almost any league, would be for most of them but for some of them it could be harder yet has a chance for all of them.

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Quote from: el kaka22 on August 07, 2020, 12:10:06 PM

Jesus christ Marcus Rashford is still 22 years old!!!! I can't believe dude is still that young! I was fully expecting him to be over 27 years old by this point, god knows he has been playing so well for so many years that I was expecting him to be older. Manchester United has suuuuch a huge potential, I mean we are talking about such a huge potential that they are still young and yet they finished with third position already, and this is with best player being 22-23 years old.

I wonder what they will be like in 2-3 seasons, we are talking about Rashford becoming like 25-26 years old, and he is basically working as well as possible on himself as well so he will definitely peak in talent as well. I hope that eventually united goes back to their old roots and become a great team, past few years since SAF retired has been horrible.

We could be evolving a pretty strong national team with those guys too as they get better.

Currently many young players doing very good job for clubs and they can do much better for national team in near future because they have ability and courage so surely England could be good national in near future with these youngsters.

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Quote from: el kaka22 on August 07, 2020, 12:10:06 PM

Jesus christ Marcus Rashford is still 22 years old!!!! I can't believe dude is still that young! I was fully expecting him to be over 27 years old by this point, god knows he has been playing so well for so many years that I was expecting him to be older. Manchester United has suuuuch a huge potential, I mean we are talking about such a huge potential that they are still young and yet they finished with third position already, and this is with best player being 22-23 years old.

I wonder what they will be like in 2-3 seasons, we are talking about Rashford becoming like 25-26 years old, and he is basically working as well as possible on himself as well so he will definitely peak in talent as well. I hope that eventually united goes back to their old roots and become a great team, past few years since SAF retired has been horrible.

We could be evolving a pretty strong national team with those guys too as they get better.

*Edit* I just got 7/1 on Chelsea for their Europe match against Bayern. They are 3:0 behind from first leg so surely trying to win. I chucked a few quid on it */edit*

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Quote from: Globb0 on August 07, 2020, 08:14:19 AM

Here are the individual player rankings from SofaScore

https://i.imgur.com/L5lNRIo.jpg

Debruyne has been consistently the top

Looks like Willian carried Chelsea

See the 2 clear leaders (looks like Liverpool were actually lucky to win)

https://i.imgur.com/AzOYHKe.jpg

Maybe we could have our own version of the superbowl.

The 4 top players from the 2 best teams draft in players from all the other clubs for a big final?

Don't know but I feel like Mané and Aubameyang are a little bit, well undervalued in this score. Especially Aubameyang, if he was playing in Liverpool or City for example he will be in in the top 3-5 imo

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Quote from: cryptofrka on August 07, 2020, 02:54:14 AM

The '5 substitutes per game' proposition was rejected by Premier league clubs yesterday.

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/five-substitutions-rule-clubs-vote-a9657336.html

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“Clubs also agreed to revert back to using up to three substitute players per match, with a maximum of seven substitutes on the bench.”

11 teams voted against, stating it would be an advantage for Top 6 clubs.

I agree with the decision and am happy to see the old substitute rule return.

I was writing about it a few weeks ago in some other topic and how unfair this is towards the smaller clubs with smaller budgets and less options on the bench. Glad that we are returning back to normal and that sanity and fair play prevailed.

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Jesus christ Marcus Rashford is still 22 years old!!!! I can't believe dude is still that young! I was fully expecting him to be over 27 years old by this point, god knows he has been playing so well for so many years that I was expecting him to be older. Manchester United has suuuuch a huge potential, I mean we are talking about such a huge potential that they are still young and yet they finished with third position already, and this is with best player being 22-23 years old.

I wonder what they will be like in 2-3 seasons, we are talking about Rashford becoming like 25-26 years old, and he is basically working as well as possible on himself as well so he will definitely peak in talent as well. I hope that eventually united goes back to their old roots and become a great team, past few years since SAF retired has been horrible.

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Here are the individual player rankings from SofaScore

Debruyne has been consistently the top

Looks like Willian carried Chelsea

See the 2 clear leaders (looks like Liverpool were actually lucky to win)

Maybe we could have our own version of the superbowl.

The 4 top players from the 2 best teams draft in players from all the other clubs for a big final?

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Quote from: cryptofrka on August 07, 2020, 05:15:42 AM

You're kidding, right? Without any bias, it just has to be Trent Alexander-Arnold. He scored some amazing goals, had over 10 assists from the full-back position and was a constant starter in a record-breaking champions team.

I was against the POTS reward for Henderson because I think De Bruyne was a class of his own this season and so was Alexander-Arnold for young player of the year award.

Rashford was decent, but my opinion is that it's not even close.

Trent AA has become European, World & English League Champion in the last year breaking assist records for a fullback. Rashford has, well, done nothing. It’s no competition who wins the YPOTY.

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Quote from: casperBGD on August 07, 2020, 05:19:23 AM

yeah, but there has to be a bias, and since you are a LFC fan, it is kind a obvious that you pick a LFC player, and that is ok
i am not a fan of MUFC, but think that Rashford had a good season, within a club that was not finished as good as it should be, and that is the only thing for him that is challenging his position on this list

but, you should not expect from U23 player to bring titles, he will do it in the future

Nope, I really would not. Mane had a great season, he was my LFC player of the year by far, and I'd give the reward to de Bruyne.
We have our nominees btw, they are Mane, De Bruyne, Henderson, Pope, Vardy, Ings and Alexander-Arnold. So, if Alexander-Arnold is in contention for the player of the season irrelevant of his age, then he has to claim the Young player of the season if you ask me. He was exceptional this season.

I'd put them in this order: De Bruyne, Mane, Ings, Henderson, Pope, Vardy, Alexander-Arnold.

We also have nominees for the managers, it's between Klopp, Rodgers, Lampard and Wilder. For me it's Klopp, Wilder, Rodgers and Lampard as last - he'd be in front of Rodgers if they won the cup.

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Agree with @cryptofrka here. That guy is playing great football. He has improved a lot and is doing some crazy amount of assists and key passes which have played a crucial part in most of Liverpool goals this season.

It has to be Trent Alexander-Arnold IMO.

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Quote from: cryptofrka on August 07, 2020, 05:15:42 AM

Without any bias, it just has to be Trent Alexander-Arnold.

Rashford was decent, but my opinion is that it's not even close.

yeah, but there has to be a bias, and since you are a LFC fan, it is kind a obvious that you pick a LFC player, and that is ok
i am not a fan of MUFC, but think that Rashford had a good season, within a club that was not finished as good as it should be, and that is the only thing for him that is challenging his position on this list

but, you should not expect from U23 player to bring titles, he will do it in the future

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You're kidding, right? Without any bias, it just has to be Trent Alexander-Arnold. He scored some amazing goals, had over 10 assists from the full-back position and was a constant starter in a record-breaking champions team.

I was against the POTS reward for Henderson because I think De Bruyne was a class of his own this season and so was Alexander-Arnold for young player of the year award.

Rashford was decent, but my opinion is that it's not even close.

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Quote from: swogerino on August 07, 2020, 05:08:37 AM

Quote from: Upgrade00 on August 07, 2020, 04:42:53 AM

Nominees for the premier league young (<23 at the start of the season) player of the 2019/20 season are in;

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Trent Alexander-Arnold   Liverpool
Jack Grealish   Aston Villa
Mason Greenwood   Manchester United
Dean Henderson   Manchester United/Sheffield United
Anthony Martial   Manchester United
Mason Mount   Chelsea
Christian Pulisic   Chelsea
Marcus Rashford   Manchester United

Manchester United had the highest number of representatives with Chelsea getting 2. Manchester City missed out on any nomination after bagging the last two awards through Raheem Sterling and Leroy Sane.
Who are you picking?

I think based on the list we see here it would be a mistake to give this title to anyone else rather than Marcus Rashford.He has shown great performance during this season and more precisely during the second half of the season.He was a great player since he was 19 so it is only natural to get better with experience and he just proved it this year.

You are quick becaue I was also going to post about Marcus Rashford he is really one of most improved player recently and done very good job in second half of Premier League in near future we can expect some more good from him as he is doing good job for his club hope he is going to be in to ranked players list.

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Quote from: Upgrade00 on August 07, 2020, 04:42:53 AM

Nominees for the premier league young (<23 at the start of the season) player of the 2019/20 season are in;

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Trent Alexander-Arnold   Liverpool
Jack Grealish   Aston Villa
Mason Greenwood   Manchester United
Dean Henderson   Manchester United/Sheffield United
Anthony Martial   Manchester United
Mason Mount   Chelsea
Christian Pulisic   Chelsea
Marcus Rashford   Manchester United

Manchester United had the highest number of representatives with Chelsea getting 2. Manchester City missed out on any nomination after bagging the last two awards through Raheem Sterling and Leroy Sane.
Who are you picking?

I think based on the list we see here it would be a mistake to give this title to anyone else rather than Marcus Rashford.He has shown great performance during this season and more precisely during the second half of the season.He was a great player since he was 19 so it is only natural to get better with experience and he just proved it this year.

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Quote from: Upgrade00 on August 07, 2020, 04:42:53 AM

Marcus Rashford Manchester United

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my pick is with Rashford, one of a kind, and think that he will do good in next five years, hopefully within MUFC

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