Topic: Presidential debates (Read 2330 times)

I think it’s kinda stupid because we can’t NOT frac.. I mean, unless you want the entire world to starve to death, we gotta frac.

Fracking is WAYYYY down since COVID hit..
https://www.aogr.com/web-exclusives/us-frac-spread-count/2020

We went from over 350 frac crews running to 45 this year due to COVID!!!
Back up to about 130 right now but their were 370 this time last year running..

Fracking is damn good jobs if your tough enough to handle it.. While I was fracking my average full pull weeks paid me 112 hours PER WEEK standard IF I didn’t end up on the clock any extra time for any reason.. I’ve gotten 40 hours in 2 days more than a couple times..

Overtime before lunch on Wednesday.. (week starts Monday)

Damn I miss it.. Will make ya feel like a hero at times.. A lot of fun and very personally fulfilling work..
Money is pretty good too..

Difficult getting a frac job right now last I tried..



All this talk about minorities/blacks not having the same opportunity, white privilege nonsense..
Bring fracking back and they have all the opportunity in the world, if they can hack it..
Have fracked with plenty of blacks and all sorts of races, they can do it, don’t need no college degree, just common sense and work ethic..
Women too..

Blender tender here.. Basically the heart feeding the fleet, mixing all pumping fluids with my 2,400 hp of pumps usually running about 4,000 gallons per minute @80-100psi, feeding the 35,000hp worth of high pressure pumps that boost it up to 10,000-13,000 psi and down the hole it goes..
Things happened by my hand and when problems happen many many times it was my job to save the day.. Especially running experimental crap when ya never know what it’s gonna do..

You ever hear/feel 30,000 horse power blasting? Omg.. Love it..

Job interviews.. Plumbing experience? Lol yeah a bit.. Pressure testing? Only up to 15k.. Can you work overtime? Yeah, I think so.. So you can work 60 hours a week? Lolwut?
Makes most anything else almost seem like a joke once you’ve done something like that..

Yeah that entire fracking answer + the oil portion of things is NOT going to bode well with those in PA, a critical state that Trump needs to flip on his path to (potential) victory.

We're a good few days out of the debate at this point, and Trump is continuing to NAIL the fact that Biden went against fracking. Trump is currently planning an EO on fracking to get some more media attention around it. National level media matters, but the local PA media is probably covering the SHIT about fracking and what each person thinks about it.

Last ditch effort to win a must win state. If Trump wins Florida, Arizona, and Pennsylvania, map could end up looking like this with a Trump Victory



Trump Fracking WSJ - https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-weighs-executive-order-to-show-support-for-fracking-11603825225

^^^ Especially now that we have super-strong evidence that a Chinese movie star helped Hunter get high, probably in Beijing. Btw, she's from Wuhan.

China needs to work on their their pro Biden bots. ^^

The debate went well with Joe Biden who is when educated than Trump who is the president of US correctly. Joe Biden mentioned so many amenities he will help the government to achieve in one year if elected as the president of US. Many citizens are changing their minds with Joe Biden talk which are words of politics.
Trump is not educated like Biden but if it comes to richest Trump is more richer than joe Biden. Biden will surely win this debate because of his speech that is touching every body to change their mind to choose him as the next president.

WELCOME to POLITICS buddy, where everything is a lie, and greed comes on top. I actually love how they make offensive moves, strategies against the other party just to make themselves pretty and amusing to the mass. All I can say about politics is just vote for the lesser evil. I really don't care whoever presides as the presidents of the united states, but I do not want Trump to win, just in my opinion, cause he already has himself for 6 years in that seat. So let somebody do the rest. I also want to see how the other candidate of united states for the presidency acts as the new president. I want to see him myself, governing the entire nation, with all the eyes on the activities, and propaganda regarding the sensitive issues the nations are currently facing.

Interesting to know but I still consider such debates Avenue to know the best strategic liars. They are all desperate for power and would make unfulfilling promises to the citizens just to get their vote during election and as soon as they assume power their manifesto change automatically. Irrespective of all odds we keep our heart positive and pray for better leaders not just in America but worldwide because I believe with good leadership in the world  Bitcoin would have better chances even as a decentralized currency.I have a dream that one day I would pay my bills using bitcoin!

There is no question. There is no debate. All there is are lies. But are they really lies? Looks like they have solid evidence of Biden's self-incriminating activity... both Bidens. Watch the video at the site.


Video Report: Diary Of Joe Biden's Daughter Alleges Years Of Sexual Molestation

Biden was trying to claim to be not against Fracking and ended up taking a far worse position.

It appears that Biden is trying to privately tell the far left wing of his party that he will be an extremist while telling the rest of the country that he will be moderate.

This is the exact same argument that democrats made in the 2018 midterm elections, and since the new congress was sworn in, Democrats have voted almost always as a bloc, including for impeachment that had no chance of actually removing the president (that would only divide the country), and other extreme bills (also that are going nowhere in the Senate).

I think his strategy was right but the problem with Biden is that he used too much emotional hyperbole and rhetoric that I don't think Americans are wise enough to pick up on it.

He talked about 220k dead and people missing family members at the dinner table, or reaching over at someone out of habit and not having them there. It's nonsense and it's clear that his democratic staffers came up with these lines for Biden to recite. It's also apparent that Biden would not have done much better but he keeps throwing up this attack line hoping it sticks.

you can buy home versions of spirometers (i think thats the term). just get a baseline and keep seeing if you can match it.

not a diagnostic tool per se but it can help you notice a gradual decline. log your readings

a pulse oximiter is useful too. just keep in touch with your MD, these are not meant to be substitutes for true medical care.

A narcissist who's largely living in fantasy-land vs a senile old politician... And they both ended up visibly winded by the end.

The whole "trojan horse for socialism" argument is just stupid; people who aren't already voting for Trump simply find it unbelievable. "You're running against Joe Biden!" And Trump brings up the stock market... You're not speaking to avid Fox News watchers, Don.

Trump should've pointed out that at least according to FBI director Ratcliffe, Russia and Iran are trying to make Trump lose. (This is just spin from Ratcliffe, but it would've been effective for Trump to repeat.)

Framing the question of structural racism in terms of "the talk" was smart by the moderator, connecting something abstract to something that most people can find believable and many will relate to personally. Biden's response to the question was effective, though when you dig deeper, the Democratic ideology toward structural racism is basically that racism is original sin: everyone/everything has it, it can't be removed, and all you can do is constantly but futilely try to atone for it through various forms of self-flagellation. IMO this is both wrongheaded and ultimately an unpopular message, but yet the Republicans always seem to want to ignore the issue entirely rather than actually making an ideological argument. Trump's response in this case was to basically dodge the question and point to several ways in which he's helped minority communities, which was an effective response, but like most Republicans, he avoids presenting an actual ideology here. Republicans should say something like, "A great many people, especially minority communities, feel oppressed by the system, often with good reason. We should try to fix this. However, the end goal is colorblindness: to put racial divisions behind us. You don't do that through stuff like affirmative action or critical race theory, which only solidify racial divisions."

It's pathetic that Trump wasn't more effective at attacking someone who is both in terms of style and record as weak as Biden. Both sides made several effective arguments, though Biden was weaker on style, so I'd say that Trump "won", though this'll have nearly zero impact: even less than the previous debates.

I'd like to know what made Biden turn against the "Poor Boys" suddenly.  I thought he previously said they're "just as smart as white kids".

He admitted he was carbonphobic
Wants to shut down the entire oilfield..
Exactly what all of America's enemies want..

By by PA and OH.. OK, LA, ND, TX, etc.. And anyone with enough braincells to realize that CO2 is NOT a pollutant..

Catch where he hit on the fact that wind turbines create more pollution than than they solve, and that natural gas is cleaner??
Yeah..

Screw wind turbines right?


Nope..
Trump smoked him with "you called my travel restrictions xenophobic" and he was absolutely right about the shutdowns causing more harm than covid itself..
"You can't do that Joe"..

Biden had no solutions to covid other than more shutdowns..

Trump was right on "protect the elderly and health compromised"..
We can't shut the whole country down.. Rather we should just protect those who are highly at risk.. Just like the flu (but no vaccine yet)..


You have a positive covid antibodies test to be sure? Or you just assume that?
Did it hit you hard too? Are you SURE it was covid?


I think it's likely I had covid.. I had a cough for 3 weeks and I've mostly gotten over it..
Have a physical coming up Tuesday preceded by a fitness evaluation.. Wish me luck..
Damn I just love geting my BP and heart rate taken just after maxing out on squats and pushups etc.. NOT...

You ever blow into one of those pulmonary test jigs? Not fun at all..
"Beep- ""Blow blow blow blow blow blow"" hhhheeee ""blow blow blow blow"" Beep" ... Like damn man, I've been flat chested for 10 seconds and I'm supposed to keep blowing? Humans can do that?
"Shit doc, am I gonna die soon? I know I smoke too much.. "
"No you passed"
"Good thing you already took my BP yo "

Wow, that actually was a debate. A bit of rambling here and there but that was as good as it gets. It was a boring debate, but I think in everyone's interest that's probably better than a shouting match.

I think Trump won overall because of his latter half performance but Biden was beating him heavily on COVID response and healthcare. The Trump campaign is going to have an absolute field day with Biden on fracking and his weird ass condemnation of the oil industry which came out of no where.

Trump was far too soft.. Should have drilled harder on more points.. Should have got demanding..
Biden looked like he was just trying to survive..

Trump won on China, Russia, NK, Ukraine, covid, oil, "green" BS, etc..

Or maybe it's just my bias..

Trump should have railroaded Biden and the moderator and hit harder on the whole Hunter Biden situation..
Wish he would have just ran them over like a tank..

Trump sounded like he was talking to a child the entire time..
Boooo Trump.. You are supposed to be a killer..

Trump won this debate.

But a clear bullshit on his part was how clean USA air is.

It is clean because no one is driving due to covid.

My biggest issue is clean air.

I am a life long asthmatic.

My wife still has lung damage due to covid.

Apparently Biden is running against Lincoln. Or maybe this is a dog whistle on the part of Biden to his supporters.

I noticed there were several times in which Biden was unable to recall specific facts and got a lot wrong.

Probably most importantly, Biden said he would shut down the oil industry (maybe to help Burisma).

Biden's wearing out.

Watching.. Trump is being too soft, but still kicking his ass..