Topic: Presidential debates - page 6. (Read 2330 times)

Anyone else notice that fly on Pences head?  It's been there for like 5 minutes now.

 Boooring.

 Wait!  A little excitement.... aw they got shut down.

Hey look, a real debate.

https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2020/09/10/voters-attitudes-about-race-and-gender-are-even-more-divided-than-in-2016/

tl;dr: 76% of voters think it's more difficult to be black than white, and 59% think that white people benefit from societal advantages unavailable to black people.

It might be quite perilous for Pence to try that line.

Predictions for VP debate tonight?

I looked at some clips of the dem debates and Kamala Harris is not a good debater. Watching her TV interviews, all she does is laugh when she's pressed on a question that's tough or uncomfortable, and she hasn't done many interviews (I don't think she's done a single press conference either). Tulsi Gabbard wiped the floor with her back during the primaries too. Mike Pence has a reserved approach with smooth delivery and he's pretty good at deflecting criticisms of Trump and spinning them. On policy, Trump wins and I expect Pence to keep things about policy.

Some topics I hope to see Pence mention - Packing the court, Biden's flipping on the Green New Deal, challenging Biden's campaign general philosophy that America is inherently evil and systemically racist. I don't think Harris will have any responses to these topics other than emotional hyperbole. Most Americans don't actually want to see the courts packed, nor do they think America is systemically racist.

Some clear lines of attack from Harris - Trump's obvious COVID-19 diagnosis and his general light handed approach on safety. For me, it's gonna be hard for Pence to spin this one. Trump clearly did not do things on a personal level to stay safe. An obvious deflection would be Biden's reluctance to implement a travel ban but we'll see how it plays out.

If Pence utterly fails in this debate, I think it's safe to say the election is officially over and Trump can begin packing his bags. If Pence "ties" this debate, Trump can pack his bags.

Yeah, the VP Debate is tomorrow night, the Biden campaign already petitioned to have the podiums moved further apart but at this point in the campaign it still seems like such an unnecessary risk for Kamala to be in the same room as any member of team "don't worry about it!"

I think this in-person debate nonsense needs to end. They can yell at each other over Zoom, like us peasants have been doing for the last 7 months.


https://clecityhall.com/2020/10/02/city-of-cleveland-statement-regarding-post-debate-covid-19-cases-update-194/

Sure they can. They don't have to show up in the crowded room, they can go into the Senate room empty at night and in a spacesuit and post their vote.

I didn't know which senators tested positive, but ofc health and safety come first. If they're asymptomatic, a virtual confirmation hearing would be fine as long as they feel physically okay. Under no circumstances should someone test positive for COVID and then show up to vote.

One lockdown policy for the wilds of Montana, the New Mexico desert, and the crowded, dirty slums of New York?

I think Trump has it pretty much right in leaving such policy decisions to the states.

Biden has already said that he's ready to debate if experts advise of a safe way to do it. Trump in a hazmat suit could be good for TV ratings, the only thing he genuinely cares about.

Damn it... That isn't even good politics by any stretch of the imagination. It maybe appeals to some of his base, but it turns off a lot of people.

I agree that people shouldn't "live in fear"; a lot of the lockdown actions have gone way too far. But it's like driving (which is also quite dangerous!): you shouldn't live in fear or let the risk control your life, but you should also wear a seatbelt and drive carefully.

It's looking like Trump is going to get destroyed in this election, in large part because he just can't get beyond his own irrationality, narcissism, and tribalism. It's frustrating to watch, since Biden is a terrible candidate who represents an awful ideology. I think we're all kind of expecting due to 2016 that things will at least shift somewhat in Trump's favor, but with current polling Biden is on track to win in a historic landslide. And it's even possible that polls will be wrong in Biden's favor this time around, especially since pollsters might well have over-compensated after 2016: margins of error go both ways.

I saw a sign today that said:



Trump and Biden Squabble While America Burns

Do these experiences also cause Trump to be able to empathize with any other human besides his lil selfie?

I would suspect that one of the qualifications of any person holding a public office or seeking to hold a public office should be to attempt to represent the interests and needs of people, and seems a bit difficult if the only people that such purported representative is capable of representing is his lil selfie. 

Sure, indirectly, Trump may well end up representing some American peeps that happen to be similarly situated to himself, but seems to me that the needs and aspirations of America is much more diverse than the profile of one person, even if such person happens to be a perfect person, such as we all recognize the red-headed self-absorbed dweeb to be.

Trump campaign communications director on Fox:

"The President has experience, now, fighting the coronavirus as an individual. Those firsthand experiences, Joe Biden, he doesn’t have those."

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Sorry to disappoint.

I knew all along that MAGA was positively infectious.

(a joke)

Covid doesn't seem that dangerous, according to WHO.

https://twitter.com/AlexBerenson/status/1312180625412038656

Now's a great chance for Trump to demonstrate that he is capable of humility. Now that the virus has personally affected him, maybe his outlook on it will change and he will be a bit more sensitive toward the problem. I notice he's already stopped calling it the "China virus" which is a good first step forward.

Or just the republican Senators the day before the SCOTUS confirmation vote.

If he personally tries to risk his life on this, then I respect his determination, but I hope that he doesn't try to send a general message of "coronavirus is harmless, look at me!". I hate that he's allowed "not wearing a mask" to become some sort of political statement. I'm opposed to mandatory closures and mask mandates, but not wearing a mask just for the sake of tribalism is completely braindead, and a leader encouraging this is just hurting his own faction. It's like Trump mailing all registered Republicans coupons for sky diving, hard liquor, and cigarettes, and telling them that real patriots aren't pussies.

Well looks like Trump team Is hoping to get Trump out of the hospital and debate Biden.

UNLESS Biden is afraid of doing it. I HEARD four Republicans say Trump is getting well and wants to show you can push through the illness.