Problem Gamblers here who are in Debt ? - page 8.

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Quote from: fuer44 on September 24, 2017, 03:00:20 AM

in my opinion, when gamblers lose in gambling and they still want to keep playing, they will do various ways to keep playing. one of them is by way of debt. they dare to debt, because they believe will win and can return their debt. but in my opinion, if lost at the moment, it is better to just retreat, dont continues the gambling with the way of debt.

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Quote from: zergenyt09 on September 29, 2017, 09:45:59 AM

Once indulged deeply into something, it becomes hard to shake off old habits. This is the problem with addicts. They can't live without their daily doze. Gambling is very addictive. Moreover, it makes a person greedy also when he wins two or three times.

Due to these two reasons, gamblers do not quit the game and keep on going in loss. They should get control over their greed.

I don't think it is possible to control greed, either you are greedy and always wants more or you are not greedy and you are happy with just little you get. Gambling addiction is not caused by greed, it is caused buy chemicals in brain. Do research.

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Quote from: sukamasoto on September 05, 2017, 12:24:30 PM

It's depend on gambler's religion and family support since that the most important in order to recover their mental before getting worse
Of course , it's need some time to pay their debt but with healthy mind, everything will go smooth later

That's true. If we have a healthy mind, we can have a better life. Getting worse is also depend on a person if they are not determine to stop in gambling. They get buried in debt because of their addiction in gambling. If we have a good mind, we will not going to think of having a loan just to play gambling.

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Quote from: swissguy on September 05, 2017, 06:00:26 AM

Whenever i remember my bad times i remember those peoples also who lost their everything in this gambling addiction. i want to know what you think about such peoples and how they need to survive after so much losses in their life.
I personally knows some people who are in big debt and they even cant recover that debt and tries to commit suicide every time . so guys can you tell me whats the best solution for them regain their happiness in their life ?

This thread is only for those peoples opinion who faced such situations and recovered or atleast know how to tackle such situations in easy way ( btw i know its not easy )

No doubt that the best thing they can do is to seek professional help, both for mental health and financially.

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Honestly there is no way for help those who have this problem, that's why we always tell to other people better not to loan money for gambling because you will be in problem. maybe the only way for you to keep alive, easy never think if you had lose much money in gambling

It is a sad and harsh reality indeed. They could have been saved if they were at the verge of destruction but they are already destroyed so nothing much can be done for such people. Goodness can only save them. However, it can be a lesson for other gamblers, specially the new ones.

Gambling is very addictive and fatal. It is very funny to see people digging their graves by their own hands by gambling with all the wealth. Above that, they speed up the process by burrowing money from others. It is like adding fuel into fire. I hope people understand that how much harmful gambling can be for them and their close ones.

It is a harsh reality. People make unexpected obvious mistakes. Gamblers know that they can end up losing all their capital or assets but still they don't stop playing this game. It is only because their greed is dominating their senses. After losing all their wealth, desperation is the next emotion that overtakes they and they start borrowing from others.

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Quote from: zergenyt09 on September 29, 2017, 09:45:59 AM

Quote from: fuer44 on September 24, 2017, 03:00:20 AM

in my opinion, when gamblers lose in gambling and they still want to keep playing, they will do various ways to keep playing. one of them is by way of debt. they dare to debt, because they believe will win and can return their debt. but in my opinion, if lost at the moment, it is better to just retreat, dont continues the gambling with the way of debt.

Once indulged deeply into something, it becomes hard to shake off old habits. This is the problem with addicts. They can't live without their daily doze. Gambling is very addictive. Moreover, it makes a person greedy also when he wins two or three times.

Due to these two reasons, gamblers do not quit the game and keep on going in loss. They should get control over their greed.

This is possible gamblers are in debt just to continued to play even suffered of losing. This means a persons wanted to play even with debt are becoming addicted into gambling. In this case, this must be resolve and control the emotions in playing gambling.

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Quote from: fuer44 on September 24, 2017, 03:00:20 AM

in my opinion, when gamblers lose in gambling and they still want to keep playing, they will do various ways to keep playing. one of them is by way of debt. they dare to debt, because they believe will win and can return their debt. but in my opinion, if lost at the moment, it is better to just retreat, dont continues the gambling with the way of debt.

Once indulged deeply into something, it becomes hard to shake off old habits. This is the problem with addicts. They can't live without their daily doze. Gambling is very addictive. Moreover, it makes a person greedy also when he wins two or three times.

Due to these two reasons, gamblers do not quit the game and keep on going in loss. They should get control over their greed.

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Quote from: audaciousbeing on September 25, 2017, 01:36:21 PM

If anybody is in debt because of gambling the it's your fault and no one else, not the community and surely not the site you play but its basically because of lack of self control. When I hear people run into debt because of gambling, I just imagine how that is possible if there is self restraint.

I don't think I can get involved to the point of betting all that I have, and then still go out to borrow from people to still play. When someone do something like that, they should be sentenced to remand homes for the rest of their lives because they have not only fail themselves but also failed humanity and so they lose the morality to live among rational thinking individuals.

I think that's taking it way too far, science hasn't even figured out why some people get addicted while others do not.

You should have some sympathy for people who are suffering to addiction, I know they do a lot of damage to their environment and/or family, but I don't think it's 100% due to 'lack of self control'.

People should who are that addicted to gambling should have the chance to get treatment for their addiction and have a chance to recover and pay everything back or file for bankruptcy.

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Quote from: swissguy on September 05, 2017, 06:00:26 AM

Whenever i remember my bad times i remember those peoples also who lost their everything in this gambling addiction. i want to know what you think about such peoples and how they need to survive after so much losses in their life.
I personally knows some people who are in big debt and they even cant recover that debt and tries to commit suicide every time . so guys can you tell me whats the best solution for them regain their happiness in their life ?

This thread is only for those peoples opinion who faced such situations and recovered or atleast know how to tackle such situations in easy way ( btw i know its not easy )

To all people who have been experiencing this kind of situation I am sincerely want you to know that you can still get up and go back on track on life. As For me, I didn't get a loan for gambling, everything that I've wasted on gambling is hard earned money that's why the emotional suffering is very long and tiring but it is only a simple decision that changed my life and that is to STOP and from that decision everything changed.

For the people who are in debt. Decide to stop playing, find a regular job and slowly pay your debts, yes it is really hard but i assure you from that decision you will start to change your life slowly, it will be worth it.

We are always one decision away from change. If a person is living even after devastation, that means he is capable of moving on. To be very honest, I have never ever experienced great or small money loss but I have lost a lot of important people in my life. So, I know what sufferings are in real. We all have money problems but humans have the choice to be what they want to be.

It's kinda weird to link the lost of money to lost of love ones. I would say they are quite different. No matter what you do, you cannot bring back a dead loved one. But if money is lost, there is always a chance you can get it back and likely a lot more can be had. I dont think it is a good analogy to compare money with love ones. That's just sad.

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Quote from: rjbtc2017 on September 25, 2017, 10:07:47 PM

Quote from: swissguy on September 05, 2017, 06:00:26 AM

Whenever i remember my bad times i remember those peoples also who lost their everything in this gambling addiction. i want to know what you think about such peoples and how they need to survive after so much losses in their life.
I personally knows some people who are in big debt and they even cant recover that debt and tries to commit suicide every time . so guys can you tell me whats the best solution for them regain their happiness in their life ?

This thread is only for those peoples opinion who faced such situations and recovered or atleast know how to tackle such situations in easy way ( btw i know its not easy )

To all people who have been experiencing this kind of situation I am sincerely want you to know that you can still get up and go back on track on life. As For me, I didn't get a loan for gambling, everything that I've wasted on gambling is hard earned money that's why the emotional suffering is very long and tiring but it is only a simple decision that changed my life and that is to STOP and from that decision everything changed.

For the people who are in debt. Decide to stop playing, find a regular job and slowly pay your debts, yes it is really hard but i assure you from that decision you will start to change your life slowly, it will be worth it.

We are always one decision away from change. If a person is living even after devastation, that means he is capable of moving on. To be very honest, I have never ever experienced great or small money loss but I have lost a lot of important people in my life. So, I know what sufferings are in real. We all have money problems but humans have the choice to be what they want to be.

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Quote from: rjbtc2017 on September 25, 2017, 10:07:47 PM

Quote from: swissguy on September 05, 2017, 06:00:26 AM

Whenever i remember my bad times i remember those peoples also who lost their everything in this gambling addiction. i want to know what you think about such peoples and how they need to survive after so much losses in their life.
I personally knows some people who are in big debt and they even cant recover that debt and tries to commit suicide every time . so guys can you tell me whats the best solution for them regain their happiness in their life ?

This thread is only for those peoples opinion who faced such situations and recovered or atleast know how to tackle such situations in easy way ( btw i know its not easy )

To all people who have been experiencing this kind of situation I am sincerely want you to know that you can still get up and go back on track on life. As For me, I didn't get a loan for gambling, everything that I've wasted on gambling is hard earned money that's why the emotional suffering is very long and tiring but it is only a simple decision that changed my life and that is to STOP and from that decision everything changed.

For the people who are in debt. Decide to stop playing, find a regular job and slowly pay your debts, yes it is really hard but i assure you from that decision you will start to change your life slowly, it will be worth it.

I am really happy that you have come a very long way and been able to realize the fact i.e. gambling is causing you more harm than good. In your case, you haven’t taken debt from the bank or a close friend after repeated failures but still, it would take some time to forget the losses and move on in life with some positive vibes about your future. Al I have to say in the end is that one must not be as crazy to take loans and try his luck over and over again when there is no guarantee to win.

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Gaining happiness from big loss isn't an instant thing, it's a process that someone needs to go through. The feeling of being a depressed gambler is hard to deal with.

If you are aware on this feeling or you are experiencing this right now, you must go seek your parents as they are the one that will understand you and will never blame you with your wrong doings.

They are the best people that can give you happiness, trust me.

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Quote from: Monnt on September 26, 2017, 05:12:25 PM

Quote from: fuer44 on September 24, 2017, 03:00:20 AM

in my opinion, when gamblers lose in gambling and they still want to keep playing, they will do various ways to keep playing. one of them is by way of debt. they dare to debt, because they believe will win and can return their debt. but in my opinion, if lost at the moment, it is better to just retreat, dont continues the gambling with the way of debt.

When a person fails to win the desired amount o money and keeps on losing again and again, then he undergoes a massive amount of depression and guilt as well. It becomes so difficult for him to digest the reality and therefore he opts for taking debts to continue playing gambling as he hopes to win back all his losses as well as the additional profits in favor to continue with his habit.

The cycle continues if he did won such borrowed money from other and could able to repay those but what if we do mention on the opposite side which is what if he lose those money?For sure he would increase or add up more on his depression which would lead up again on borrowing money for hoping that he would be lucky this time.No, its really a bad idea on having or thinking on this kind of solution instead you are making or arranging things up you would surely mess it instead.

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Quote from: fuer44 on September 24, 2017, 03:00:20 AM

in my opinion, when gamblers lose in gambling and they still want to keep playing, they will do various ways to keep playing. one of them is by way of debt. they dare to debt, because they believe will win and can return their debt. but in my opinion, if lost at the moment, it is better to just retreat, dont continues the gambling with the way of debt.

When a person fails to win the desired amount o money and keeps on losing again and again, then he undergoes a massive amount of depression and guilt as well. It becomes so difficult for him to digest the reality and therefore he opts for taking debts to continue playing gambling as he hopes to win back all his losses as well as the additional profits in favor to continue with his habit.

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I am not one of those who had been in big debt due to gambling but i know someone very dear to me who had these kind of experience. It wasn't that easy. There were restless days and nights and even nightmares especially when you have debt on some sort of sindicate. But it will be helpful when your family, relatives or even friends would keep themselves at your back even after these time when you seriously messed up your life. They will be your strenght in finding a way to fulfill the obligations that you have because of your addiction, but expect that avoiding gambling as a way wouldn't be as easy as you think. It was already part of your system and it was you who are in debt can stop yourself from gambling again aside from the advices, encouragement, help and support that you will get from your loved ones..

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Quote from: 2hot2handle on September 22, 2017, 12:02:50 PM

One of our family member is in debt right now because of gambling and as much as I want to help out of it I want him to learn from his mistakes and hoping the one day he will not let his gambling addiction in control of his life. He lost every property he have now and I really feel bad about it.

first piece of advice, never give them a free pass out of their situation. this serves no purpose but to enable them to continue. of course, they might not take it as such and go on to turn over a new leaf, but with most addicts, this is almost never the case. helping them out of their situation is handing them a free pass; you drag them out of the hole theyve dug themselves into, and they don't learn, their mind is focused on feeding their addiction and nothing else. if anything, theyll use to chance to just repeat their mistake on a larger scale, until no one else can help them. by all means, no harm in giving them a push in the right direction, but don't give them a free pass, especially for family and friends. big rule to follow with money: never loan to friends or family, chances are you wont get it back.

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we know that many people in debt because of gambling and their property is sold because of gambling this person is addicted. and this person is needed of rehabilitation by advice and counselling. and when this person is close to you give an advice, and take him to the groups where he will enjoyable with pleasure and bring happiness to forget it, and she realizes her mistake.

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Quote from: emberbekas on September 25, 2017, 09:39:02 PM

Quote from: szpalata on September 25, 2017, 05:43:21 PM

Quote from: JL421 on September 25, 2017, 12:00:51 PM

Quote from: Jasad on September 18, 2017, 12:07:52 PM

If we are depressed by debt, maybe we can do a smart little cunning way. Let's borrow money from friends, siblings or anyone else to pay off your old debts. Maybe you still have a debt but at least you have more time to pay.

This is no solution to any debts we are just building more debts for yourself if you want to clear a debt you need to sell of your assets or find a better job taking another loan to pay a previous debt will keep on increasing and finally you will have no option but to quit your life or go to the jail

Maybe he's talking about borrowing from friends without interest and that way you can easily offset your old debts but create a new one which you'd have a longer time to pay. That's my understanding of what he said.

Paying a loan with another loans (even though with no interest at all ) won't help us by the way. We should make money through hard work to know how hard to get money is. Therefore, it will give us a valuable lesson. In the hope, next time we won't go to the same hole again.

Yeah that is correct, and people that try to gamble so they can pay debts, or they think that it could be their ticket out of poverty. But the problem is that is just an illusion gambling has been showing us. It is a mirage. We cannot rely on what gambling shows because it is all too good to be true. The chances anyone can win and be rich just like that is so slim.

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Quote from: swissguy on September 05, 2017, 06:00:26 AM

Whenever i remember my bad times i remember those peoples also who lost their everything in this gambling addiction. i want to know what you think about such peoples and how they need to survive after so much losses in their life.
I personally knows some people who are in big debt and they even cant recover that debt and tries to commit suicide every time . so guys can you tell me whats the best solution for them regain their happiness in their life ?

This thread is only for those peoples opinion who faced such situations and recovered or atleast know how to tackle such situations in easy way ( btw i know its not easy )

To all people who have been experiencing this kind of situation I am sincerely want you to know that you can still get up and go back on track on life. As For me, I didn't get a loan for gambling, everything that I've wasted on gambling is hard earned money that's why the emotional suffering is very long and tiring but it is only a simple decision that changed my life and that is to STOP and from that decision everything changed.

For the people who are in debt. Decide to stop playing, find a regular job and slowly pay your debts, yes it is really hard but i assure you from that decision you will start to change your life slowly, it will be worth it.

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Quote from: szpalata on September 25, 2017, 05:43:21 PM

Quote from: JL421 on September 25, 2017, 12:00:51 PM

Quote from: Jasad on September 18, 2017, 12:07:52 PM

If we are depressed by debt, maybe we can do a smart little cunning way. Let's borrow money from friends, siblings or anyone else to pay off your old debts. Maybe you still have a debt but at least you have more time to pay.

This is no solution to any debts we are just building more debts for yourself if you want to clear a debt you need to sell of your assets or find a better job taking another loan to pay a previous debt will keep on increasing and finally you will have no option but to quit your life or go to the jail

Maybe he's talking about borrowing from friends without interest and that way you can easily offset your old debts but create a new one which you'd have a longer time to pay. That's my understanding of what he said.

Paying a loan with another loans (even though with no interest at all ) won't help us by the way. We should make money through hard work to know how hard to get money is. Therefore, it will give us a valuable lesson. In the hope, next time we won't go to the same hole again.

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Quote from: JL421 on September 25, 2017, 12:00:51 PM

Quote from: Jasad on September 18, 2017, 12:07:52 PM

If we are depressed by debt, maybe we can do a smart little cunning way. Let's borrow money from friends, siblings or anyone else to pay off your old debts. Maybe you still have a debt but at least you have more time to pay.

This is no solution to any debts we are just building more debts for yourself if you want to clear a debt you need to sell of your assets or find a better job taking another loan to pay a previous debt will keep on increasing and finally you will have no option but to quit your life or go to the jail

Maybe he's talking about borrowing from friends without interest and that way you can easily offset your old debts but create a new one which you'd have a longer time to pay. That's my understanding of what he said.

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