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April 04, 2016, 01:29:15 AM
Good news! Qora is about to have a new developer joining the dev team (someone who has been contributing to qora code base and providing important consultation in the past). I'm going to confirm all the details before making an announcement.
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April 03, 2016, 01:29:47 AM
In regards to the development talent unfortunately one of the main developers (@agran) is already leaving the project and @vbcs has been primarily a CIYAM developer since starting work on AT (well before AT was added to Qora).
IMO if he is working on a clone of the Qora project then actually it should benefit Qora as he will become more familiar with the source code and be able to contribute more to the project.
From what I gather it was actually the vision of @Vrontis to split Qora into several blockchains that each specialised in one area (in this case the social network area) but if the community is going to become divided over this then we won't pursue it.
The intention behind this idea is to eventually have numerous blockchains that all specialise in different things but can be bound together with AT being the "glue" (and ACCT for moving coins between them).
IMO if he is working on a clone of the Qora project then actually it should benefit Qora as he will become more familiar with the source code and be able to contribute more to the project.
From what I gather it was actually the vision of @Vrontis to split Qora into several blockchains that each specialised in one area (in this case the social network area) but if the community is going to become divided over this then we won't pursue it.
The intention behind this idea is to eventually have numerous blockchains that all specialise in different things but can be bound together with AT being the "glue" (and ACCT for moving coins between them).
April 03, 2016, 12:58:37 AM
I've been asked by a few forum members about how a Qora fork would differ from Qora itself and I think that is a very important point to consider (as to whether this should be supported or not and I'm not going to be pushing for this but just providing some ideas).
My thinking is along the lines of perhaps addressing the gap that was left after the basic failure of the Diaspora project (so maybe have the focus being on the "social network" aspect).
IMO charging fees for posting blog entries isn't going to work so the fork would be support a different approach that would allow blog entries to be created without fees (anti-spamming would be handled in another way). The concept of private blogs (with subscriptions being controlled by the creator) is something I think would be useful to add.
Also I think it would be nice to have a decentralised forum - so that might be another key aspect.
I also don't think that such a fork would bother with Assets or Names and its voting system would be according to minting accounts rather than POS (so it should end up being quite a different beast).
My thinking is along the lines of perhaps addressing the gap that was left after the basic failure of the Diaspora project (so maybe have the focus being on the "social network" aspect).
IMO charging fees for posting blog entries isn't going to work so the fork would be support a different approach that would allow blog entries to be created without fees (anti-spamming would be handled in another way). The concept of private blogs (with subscriptions being controlled by the creator) is something I think would be useful to add.
Also I think it would be nice to have a decentralised forum - so that might be another key aspect.
I also don't think that such a fork would bother with Assets or Names and its voting system would be according to minting accounts rather than POS (so it should end up being quite a different beast).
Having read this makes me think it would be much better to improve qora rather than fork it for a new project, even though some of the features you would like to adopt may not be able to be implemented with the curreny qora chain (not sure). Part of me thinks this because I would rather see development continue on qora without diluting the talent.
Also, I don't think a small fee (what is it, 1 qora) for a blog post is more than people are willing to contribute. At the same time, of course qora is open source, and you can do what you want. I think you would also likely have an automatic community built in if you distributed based on the "snapshot" of qora holders.
I agree diluting the available talent is a concern. Can CIYAM confirm whether his new blockchain project would even work with PoS or not? My understanding was account creation requires PoW to avoid spam, but after that the new blockchain doesn't require a coin to function (i.e. the reference to Diaspora project requiring users to pay which isn't good for adoption)
As the CIYAM Developers have been involved with Qora for some time we are now considering the idea of perhaps creating a clone of Qora that works using the principles of the CIYAM blockchain (which is not POS but instead a POW for account creation that then works on hash-chains for block creation) as a trial of the concept.
The final CIYAM blockchain won't be a coin and if this Qora clone is actually created then it won't be owned or controlled by CIYAM but instead according to rules that will be part of the coin's creation (perhaps involving those Qora holders prior to the block that was published before this post).
April 03, 2016, 12:50:55 AM
I've been asked by a few forum members about how a Qora fork would differ from Qora itself and I think that is a very important point to consider (as to whether this should be supported or not and I'm not going to be pushing for this but just providing some ideas).
My thinking is along the lines of perhaps addressing the gap that was left after the basic failure of the Diaspora project (so maybe have the focus being on the "social network" aspect).
IMO charging fees for posting blog entries isn't going to work so the fork would be support a different approach that would allow blog entries to be created without fees (anti-spamming would be handled in another way). The concept of private blogs (with subscriptions being controlled by the creator) is something I think would be useful to add.
Also I think it would be nice to have a decentralised forum - so that might be another key aspect.
I also don't think that such a fork would bother with Assets or Names and its voting system would be according to minting accounts rather than POS (so it should end up being quite a different beast).
My thinking is along the lines of perhaps addressing the gap that was left after the basic failure of the Diaspora project (so maybe have the focus being on the "social network" aspect).
IMO charging fees for posting blog entries isn't going to work so the fork would be support a different approach that would allow blog entries to be created without fees (anti-spamming would be handled in another way). The concept of private blogs (with subscriptions being controlled by the creator) is something I think would be useful to add.
Also I think it would be nice to have a decentralised forum - so that might be another key aspect.
I also don't think that such a fork would bother with Assets or Names and its voting system would be according to minting accounts rather than POS (so it should end up being quite a different beast).
Having read this makes me think it would be much better to improve qora rather than fork it for a new project, even though some of the features you would like to adopt may not be able to be implemented with the current qora chain (not sure). Part of me thinks this because I would rather see development continue on qora without diluting the talent.
Also, I don't think a small fee (what is it, 1 qora) for a blog post is more than people are willing to contribute. At the same time, of course qora is open source, and you can do what you want. I think you would also likely have an automatic community built in if you distributed based on the "snapshot" of qora holders.
April 02, 2016, 04:58:36 PM
Although perhaps unknown to many on this forum the CIYAM Developers have been developing a new kind of blockchain technology for the last couple of years (it isn't ready for use yet but is getting close to completion).
As the CIYAM Developers have been involved with Qora for some time we are now considering the idea of perhaps creating a clone of Qora that works using the principles of the CIYAM blockchain (which is not POS but instead a POW for account creation that then works on hash-chains for block creation) as a trial of the concept.
The final CIYAM blockchain won't be a coin and if this Qora clone is actually created then it won't be owned or controlled by CIYAM but instead according to rules that will be part of the coin's creation (perhaps involving those Qora holders prior to the block that was published before this post).
Such a clone would of course support AT and ACCT between Qora and itself (and Burst) so IMO it should actually help both Qora and Burst.
Also to perhaps put things in perspective (as to why I am suggesting a clone) please research Diaspora (which was a failed attempt at a decentralised social network). IMO you can't charge people to create blogs or web pages (as it will never take off) so you need a way that allows that to be free (which requires controlling the amount of accounts that can be created to avoid attacks).
As the CIYAM Developers have been involved with Qora for some time we are now considering the idea of perhaps creating a clone of Qora that works using the principles of the CIYAM blockchain (which is not POS but instead a POW for account creation that then works on hash-chains for block creation) as a trial of the concept.
The final CIYAM blockchain won't be a coin and if this Qora clone is actually created then it won't be owned or controlled by CIYAM but instead according to rules that will be part of the coin's creation (perhaps involving those Qora holders prior to the block that was published before this post).
Such a clone would of course support AT and ACCT between Qora and itself (and Burst) so IMO it should actually help both Qora and Burst.
Also to perhaps put things in perspective (as to why I am suggesting a clone) please research Diaspora (which was a failed attempt at a decentralised social network). IMO you can't charge people to create blogs or web pages (as it will never take off) so you need a way that allows that to be free (which requires controlling the amount of accounts that can be created to avoid attacks).
I wonder if all the people buying Qora in the last few days noticed the small print, 'Qora holders prior to the block that was published before this post'
April 02, 2016, 01:53:13 PM
Hi all,
Can one of you tell me how to backup my wallet in a secure manner ?
Is backing up the wallet folder enough or is backing up the seed enough ?
What's the best practice according to you guys.
I want to store everything offline preferrably on an encrypted memory stick.
What are your recommendations.
Thanks.
Can one of you tell me how to backup my wallet in a secure manner ?
Is backing up the wallet folder enough or is backing up the seed enough ?
What's the best practice according to you guys.
I want to store everything offline preferrably on an encrypted memory stick.
What are your recommendations.
Thanks.
The good thing about Qora is that everything is stored on Blockchain, so nothing will ever be lost, and no backup is needed. As vbcs has already mentioned, all you need is the "seed" and the "password" that go along with it, then you will be able to recover all your wallets & accounts on any computer/device you wish.
PS: You can do an experiment yourself, on a 2nd computer, download the qora client, enter your seed, and enter the number of wallets you had created (all your wallets with funds in them), let the client sync... as soon as it finishes syncing, all your funds should be available for your use.
Just a note - the password is only used to encrypt the local wallet folder so you dont have to keep it. When restoring from seed you can choose whatever password you like.
April 02, 2016, 01:29:32 PM
Hi all,
Can one of you tell me how to backup my wallet in a secure manner ?
Is backing up the wallet folder enough or is backing up the seed enough ?
What's the best practice according to you guys.
I want to store everything offline preferrably on an encrypted memory stick.
What are your recommendations.
Thanks.
Can one of you tell me how to backup my wallet in a secure manner ?
Is backing up the wallet folder enough or is backing up the seed enough ?
What's the best practice according to you guys.
I want to store everything offline preferrably on an encrypted memory stick.
What are your recommendations.
Thanks.
The good thing about Qora is that everything is stored on Blockchain, so nothing will ever be lost, and no backup is needed. As vbcs has already mentioned, all you need is the "seed" and the "password" that go along with it, then you will be able to recover all your wallets & accounts on any computer/device you wish.
PS: You can do an experiment yourself, on a 2nd computer, download the qora client, enter your seed, and enter the number of wallets you had created (all your wallets with funds in them), let the client sync... as soon as it finishes syncing, all your funds should be available for your use.
April 02, 2016, 12:44:33 PM
Hi all,
Can one of you tell me how to backup my wallet in a secure manner ?
Is backing up the wallet folder enough or is backing up the seed enough ?
What's the best practice according to you guys.
I want to store everything offline preferrably on an encrypted memory stick.
What are your recommendations.
Thanks.
You only have to keep the master seed somewhere safe. Maybe on a piece of paper.
You can get the master seed from there: http://127.0.0.1:9085/wallet/seed
April 02, 2016, 08:40:22 AM
You can also try to run the old version and recover your seed using the console http://api.qora.org/#seed
Solved. Thank you very much.
April 02, 2016, 07:52:25 AM
Hi all,
Can one of you tell me how to backup my wallet in a secure manner ?
Is backing up the wallet folder enough or is backing up the seed enough ?
What's the best practice according to you guys.
I want to store everything offline preferrably on an encrypted memory stick.
What are your recommendations.
Thanks.
April 02, 2016, 07:36:13 AM
ATFunding asset was created to fund CIYAM developers for implementing AT and ACCT between Qora AND BURST . Any considerations rewarding some of Qora clone coins to these people who supported AT implementation from the begining ?
Although no such details have even yet been discussed it is likely that offers for initial minting accounts would be taking that into consideration (ability to run a node 24x7 will be a key factor also).
Also note that any "coins" that comes from blocks that I personally mint in such a clone will be donated back to other minters (probably via an infinite loop AT or maybe an AT that results in some sort of random extra minting reward).
April 02, 2016, 06:17:51 AM
The wallet crashed when I use the old(Qora-V7 at May 2014) wallet directory to replace the new wallet. So how can I get back my wallet? Actually, right now I just have the wallet files, but I forgot the seed. PS. I remembered the password.
Make sure you save your wallet at a safe place. You can then try to make a fresh install of the new version, and just copy the wallet into your installation dir (universal version) and try to start form scratch. That should work.
I use version Qora_v0.25.1.zip. After sync, I deleted the wallet directory, and then put the old wallet directory there, and can't start it successfully.
So I deleted the data directory, restart it again, however, it failed too.
You can also try to run the old version and recover your seed using the console http://api.qora.org/#seed
April 02, 2016, 06:07:22 AM
The wallet crashed when I use the old(Qora-V7 at May 2014) wallet directory to replace the new wallet. So how can I get back my wallet? Actually, right now I just have the wallet files, but I forgot the seed. PS. I remembered the password.
Make sure you save your wallet at a safe place. You can then try to make a fresh install of the new version, and just copy the wallet into your installation dir (universal version) and try to start form scratch. That should work.
I use version Qora_v0.25.1.zip. After sync, I deleted the wallet directory, and then put the old wallet directory there, and can't start it successfully.
So I deleted the data directory, restart it again, however, it failed too.
April 02, 2016, 05:59:05 AM
The wallet crashed when I use the old(Qora-V7 at May 2014) wallet directory to replace the new wallet. So how can I get back my wallet? Actually, right now I just have the wallet files, but I forgot the seed. PS. I remembered the password.
Make sure you save your wallet at a safe place. You can then try to make a fresh install of the new version, and just copy the wallet into your installation dir (universal version) and try to start form scratch. That should work.
April 02, 2016, 05:42:46 AM
The wallet crashed when I use the old(Qora-V7 at May 2014) wallet directory to replace the new wallet. So how can I get back my wallet? Actually, right now I just have the wallet files, but I forgot the seed. PS. I remembered the password.
April 02, 2016, 05:18:27 AM
I think part is just the Hype and FUD, the other portions could actually be general interest and some in for the benefits of the long term. Whatever it is, I am liking the progress of the QORA coin. 
I only have 10 million in QORA, it isn't a huge investment, however, it's more so one of the biggest I have in any current coin on the market.
I have hope for QORA, though the development side and social aspects need to improve.
I only have 10 million in QORA, it isn't a huge investment, however, it's more so one of the biggest I have in any current coin on the market.
I have hope for QORA, though the development side and social aspects need to improve.
April 02, 2016, 05:10:01 AM
Although perhaps unknown to many on this forum the CIYAM Developers have been developing a new kind of blockchain technology for the last couple of years (it isn't ready for use yet but is getting close to completion).
As the CIYAM Developers have been involved with Qora for some time we are now considering the idea of perhaps creating a clone of Qora that works using the principles of the CIYAM blockchain (which is not POS but instead a POW for account creation that then works on hash-chains for block creation) as a trial of the concept.
The final CIYAM blockchain won't be a coin and if this Qora clone is actually created then it won't be owned or controlled by CIYAM but instead according to rules that will be part of the coin's creation (perhaps involving those Qora holders prior to the block that was published before this post).
Such a clone would of course support AT and ACCT between Qora and itself (and Burst) so IMO it should actually help both Qora and Burst.
Also to perhaps put things in perspective (as to why I am suggesting a clone) please research Diaspora (which was a failed attempt at a decentralised social network). IMO you can't charge people to create blogs or web pages (as it will never take off) so you need a way that allows that to be free (which requires controlling the amount of accounts that can be created to avoid attacks).
As the CIYAM Developers have been involved with Qora for some time we are now considering the idea of perhaps creating a clone of Qora that works using the principles of the CIYAM blockchain (which is not POS but instead a POW for account creation that then works on hash-chains for block creation) as a trial of the concept.
The final CIYAM blockchain won't be a coin and if this Qora clone is actually created then it won't be owned or controlled by CIYAM but instead according to rules that will be part of the coin's creation (perhaps involving those Qora holders prior to the block that was published before this post).
Such a clone would of course support AT and ACCT between Qora and itself (and Burst) so IMO it should actually help both Qora and Burst.
Also to perhaps put things in perspective (as to why I am suggesting a clone) please research Diaspora (which was a failed attempt at a decentralised social network). IMO you can't charge people to create blogs or web pages (as it will never take off) so you need a way that allows that to be free (which requires controlling the amount of accounts that can be created to avoid attacks).
Are you still thinking of monetizing ATfunding asset ?
ATFunding asset was created to fund CIYAM developers for implementing AT and ACCT between Qora AND BURST . Any considerations rewarding some of Qora clone coins to these people who supported AT implementation from the begining ?
April 02, 2016, 01:13:24 AM
This guys is really thinking in long term or WTF is this?
https://twitter.com/BlockchainBR/status/716129719297638400
https://twitter.com/BlockchainBR/status/716129719297638400
April 01, 2016, 09:26:13 PM
I'm in as long as people report good earnings on mining.
April 01, 2016, 09:24:16 PM
I think because the coin was extremely undervalued and the project restart again a few days ago.
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