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Topic: QUICKSELLER Vs. LEGENDSTER, LIVE NOW on Pay Per View, ROUND 1 - page 4. (Read 10417 times)

sr. member
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Quickseller is off default trust again?
When/why did this happen?
It happened a few days ago. I was never given a reason however I have a feeling it had to do with this mistake :/
It was quite humorous actually. Tomatocage messaged me after I talked with him why he added you to his default trust and he told me to show examples of Quickseller's bad ratings. Well the ndnc or whatever that dude's name was happening and I quickly showed Tomatocage how Quickseller jumped too quickly to conclusions with that "scam hunt" and called out someone who was innocent and red marked him for multiple days.

Ironically, within hours Quickseller's default trust was gone.
copper member
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Quickseller is off default trust again?
When/why did this happen?
It happened a few days ago. I was never given a reason however I have a feeling it had to do with this mistake :/
legendary
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Quickseller is off default trust again?
When/why did this happen?
hero member
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Hey Techshare you watching this or are you still hung up on Vod?

Your attempt to draw me into your personal battles has failed. I have already said everything I needed to say about QS.

Yup thought as much. Pfft.
sr. member
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LOL god quickseller you are the easiest guy in the world to troll. I put you on ignore but I see you kept commenting so I put you on unignore to see what is it you are babbling about.

It was a joke, a troll. I knew that if I said three words "it was me" for who "framed" ndnc or whatever his name his, that you would then spend your life trying to prove that or wondering if I did.

I've never had business with ndnc or any interest with the guy. The only sig campaign I have and will ever use is bitmixer.io as it is automated without need to message people and all that bothersome work to get paid.

I made my signature cause despite you and others labeling me as the posterboy of scamhood around here, which makes me laugh as I continue to call out scammers when I see them, just check my feedback, I doxxed a longtime scammer not too long ago. Anyways, I made my sig cause despite that, two things
1) I run my own business now and hit 100k in sales (95k thru paypal, go figure and 5k in BTC) last week in only 5 months and it has been a nice side business for me. And yes its legal, yes its registered with the state, yes im paying taxes so dont try calling cops saying im selling drugs or something, im not.
2) Unrelated to the business I created, I do trading and have had good success over the last year or so on LBC

So yes, your rating cannot stop my success as I stated. Continue on with your delusions of thinking im the biggest scammer or framers or any of that of shit. From what i read the guy tried scamming for 0.2 BTC or some pity amount? No just no. I wouldnt waste my time over some pity amount like that. Back to ignore with you quickseller.

Seriously quickseller, do what vod did and what ive been doing outside of here, get a life. When you realize bitcointalk consumes your life as it obviously does for you, and used to for me, youll want to better yourself. I hope you realize that soon.

-the one and only
Kingofsports
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I was also thinking the same thing that I received via PM yesterday just as I was removing the negative on ndnhc:
-snip-

That one is certainly a frame job. However, the target was you. Going through it, it's fascinating how well you were played. The steps were perfect and the right amount to trigger your report.

If you're indeed looking for the person behind this - and it will be extremely difficult to do so - looking at the victim's enemies is the wrong direction. Look closer - who wants you gone, was smart enough to pull it off and most importantly knows you very well.

Well, PistolPete is quite good at finding things out...so there's now a theory that you were framed to have framed nhdnc?

Huh. I guess that could make sense...Christ this is confusing.
That is what he apparently thinks, and I would be in agreement with him prior to him telling me that.

I don't think this is conclusive proof of anything however look at reply #43 of this. Also look at Bitcoindistrubator's signature:
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But I happened to have used an address recently on purpose which was related to him. Kind of something I did on random but not to toss around any accusations, It was for something I do not wish to disclose, neither will I . The address I posted in a way was linked to ndnhc .
-snip-
He said that he intentionally posted an address that was related to ndnhc although he has never interacted with him.

Obviously most of this is just speculation, however I do think there is a non-zero possibility that I am right about this. At this point, a lot more circumstantial evidence is needed or a little more hard evidence is needed.
legendary
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First Exclusion Ever
Hey Techshare you watching this or are you still hung up on Vod?

Your attempt to draw me into your personal battles has failed. I have already said everything I needed to say about QS.
legendary
Activity: 1134
Merit: 1118
I was also thinking the same thing that I received via PM yesterday just as I was removing the negative on ndnhc:
-snip-

That one is certainly a frame job. However, the target was you. Going through it, it's fascinating how well you were played. The steps were perfect and the right amount to trigger your report.

If you're indeed looking for the person behind this - and it will be extremely difficult to do so - looking at the victim's enemies is the wrong direction. Look closer - who wants you gone, was smart enough to pull it off and most importantly knows you very well.

Well, PistolPete is quite good at finding things out...so there's now a theory that you were framed to have framed nhdnc?

Huh. I guess that could make sense...Christ this is confusing.
copper member
Activity: 2996
Merit: 2374

Serious question.

What is bad about Quickseller being on the default trust list?

With Vod going into retirement, the Bitcoin community needs someone like that.


~BCX~

I don't think there's that much bad about him, though he can be jumpy as hell to make decisions. That's my primary concern but hopefully Quickseller is moving to address that anyway. This community needs more investigation, more question-asking and less jumping to conclusions.
Well to be fair, the accusation against ndnhc was reviewed by several people after I opened it over several days. Two people agreed with my conclusion enough to leave negative trust as well. The people who were defending him were only arguing that ndnhc was too much of a 'nice guy' and he 'made too much money' to ruin his reputation over .1 BTC.

The first time anyone brought up what ultimately exonerated ndnhc was when ndnhc brought up the point that the address was posted  after the giveaway had ended. Although one other person did hint at knowing specifically that they knew ndnhc was being framed (along with that they had evidence of such), they did not specifically give the evidence of such and they did not provide (me) of any kind of warning.

Other then the ndnhc incident it is fairly rare that I am actually wrong about someone being a scammer, although sometimes I remove a negative because sufficient time has elapsed, they go on to complete successful deals, or they repay money they borrowed/stole.

I was also thinking the same thing that I received via PM yesterday just as I was removing the negative on ndnhc:
-snip-

That one is certainly a frame job. However, the target was you. Going through it, it's fascinating how well you were played. The steps were perfect and the right amount to trigger your report.

If you're indeed looking for the person behind this - and it will be extremely difficult to do so - looking at the victim's enemies is the wrong direction. Look closer - who wants you gone, was smart enough to pull it off and most importantly knows you very well.
legendary
Activity: 1456
Merit: 1081
I may write code in exchange for bitcoins.

Serious question.

What is bad about Quickseller being on the default trust list?

With Vod going into retirement, the Bitcoin community needs someone like that.

~BCX~

I don't think there's that much bad about him, though he can be jumpy as hell to make decisions. That's my primary concern but hopefully Quickseller is moving to address that anyway. This community needs more investigation, more question-asking and less jumping to conclusions.

Hopefully you're correct about him changing his overly-destructive MO.  Anyway, now that TC has removed him from default trust (again) perhaps it's time to let this thread die.  The title is more than a little inflammatory, and quite outdated at this point.
legendary
Activity: 1134
Merit: 1118

Serious question.

What is bad about Quickseller being on the default trust list?

With Vod going into retirement, the Bitcoin community needs someone like that.


~BCX~

I don't think there's that much bad about him, though he can be jumpy as hell to make decisions. That's my primary concern but hopefully Quickseller is moving to address that anyway. This community needs more investigation, more question-asking and less jumping to conclusions.
copper member
Activity: 2996
Merit: 2374

Serious question.

What is bad about Quickseller being on the default trust list?

With Vod going into retirement, the Bitcoin community needs someone like that.


~BCX~
I am curious to know how many threads we would see requesting specific moderators to be removed from being moderators if the identity of the moderator was revealed publicly any time a moderator took action against someone.
legendary
Activity: 1210
Merit: 1024

Serious question.

What is bad about Quickseller being on the default trust list?

With Vod going into retirement, the Bitcoin community needs someone like that.


~BCX~
hero member
Activity: 1778
Merit: 764
www.V.systems
..brings out a fire in me.

..why ??  Shocked Did you poop out some jalapeno sauce ??
hero member
Activity: 924
Merit: 1000
Quickseller was removed from the default trust after receiving numerous valid accusations of leaving inaccurate feedback. Him going on huge rants to defend unreasonable decisions only made things worse and created a lot of drama in the forum. Sure whatever, he spends half his day here and negs people that are likely scammer. But he has proven to be extremely irresponsible when in the default trust.

I really can't get why Tomatocage thinks that keeping Quickseller in default trust is a good idea. I know that there was a deal between Quickseller and him going on, but if it's just for trusting him personally, he also has to consider that by adding him in his trust list he puts him in default trust again. A list from wich Quickseller was removed for causing chaos because of his irresponsible actions.

Again true why would this not be a concern of Tomatocage?

It makes little sense to keeping this guy on any Default list it is just thread after thread of complaints and just look at the recent bullshit claim he just made this weekend. Run a person through the mud without even talking to the guy? Hey Techshare you watching this or are you still hung up on Vod?
legendary
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First Exclusion Ever
I have seen you exercise more of the Vod method of scambusting, where you attack anyone who provokes your suspicions with little or no evidence, shotgun style, and let God sort out the rest.

Badbear asked me to give you a chance, and I am.  I've removed your negative trust.

I hope you don't disappoint me.   Undecided   Good luck.


This is exactly the egotistical bullshit that I am talking about.
Who the bloody hell do you think you are that we need to not disappoint you...

And how dare we not listen to or live up to your standards, am I right?  Roll Eyes

I noticed that Vod had previously left me a positive trust rating agreeing with me about the trust system (most likely out of spite of Badbear informing him he would be excluding him if he did not remove his rating). Now after the perceived slight quoted above, suddenly it is gone. I think he is having issues trying to figure out whom he should spite more (in stead of perhaps examining his own behavior).
sr. member
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I've offered many times to pay him back the USD version of the BTC he sent me. He knew personally that I never kept BTC in BTC form for long, always converted to USD. At the time BTC was $125, many times I offered him the sum of $250, even at one point to get it done, $275 converted to BTC at time of agreement in exchange for dropping the scammer label and stop badmouthing me. He refused multiple times.

Look in all honesty I actually think that's a pretty fair agreement and I don't see why BigBitz doesn't take it rather than just refusing it...other than you kind of appearing to have shady morals after flat-out stating you didn't have any responsibility to send it back. Eh, I don't know. I would just take it.

From the looks of it, he did accept the deal, although if you read further down then you will see that BigBitz said that he was not going to remove his negative trust against KoS.

Also, it appears to be disputed that KoS only agreed to repay 2 BTC and not 4 BTC

Welp, RIP. That changes the game then, if he's just actively avoiding paying the money. Funny thing is Bitcoin is so low right now that he wouldn't even lose that much out of his own pocket to just pay the full 2 BTC back anyway...
No specifically I told Bigbitz once paid the $250 or $275 whatever it was that you would remove the negative trust and make a post saying that the debt or whatever he would call is settled/repaid so that I could actively reach out to those who red trusted me to consider changing / removing their feedback. Instead he goes on to tell me that he would not remove the negative trust and that i would still owe the remaining balance of 2.00 BTC - X.XX BTC (worth $250-$275) and would reach out to those who left negatives to keep it there until the full 2 BTC was repaid. So no there was no settlement and I did try my best to reach a fair agreement just get it done with.
legendary
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I've offered many times to pay him back the USD version of the BTC he sent me. He knew personally that I never kept BTC in BTC form for long, always converted to USD. At the time BTC was $125, many times I offered him the sum of $250, even at one point to get it done, $275 converted to BTC at time of agreement in exchange for dropping the scammer label and stop badmouthing me. He refused multiple times.

Look in all honesty I actually think that's a pretty fair agreement and I don't see why BigBitz doesn't take it rather than just refusing it...other than you kind of appearing to have shady morals after flat-out stating you didn't have any responsibility to send it back. Eh, I don't know. I would just take it.

From the looks of it, he did accept the deal, although if you read further down then you will see that BigBitz said that he was not going to remove his negative trust against KoS.

Also, it appears to be disputed that KoS only agreed to repay 2 BTC and not 4 BTC

Welp, RIP. That changes the game then, if he's just actively avoiding paying the money. Funny thing is Bitcoin is so low right now that he wouldn't even lose that much out of his own pocket to just pay the full 2 BTC back anyway...
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imardern
JustAGuyFromTexas
YouCrazyBro
BitcoinDistributor
whatsbitcoin2
Kingofsports
Kingofsports2
Bitcoingirly123

73.39.221.39
206.196.184.90
???106.216.231.233???
What exactly is this list? Do you happen to have a copy of the dumped DB? It appears that among other things, if these accounts really can be linked back to KoS, that the account JustAGuyFromTexas had tried to send a fake escrow contract from DannyHamilton, which would mean that KoS is more then a one-time scammer as he claims.
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Quickseller was removed from the default trust after receiving numerous valid accusations of leaving inaccurate feedback.
Do you care to point out these threads and/or posts that back up these statements?
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Him going on huge rants
Are you sure about this? Again please point out specific posts made by me.
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to defend unreasonable decisions
What specific unreasonable decisions have I made?

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I know that there was a deal between Quickseller and him going on,
What deal was this? If you are referring to a deal that TC is escrowing then I would point out that there are plenty of people that TC has escrowed for. If you are referring to some other deal then why don't you provide some kind of evidence of this?

I'm sure you remember the time that there were about 10 or so posts in the meta, most of wich were reports about inaccurate feedback you had left. Badbear removed you from his trust list shortly after some specific topics started gaining traction and receiving responses from more prominent members.

Want me to provide 'evidence' of you going on huge rants to defend said inaccurate ratings? Well you kind of do this nearly every time, but here's one still:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/quicksellers-feedback-on-my-account-1065347

As of what I refer to a 'deal' between you and Tomatocage, yes I was talking about the escrow. I'm aware that he offers escrow services openly. I just find it a bit odd that you went in an escrow transaction with him shortly after being removed from default trust and next thing we know is him having you added in his trust list.
The nature freedom of speech is that anyone can make any claim they want with or without there being any legitimacy to such claim. Feel free to find a thread that claims that I left an inaccurate negative rating, along with evidence that such rating was in fact inaccurate.

The rating I left in the referenced thread was never a negative rating, although the comment that I left is factually accurate.

I guess you are free to speculate that the ~.07 that TC will receive for the escrow fee is enough for him to compromise his interrogatory and sell a spot on default trust. I can say with a good amount of certainty that TC does not sell positions on the default trust network, however if spots were to be sold they would likely be sold for a lot more then .07 BTC. Also, I have used TC as escrow a number of other times.
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