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legendary
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December 09, 2023, 06:09:36 AM
#91
Has anyone sent a message informing him of this thread or asking him to defend himself?
I'm pretty sure he's seen the red tag on his account, which links to this topic.
My conclusion one way or another: Ratimov is gone.


From everything I've read on this topic, I can only say that I'm surprised that everyone is still dealing with Ratimov or whatever it's called today, while I'm absolutely sure that the person behind that account has at least a few more high-ranking accounts on this forum and that topics like this actually benefit him much more than they harm him.

I also do not doubt that the same person is still behind that account, but considering all the procedures and actions he did to destroy that account, this alleged sale is only the last in a series of successful deceptions.

While we here are wondering whether his account is in someone else's hands or not, I believe that he is proud of having deceived the majority once again - in other words, he is just continuing what he has been doing since the first day - and as I can see, people still have great sympathy for him - merits seem to buy loyalty no matter what.
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December 09, 2023, 05:29:13 AM
#90
Over time, having reached a certain level of fame, one might say becoming famous on the forum, people may experience changes in behavior because we all change and nothing remains the same. Views on familiar things, thoughts and attitudes towards everything also change, which can result in changes in the manner of communication, as well as in the social circle. This is the well-known effect of “star fever” - having reached a certain level of heights, people move away from their previous circle of people. I have no idea what happened to Ratimov’s account (I’m not going to justify or blame), but your assumptions alone will not be enough. More substantial evidence is required to confirm the transfer or sale of an account.


I think this is even more significant evidence if you do not have enough of my arrguments.
Why would he do all this if he wanted to continue to write and earn on the signatures?


I see he also changed his password and email today...
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It's interesting that after all this circus he remained in the same campaign
Now all that's left is changing the payment address for his signature campaign Tongue

So let's make a sum-up of recent events:

- this topic exposes all Ratimov / Symmetrick's shenanigans from past years
- many DT and non-DT users distrust him or stop trusting him and, eventually, he is kicked out of DT and his DT strength goes from +13 to -9
- he starts a mass purge of his old posts and topics, possibly some with plagiarism evidence, involving also in his actions the 2 Russian mods which he fools into becoming his garbage men, until theymos puts a stop to this (it was too late anyway)
- he deletes all his left feedbacks, retracts all his support for flags and wipes his Trust list
- stops posting in international sections and resumes only to Russian local board
- stops earning merits with lightning speed; stops sending merits with lightning speed (if you check his merit activity you can see that lately he sent some merits at intervals of ~one week)
- changes his name
- changes his email and password.

What do all these seem like?

Add to all these that meanwhile he also was demoted from Merit Source position and cancels a 0.0435 BTC sponsorship with a few days before he is supposed to make the payment (after benefiting one year from the reputation and popularity gained by saying that he is the sponsor of that contest).


Then, for "clearing" the account even more, I'd also apply for a name change. This did not depend only on him, but theymos was generous so we can say this step was also Checked..

I'd eliminate any negative feedbacks I left in the past, thus there would be low chances for other rants to appear to my "new" account and jeopardize a possible deal with a customer, which may not be interested om an account involved in accusations, beefs with other users etc. Checked.

I'd be mostly inactive for avoiding other conflicts or, if I needed to be a bit active I'd remain inside my local board, where less people would see what I'm doing. Checked.

I'd cancel any sponsorship, as no potential client for my account would be interested in buying the account with a debt of 0.0435 BTC. Checked.

I'd change my username and password. Checked.

Eventually, I'd also enroll in a better paying campaign, thus the account would look even more appealing for being bought. Checked.

What's there more to say? Ratimov Symmetrick checked all the above criteria, which are common sense for someone trying to obtain a very good price for his account. Let's not forget, this not an ordinary Legendary account, but fourth most merited account on the forum. (Of course, a client would never be informed that those merits were made in thousands by copy-paste and plagiarism, but that's another discussion.)





When changing the owner, all these actions are logical.
legendary
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December 09, 2023, 05:04:17 AM
#89
In recent messages talked with me as if we had never communicated before.But we had a lot of disputes and communication. Anyone for whom the native language is Russian will notice changes in the style of writing messages.These are not only my thoughts in Russian local.

Of course, this is not strong evidence, so I created a topic to attract the attention of more experienced users
Over time, having reached a certain level of fame, one might say becoming famous on the forum, people may experience changes in behavior because we all change and nothing remains the same. Views on familiar things, thoughts and attitudes towards everything also change, which can result in changes in the manner of communication, as well as in the social circle. This is the well-known effect of “star fever” - having reached a certain level of heights, people move away from their previous circle of people. I have no idea what happened to Ratimov’s account (I’m not going to justify or blame), but your assumptions alone will not be enough. More substantial evidence is required to confirm the transfer or sale of an account.
legendary
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December 09, 2023, 04:42:33 AM
#88
IF it's true, then we'll see first case of sold account with merit source status.
Man oh man, I'm just starting to read this thread and I see it's already gone quite a number of pages, so I'll probably add to my post here as I learn more.  And yeah, I think this would be the first case of a merit source account changing hands.  Can you imagine how dangerous that would be if it went undiscovered?  Jesus.  I shall continue reading....

Evidence is required for this charge. So far I see the subjective opinion of one user from the locale board #10.0
Lol.  I've thus far read as far as your post and I'm seeing more evidence than I've had in the past to justify tagging other members for selling/buying accounts.  The only other possibility is that Ratimov is pretending to be someone else by misusing the Russian language, but does that make any sense?  Not to me.

merits seem to buy loyalty no matter what.
You know, I never really thought about it but unfortunately you're right.  Rank does as well, as does being on DT.  My gut is telling me it shouldn't be this way for a community based on a shared passion for a form of money that eliminates the need for trust (of a 3rd party) and which ought to be comprised of very skeptical individuals, not ones prone to blindly trusting someone based on their statistics on a discussion forum.
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December 09, 2023, 04:37:47 AM
#87
Has anyone sent a message informing him of this thread or asking him to defend himself?
I'm pretty sure he's seen the red tag on his account, which links to this topic.

My conclusion one way or another: Ratimov is gone.
legendary
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December 08, 2023, 03:13:03 PM
#86
This thread blew up a lot more than I ever expected tbh. How big was he in the community? It seems like he did a lot of things already and has been here for years too.
That means you have set a low standard for this case. Symmetrick is behind theymos (Administrator Forum) in terms of earn merit. He is one of the famous and phenomenal users, but has also become controversial recently. Symmetrick is also the most generous merit source so far in his service, he is ranked 7th on that large list.

I had my doubts about whether Symmetrick had changed hands, but he didn't respond to any of the community's questions so the suspicions were growing. If Symmetrick is still the same person, then he must have been getting a lot of notifications on his device because I'm sure he must have subscribed to notification bots before.
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December 08, 2023, 02:55:39 PM
#85
This thread blew up a lot more than I ever expected tbh. How big was he in the community? It seems like he did a lot of things already and has been here for years too.
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December 08, 2023, 12:33:40 PM
#84
He's fully aware. There is a good chance that the alleged new owner isn't quite as proficient in English, and posting via Google Translate / ChatGPT is cumbersome.

I don't think that's the reason, as Ratimov also used google translator, like more than half the forum nowadays.

It might be noticeable, if Ratimov knew some English and the current owner hardly any, in the corrections to what google translator writes by him before publishing the post, which might sound more natural, but I think it's more because of everything that has been discussed in the thread I don't think the linguistic issue is the most relevant.
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December 08, 2023, 11:48:53 AM
#83
Has anyone sent a message informing him of this thread or asking him to defend himself? That would be a good starting point, if he declines or whatnot, then we go from there. I'm sure he will decline to comment, but someone should at least inform him so he is aware.

He's fully aware. There is a good chance that the alleged new owner isn't quite as proficient in English, and posting via Google Translate / ChatGPT is cumbersome.
He proved himself as a great escape person when there is anything about him which is not in his favour. Someone who will send him a message even can risk their account to be reported to the mod for unsolicited message LOL
legendary
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December 08, 2023, 11:35:23 AM
#82
There has certainly been a change in his approach to giving sMerit. He spent 200 merits in just 32 seconds, on some very old (iconic) posts, and accounts that have not been active in any discussion for a long time. You can't blame him, it's satoshi, laszlo, etc... but I'm still under the impression that this is not what is expected from a merit source.

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Talk about turning into Darth Vader!
legendary
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December 08, 2023, 11:14:51 AM
#81
Has anyone sent a message informing him of this thread or asking him to defend himself? That would be a good starting point, if he declines or whatnot, then we go from there. I'm sure he will decline to comment, but someone should at least inform him so he is aware.

He's fully aware. There is a good chance that the alleged new owner isn't quite as proficient in English, and posting via Google Translate / ChatGPT is cumbersome.
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December 08, 2023, 11:12:55 AM
#80
After translating the page, I saw a member named Bitcoin Newspaper, to realize it was translated name for GB, lol I wanted to post about it and say he changed username.

On the topic, if you guys are suspecting the other account to be his alt, then take a look at what he is saying, I believe he is concerned for his privacy, continuing to talk about this matter could cause more in real life trouble. But you guys don't care about any of that, you just want to see him crushed no matter the cost.

And if he is really worried about his privacy, he should consult with admin and convey his concerns to him.

I still believe he can recover from this, he just needs to ignore trolls completely, and do the right thing. What is the right thing btw? Oh yeah, continue to discuss what interests you.
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December 08, 2023, 10:50:01 AM
#79
Has anyone sent a message informing him of this thread or asking him to defend himself? That would be a good starting point, if he declines or whatnot, then we go from there. I'm sure he will decline to comment, but someone should at least inform him so he is aware.
The new owner of the account knows everything. But he could not say anything but insults. As already written earlier, he is more stupid than Ratimov. Ratimov also insulted, but wrote something in the case.


Reputation in Russian local
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5105163
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This is his first appearance in reputation after a long time.

There is almost nothing to translate there.Except for insults, he is said that Shenanigan is a famous troll in Russian local Korner. Of course this is not so, Korner never did it only in English and he always used the Russian language.
This is his answer to the message that another user also saw in Shenanigan Ratimov.



After I wrote that Shenanigan is troll  account of Ratimov, Shenanigan  stopped troll activity.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.63288863
legendary
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December 08, 2023, 10:40:14 AM
#78
Has anyone sent a message informing him of this thread or asking him to defend himself? That would be a good starting point, if he declines or whatnot, then we go from there. I'm sure he will decline to comment, but someone should at least inform him so he is aware.
legendary
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December 08, 2023, 10:14:41 AM
#77
I think this was one of the last times I talked with real Ratimov in this forum.
He used his well known dirty language

That was almost a colloquial, academic language! When I talked to him in one of last times this is the way he expressed himself:

Ha ha, stupid motherfucker [...] son of a Romanian whore who was gang-raped.

(Among others.)
In other words, he was trying to emulate TMAN's poetry but failed miserably? Everything he had built over the years came crashing down overnight! Grin
legendary
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December 08, 2023, 09:27:30 AM
#76
I think this was one of the last times I talked with real Ratimov in this forum.
He used his well known dirty language

That was almost a colloquial, academic language! When I talked to him in one of last times this is the way he expressed himself:

Ha ha, stupid motherfucker [...] son of a Romanian whore who was gang-raped.

(Among others.)
legendary
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December 08, 2023, 09:12:35 AM
#75
I think this was one of the last times I talked with real Ratimov in this forum.
He used his well known dirty language and complained why someone else created new revived topic about crypto cards (that he archived previously).
Not long after this, his account changed hands, that is my speculation.

Where is the link to the author of the topic? Where the fuck is the element of quoting someone else’s material that you’re all telling me about here? You simply copied what I did, even my cut-out photos, and presented it as your work.
He said that he continues where you stopped, and you don't really have the right to complain after you deleted a bunch of your posts and topics without any explanation  Tongue

All his archived posts are available on Ninjastic website:
https://ninjastic.space/search?author=Symmetrick
legendary
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December 08, 2023, 08:23:37 AM
#74
If it was a new account, why would it waste merit?

Hoarding merit has no benefit. It's not a "waste" to spend it, that's the only way to use it.

Also most of these big spends happened before the password change so presumably it was not the new owner yet.
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December 08, 2023, 08:09:10 AM
#73
Such people will not just leave the forum. Too expensive a place.
And that’s why you need to delete everything in order to continue writing. Smiley

Such people will not just leave the forum. Too expensive a place.
they sell it and then troll from another account Cheesy
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December 08, 2023, 07:50:23 AM
#72

Better answer. Why do all this if you want to keep posting? Did he start changing his password and email out of stress ?



Go ahead and blame me too Smiley. I also recently changed both my password and email. Such themselves evidence.

I won't delve into your investigations. But you seem to be wishful thinking.  Over the past five years, the forum has changed people. Someone who was a beginner will be a different person five years later.

If you remember, Ratimov wrote without spaces, putting commas immediately after the word (everything is in history). It's conspicuous and awkward to read. It is unlikely that he did not see this himself. Then he was also accused of an alternative, although I don’t remember whose as if he was disguising another account. But after a while, he changed his style and began to write correctly.

Such people will not just leave the forum. Too expensive a place.
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