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December 08, 2023, 07:03:49 AM
#71
We don’t see him offline; maybe he’s crying into his pillow.
Or maybe the troll is laughs here and calculates the money from the sale.

Now, insolence and rudeness are a defense, a mask.
and you forgot about losing his memory selectively. He remembers some users, there are no others. And with old acquaintances communicates as never before.

as a Russian speaker, I do not see any difference in the writing style that Ratimov previously had.
as a Russian speaker you are brazenly lying.




Better answer. Why do all this if you want to keep posting? Did he start changing his password and email out of stress ?


I see he also changed his password and email today...
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It's interesting that after all this circus he remained in the same campaign
Now all that's left is changing the payment address for his signature campaign Tongue

So let's make a sum-up of recent events:

- this topic exposes all Ratimov / Symmetrick's shenanigans from past years
- many DT and non-DT users distrust him or stop trusting him and, eventually, he is kicked out of DT and his DT strength goes from +13 to -9
- he starts a mass purge of his old posts and topics, possibly some with plagiarism evidence, involving also in his actions the 2 Russian mods which he fools into becoming his garbage men, until theymos puts a stop to this (it was too late anyway)
- he deletes all his left feedbacks, retracts all his support for flags and wipes his Trust list
- stops posting in international sections and resumes only to Russian local board
- stops earning merits with lightning speed; stops sending merits with lightning speed (if you check his merit activity you can see that lately he sent some merits at intervals of ~one week)
- changes his name
- changes his email and password.

What do all these seem like?






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December 08, 2023, 06:58:20 AM
#70
I talked with Ratimov from almost the first day of his appearance on the forum and with a probability of 90 percent I can say that John sold his account. I will sign in more detail if there is time, but attentive users can now study Ratimov account and confirm my thoughts.
There needs to be proof posted in order for anyone to take this seriously. No offense to you, but that's how it is on here. Word of mouth only opens the door, proof closes the case. If you have proof, feel free to post it.
I'm in line with what you said because we can't just believe on a merely fabricated story, the only thing can makes us to believe is proof of evidence, such account of Ratimov can't be sold like that because I think from the writing method of Ratimov it indicates that its a young man and mostly people that always interested to sell their account is people who is aged or people who have a multiple accounts, so even though Ratimov have a multiple account it will not sell his Ratimov account because the account is well known in the forum as a reputable and creative one, in order to justify his accounts I think op need a strong proof
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December 08, 2023, 06:56:38 AM
#69
Sometimes you believe the proverb: “The higher you fly, the more painful it is to fall.” Smiley
I think we all needs to give him a lot of time so that he can recover his wound and live a normal life.

I believe that Shenanigan is Bitcoin SV's alt.
It's not forbidden to have alt. There are many reasons for having alts. Not everyone want to express their opinion which could cause their good character reputation to a complicated personal characteristics.
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December 08, 2023, 06:44:58 AM
#68
I returned to the history of Ratimov’s appearance on the forum (although some posts are no longer even in the archives). I also remember very well the appearance of this person on the forum. He did not come to the forum but burst into it. In his history, there were many reports on the removal of spam from the Russian section, after which Merit Source awarded him many merits, which caused the first dissatisfaction among users. Even then, Ratimov was famous for his hot character and possessing obscene language, although not as rude as we see today.

This is probably a psychological problem for Ratimov, to prove to everyone that he can do more and wants to be the first. We all saw his passion for leadership.

And when he has already achieved his goal, his apogee, they begin to accuse him of improper behavior on the forum (I will combine everything). How should this person feel in such a situation? Some people say about him that he is passionate about creating content. But after almost everyone turned their backs on him, does he need this? After he showed all his “FI” disrespect, he proved once again that he could not control his emotions.

Affected ego, bruised ego, wounded vanity—all this is screaming inside him today. He was offended by everyone—the entire forum—after the “work” that he thought he had done.

Now I think everything is logical. He behaves in such a way as to appear impudent, without respect for anyone, not even those who supported him, because behavior is difficult to explain from a man’s perspective.

For some weak people, aggression is a good defense. We don’t see him offline; maybe he’s crying into his pillow.
As a result, and as a Russian speaker, I do not see any difference in the writing style that Ratimov previously had. Now, insolence and rudeness are a defense, a mask.

Sometimes you believe the proverb: “The higher you fly, the more painful it is to fall.” Smiley


There has certainly been a change in his approach to giving sMerit. He spent 200 merits in just 32 seconds, on some very old (iconic) posts, and accounts that have not been active in any discussion for a long time. You can't blame him, it's satoshi, laszlo, etc... but I'm still under the impression that this is not what is expected from a merit source.


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If it was a new account, why would it waste merit?
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December 08, 2023, 05:54:48 AM
#67
Ah alright I see now. Thanks for the heads up! It does correlate with some of the clown stuff i’ve been seeing go around on the forums of people using alts I thought it was not allowed at first too but it seems like you’re allowed to use other accounts as long as you aren’t evading or breaking the rules on them. Not sure how these trolls still exist I suppose they’re using some loophole where they’re just annoying but not rule breaking enough to get banned.
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December 08, 2023, 05:36:22 AM
#66
If you need solid proof, it only can come from theymos or Cyrus, two forum admins.

There has certainly been a change in his approach to giving sMerit. He spent 200 merits in just 32 seconds, on some very old (iconic) posts, and accounts that have not been active in any discussion for a long time. You can't blame him, it's satoshi, laszlo, etc... but I'm still under the impression that this is not what is expected from a merit source.

I believe that Shenanigan is Bitcoin SV's alt. In case you haven't noticed, he has same delusional behavior as BSV. Besides, he keeps making a post then deleting it immediately after, only for posting it again but a bit changed, just like BSV does. As a plus, he also edits the posts (which he does not delete), deleting substantial parts from them, in case someone points the finger to something chaotic / idiotic written by him -- also just like BSV does. For example, just look at the post where you quoted me, which contains a quote from him -- he deleted that post, after he realized he asked an imbecility (n.b. -- that is what account selling means). Then he posted again this post, but slightly changed.

As a plus, he also tends to make same typing / grammar mistakes made by BSV as well. Let's not forget also the constant use of emotes, also just like BSV.

He also reminds me of someone, but since I ignore most trolls, I didn't manage to recognize who it was. Just another account to ignore. I'm even surprised that so many more experienced members enter into a discussion with him.
Don't feed the troll.
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December 08, 2023, 04:35:09 AM
#65
--snip--
I believe that Shenanigan is Bitcoin SV's alt. In case you haven't noticed, he has same delusional behavior as BSV. Besides, he keeps making a post then deleting it immediately after, only for posting it again but a bit changed, just like BSV does. As a plus, he also edits the posts (which he does not delete), deleting substantial parts from them, in case someone points the finger to something chaotic / idiotic written by him -- also just like BSV does. For example, just look at the post where you quoted me, which contains a quote from him -- he deleted that post, after he realized he asked an imbecility (n.b. -- that is what account selling means). Then he posted again this post, but slightly changed.

As a plus, he also tends to make same typing / grammar mistakes made by BSV as well. Let's not forget also the constant use of emotes, also just like BSV.

In addition, he pretend other Bitcointalk member think that forum is be decentralized and then say that they're wrong. AFAIK only that user perform do such thing. Quick example,

His forum is rules.
Ok, then don’t tell any more fairy tales about decentralization on the forum.
--snip--

Are you all saw now that how much this forum is decentralized?  
--snip--

P.S. This isn't hard or solid proof.
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December 08, 2023, 04:10:44 AM
#64
Shenanigan
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/shenanigan-3531635
This is probably Ratimov trolling account
Registration January 2023

And then suddenly the account wakes up during the conflict Ratimov.And he begins to worry the same questions at the same time, that bothered Ratimov almost immediately.What a coincidence.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.63219730
On many forums, if you ask the admin, he can delete your account completely as if it never existed
But on this forum that there is no such opportunity for nobody. The admin will not delete your account even if you ask him to. Although technically he can do this. The forum engine allows this.
If it's a difficult even to change your nickname here, then what kind of account deletion can we even talk about?
The most you can do is push a report button of your messages

If it's a difficult even to change your nickname here It was difficult, but he did it. Cheesy
How many users have changed their name on the forum recently?



A few more reports of dissatisfaction with the forum and all its personal enemies, such as this

This forum doesn't care about privacy. User Loycev has many more privileges and rights than a regular user. He can see things that the average user cannot see. However, Loycev is not an even a global moderator. This is a potential threat to the security of the forum

Thank You for what? Because he surrounded himself with close favorites (LoyceV, noorman0, ETFbitcoin, Little Mouse, PrimeNumber7, decodx, GazetaBitcoin, Royse777, etc) who do what they want here and no one scolds them for it. The forum has been dying for a long time. And the ban on mixers only exposed the long-standing growing mass discontent of users
Why are some given powers (LoyceV, etc) while others are forced to delve into shit? This is not fair.


Reading all messages, we understand that he perfectly understands everything in everything on this forum.


And suddenly this account begins to work as a free Ratimov lawyer in my topic

Okay okay okay
Now listen here everybody. If Ratimov comes here with a bitcoin signed message and confirms his bitcoin address, would you all agree to be accused of libel (total distrusting and tagging as slanderers from all DT members)?

Will not come as much of a surprise if it turns out to be true.
No, it will be a much bigger surprise when it turns out that he didn’t sell the account to anyone.  Grin

More aggressive, and less intellectual. And strange figures of speech.
After so many accusations, why he should be kind? I think anyone would change if they were punished such unfairly
Ratimov is simply in a bad mood. His bad mood is not a proof of account-selling

I can imagine how these detectives will be disgraced and fall into a trap if they also base their accusations on assumptions, if it turns out that Ratimov was actually not selling his account.
Then Ratimov will have every right to open a counter-charge of libel.
There is no need to throw around empty accusations. People tend to change



Creates trolling theme
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/theymos-reputation-thread-5476897


And trolls messages related to my topic
keeping asking questions:

6) theymos, are you stille here under account theymos? Please give us a sign that it's still you, not a FBI or SEC authorized person


This account writes in simple English. English is not native to him. Why does he hide his native language?


Similar habits to congratulate yourself and the desire to congratulate him by someone
Someone congratulate me: NEWBIE RANK 1 MERIT
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December 08, 2023, 03:47:23 AM
#63
Might want to leave the alt finding to the experts.
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December 08, 2023, 03:15:29 AM
#62
Why the hell does it mean account selling?
I believed you speak English. What's there not to understand from these few words?
A short while ago I tagged his account with a neutral trust and noticed you have done it too. Quite clearly, he is a troll and I think it is obvious this is not his only account. For him to be posting in Meta and Reputation with the knowledge about the forum and the members shows he has an ulterior motive. Sometimes he posts silly comments such as the one you replied to by claiming he does not know.

I believe that Shenanigan is Bitcoin SV's alt. In case you haven't noticed, he has same delusional behavior as BSV. Besides, he keeps making a post then deleting it immediately after, only for posting it again but a bit changed, just like BSV does. As a plus, he also edits the posts (which he does not delete), deleting substantial parts from them, in case someone points the finger to something chaotic / idiotic written by him -- also just like BSV does. For example, just look at the post where you quoted me, which contains a quote from him -- he deleted that post, after he realized he asked an imbecility (n.b. -- that is what account selling means). Then he posted again this post, but slightly changed.

As a plus, he also tends to make same typing / grammar mistakes made by BSV as well. Let's not forget also the constant use of emotes, also just like BSV.

Just keep observing all these. If you reply to him, you may notice afterwards that the post you replied to does not exist anymore. And that just within minutes. Then he makes the same post again, with some midifications.

He has also created a Theymos reputation thread too  Roll Eyes

Yes. Then look at that topic and then to these posts made by BSV: link 1 and link2. Don't they look like being written by same hand?
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December 08, 2023, 02:47:07 AM
#61
Couldn’t there be like IP checks that can just quickly resolve these type of scenarios?
No. Admin won't get involved, and it could lead to false positives.
Admins only take action in special cases but I believe with this case such as that one, no need for admin engagement, the community will figure out about it soon.

[1] VIP Member hacked?

Alternatively and additionally, some members who have talks with the user in the past can explore the fact too like this.

By exploring this case, I found one thing, theymos or Cyrus only changed the display name for Ratimov and we can search with Ratimov as a key word at forum's member search and find Symmetrick. In this case, admin did not change both username and display name for the user. This means the change here is for appearance only, not for privacy reason.
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December 08, 2023, 02:36:47 AM
#60
If Ratimov Acc has changed hands and you're going to start mentioning their *cough* generous meriting, then you should have no problem citing where their generosity changes with new users favoured over longer serving members.
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December 08, 2023, 01:45:57 AM
#59
Actually, "Ratimov" acc has some strange posting now (in Dec). I see some difference with his past posting. More aggressive, and less intellectual. And strange figures of speech.
Maybe he just stopped copy/pasting Roll Eyes

Couldn’t there be like IP checks that can just quickly resolve these type of scenarios?
No. Admin won't get involved, and it could lead to false positives.
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December 08, 2023, 12:06:28 AM
#58
I wouldn't be surprised if this were true. Ratimov burned all bridges behind him, and instead of confronting problems, he just kept digging a deeper hole. Maybe it's an ego thing, I don't get it.

If this is true, it leaves only one question: why would anyone buy such a high-profile account? Maybe that's the reason he stopped posting in English too, but if the account changed owner, that can't go unnoticed.
Imagine someone else using my account: how long would it last before it's exposed? I hope it doesn't even take a day!

If it is sold it wouldn’t exactly make sense for the buyer to be in your words “digging his own grave”. Although not everyone who buys stuff in general is gonna be smart and some people will be retarded. I assume these Legendary accounts go for expensive amounts if they were to ever be sold especially for someone like him. It is stupid that he is basically destroying his reputation and everything but if I were to buy an account I wouldn’t be absolutely stupid and burn bridges and ruin the accounts reputation by what people think of the user.

Couldn’t there be like IP checks that can just quickly resolve these type of scenarios?
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December 07, 2023, 08:23:10 PM
#57
Having said that he seems to be wearing a mixer campaign earning $10 per post therefore financial motives are definitely important to him (regardless of who is controlling the account).
Selling an account earning 10$/post is way more appealing for a potential customer than an account earning nothing, right?
Yes, absolutely.

Why the hell does it mean account selling?
I believed you speak English. What's there not to understand from these few words?
A short while ago I tagged his account with a neutral trust and noticed you have done it too. Quite clearly, he is a troll and I think it is obvious this is not his only account. For him to be posting in Meta and Reputation with the knowledge about the forum and the members shows he has an ulterior motive. Sometimes he posts silly comments such as the one you replied to by claiming he does not know.

He has also created a Theymos reputation thread too  Roll Eyes
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December 07, 2023, 08:11:57 PM
#56
Can someone explain to me how you see that he has withdrawn merit source status? The link you posted does not point to any specific user.
Deleting the merit source thread application doesn't lead directly to that, does it? Also, the fact that on average he distributed less merit than otherwise, does not necessarily exclude that he has out-of-merit sources.
I did not say it is a solid evidence for conclusion and I only provided some information but as said, I noted that more evidence is needed even connecting those dots seems to lead to a logical conclusion.

If you need solid proof, it only can come from theymos or Cyrus, two forum admins.

I also have to mention other dots: email address changed and password changed on November 23, 2023, 10:33:06 AM.

Ratimov Symmetrick is one of biggest merit source in Bitcointalk. Most generous merit senders, all time. So with this drop of 1000 merit as Halab revealed, I can not think of any merit source than Ratimov Symmetrick.
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46405: LoyceV
44417: El duderino_
43287: fillippone
41588: suchmoon
37598: ETFbitcoin
36272: JayJuanGee
33270: Symmetrick
32528: DdmrDdmr
32239: hugeblack
28061: vapourminer
27415: The Sceptical Chymist
26006: o_e_l_e_o


The user created many helpful topics (I can not deny it because I learned from his threads too) and made some mistakes (bad for sure) but I failed to see how he changed entirely this way, like LoyceV said, dig deeper and deeper into the dark.
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December 07, 2023, 05:37:50 PM
#55
Will not come as much of a surprise if it turns out to be true.
No, it will be a much bigger surprise when it turns out that he didn’t sell the account to anyone.  Grin

More aggressive, and less intellectual. And strange figures of speech.
After so many accusations, why he should be kind? I think anyone would change if they were punished such unfairly

Ratimov is simply in a bad mood. His bad mood is not a proof of account-selling
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December 07, 2023, 05:13:39 PM
#54
Why the hell does it mean account selling?

I believed you speak English. What's there not to understand from these few words?
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December 07, 2023, 05:10:42 PM
#53
Ratimov is a personally I personally had great respect for
I also respected Ratimov, but this is not Ratimov. We normally communicate even after conflicts.
I apologize, I can’t answer everyone, it’s hard to write in English quickly for me.

you can easily use Google Translate to help you speed up typing into English Grin btw, I also really respect Ratimov (he was a member who helped me reach senior membership in the beginning), I don't really understand the problem that occurred between you and Ratimov, as well as your conversation with him at the Russian local board, I hope that the problem that was rumored will be resolved quickly. apart from that, strong evidence is really needed so that it doesn't lead to slander.
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December 07, 2023, 04:24:50 PM
#52
Having said that he seems to be wearing a mixer campaign earning $10 per post therefore financial motives are definitely important to him (regardless of who is controlling the account).

Selling an account earning 10$/post is way more appealing for a potential customer than an account earning nothing, right?
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