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Quote from: nutildah on February 29, 2024, 10:19:45 AM

Here's the thing you just don't quite get: everyone here thinks you're a giant, remorseless asshole. Every. Single. Person.

If you want anyone here to use Wasabi, you'd shut the fuck up. Just shut the fuck up completely. Go away, basically.

If you want to continue to harm the reputation of the Wasabi brand, then by all means, keep talking.

The choice is yours.

I'm not debating you about this. As someone who's been here for 9 years longer than you, I'm telling you the way that it is.

You can either pseudo-intellectualize your way around it in an ultimately fruitless attempt to save face (yet again), or you can consider that perhaps I have a point.

The choice is yours.

I don't care about your opinion, I care about the truth: o_e_l_e_o was using Bitcointalk to funnel coins away from self custody (where they couldn't be tracked) into the hands of a custodian that STOLE EVERYTHING.

In order to do this, he purposely created lies about innocent open source projects. It wasn't just Wasabi he lied about, he also fabricated these fake accusations against BTCPay Server and Trezor. The existence of these projects that don't custody funds or collect data undermined the "legitimacy" of his mixing site scams, so he made them all his target.

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Quote from: Kruw on February 29, 2024, 08:01:42 AM

Here's the thing you just don't quite get: everyone here thinks you're a giant, remorseless asshole. Every. Single. Person.

If you want anyone here to use Wasabi, you'd shut the fuck up. Just shut the fuck up completely. Go away, basically.

If you want to continue to harm the reputation of the Wasabi brand, then by all means, keep talking.

The choice is yours.

I'm not debating you about this. As someone who's been here for 9 years longer than you, I'm telling you the way that it is.

You can either pseudo-intellectualize your way around it in an ultimately fruitless attempt to save face (yet again), or you can consider that perhaps I have a point.

The choice is yours.

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Quote from: SamReomo on February 29, 2024, 04:20:46 AM

No, you've interpreted it in a wrong way, you should instead say that Bitcointalk community WILL NOT FORGET the contribution which o_e_l_e_o made to this community. Trust me Bitcointalk community miss Leo so much that we won't forget him anytime. He's a legend and he has made his place in our hearts, so no matter whoever hates him, we will always respect him, and wish him a happy life.

"The contribution" o_e_l_e_o made to the Bitcointalk community was a deliberate lie that caused people to lose their Bitcoins and data to Chipmixer, the custodian he was advertising. Why would you respect that?

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Quote from: Kruw on February 28, 2024, 06:31:48 PM

The Bitcointalk community WILL NOT FORGIVE o_e_l_e_o for this betrayal.

No, you've interpreted it in a wrong way, you should instead say that Bitcointalk community WILL NOT FORGET the contribution which o_e_l_e_o made to this community. Trust me Bitcointalk community miss Leo so much that we won't forget him anytime. He's a legend and he has made his place in our hearts, so no matter whoever hates him, we will always respect him, and wish him a happy life.

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Quote from: decodx on February 28, 2024, 02:45:46 PM

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A useless person who spews crap and bullshit out of their mouth constantly.

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(1) a worse than worthless object or person; an object or person that holds no value or redeeming qualities whatsoever

(2) a stupid, low-life, self-righteous human being who makes life a living hell for themselves and others

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Any peroson who is not worth the same amount as a piece of shit.

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=piece+of+shit

Tons of other definitions out there, but these ones hit the spot for you, in my opinion.

Shouldn't you be calling o_e_l_e_o a piece of shit? There's a massive amount of evidence against him, and no evidence against me. You are defending the scammer who tricked people into losing their coins and data to Chipmixer, don't you care about o_e_l_e_o's victims?

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Quote from: Kruw on February 28, 2024, 09:54:43 AM

What is wrong in this thread? Use a direct quote.

This thread currently has 8 pages and over 150 posts, if you haven't figured out what's wrong here, I certainly can't explain it to you in one post. That's why I have no intention of explaining anything to you, it's pointless.
If anyone ^{me also} here does not respond to your questions, it does not mean that no one has more arguments, it means that no one wants to continue the discussion in the way you started here.

I said USE A DIRECT QUOTE.

Quote from: Kruw on February 28, 2024, 09:54:43 AM

What is wrong in this thread? Use a direct quote.

Since you can't find a direct quote of me saying anything wrong, that confirms everything in this thread is exactly right: o_e_l_e_o knowingly attacked Bitcoin by purposely fabricating lies about innocent open source projects. In the process of doing so, o_e_l_e_o tricked Bitcointalk users into losing their coins and data to Chipmixer, the custodian he was advertising.

The Bitcointalk community WILL NOT FORGIVE o_e_l_e_o for this betrayal.

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Quote from: Kruw on February 28, 2024, 09:54:43 AM

What is wrong in this thread? Use a direct quote.

This thread currently has 8 pages and over 150 posts, if you haven't figured out what's wrong here, I certainly can't explain it to you in one post. That's why I have no intention of explaining anything to you, it's pointless.
If anyone ^{me also} here does not respond to your questions, it does not mean that no one has more arguments, it means that no one wants to continue the discussion in the way you started here.

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Quote from: Kruw on February 28, 2024, 09:54:43 AM

Why does telling the truth about Bitcoin make me a "~~price~~ piece of shit" to you?

I fixed that mistake in your quote.

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A useless person who spews crap and bullshit out of their mouth constantly.

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(1) a worse than worthless object or person; an object or person that holds no value or redeeming qualities whatsoever

(2) a stupid, low-life, self-righteous human being who makes life a living hell for themselves and others

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Any peroson who is not worth the same amount as a piece of shit.

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=piece+of+shit

Tons of other definitions out there, but these ones hit the spot for you, in my opinion.

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Quote from: Hueristic on February 27, 2024, 01:12:39 AM

You never get sick of people telling you what a piece of shit you are do you?

Why does telling the truth about Bitcoin make me a "piece of shit" to you?

Quote from: NotATether on February 28, 2024, 07:27:35 AM

Don't you find it retarded that he just refuses to let go of a thread made by someone who's not even here anymore?

Don't you have any sympathy for o_e_l_e_o's victims who listened to him and lost their money to Chipmixer?

Quote from: examplens on February 28, 2024, 08:25:39 AM

Everything inside and about this thread is wrong

What is wrong in this thread? Use a direct quote.

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Quote from: NotATether on February 28, 2024, 07:27:35 AM

Quote from: nutildah on February 28, 2024, 07:00:43 AM

Don't you find it retarded that he just refuses to let go of a thread made by someone who's not even here anymore?

I think everyone should ignore this thread.
Everything inside and about this thread is wrong and its life should not be extended. I believe that the OP would eventually give up if he realizes that there is no support or interest in this kind of discussion.

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Quote from: nutildah on February 28, 2024, 07:00:43 AM

Don't you find it retarded that he just refuses to let go of a thread made by someone who's not even here anymore?

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Quote from: Kruw on February 27, 2024, 12:58:36 AM

It occurred to me that o_e_l_e_o's behavior reminds me of Jussie Smollett, who faked a hate crime against himself: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jussie_Smollett_hate_crime_hoax

Just like Jussie Smollett was framing white people to promote himself, o_e_l_e_o framed open source privacy projects to promote his "mixing sites".

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Quote from: Kruw on February 27, 2024, 12:58:36 AM

It occurred to me that o_e_l_e_o's behavior reminds me of Jussie Smollett, who faked a hate crime against himself: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jussie_Smollett_hate_crime_hoax

Just like Jussie Smollett was framing white people to promote himself, o_e_l_e_o framed open source privacy projects to promote his "mixing sites".

You never get sick of people telling you what a piece of shit you are do you?

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It occurred to me that o_e_l_e_o's behavior reminds me of Jussie Smollett, who faked a hate crime against himself: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jussie_Smollett_hate_crime_hoax

Just like Jussie Smollett was framing white people to promote himself, o_e_l_e_o framed open source privacy projects to promote his "mixing sites".

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Quote from: Doan9269 on February 17, 2024, 10:12:50 AM

If this gets in place, then maybe we may be deviating from the amin purpose on creating this platform, this is strictly on bitcoin discussion, any other affairs or activities you're having with any member should be at your own risk, that is why scam is not moderated here, we have to make our own research.

Exactly: o_e_l_e_o preemptively sabotaged the research of others by purposely lying about innocent projects.

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Interesting concept.

A multi signature wallet by anyone wanting to financially support such a venture would ensure no one walks off with the bag.

Perhaps if you front up BTC the app issues you with a token which enables you to withdraw just your share and no one else's? 🤔

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Quote from: Kruw on February 01, 2024, 04:27:42 PM

Imagine there's a way to build a trustless casino on Bitcoin that doesn't let the operator cheat or steal from players.

If this gets in place, then maybe we may be deviating from the amin purpose on creating this platform, this is strictly on bitcoin discussion, any other affairs or activities you're having with any member should be at your own risk, that is why scam is not moderated here, we have to make our own research.

Quote from: Kruw on February 01, 2024, 04:27:42 PM

Now imagine there's a trusted casino outside of Bitcoin that lets the operator cheat or steal from players.

It happens in life that some things we trusted doesn't even appear the way we are seeing them in reality until we get into them before knowing, life is all about risk, but we must be sure of what we are into both in and out.

A decentralized open sauce casino that's codebase's hash is signed and checked on the client side should not be that hard to code.

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Quote from: Kruw on February 01, 2024, 04:27:42 PM

Imagine there's a way to build a trustless casino on Bitcoin that doesn't let the operator cheat or steal from players.

If this gets in place, then maybe we may be deviating from the amin purpose on creating this platform, this is strictly on bitcoin discussion, any other affairs or activities you're having with any member should be at your own risk, that is why scam is not moderated here, we have to make our own research.

Quote from: Kruw on February 01, 2024, 04:27:42 PM

Now imagine there's a trusted casino outside of Bitcoin that lets the operator cheat or steal from players.

It happens in life that some things we trusted doesn't even appear the way we are seeing them in reality until we get into them before knowing, life is all about risk, but we must be sure of what we are into both in and out.

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Quote from: SamReomo on February 01, 2024, 03:41:16 PM

If I'm not wrong then most reputed members of the forum were actively applying the signature on their profiles back then because at that time it was one of the most reliable mixers one can think of. But when they turned into frauds and did wrong things then most users remove that signature from their profiles.

Those who were applying the signature including o_e_l_e_o, weren't aware that a project like Chipmixer can do money laundering and other shady activities and if they were aware of that fact then they would most probably not apply the signature on their profiles. That's why blaming o_e_l_e_o or anyone else who were applying the signature on their profiles isn't a justifiable thing.

No one willingly applies the signatures of the platforms that do fraud with users. I believe 1xBit also launched their signature program on this forum but none of the good members applied that signature on their profiles because they were sure that the casino does shady things with the players and all those who applied the signature on their profiles got red tags from the reputed members of the forum.

Imagine there's a way to build a trustless casino on Bitcoin that doesn't let the operator cheat or steal from players. Now imagine there's a trusted casino outside of Bitcoin that lets the operator cheat or steal from players. If someone goes to the thread of the trustless casino and tells others to use the trusted casino, anyone who listens will only end up in a worse position, and never in a better one.

You can't get cheated or stolen from with Wasabi's coinjoins, but you can get cheated or stolen from with ChipMixer. o_e_l_e_o told people to abandon the trustless software and lose their funds to the trusted custodian.

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Quote from: Kruw on February 01, 2024, 10:33:09 AM

I guess I didn't leave out any context then. I rigorously proved that o_e_l_e_o was knowingly lying about open source privacy projects and convincing users to give up custody of their funds and data to ChipMixer, who scammed their depositors.

If I'm not wrong then most reputed members of the forum were actively applying the signature on their profiles back then because at that time it was one of the most reliable mixers one can think of. But when they turned into frauds and did wrong things then most users remove that signature from their profiles.

Those who were applying the signature including o_e_l_e_o, weren't aware that a project like Chipmixer can do money laundering and other shady activities and if they were aware of that fact then they would most probably not apply the signature on their profiles. That's why blaming o_e_l_e_o or anyone else who were applying the signature on their profiles isn't a justifiable thing.

No one willingly applies the signatures of the platforms that do fraud with users. I believe 1xBit also launched their signature program on this forum but none of the good members applied that signature on their profiles because they were sure that the casino does shady things with the players and all those who applied the signature on their profiles got red tags from the reputed members of the forum.

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Quote from: Kruw on February 01, 2024, 10:33:09 AM

Quote from: nutildah on February 01, 2024, 10:30:24 AM

You willfully missed the entire point. Nobody here is swayed by your arguments, regardless of how many times you repost the same text over and over again.

I'm not sure you're capable of experiencing humility, so there's no reason to continue this discussion.

I guess I didn't leave out any context then. I rigorously proved that o_e_l_e_o was knowingly lying about open source privacy projects and convincing users to give up custody of their funds and data to ChipMixer, who scammed their depositors.

I haven’t followed this issue much, outside of warning everyone right BEFORE chipmixer was shut down that they shouldn’t use it because the site had illegally laundered money for a criminal theft and would obviously be shut down as a result. I was attacked for that warning that turned out to be true. You’d think I would have been praised in a normal environment…

I think a person that comes here, runs a signature campaign to get money from this community and then leaves once that money dries up is probably not the most respectable Bitcoiner, but good luck convincing those who were on the payroll (a huge chunk of the current DT network here).

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