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January 30, 2024, 02:27:45 AM
Everyone indeed has somewhat level of stupidity in their closet but making a public display of it is absolutely irresponsible and unnecessary and you have really displayed a great deal of stupidity with all this. I don't know your motive or what you stand to gain with this public display of cruelty and stupidity but trust me, it is totally irrelevant.

If you've got grievances with Leo, rather than coming to a Farewell thread and publicly spitting dung for everyone to see just how full of shit you really are, you could've taken it somewhere else and let out your grievances, no one is saying you should forgive anyone for whatever grievances you've got, but for God's sake have some little conscience. I don't know if you're expecting appraisal for this crap but I'm pretty sure I'm not the one who feels disgusted by what you're doing.


Actually, I would say the opposite:  Since o_e_l_e_o doesn't have much time left to make things right, he should use this chance to correct the record and apologize for knowingly spreading lies about weaknesses in Bitcoin's privacy.  Bitcointalk posts are a legacy you leave behind even after you die, so it's worth it to extend eternity your honesty.
Yeah, whatever.  If I knew I only had a short time left on this earth, the last thing on my mind would be trying to appease anyone on the internet.  I would imagine Leo doesn't agree with the arguments being made here anyhow, so doubtless he doesn't think there's anything to set straight.

Not everyone finds it necessary to engage in frivolous online arguments. And to be honest, there's no shame in that; if I were Leo, I'd rather take a nap all day than come here and attempt to clear things up. Sometimes, it's more valuable to concentrate on living your life than it is to engage in pointless internet disputes with strangers.

I only ever saw him recommend custodial mixers when people were specifically willing to trust a custodian to mix their coins. He could've been more outspoken about the risks associated with them but it is not his responsibility to stop people from doing something stupid.

No, he specifically was recommending the custodian that leaked everyone's data and stole everyone's coins on the thread of a non custodial privacy wallet:

August 23 2022 – o_e_l_e_o lies and says the custodian he partnered with that stole everyone’s deposits and turned over their data to the government has as good or better privacy than Wasabi

If projects such as Samourai, JoinMarket, ChipMixer, Bisq, LocalCryptos, Monero, and anything else which gives users as good or better privacy than Wasabi can continue unencumbered, then Wasabi can too. They simply choose not to.

While I think we're getting a bit off track, but you're the one spreading lies here.

3. When Leo recommended using that centralized mixing service, it was a trusted and respected platform in the community. It was promoted/endorsed by many high-ranking members, not just him, and I've never heard of any legitimate scam accusations against them. I can personally testify that they were a legitimate service, as I have used them on numerous occasions without any issues.

So, while the claim that a centralized mixer service offers comparable or superior privacy to Wasabi can be considered a matter of opinion, it is unfair and inaccurate to label it as an outright lie.

Agreed, a lot of people uses Binance exchange, regardless the fact that it's a centralized exchange, and not only do they use it, they also recommend it to other users because it's trusted and respected, so if Binance happens to go down today, there's no way anyone would be help responsible or blamed for promoting Binance or recommending it to other users. I believe that's just the case here, so that's really not enough proof for anyone to point accusing fingers on Leo, except he'll also call out every other person on the forum that's promoted the same mixer service. Or except maybe there's another reason to why he's taking this whole thing personal.
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January 29, 2024, 09:34:46 PM
Actually, I would say the opposite:  Since o_e_l_e_o doesn't have much time left to make things right, he should use this chance to correct the record and apologize for knowingly spreading lies about weaknesses in Bitcoin's privacy.  Bitcointalk posts are a legacy you leave behind even after you die, so it's worth it to extend eternity your honesty.
Yeah, whatever.  If I knew I only had a short time left on this earth, the last thing on my mind would be trying to appease anyone on the internet.  I would imagine Leo doesn't agree with the arguments being made here anyhow, so doubtless he doesn't think there's anything to set straight.
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January 29, 2024, 09:34:18 PM
He came across as a rational human being that explained his position using logic.

Here's the rational, logical position that o_e_l_e_o knew all along:

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March 14 2022 - o_e_l_e_o admits coordinator policy doesn’t affect your inputs, admits to BlackHatCoiner that switching coordinators solves the censorship problem, and admits to BlackHatCoiner that his motivation is simply to fight against Wasabi anyways:

Even if this change from Wasabi won't affect any of your inputs, they are no longer an entity which I can trust to fight for my privacy.

Would it be possible for some to start running coordinators?
Absolutely. The coordinator code is open source, so anyone can download it and spin up their own instance. That would solve the immediate problem if everyone switched to a different coordinator, but it doesn't stop these other coordinators being pressured in to implementing the same restrictions and it doesn't change the fact that Wasabi did this in the first place instead of fighting against it.

March 15 2022 - o_e_l_e_o admits that the data feed is a 1 way street from a blockchain analysis company to the coordinator, and that no data is provided to blockchain analysis:

In fact, they need to cooperate with blockchain analysis to obtain information about "taint" UTXOs.
Well, they only need to cooperate in this sense to have the blockchain analysis entity feed them data about which UTXO's to block. But as I said, if they cooperate like this then it won't be long before that cooperation becomes a two way street, with them feeding data back to the blockchain analysis entity.
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January 29, 2024, 09:22:25 PM
The topic is extremely important because the damage he inflicted on the reputations of these non custodial open source privacy projects remains even after he stops using the forum.  By alerting everyone that o_e_l_e_o was intentionally sabotaging Bitcoin by lying about the innocent, we can finally move the conversation of privacy forward using honest premises.

Except the thing is nobody here believes that at all. He came across as a rational human being that explained his position using logic. You come across as a petulant child. Nobody has done more damage to Wasabi here than you, and you have no one to blame but yourself for that.
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January 29, 2024, 08:46:11 PM
No matter the proof you provided, do you realize that we're only getting your own part of the story but we haven't heard or gotten anything from the accused? For now is just a mare accusation because we can't say he's what you call him until we get his own part of the gist, so is best you let it slide and I pray to God to do some miracle, get him completely healed, let him come back here and testify then you can start this whole drama all over again.

The proof I provided is quoted directly from o_e_l_e_o himself.  I'm not producing any new evidence that Bitcointalk users can't verify with their own eyes.

Come to think of it OP, why is it now that he's not using the Forum anymore that you're bringing this topic of him being an imposter? Don't you also think someone can still use his name to do bad things without him knowing?

The topic is extremely important because the damage he inflicted on the reputations of these non custodial open source privacy projects remains even after he stops using the forum.  By alerting everyone that o_e_l_e_o was intentionally sabotaging Bitcoin by lying about the innocent, we can finally move the conversation of privacy forward using honest premises.
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January 29, 2024, 08:27:52 PM
No matter how things are between you and o_e_l_e_o I don't think him having a short time to live is something you should be happy about, is like you're taking advantage of the fact that he's not going to be here to defend himself to say some crazy things.
I'm not saying "crazy things", I provided o_e_l_e_o's own quotes that prove he was lying about innocent non custodial open source privacy projects and telling people to deposit their coins into a scam that stole depositor funds and turned over user data to the government.

No matter the proof you provided, do you realize that we're only getting your own part of the story but we haven't heard or gotten anything from the accused? For now is just a mare accusation because we can't say he's what you call him until we get his own part of the gist, so is best you let it slide and I pray to God to do some miracle, get him completely healed, let him come back here and testify then you can start this whole drama all over again.



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"Even if he stole your money"?...

I'm curious, how would you feel if someone who was impostering your profile to scam people out of their money died?  Would you say "well, at least my imposter deserves respect"?

The way you think and the way I think are never going to be the same, wishing anyone death is not going to come from me.
And again yes he deserves some respect, the thing is how you lay your complain that why it seems like we're against you but for ones you had to give him the regard after all we still have many people who can still speak good if him.
Come to think of it OP, why is it now that he's not using the Forum anymore that you're bringing this topic of him being an imposter? Don't you also think someone can still use his name to do bad things without him knowing?
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January 29, 2024, 04:22:25 PM
Even if you know that the accusations he was making weren't right you should not post comments like that on his farewell thread. When he was present on this forum and no one was aware of his health issue then you could create a thread and come up with your accusations.

I was actively warning users about o_e_l_e_o scamming while he was still present too.

However, you have chosen a wrong thread to make those comments as his farewell message shocked the all members of the forum and no one even thought that something like that could happen to a doctor. I hope by now you might understand that whatever you said wasn't right especially in a thread like that.

You seem to misunderstand:  Saying "Farewell" does not mean that you only say goodbye to your friends, saying farewell also means you say goodbye to your victims.  The victims deserve just as much of a voice as the friends, if not more.

Trust me your comment on that thread hurt the feelings of many members of the forum. We as humans should understand that sometimes our words in wrong occasions can hurt others feelings. I'm not sure what's with you or with o_e_l_e_o, but if must say that your comment wasn't right on that thread.

I don't care about people's feelings, I care about the truth.

Sure I can. Here is an example.

So, to paraphrase your words, you have never provided any proof of Chipmixer scamming anyone, you just reposted it without verifying it.

I did verify those reports are from real victims of ChipMixer and ChipMixer partners, and I did verify it was not ChipMixer competitors purposely lying (like the evidence you linked shows.)

Proof of james3441 - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.52372824
Proof of Lucius - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.61812722
Proof of n0nce - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.61736973

As you can see, I do not have a double standard because I always make sure my accusations are backed up with proof.

That's your opinion, but I disagree. They were seized by a government and all available private keys were confiscated. That's not the definition of a scam.

If ChipMixer wasn't a scam, please explain how all the NON available private keys that ChipMixer said they deleted were also confiscated.

That's another lie. Here's your original post in o_e_l_e_o's "farewell" thread: https://ninjastic.space/post/63517379
That post contains no proofs whatsoever, just your baseless opinion and a disgusting comment about his terminal illness.

As you can see from the quote, I made no comment whatsoever about his illness:

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Good riddance o_e_l_e_o.  No one else I've interacted with on this forum has done more damage to the future of Bitcoin and freedom than you.  Even after your involvement with the Chipmixer scam, you knowingly spread continuous lies about privacy weaknesses in Bitcoin that do not exist. Your scheme of tricking people into giving up their data and stealing their coins will finally come to an end.

As I mentioned earlier, if o_e_l_e_o's farewell thread said he was leaving the forum to become a Buddhist monk or Amish farmer, my "Good Riddance" post would not change at all, because no mention was made whatsoever about his physical condition.  
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January 29, 2024, 03:15:33 PM
Thanks for calling o_e_l_e_o out for the pathetic way he ruined his reputation.
You publicly lied and twisted my words, so now I have full right to call you a liar and you are not far from being a scammer if you continue down this path.

Talking with this member is a waste of time since he thinks he is always right, so I would suggest everyone to ignore him and stop replying on his posts.
Let him enjoy his eco chamber.
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January 29, 2024, 12:03:03 PM
What do you mean I have "double standards"?  Can you provide an example?

Sure I can. Here is an example.

So, to paraphrase your words, you have never provided any proof of Chipmixer scamming anyone, you just reposted it without verifying it.

OK. Assuming these claims are true (and I have no reason to doubt them, I'm just pointing out that they do not constitute irrefutable evidence), based on the information provided, it's reasonable to conclude that ChipMixer did not steal those coins, but rather a government agency confiscated them.

To sum it up, your claim that Chipmixer "stole everyone's coins" was a lie, or at the very least an exaggeration. And your second claim, again unsubstantiated, that they "turned over their data to the government" is equally bogus. You're either delusional or deliberately spreading misinformation.

It's not an "exaggeration", ChipMixer explicitly claimed that they delete the private keys:

Destroying the session deletes chip private key.

^This was a scam.

That's your opinion, but I disagree. They were seized by a government and all available private keys were confiscated. That's not the definition of a scam.

But you specifically stated "they stole everyone's coins". Was that a lie?

You don't defend yourself against "false accusations" by wishing someone dead, or by coming to someone's "farewell" thread to gloat over their imminent demise. Have some respect.

I didn't "wish someone dead", I posted proof that o_e_l_e_o knew the accusations he was making were false.

That's another lie. Here's your original post in o_e_l_e_o's "farewell" thread: https://ninjastic.space/post/63517379
That post contains no proofs whatsoever, just your baseless opinion and a disgusting comment about his terminal illness.
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January 29, 2024, 11:07:17 AM
I didn't "wish someone dead", I posted proof that o_e_l_e_o knew the accusations he was making were false.
Even if you know that the accusations he was making weren't right you should not post comments like that on his farewell thread. When he was present on this forum and no one was aware of his health issue then you could create a thread and come up with your accusations.

However, you have chosen a wrong thread to make those comments as his farewell message shocked the all members of the forum and no one even thought that something like that could happen to a doctor. I hope by now you might understand that whatever you said wasn't right especially in a thread like that.

Trust me your comment on that thread hurt the feelings of many members of the forum. We as humans should understand that sometimes our words in wrong occasions can hurt others feelings. I'm not sure what's with you or with o_e_l_e_o, but if must say that your comment wasn't right on that thread.
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January 29, 2024, 08:42:34 AM
No matter how things are between you and o_e_l_e_o I don't think him having a short time to live is something you should be happy about, is like you're taking advantage of the fact that he's not going to be here to defend himself to say some crazy things.

I'm not saying "crazy things", I provided o_e_l_e_o's own quotes that prove he was lying about innocent non custodial open source privacy projects and telling people to deposit their coins into a scam that stole depositor funds and turned over user data to the government.

Come on OP,  even if he did something you don't like or he stole your money or something, that shouldn't make you wish him death, at least he never prayed you stop breathing , give him the last respect he deserves and not the way you're going about business. Try and keep a better legacy too, who knows this guy o_e_l_e_o can make it past this month next year and many more years, I just wish him well where ever he is.

"Even if he stole your money"?...

I'm curious, how would you feel if someone who was impostering your profile to scam people out of their money died?  Would you say "well, at least my imposter deserves respect"?

So now we accept someone else's claims as evidence? OK... But it seems to me that you have double standards.

What do you mean I have "double standards"?  Can you provide an example?

OK. Assuming these claims are true (and I have no reason to doubt them, I'm just pointing out that they do not constitute irrefutable evidence), based on the information provided, it's reasonable to conclude that ChipMixer did not steal those coins, but rather a government agency confiscated them.

To sum it up, your claim that Chipmixer "stole everyone's coins" was a lie, or at the very least an exaggeration. And your second claim, again unsubstantiated, that they "turned over their data to the government" is equally bogus. You're either delusional or deliberately spreading misinformation.

It's not an "exaggeration", ChipMixer explicitly claimed that they delete the private keys:

Destroying the session deletes chip private key.

^This was a scam.

You don't defend yourself against "false accusations" by wishing someone dead, or by coming to someone's "farewell" thread to gloat over their imminent demise. Have some respect.

I didn't "wish someone dead", I posted proof that o_e_l_e_o knew the accusations he was making were false.
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January 29, 2024, 08:36:08 AM
While I think we're getting a bit off track, but you're the one spreading lies here.

1. Chipmixer did NOT steal everyone's deposits, and you have no evidence to back up that claim.

2. Chipmixer has NOT handed over any of their data to the government, and you have no proof of that either.  They were seized. As for the content of the seized data, we can only speculate, the evidence is inconclusive.

3. When Leo recommended using that centralized mixing service, it was a trusted and respected platform in the community. It was promoted/endorsed by many high-ranking members, not just him, and I've never heard of any legitimate scam accusations against them. I can personally testify that they were a legitimate service, as I have used them on numerous occasions without any issues.

Here's the evidence that backs up my claim:

Even my chips which I had in chipmixer service for which they claimed to "delete private" keys after 7 days or whatever, were seized/transfered. and these transactions took place good 3 months ago.
It seems that you are right, whoever had vouchers or chips was left without them. I checked some old wallets older than 1 year that only contained chips from CM, and they were all emptied. Yes, it's a bit stupid that I didn't spend them, but honestly I forgot about a few $ in those old wallets. It's really strange that it wasn't all deleted, but now we at least know where even 7GB of data came from.
Can confirm, they stole a chip of mine a friend of mine that he hadn't yet spent. :/ Really fucking bad practice of ChipMixer to keep private keys, not gonna lie.
It was still there today morning and even when the news broke here; I he had not considered that private keys may have been backed up on CM servers to be honest.

So now we accept someone else's claims as evidence? OK... But it seems to me that you have double standards.

OK. Assuming these claims are true (and I have no reason to doubt them, I'm just pointing out that they do not constitute irrefutable evidence), based on the information provided, it's reasonable to conclude that ChipMixer did not steal those coins, but rather a government agency confiscated them.

To sum it up, your claim that Chipmixer "stole everyone's coins" was a lie, or at the very least an exaggeration. And your second claim, again unsubstantiated, that they "turned over their data to the government" is equally bogus. You're either delusional or deliberately spreading misinformation.


If someone falsely accused you of rape for years, wouldn't you relentlessly defend yourself against the false accusation by posting the proof that the accuser was lying the entire time?

You don't defend yourself against "false accusations" by wishing someone dead, or by coming to someone's "farewell" thread to gloat over their imminent demise. Have some respect.
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January 29, 2024, 08:15:04 AM
I see no sense in this.
Death is never a good thing even if Leo had offended you indirectly in the past you should at least bid him a farewell based on his condition. Not everyone is strong enough to fight cancer for over a decade.

Actually, I would say the opposite:  Since o_e_l_e_o doesn't have much time left to make things right, he should use this chance to correct the record and apologize for knowingly spreading lies about weaknesses in Bitcoin's privacy.  Bitcointalk posts are a legacy you leave behind even after you die, so it's worth it to extend eternity your honesty.

No matter how things are between you and o_e_l_e_o I don't think him having a short time to live is something you should be happy about, is like you're taking advantage of the fact that he's not going to be here to defend himself to say some crazy things.
Come on OP,  even if he did something you don't like or he stole your money or something, that shouldn't make you wish him death, at least he never prayed you stop breathing , give him the last respect he deserves and not the way you're going about business. Try and keep a better legacy too, who knows this guy o_e_l_e_o can make it past this month next year and many more years, I just wish him well where ever he is.
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January 29, 2024, 07:39:25 AM
Let's be honest now, those high ranking members have no idea if the clients of that mixing service were getting logged or not. (just like we don't know what information the government got from seizing the service) Was [BannedMixer] an open source project? As far as I know, no. Then who can guarantee any safety of anything that happened on that platform?

Some of the current mixing services may very well be a trap being operated by the state btw.

Given that these "high ranking members" have no way to guarantee their claims about the trustworthiness of the mixer they are promoting, that makes their attacks against trustless open source privacy projects even more of a betrayal.
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January 29, 2024, 07:20:04 AM
I would say a decentralized mixing service is superior to any centralized mixing service, especially if the code is open source. (I have no idea if wasabi is capable of doing it, not interested at the moment, i am talking in general)

Let's be honest now, those high ranking members have no idea if the clients of that mixing service were getting logged or not. (just like we don't know what information the government got from seizing the service) Was [BannedMixer] an open source project? As far as I know, no. Then who can guarantee any safety of anything that happened on that platform?

Some of the current mixing services may very well be a trap being operated by the state btw.
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January 29, 2024, 07:16:44 AM
While I think we're getting a bit off track, but you're the one spreading lies here.

1. Chipmixer did NOT steal everyone's deposits, and you have no evidence to back up that claim.

2. Chipmixer has NOT handed over any of their data to the government, and you have no proof of that either.  They were seized. As for the content of the seized data, we can only speculate, the evidence is inconclusive.

3. When Leo recommended using that centralized mixing service, it was a trusted and respected platform in the community. It was promoted/endorsed by many high-ranking members, not just him, and I've never heard of any legitimate scam accusations against them. I can personally testify that they were a legitimate service, as I have used them on numerous occasions without any issues.

Here's the evidence that backs up my claim:

Even my chips which I had in chipmixer service for which they claimed to "delete private" keys after 7 days or whatever, were seized/transfered. and these transactions took place good 3 months ago.
It seems that you are right, whoever had vouchers or chips was left without them. I checked some old wallets older than 1 year that only contained chips from CM, and they were all emptied. Yes, it's a bit stupid that I didn't spend them, but honestly I forgot about a few $ in those old wallets. It's really strange that it wasn't all deleted, but now we at least know where even 7GB of data came from.
Can confirm, they stole a chip of mine a friend of mine that he hadn't yet spent. :/ Really fucking bad practice of ChipMixer to keep private keys, not gonna lie.
It was still there today morning and even when the news broke here; I he had not considered that private keys may have been backed up on CM servers to be honest.

So, while the claim that a centralized mixer service offers comparable or superior privacy to Wasabi can be considered a matter of opinion, it is unfair and inaccurate to label it as an outright lie.

No, it's a literal outright lie.  The privacy of Wasabi is strictly superior because no one is trusted with your financial history.  With ChipMixer, your financial history is completely exposed to the trusted third party.

The general perception others have of your character is shaped by your actions and interactions within the community, not by your ability to argue your stance or your relentless pursuit of self-justification.

If someone falsely accused you of rape for years, wouldn't you relentlessly defend yourself against the false accusation by posting the proof that the accuser was lying the entire time?
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January 29, 2024, 06:55:22 AM
I only ever saw him recommend custodial mixers when people were specifically willing to trust a custodian to mix their coins. He could've been more outspoken about the risks associated with them but it is not his responsibility to stop people from doing something stupid.

No, he specifically was recommending the custodian that leaked everyone's data and stole everyone's coins on the thread of a non custodial privacy wallet:

August 23 2022 – o_e_l_e_o lies and says the custodian he partnered with that stole everyone’s deposits and turned over their data to the government has as good or better privacy than Wasabi

If projects such as Samourai, JoinMarket, ChipMixer, Bisq, LocalCryptos, Monero, and anything else which gives users as good or better privacy than Wasabi can continue unencumbered, then Wasabi can too. They simply choose not to.

While I think we're getting a bit off track, but you're the one spreading lies here.

1. Chipmixer did NOT steal everyone's deposits, and you have no evidence to back up that claim.

2. Chipmixer has NOT handed over any of their data to the government, and you have no proof of that either.  They were seized. As for the content of the seized data, we can only speculate, the evidence is inconclusive.

3. When Leo recommended using that centralized mixing service, it was a trusted and respected platform in the community. It was promoted/endorsed by many high-ranking members, not just him, and I've never heard of any legitimate scam accusations against them. I can personally testify that they were a legitimate service, as I have used them on numerous occasions without any issues.

So, while the claim that a centralized mixer service offers comparable or superior privacy to Wasabi can be considered a matter of opinion, it is unfair and inaccurate to label it as an outright lie.



Nope. General consensus suggests you're an asshole in this case.  Your self-assessment is irrelevant.

Good thing that general consensus and self assessment don't matter because I have proof (not opinions) backing up this thread.

The general perception others have of your character is shaped by your actions and interactions within the community, not by your ability to argue your stance or your relentless pursuit of self-justification.
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January 29, 2024, 05:25:27 AM
I don't see any problems with the kinds of statements from o_e_l_e_o  and his continued assertions of not trusting Wasabi wallet... maybe he is wrong about some things, but I doubt that his conduct rises to the level of intentionally lying or misleading even if he was wrong or admitted that he was wrong about some of Wasabi's practices.

The first two quotes establish the fact that the lying was intentional.  In March 2022, o_e_l_e_o was completely aware that using Wasabi does not lead to data being provided to blockchain analysis.

and I still believe that o_e_l_e_o tended to post in good faith, even though I can recall that sometimes he took some pretty strict privacy stances

Here's proof that o_e_l_e_o was posting in bad faith the entire time because he took extremely anti-privacy stances in support of the custodial mixing site he was promoting: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.62803897

I only ever saw him recommend custodial mixers when people were specifically willing to trust a custodian to mix their coins. He could've been more outspoken about the risks associated with them but it is not his responsibility to stop people from doing something stupid.

No, he specifically was recommending the custodian that leaked everyone's data and stole everyone's coins on the thread of a non custodial privacy wallet:

August 23 2022 – o_e_l_e_o lies and says the custodian he partnered with that stole everyone’s deposits and turned over their data to the government has as good or better privacy than Wasabi

If projects such as Samourai, JoinMarket, ChipMixer, Bisq, LocalCryptos, Monero, and anything else which gives users as good or better privacy than Wasabi can continue unencumbered, then Wasabi can too. They simply choose not to.

You correctly identified this tactic:

Several posts in this and some other threads do give off the appearance of being thinly veiled attempts to promote competing privacy services. It seems odd that people who advertised failed mixer after failed mixer are so laser focused on Wasabi. Custodial mixers aren’t held to nearly the same standard despite having a much higher risk of losing money. It is only natural to question people’s motivations when attacking one service but ignoring or downplaying glaring problems with custodial mixers.

I am not in agreement with zkSNACKS decision to prohibit supposedly "tainted" coins from entering their coinjoins but as a private business they have the right to deny their service to whomever they choose.

I am not in agreement with that decision either, I don't care about the origin of the funds I coinjoin with.

This is a huge allegation that it better be true with the way you are saying it. I also read a lot of replies to others on the general post I managed to cut off the excerpt of mine, and I must say that this is so serious. You take this too personally to the point that I begin to have concerns, and for that, giving you more audience now as a lot could even be happening behind the scenes truly.

But first, you need proof to convince us on this forum rather than a mere allegation. Anyone can allege another, it is not new, and you who could have known this much should be able to have one or two proofs to back it up too. I will never attack anyone. They say talk is cheap, but action is better, I expect that from you soon.

Check the OP of the thread, I provided a detailed timeline.

Nope. General consensus suggests you're an asshole in this case.  Your self-assessment is irrelevant.

Good thing that general consensus and self assessment don't matter because I have proof (not opinions) backing up this thread.
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January 29, 2024, 05:01:52 AM
So you are basically saying you have no basic human traits and operate under the same guise as a weak AI or pre-programmed chatbot? Noted. Here's a truth for you, which you should be able to accept; You're an asshole.

Actually, o_e_l_e_o is an asshole.  

Nope. General consensus suggests you're an asshole in this case.  Your self-assessment is irrelevant.
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January 29, 2024, 03:39:36 AM
Bro, you are entitled to all your opinions, but at times, we should be more human and be insensitive.

What I see you doing here is so insensitive. Fine, you and the guy could have had one or two issues together, but it is just a forum where we share opinions, and nothing more. We could be trolled at times or even get so angry but it shouldn't be unto death. This person is dying and what you could do is to be engaging in all sorts like this? It is certainly not fair.

The best you could have done is to just ignore the thread if you still hold a grudge against him. Let's be human for once.

This isn't a matter of "one or two issues" or "opinions":  Did you know o_e_l_e_o was knowingly lying to Bitcointalk users to trick them out of gaining privacy on their Bitcoins so the custodian he was promoting could steal those Bitcoins and turn the data of those Bitcointalk users over to the government?
This is a huge allegation that it better be true with the way you are saying it. I also read a lot of replies to others on the general post I managed to cut off the excerpt of mine, and I must say that this is so serious. You take this too personally to the point that I begin to have concerns, and for that, giving you more audience now as a lot could even be happening behind the scenes truly.

But first, you need proof to convince us on this forum rather than a mere allegation. Anyone can allege another, it is not new, and you who could have known this much should be able to have one or two proofs to back it up too. I will never attack anyone. They say talk is cheap, but action is better, I expect that from you soon.
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