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Please.  The Red Sea was parted to make a point as much as safe passage.  I think this God can make his will known without the say-so  & stamp of approval from some old fogies.

You sound like a good person. Good people will be good with or without God. Religion is a way for good people to rationalize all the bad that exists in the world without going crazy. It also gives them a tool to try to make bad people good. I guess from that standpoint there is nothing wrong with religion. I'm glad you found something to give you comfort.

Because anyone can say anything, but God put many things on the record for us, and signed them with fulfilment. For one, Isaiah was authenticated in this way even before his prophecies of the messiah which were fulfilled in Christ.

Okay, so bitcoin is like Jesus(peace be with him), and the current banking system is like the pharisees.
As for end times prophecies, bitcoin is certainly one more step towards the end of the universe, just like every breath we take and every heartbeat.  
    Its because of my love for Jesus that I have to point out that coptic, roman catholic(and subsequently protestants), and orthodox Christians all include different books in their compilations of the bible. The current bible and Christian doctrine, including the doctrine of trinitarianism was established at the Council of Nicea three centuries after Jesus' ascension, and only received Emperor Constantine's approval because he wanted a unified doctrine for political reasons. All other viewpoints were then stamped out through torture, executions, and destruction of texts. Some of the texts that survived are included in the Nag Hammadi library.
     At the council of Nicea, St. Nicholas argued for trinitarianism, and a man named Arius argued for the unity of God. The argument became so heated that Nicholas slapped Arius in the face. Nicholas won the debate. I guess Arius just turned the other cheek.
     Given the disparity in various collections of the bible, small nuances in translation that can work out to major differences over the centuries, the questionable authorship of the bible(i.e.: Matthew, Mark, Luke and John did not actually write the gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John), and the fact that Paul, the author of at least 15 of the books of the new testament, arrested, tortured, and killed Christians for living(yes, I am implying that St. Paul may have been a double agent) and also a tutor to the scribes who wrote some of the other books of the new testament, considering all of this I hold the bible in profound esteem and certainly consider the wisdom in it to be divine, however, I read it with caution knowing that it has most certainly been sullied by the hands of men. I mean no disrespect to anyone who believes the bible to be in its entirety to be divine word, and may God forgive me if I am mistaken.
     In the interest of truth and honoring the Messiah(may peace and blessings be with him) I write these words here. Actually I am just a troll. HA! Just joking.
Peace

[21] That is why some Jews seized me in the temple courts and tried to kill me. [22] But God has helped me to this very day; so I stand here and testify to small and great alike. I am saying nothing beyond what the prophets and Moses said would happen-- [23] that the Messiah would suffer and, as the first to rise from the dead, would bring the message of light to his own people and to the Gentiles." - Acts 26:21-23 NIV

I expect all sorts of things from all sorts of people. Never has this debate been not silly.
I would like to hope that if Im talking to someone, and I say namaste, they will not burn a cross on my lawn garden.

That's the definition as Islam would have it. That makes any old psychic hotline lady a prophet as well.

No, the way it was done in the OT was that if someone had a message with a prophecy from God to declare, they would stand before the elders of that time and deliver it. The scribes would record and notarize it. That way, if it came true, it would be on the record who said it, and further attention would be paid to the other things they said. There was extremely little tolerance for false prophets, so such was rarely attempted. This is why we have the books of the prophets.

In other words, when you say "satanism" you mean something entirely different than what you expect others mean by the same word
Sounds like a great way to start silly debates

That is a good question.  I can see your point.  I have no problem studying all religions and beliefs or philosophies or even reading books that I do not "agree" with.  It is really important to understand others and where they are coming from.  I think many Christians are ignorant about what others believe.  All religions have some good elements in them, otherwise why would anyone follow them?  So in order to respect others, it is really important to try to understand them!  That said, there are things that I can instantly know is not right and be selective and not allow myself to look at.  For example, pornography is one thing.  It is degrading to women.  I suppose someone could justify it in that it celebrates the beauty of women, etc, but I think that it leads to lust and thoughts that are not "pure" so I try to to avoid having it around our house.  I really don't want to expose my kids to it either.  So, I shelter myself, and my children from it.  Or songs that are violent, angry, full of cussing etc.  What good comes from that?  I am not necessarily opposed to any style of songs, per se, although I really don't care for rap too much, but if the message behind the song is good then I thing is is great.  There are many TV shows I will not watch after watching it once or twice.  Why?  The message in the show is trying to promote a lifestyle, or thinking that is hedonistic.  I have found in my life that if I allow those things in I slowly begin to think that those things are normal.  We can see the shift in our own society.  There were things that were not accepted 50 or 60 years ago that are now "normal."  Many would say that is a "good" thing.  I, on the other hand, think it is a dangerous movement.  Also, there are so many different ideas out there.  How does one know what truth really is?  We are in a world that is getting to a point where there is almost no belief in absolute truth at all.  Everything is becoming more relative.  I personally believe in absolute truth and that my foundation is the Bible.  This is my own personal belief and I know many of you will stop reading right there and say I am a Bible-thumper and discredit everything else I say.  But that is where I am coming from.  I suppose someone could argue that the Bible is my "blindfold."  I think the Bible has become my lens that I try to look through to measure what is good, right, pure etc.

I guess the question I have is why wouldn't people selectively pick what they watch?  Do they think that they can just watch anything and it won't affect them? Do they see things that they don't agree with but then not worry about it affecting them? Maybe they do not even have a moral compass by which to measure things?  I think it is just that whatever is entertaining, or interesting, or funny, or makes them feel good etc. is what most people watch, read, or fill their minds with, personally. (not all people I know)

Also, it is wrong to try to shelter myself, or my children, from things that are not wholesome?  

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Are you saying that Muhammad was *not* a prophet?  Read the definition:
"In religion, a prophet is an individual who is claimed to have been contacted by the supernatural or the divine, and to speak for them, serving as an intermediary with humanity, delivering this newfound knowledge from the supernatural entity to other people.[1][2] The message that the prophet conveys is called a prophecy." ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prophets_of_Islam#Table_of_prophets.2Fmessengers_in_the_Quran )

Satanism, as with any number of ideologies, is a tangled wreck of intersecting themes, ideas, practices and interpretations.
My satanism redefines deity into something so radically mundane as to render sacredness itself common. Of course, I maintain that this redefinition is needed for any valid discussion of god to be more than a creepy, overmedicated set of empty quotes and salesmanship of snipehunting gear.

Sex and drugs are tempting for a reason.

I have been hurt by people in the church too, but it still does not change who God is and the fact that the Bible is true.  I think the thing that pains God more than anything (and we see this in the parables when Jesus tells off the rabbis and Pharisees) is when those that are supposed to be following Him hurt others, especially children!  The Bible even says "If anyone causes one of these little ones--those who believe in me--to stumble, it would be better for them to have a large millstone hung around their neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea."

From life itself.. walking with God for a change, trusting Christ and finding him faithful every single day since, and finding this verse quite true. I wish I had time to elaborate, but that's the root of it.

Just in case one thinks all religions are the same...

Let it be known that Islam is more like Judaism + 1 prophet + another prophet (who didn't prophesy) – every prophet and passage that contradicts the later revelations of said prophet + a few essential conspiracy theories to glue it together.

I have heard it from their mouths, in person. Even a widely regarded cleric said: "If not for the punishment of apostasy, Islam would have ended with Mohammed"

If we don't have control over what we think, & therefore your actions, how is it I can be punished for being a product of my environment?

DONT WHATEVER YOU DO, THINK ABOUT A PINK BANANA. ITS A DEADLY SIN IF YOU DO.

Opps, sorry folks, did you think about that pink banana? Off to hell with you.

There is nothing wrong with trying to protect your children. In fact, that's your job as a parent. The sad truth is that the parents are not the ones, at least in my country, that corrupt children. It's the public school system, peer pressure, Sunday school and summer camp that corrupt children. The first time I got high was after church with the son of one of the church deacons. The first time I got laid was under the bleachers after school. Both were great experiences by the way.

Just a tiny technical detail:  Satanism is not an argument against theism, it *is* theism.  What's cuter still is the common variants are little more than Christian striation cults.  From simplistic inversions of Christian teachings and symbols (Good->Evil, Cross->Upside-down Cross) to sublime interpretations of Sufis*, who worship Satan as the greatest lover of God -- like Christ, receiving the ultimate punishment for embodying the ultimate truth**.

*Islam, at least for the nonbelievers: Judaism +1 prophet = Christianity, +another prophet = Islam.

**The punishment, of course, is not defeat, but being cast away from the one he adored (God).  As he fell to the depths of hell, a feather parted from his wing.  As it fell to earth, it became Satan's first gift to man: Freedom.

Do you know what the term is for somebody who has studied the Bible from cover to cover?







An atheist.

That is a good question.  I can see your point.  I have no problem studying all religions and beliefs or philosophies or even reading books that I do not "agree" with.  It is really important to understand others and where they are coming from.  I think many Christians are ignorant about what others believe.  All religions have some good elements in them, otherwise why would anyone follow them?  So in order to respect others, it is really important to try to understand them!  That said, there are things that I can instantly know is not right and be selective and not allow myself to look at.  For example, pornography is one thing.  It is degrading to women.  I suppose someone could justify it in that it celebrates the beauty of women, etc, but I think that it leads to lust and thoughts that are not "pure" so I try to to avoid having it around our house.  I really don't want to expose my kids to it either.  So, I shelter myself, and my children from it.  Or songs that are violent, angry, full of cussing etc.  What good comes from that?  I am not necessarily opposed to any style of songs, per se, although I really don't care for rap too much, but if the message behind the song is good then I thing is is great.  There are many TV shows I will not watch after watching it once or twice.  Why?  The message in the show is trying to promote a lifestyle, or thinking that is hedonistic.  I have found in my life that if I allow those things in I slowly begin to think that those things are normal.  We can see the shift in our own society.  There were things that were not accepted 50 or 60 years ago that are now "normal."  Many would say that is a "good" thing.  I, on the other hand, think it is a dangerous movement.  Also, there are so many different ideas out there.  How does one know what truth really is?  We are in a world that is getting to a point where there is almost no belief in absolute truth at all.  Everything is becoming more relative.  I personally believe in absolute truth and that my foundation is the Bible.  This is my own personal belief and I know many of you will stop reading right there and say I am a Bible-thumper and discredit everything else I say.  But that is where I am coming from.  I suppose someone could argue that the Bible is my "blindfold."  I think the Bible has become my lens that I try to look through to measure what is good, right, pure etc.

I guess the question I have is why wouldn't people selectively pick what they watch?  Do they think that they can just watch anything and it won't affect them? Do they see things that they don't agree with but then not worry about it affecting them? Maybe they do not even have a moral compass by which to measure things?  I think it is just that whatever is entertaining, or interesting, or funny, or makes them feel good etc. is what most people watch, read, or fill their minds with, personally. (not all people I know)

Also, it is wrong to try to shelter myself, or my children, from things that are not wholesome?