Topic: ▄▀▄▀▄ Remove Corruption From DT - Union Trust List ▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀&#9604 - page 12. (Read 8058 times)

Cool, I made another list  

Chill out Super Wario. I already outlined for you my rationale why I added them.

I still support Bruno and I always will.

Since it offended your feelings so much (and was a largely inconsequential move to begin with), I took you off my precious tilde list. But after reading what you wrote about me, I should probably consider re-adding you.

pms coming of supporters adding list but stay private

progress

No, you didn't read (or you didn't understand) my post... that is exactly what I said you said... you want "only confirmed buyers/sellers to be able to leave feedback". Is that not what you mean when you say "trust is implemented after buying and selling"?

You still haven't addressed the fact that there is NO WAY to be able to do this on the Bitcointalk platform. As I said, this is a discussion board... it isn't geared towards online commerce. The fact that people can arrange trades does not make this a proper eCommerce platform with buyer/seller protection built in. There is a reason why everyone advocates for using trusted escrows. Without it, there is NO protection.


Because the trust rating you left is still there... everyone can see your feedback, if they chose to click "untrusted" feedback... and if they have you on their trust list, it'll even show up as "trusted". That's how trust works.

I always check ALL the feedback that a user has... but that's me. If people are too lazy to do that, then that's their problem.

No, it isn't babysitting... it is enabling users to make informed and considered decisions.

If DT were not able to tag an obviously sold/bought account (which is what gwsukabokepjerang is advocating for, they want only "confirmed" buyers/sellers to be able to leave feedback)... how exactly is a "dumb lender" supposed to conduct "due diligence and risk calculation"? How would the "dumb lender" even know that the account was sold?

The obvious flaw in gwsukabokepjerang's argument, is that there is no facility to confirm buyers/sellers on this platform. There is nothing to stop a user from creating 100 alt accounts and leaving themselves 100 positive reviews. How would that let a user conduct due diligence? This place is a discussion board first and foremost... and simply has a "marketplace" board where people can put buy/sell notices. This is not amazon, it is not ebay... yet, that seems to be what they want... BitcointalkBay or something? *shrug*

Anyway, personally, I'm more for tagging bought/sold accounts as "neutral", as opposed to insta-tagging them red... This would then flag the account as bought/sold, so users know that previous trade history and feedback is no longer valid. If users are not checking the complete trust history (trusted AND untrusted) of anyone they conduct business with, then that is their problem. I'm a big fan of personal responsibility... just like "be your own bank"... you need to "be your own security department"!  

If a neutral tagged account then does something stupid like scam or spam for sig etc... then sure, go and tag them red.

Unbeknownst to the lender, the account was sold last week. Is it fair that the new "owner" has all that green trust listed on their account? Does this allow the lender to make an "informed" decision regarding the trustworthiness of the borrower?

After Lauda got off DT things were quiet and peaceful around here and I was sleeping the sleep of the innocent. Then Theymos decided to shake things up again, rather rudely. That's what woke me up. I had preferred to stay asleep. 

I have never seen anything like this before in Reputation.

Account Deena woke up after 5 months, and from where are all these newbie accounts coming from...

Request sent to theymos.
Will start bidding after receiving his reply

I doubt Theymos will allow the advertisement of false accusations.

What you guys think about buying advertisement of this thread on BCT ?
Let's use the tools the forum is providing to us.
We can make a red banner with their usernames and add words like Abuse or Scam and redirect that traffic to that topic.
According to theymos a single banner ad gets over 1.000.000 views so you can say the whole board will be quickly informed about our activity.

I'm going to PM theymos asking if he would approve such an ad.

Sounds like you are merely trying to rationalize and justify your own admitted behavior to solicit the purchase of an account.

I am pretty sure that there has been buying and selling of forum accounts since before I was a member (more than 5 years), of course the dynamics likely changed due to changed circumstances, such as the merit system that you mentioned and likely the changes to trust could affect the selling of accounts dynamics.

If you are in a rush to get an account because you want to use it for commercial reasons, then I understand, the reason for the rush; however, if you are merely wanting to engage in the normal forum activities of participating in the sharing of bitcoin (and perhaps other crypto) related information, then you are able to engage in those activities right away.. zero merit and no trust, and with the passage of time, and honest participation you will build your forum credibility.  I will concede that could take several years to really build credibility - unless you are an exceptional case  and there have been several members who have risen in the forum ranks of both merit and trust quickly, but those are likely exceptions rather than normal situations.

are you one of VINSIN alts account???
nice joke!
Of course it's appropriate, i bought from him and he scammed me.

He has not even tell us how many customers he have scammed!