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November 20, 2024, 04:40:25 PM
#81
More reasons why government still ban different casino due to common mistakes and act gamblers display. The best way IMO involves government ban. If this act continue I’m sure they’ll go as far as using personal verification for other purpose not just gambling leading to more risk. I’m not surprised seeing such news with the rate gamblers go just to play and win is unpredictable, how can one protect their details should be the important question now, nothing is safe especially when it’s expose to wider audience etc definitely or maybe they’re involved also.
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November 20, 2024, 04:15:34 PM
#80
Things like this are proof that in the end, regardless of the existence of KYC or not, everything can still be tricked and in my opinion something like this is bound to happen and may even become a common situation even though this method is clearly against the rules because it could become a criminal act if it continues to be forced to use other people's data.

Not that KYC is a bad thing but on some occasions for some people who really want anonymity or people who are only focused on their desire for profit sometimes can do this way so that they remain unrecognizable and still want to do gambling.
Will this be a disadvantage? technically for casinos it may not be affected but it is a different story for people whose data is used, maybe this is also divided for those who consciously lend their data but what about data that is taken without the person's knowledge of course this will be very detrimental in the end.
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November 20, 2024, 04:15:23 PM
#79
It will be difficult to limit them, because there are many ways they can access gambling sites, not only IP, but they can also use fake devices, so the stricter the casino site, the more they will find many ways to still be able to access online sites.
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November 20, 2024, 04:10:08 PM
#78
There are multitude of reasons why a gambler may be banned in a casino. Whether it is because of suspicious activity or misconduct, the casino doesn't just ban or restrict a gambler for no valid reason. But it seems like these restricted gamblers have found a way to still gamble. There is a group of people who would "borrow" the identity of others to continue betting. They would use other people's identification documents such as passports or driver's licenses. They would give it up once the rewards have been collected.

This article warns people about their privacy and is encouraging us to keep our information private as to not be stolen and used by other people for any illicit activities. Some people may allow their identity to be borrowed for a price of money but remember that if one of these restricted gamblers do anything illegal with your identity, it is you who will be in trouble.

There are other ways for a casino to ban a gambler but gamblers seem to always find a way which is just a tedious cycle for the casinos. What are your thoughts? Because even if they ban the ip address, gamblers can still use a vpn. Are there other ways that a casino can ban or restrict a gambler for good?

While you might argue it's a bit unfair to the casino that groups are creating arbitrage betting opportunities by taking over accounts that are freely lent to them, these bookmakers are making such huge profits that it's hard to have much sympathy when people are able to figure out a way to take money back from them. As long as there is no fraud taking place, like identity theft or using stolen cards, then good for the people that are allowing this to happen I say - if they were actually placing the bets directly and taking a small commission then it would be completely undetectable. It seems safe in the sense that no KYC documents are likely to be exposed after the account is validated, but I personally would never take the trade because it does still pose risks.
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November 20, 2024, 03:36:12 PM
#77
This type of gambling is not new here, and in my ear, even in this forum, there have been some few times I have come across threads on the service board where the OP asks to buy some high-profile gambling account of a specific casino, and they must be verified, which they could also be used for such type of betting. 
 
On the other hand, sometimes the user doesn't just give out their information willingly for it to be used by others to register and gamble with them on a gambling platform, but their identity can be bought from dark webs, where, from one breach of a platform, they submitted it to their information, which has been extracted and sold out.
 
It's very important we just try as much as possible to always protect the limit at which we release our information to online platforms; you don't know which ones are selling them to third parties.
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November 20, 2024, 03:27:52 PM
#76
There are other ways for a casino to ban a gambler but gamblers seem to always find a way which is just a tedious cycle for the casinos. What are your thoughts? Because even if they ban the ip address, gamblers can still use a vpn. Are there other ways that a casino can ban or restrict a gambler for good?

Cheaters and violators are very innovative; they know how the system works and they will do things to bypass that; they will just change the provider and log in from a different device, but they will still be caught because some casinos are using Google coordinates to track your location. Even though you changed your IP and device, you might as well change your location.
So the point is that it's costly and takes too much effort to bypass the security, so its better just to abide by the terms and not cheat.
There's always a way and if you are really that wanting or liking to do something then its part of human nature that you will really be trying out to look for some loopholes as long you could be able to push through then this would really be that your main priority. There are really just that those instances that you might fail but doesnt mean that you will be stopping there.
People would be only stopping on the time or moment that they do failed up or seeing having no chances. Restrictions or bans will really be imposed depending on the situation
but we do know that there would really be those people who would really be doing something forcibly.
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November 20, 2024, 02:54:58 PM
#75
There are multitude of reasons why a gambler may be banned in a casino. Whether it is because of suspicious activity or misconduct, the casino doesn't just ban or restrict a gambler for no valid reason. But it seems like these restricted gamblers have found a way to still gamble. There is a group of people who would "borrow" the identity of others to continue betting. They would use other people's identification documents such as passports or driver's licenses. They would give it up once the rewards have been collected.

This article warns people about their privacy and is encouraging us to keep our information private as to not be stolen and used by other people for any illicit activities. Some people may allow their identity to be borrowed for a price of money but remember that if one of these restricted gamblers do anything illegal with your identity, it is you who will be in trouble.

There are other ways for a casino to ban a gambler but gamblers seem to always find a way which is just a tedious cycle for the casinos. What are your thoughts? Because even if they ban the ip address, gamblers can still use a vpn. Are there other ways that a casino can ban or restrict a gambler for good?
If you would really be trying out to wander around on social media on which you would really be able to see those individuals who do offer such service on creating some fake id's with having fake information and names on which this is really that something be used by those people who are really that addicted to gambling on which with so much progress we do have into these years on which it will really be  that not hard on trying out to create or fabricate some fake ID's just to make use in to those other purposes on which this isnt really just that limited on gambling alone but also in other things well on which if they are really that addicted or really that wanting to deal up with something then they will really be finding up ways and methods on which they can make use of it.

If you are already that becoming a gambling addict then you would really be finding out ways and methods on which you could be able to play neither online or offline by using up those fake id's or information.
You wouldnt really be caring out as long you do able to cater out your addiction on which this is something which is really that typical. One of the main reasons on why gambling is really that profitable
business into its owners due to that common human being behavior on which this is something that cant be easily be avoided.
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November 20, 2024, 02:35:32 PM
#74
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Moreover, people's personal data is now easily and cheaply traded in online groups - and what's even funnier is that there are people who are willing to give their identities to be used by them for a small fee.
LOL, this is what often happens even Data managed by my government in Indonesia with many users can be hacked and traded with many identities that can be used for anything. And this is very easy to get now if it is indeed going to be used for gambling purposes.

And some people also consciously sell their IDs for just a few dollars only, and this has happened in almost all crypto and gambling sectors.
But more often than not, crypto projects require KYC and will then get quite expensive coin rewards.
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November 20, 2024, 02:16:14 PM
#73
There are other ways for a casino to ban a gambler but gamblers seem to always find a way which is just a tedious cycle for the casinos. What are your thoughts? Because even if they ban the ip address, gamblers can still use a vpn. Are there other ways that a casino can ban or restrict a gambler for good?

Cheaters and violators are very innovative; they know how the system works and they will do things to bypass that; they will just change the provider and log in from a different device, but they will still be caught because some casinos are using Google coordinates to track your location. Even though you changed your IP and device, you might as well change your location.
So the point is that it's costly and takes too much effort to bypass the security, so its better just to abide by the terms and not cheat.
legendary
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November 20, 2024, 02:13:29 PM
#72
Are there other ways that a casino can ban or restrict a gambler for good?

In an online gambling platform, as long as the gambling platform does not impose a strict KYC where players have to do a video verification, or allow an anonymous gambling then it would be hard for the casino to restrict ban gambler from using their platform since these banned gambler will just register again bypassing the ban through creating a new account.

I do not think that an online casino can ban a player for good since they can be able to access the platform anytime this banned player wanted and I think the casino try to combat this exploit by implementing KYC before a player is able to withdraw any funds.  By that there is no reason for the gambler to use the platform because he won't be able to withdraw any of his winnings due to the restrictions imploemented.
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November 20, 2024, 02:12:24 PM
#71
There are multitude of reasons why a gambler may be banned in a casino. Whether it is because of suspicious activity or misconduct, the casino doesn't just ban or restrict a gambler for no valid reason. But it seems like these restricted gamblers have found a way to still gamble. There is a group of people who would "borrow" the identity of others to continue betting. They would use other people's identification documents such as passports or driver's licenses. They would give it up once the rewards have been collected.

This article warns people about their privacy and is encouraging us to keep our information private as to not be stolen and used by other people for any illicit activities. Some people may allow their identity to be borrowed for a price of money but remember that if one of these restricted gamblers do anything illegal with your identity, it is you who will be in trouble.

There are other ways for a casino to ban a gambler but gamblers seem to always find a way which is just a tedious cycle for the casinos. What are your thoughts? Because even if they ban the ip address, gamblers can still use a vpn. Are there other ways that a casino can ban or restrict a gambler for good?
The question you asked is really hard to answer without first thinking deeply about it, or trying to get ideas from other commenters..
But all the same, I guess the only way to permanently ban a gambler is to keep banning his or her account until he or she runs out of options to create new one..
The issue with borrowing other people's identity card to verify their account is one with a very simple solution, and the solution here is the introduction of live verification where the user will hold up that camera to his or her face, and the system will verify that the face matches the one on the submitted id card, if it doesn't, then it simply means that the gambler is trying to game the casino kyc system and such gambler can be banned immediately.

With the above, the issue of creating another account after a ban may be completely limited or eradicated because the gambler will no longer be able to use other people's identity to verify the account.

This is my thought.
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November 20, 2024, 02:02:10 PM
#70
There are multitude of reasons why a gambler may be banned in a casino. Whether it is because of suspicious activity or misconduct, the casino doesn't just ban or restrict a gambler for no valid reason. But it seems like these restricted gamblers have found a way to still gamble. There is a group of people who would "borrow" the identity of others to continue betting. They would use other people's identification documents such as passports or driver's licenses. They would give it up once the rewards have been collected.
Actually most people does that to their friends and family and not not to everyone, because I don't see a possibility for someone to do such thing to somebody who you dong know, or you can't just see somebody for the first time and ask for his id for kyc. Most people who gave out there doceument never know the purpose of why it is collected. If they know they will not give. But my advice in regards to this statement, is that we should be careful when people ask us concerning our sensitive document or any important information relating to us, for security reasons because no body know the plan of the next person.

Because even if they ban the ip address, gamblers can still use a vpn. Are there other ways that a casino can ban or restrict a gambler for good?
You sound as if you are working with gambling site to find a permanent way of blocking sturbon customer who find way to bypass the ban and continue, lolz anyway I don't know you can  check the next comentor.
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November 20, 2024, 01:03:40 PM
#69
Nowadays, it is not that difficult for people to use other people's identities to do KYC. Moreover, people's personal data is now easily and cheaply traded in online groups - and what's even funnier is that there are people who are willing to give their identities to be used by them for a small fee. But there is nothing we can do about this, because no matter what, these people will continue to use other people's identities just to create new accounts on the casino platform. As long as they have access to new identities for their accounts, they will continue to do so. And I don't think all casinos have the same strict system regarding identity verification, so this loophole will continue to exist.
legendary
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November 20, 2024, 12:30:55 PM
#68
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All this will make it increasingly difficult to pass KYC on various platforms. Of course, this will have a negative impact on ordinary users who register using their own documents. Attackers will always find a way to bypass KYC. I don't know if it is possible to pass KYC with video identity verification using dipfake, but it seems to me that it can be done for a lot of money if desired. What it boils down to is that abuse leads to increased security. In my opinion it's a race that will never end.
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November 20, 2024, 12:20:07 PM
#67

Right, they can find ways, anyone can find a way. If I am to find a way I will use my brother or sister's ID. I can easily submit other docs if the casinos request more.

Casinos can let them play until they deposit more funds inside their accounts before busting them. Freeze the funds so that they will not do it again. but then of course this is not the right thing to do. I think I read somewhere this had happened to someone too bad for him he used someone else account but the casino allowed him to withdraw the funds.

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November 20, 2024, 10:55:32 AM
#66
There are multitude of reasons why a gambler may be banned in a casino. Whether it is because of suspicious activity or misconduct, the casino doesn't just ban or restrict a gambler for no valid reason. But it seems like these restricted gamblers have found a way to still gamble. There is a group of people who would "borrow" the identity of others to continue betting. They would use other people's identification documents such as passports or driver's licenses. They would give it up once the rewards have been collected.

This article warns people about their privacy and is encouraging us to keep our information private as to not be stolen and used by other people for any illicit activities. Some people may allow their identity to be borrowed for a price of money but remember that if one of these restricted gamblers do anything illegal with your identity, it is you who will be in trouble.

There are other ways for a casino to ban a gambler but gamblers seem to always find a way which is just a tedious cycle for the casinos. What are your thoughts? Because even if they ban the ip address, gamblers can still use a vpn. Are there other ways that a casino can ban or restrict a gambler for good?
A gambler is a gambler and unlike any other addiction, an addicted gambler will always find a way to gamble, even if it requires them to borrow or steal an identity, just to play that sure odds they have or envision would be their big break.
Ignorance sometimes does more harm and causes more pain than knowing the right thing to do and simply just avoiding to do so. Thus, it is better for banned gamblers to find another platform rather than use a wrong or misleading identity on same site they were banned.
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November 20, 2024, 10:39:14 AM
#65
There are multitude of reasons why a gambler may be banned in a casino. Whether it is because of suspicious activity or misconduct, the casino doesn't just ban or restrict a gambler for no valid reason. But it seems like these restricted gamblers have found a way to still gamble. There is a group of people who would "borrow" the identity of others to continue betting. They would use other people's identification documents such as passports or driver's licenses. They would give it up once the rewards have been collected.

This article warns people about their privacy and is encouraging us to keep our information private as to not be stolen and used by other people for any illicit activities. Some people may allow their identity to be borrowed for a price of money but remember that if one of these restricted gamblers do anything illegal with your identity, it is you who will be in trouble.

There are other ways for a casino to ban a gambler but gamblers seem to always find a way which is just a tedious cycle for the casinos. What are your thoughts? Because even if they ban the ip address, gamblers can still use a vpn. Are there other ways that a casino can ban or restrict a gambler for good?
Usually, casinos don't ban people without a reason but there are many cases when they ban people to not pay them their winning but when this is the case, no one tries to register for the second time.

Btw that's very common when gambler asks you to register an account with your ID and then they use it to play because their old account got blocked. Of course that's expected from an addict or unfair gambler but the sad part of this is that too many people don't care about their identity. I know lots of people around me who registered an account for their addicted gambler friend and then they had a problem getting employed in public service because of having an account in a casino.
I also know many people who were uploading pictures of their verification documents to get $25 airdrop from Blockchain.com

Today casinos are advanced enough to identify those who were once blocked. Many addicts get blocked because they use offensive words in public chats and very frequently they use offensive words against live casino dealers. They can't change their habit and end up banning with a different account. Some make mistakes and log in via the same IP or the VPN. I'd say that casinos fight very well against abusers.
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November 20, 2024, 09:52:38 AM
#64
~ Because even if they ban the ip address, gamblers can still use a vpn. Are there other ways that a casino can ban or restrict a gambler for good?

As a matter of fact vpn may not help  should casino has the sophisticated software with capability to gather the  digital fingerprint of the machines used by the banned customers. In this case to procceed gambling  those users would have to change their devices which might be too costly for them. Should this happened with me I would probably just leave that casino luckily there are many places around to gamble.
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November 20, 2024, 09:45:35 AM
#63
There are multitude of reasons why a gambler may be banned in a casino. Whether it is because of suspicious activity or misconduct, the casino doesn't just ban or restrict a gambler for no valid reason. But it seems like these restricted gamblers have found a way to still gamble. There is a group of people who would "borrow" the identity of others to continue betting. They would use other people's identification documents such as passports or driver's licenses. They would give it up once the rewards have been collected.
To combat this method of using "fake" identities, the casino can use the requirement for video identification. That is, a ban on withdrawing a deposit without completing this procedure. Although I am an opponent of KYC, I can't imagine any other ways to combat fake "identities".

This article warns people about their privacy and is encouraging us to keep our information private as to not be stolen and used by other people for any illicit activities. Some people may allow their identity to be borrowed for a price of money but remember that if one of these restricted gamblers do anything illegal with your identity, it is you who will be in trouble.
It is unlikely that "your identity" will be used in completely criminal schemes and in the case of a casino, a surprise may be a sudden ban of your identity on playing in a specific casino. Or on all of them? Because of a joint blacklist.

There are other ways for a casino to ban a gambler but gamblers seem to always find a way which is just a tedious cycle for the casinos. What are your thoughts? Because even if they ban the ip address, gamblers can still use a vpn. Are there other ways that a casino can ban or restrict a gambler for good?
There is more than one casino in the world, right? So if a gambler is not blacklisted forever, what are the problems with moving to another casino?

And gamblers don't necessarily have to steal "other people's identities" and use them in dubious schemes in casinos, because gamblers can use the accounts of friends or relatives.

I expect that in the future, one of the effective ways to ban any gambler will appear. This will be achievable only with the progress of technology, namely, with the total tokenization and digitalization of everything and everyone. With the introduction of the CBDC and the linking of specific wallets and biometrics, it will be impossible to outwit a casino with a fake identity. Transparent blockchain and AI will allow casino to immediately notice the catch.
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November 20, 2024, 09:40:29 AM
#62

There are other ways for a casino to ban a gambler but gamblers seem to always find a way which is just a tedious cycle for the casinos. What are your thoughts? Because even if they ban the ip address, gamblers can still use a vpn. Are there other ways that a casino can ban or restrict a gambler for good?

The casinos are limited to banning IP devices and the information provided by the player because this is an online tracking system; they have no way to track players who pay people to verify or sell their account or use both IP and device. They take action based on the provided information.
But if the player continues to cheat, the casino can ban him again. Casinos are good at catching cheaters because they know there are players who cheat the system to have an advantage over the house.
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